Native American Wisdom: Tecumseh's Creed

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Native American Wisdom: Tecumseh's Creed

Postby Christina Marie » August 11th, 2006, 7:16 pm

Native American Wisdom: Tecumseh's Creed

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So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart.
Trouble no one about their religion;
respect others in their view,
and demand that they respect yours.
Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life.
Seek to make your life long
and its purpose in the service of your people.
Prepare a noble death song
for the day when you go over the great divide.
Always give a word or a sign of salute when meeting or passing
a friend, even a stranger, when in a lonely place.
Show respect to all people and bow to none.
When you arise in the morning give thanks for the food
and for the joy of living;
if you see no reason for giving thanks,
the fault lies only in yourself.
Abuse no one and no thing,
for abuse turns the wise ones to fools
and robs the spirit of its vision.
When it comes your time to die,
be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear
of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray
for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different
way; sing your death song and die like a hero going home.

- Chief Tecumseh, Shawnee Nation
1768 - 1813
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Postby Tre » December 10th, 2006, 6:43 pm

Tecumseh Shawnee

"Where today are the Pequot? Where are the Narragansett, the Mohican, the Pokanoket, and many other once powerful tribes of our people? They have vanished before the avarice and the oppression of the White Man, as snow before a summer sun.
"Will we let ourselves be destroyed in our turn without a struggle, give up our homes, our country bequeathed to us by the Great Spirit, the graves of our dead and everything that is dear and sacred to us? I know you will cry with me, 'Never! Never!'"

From the 1927 Grand Council of American Indians

"The white people, who are trying to make us over into their image, they want us to be what they call "assimilated," bringing the Indians into the mainstream and destroying our own way of life and our own cultural patterns. They believe we should be contented like those whose concept of happiness is materialistic and greedy, which is very different from our way.
We want freedom from the white man rather than to be intergrated. We don't want any part of the establishment, we want to be free to raise our children in our religion, in our ways, to be able to hunt and fish and live in peace. We don't want power, we don't want to be congressmen, or bankers....we want to be ourselves. We want to have our heritage, because we are the owners of this land and because we belong here.
The white man says, there is freedom and justice for all. We have had "freedom and justice," and that is why we have been almost exterminated. We shall not forget this."

From Black Hawk, Sauk

"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right."

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Postby perongregory » December 11th, 2006, 7:27 pm

bump muthafucka.
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Postby Christina Marie » December 11th, 2006, 8:51 pm

The color of the skin has nothing to do with the nature of ones spirit
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." George Orwell
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Postby madmiddle » December 11th, 2006, 8:54 pm

Christina Marie wrote:The color of the skin has nothing to do with the nature of ones spirit


Your people have a natural evil,snakey nature.It seems like those without it are a rarity,like a human born with 6 fingers on each hand.It happens sometimes but its outside whats normal.
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Postby Christina Marie » December 12th, 2006, 1:57 am

madmiddle wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:The color of the skin has nothing to do with the nature of ones spirit


Your people have a natural evil,snakey nature.It seems like those without it are a rarity,like a human born with 6 fingers on each hand.It happens sometimes but its outside whats normal.


Who in Gods name gave you the right to judge anothers soul?
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." George Orwell
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Postby punamusta » December 12th, 2006, 9:43 am

Whoever likes the wisdom of North American natives and likes to learn more of them, I recommed you to read Dee Brown's "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bury_My_He ... unded_Knee

Best book about North American natives that I've read so far.
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Postby madmiddle » December 12th, 2006, 2:50 pm

Christina Marie wrote:
madmiddle wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:The color of the skin has nothing to do with the nature of ones spirit


Your people have a natural evil,snakey nature.It seems like those without it are a rarity,like a human born with 6 fingers on each hand.It happens sometimes but its outside whats normal.


Who in Gods name gave you the right to judge anothers soul?


I call it as I see it.Everywhere whites go,they oppress the natives,take over,loot,cheat,rape and conquer.Therefore its safe to say that whites are an evil race.
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Postby Sentenza » December 12th, 2006, 2:53 pm

Now tell me a race, that doesnt do that once they start conquering. I have never heard of an empire that made friends with the people they conquered.
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Postby madmiddle » December 12th, 2006, 2:59 pm

Sentenza wrote:Now tell me a race, that doesnt do that once they start conquering. I have never heard of an empire that made friends with the people they conquered.


Tell me a race that does this to every single other people they encounter,continent after continent,consistently,time and time again,besides whites.
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 2:59 pm

madmiddle wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
madmiddle wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:The color of the skin has nothing to do with the nature of ones spirit


Your people have a natural evil,snakey nature.It seems like those without it are a rarity,like a human born with 6 fingers on each hand.It happens sometimes but its outside whats normal.


Who in Gods name gave you the right to judge anothers soul?


I call it as I see it.Everywhere whites go,they oppress the natives,take over,loot,cheat,rape and conquer.Therefore its safe to say that whites are an evil race.


god dam do we have to go about this again........................................

I see black people like you everywhere doing nothing but crying and talking shit, and what do u do ?????? nothing just sit and type and complain and whine, I call it as i see it

whites arent the evil race there is no evil race

Theres what your doing, and theres actually doing something[/b]
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Postby madmiddle » December 12th, 2006, 3:01 pm

Lets say the world started over, and you were an African,Native American,Chinese,palestenian,Indian (india)Australian Aboriginal,Eskimo,Hawaiin,Puerto Rican,Aztec,etc and you saw a boatload of pale faced people coming to your land over the horizon.


Knowing what you know now,what would you expect?
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Postby madmiddle » December 12th, 2006, 3:02 pm

johnnny wrote:
madmiddle wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
madmiddle wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:The color of the skin has nothing to do with the nature of ones spirit


Your people have a natural evil,snakey nature.It seems like those without it are a rarity,like a human born with 6 fingers on each hand.It happens sometimes but its outside whats normal.


Who in Gods name gave you the right to judge anothers soul?


I call it as I see it.Everywhere whites go,they oppress the natives,take over,loot,cheat,rape and conquer.Therefore its safe to say that whites are an evil race.


god dam do we have to go about this again........................................

I see black people like you everywhere doing nothing but crying and talking shit, and what do u do ?????? nothing just sit and type and complain and whine, I call it as i see it

whites arent the evil race there is no evil race

Theres what your doing, and theres actually doing something[/b]


whites are an evil race
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 3:02 pm

johnnny wrote:if all europeans are guilty, then the scandanavians are especially guilty, even though after the dark ages they did nothing but farm there lands by themselves, BY THEMSELVES,

So i guess what your saying is that:

Since there white they have to pay for the crimes commited by other whites from across the baltic sea?

....please that is not logical - does not compute

or canadiens (me and penguin) have to pay the black man of america for something i had no part of?.....yea right
Ill only help black people who are ready to help themselves,(if they need help) and that includes controlling those speakers for the black community who are constantly blaming and harrassing whites. Not the proffesional unbiased ones ther cool, but most seem biased and i guess i cant blame them. But the ones that look past race and look at class should be helped before people like madmiddle

And you wonder why whites dont want to help blacks, cause of people on both sides like madmiddle.

Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie


keep clumping all whites together madmiddle, rock on buddy
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 3:03 pm

and you are an idiot
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Postby madmiddle » December 12th, 2006, 3:04 pm

johnnny wrote:And you wonder why whites dont want to help blacks, cause of people on both sides like madmiddle.

Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie


Gimmie gimmie your land,gimmie gimmie hundreds of years of free work,gimmie gimmie a job over an equally qualified black man with no record and im a white felon,gimmie gimmie less time than this nigger in court because Im white
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 3:06 pm

so what do you want? i got about 26 cents in my pocket do you want that?
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Postby madmiddle » December 12th, 2006, 3:06 pm

You have almost slaugtered an entire race of people(native americans).The few remainders suffer in poverty on reservations for the most part.Youre a sick,cruel,greedy people.
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 3:06 pm

what have you done to be part of the solution, madmiddle?
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Postby madmiddle » December 12th, 2006, 3:07 pm

Christina Marie wrote:
madmiddle wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:The color of the skin has nothing to do with the nature of ones spirit


Your people have a natural evil,snakey nature.It seems like those without it are a rarity,like a human born with 6 fingers on each hand.It happens sometimes but its outside whats normal.


Who in Gods name gave you the right to judge anothers soul?


If there is a just,fair God,most whites will burn in hell.
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 3:07 pm

madmiddle wrote:You have almost slaugtered an entire race of people(native americans).The few remainders suffer in poverty on reservations for the most part.Youre a sick,cruel,greedy people.


oh im sorry i didnt notice that im being held accountable for americans?
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 3:09 pm

madmiddle wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
madmiddle wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:The color of the skin has nothing to do with the nature of ones spirit


Your people have a natural evil,snakey nature.It seems like those without it are a rarity,like a human born with 6 fingers on each hand.It happens sometimes but its outside whats normal.


Who in Gods name gave you the right to judge anothers soul?


If there is a just,fair God,most whites will burn in hell.


Your rude, honestly if you cant have respect for white people why should white people respect you
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Postby Sentenza » December 12th, 2006, 3:10 pm

Most of all of us will burn in hell then. I can name you lots of asians and africans from the top of my head that will be down there too.
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 3:11 pm

if there is a fair and just god, the evil of all colours will burn in hell

a fair and just god isnt racist, only your fair and racist god madmiddle
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Postby Sentenza » December 12th, 2006, 3:23 pm

madmiddle wrote:Lets say the world started over, and you were an palestenian,Australian Aboriginal,Eskimo,Puerto Rican

Knowing what you know now,what would you expect?


madmiddle wrote:Chinese,


I d say: Damn, they dont look like those Japanese and Mongols, that keep invading, raping and slaughtering us.

madmiddle wrote:African,Native American

Who the hell are they? I have some knife work to put in on my rival tribe.

madmiddle wrote:Indian (india)
Fist the Arabs, then the Mongols and now this. What a mess.

madmiddle wrote:Hawaiin,

Let me slay this rival islander first, before we negotiate.

madmiddle wrote:Aztec,

DAmn, theyll ask all those other tribes in our area, that hate us to the death, that we sacrificed, enslaved and raped for a while now to help them killing us.
madmiddle wrote:and you saw a boatload of pale faced people coming to your land over the horizon.


We are all full of shit.
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 3:26 pm

Sentezana wtf are u posting that for we all know, according to madmiddle only white people are capable of violent acts

i guess madmiddle will always be madmiddle
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Postby Sentenza » December 12th, 2006, 3:31 pm

madmiddle wrote:Lets say the world started over, and you were an African,Native American,Chinese,palestenian,Indian (india)Australian Aboriginal,Eskimo,Hawaiin,Puerto Rican,Aztec,etc and you saw a boatload of pale faced people coming to your land over the horizon.


Knowing what you know now,what would you expect?


But, from what i know....I wouldnt trust them. You were aiming at that right?

But race is not the best thing to base your trust on. I cant trust every white man either, nor can you with blacks.
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Postby Sentenza » December 12th, 2006, 3:32 pm

I like Native Americans culture though. Very interesting and deep stuff.
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Postby johnnny » December 12th, 2006, 3:43 pm

yea i smoke alot of dope with them, really cool people and alot dont hate me because of my skin colour
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Postby EmperorPenguin » December 12th, 2006, 3:57 pm

madmiddle wrote:
Sentenza wrote:Now tell me a race, that doesnt do that once they start conquering. I have never heard of an empire that made friends with the people they conquered.


Tell me a race that does this to every single other people they encounter,continent after continent,consistently,time and time again,besides whites.


I'm white, so I'm of the white race. I encounter people of colour every day and I've yet to conquer any of them. Though there was this one girl I met from Mexico who I "conquered" *WINK*WINK*! Ahhh, that was a bad joke.
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Postby madmiddle » December 12th, 2006, 5:11 pm

well how about this-white people are the enemy of every other racial group on earth.This is irrefutable.
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Postby madmiddle » December 12th, 2006, 5:18 pm

White people are fucking evil,I dont care what anyone says,theres something about them that makes them overall lack the human compassion that the majority of other people have.
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