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Postby Qdawg » February 6th, 2007, 11:40 pm

this joint was cool speaking mostly on the bpp & some other crews before bloods & crips.

bones is a intelligent brother(dont know if that was just for the camera or not) & did mention a couple of deep comments

"bloods & crips aint no lifestyle...its bs "
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Postby Qdawg » February 7th, 2007, 12:24 am

[quote="Qdawg"]this joint was cool speaking mostly on the bpp & some other crews before bloods & crips.

bones is a intelligent brother(dont know if that was just for the camera or not) & did mention a couple of deep comments

"bloods & crips aint no lifestyle...its bs "[/quote]

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Postby creativemind » February 7th, 2007, 1:01 am

I hope everybody on here gets to view this documentary. It was good, insightful, and thought-provoking.

From the perspective of somebody who didn't grow up in LA, I thought it gave a lot of answers to the origins of some of the Black gangs from back in the day (Businessmen, Slausons, etc.), how they desolved into what was a very positive movement, (the Black Panther) and how there was deliberate interference on the part of the government to kill their cause.

From what I saw, Bone did extensive research on how the Crips and Bloods came to be, how things got progressively worse in South Central, but was ignored until Karen Toshima got killed in Westwood.

Its interesting to see how he's changed his life, and shows that you can still have love for you friends, without self-destructive behavior.
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Postby rustone » February 7th, 2007, 8:32 am

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Shox112 wrote:damn cuhh and I aint even got cable...sh*t I wanna see it


im already knowin' how u feel cuhz i was at my lil bitch house when it came on but she got DirectTV so all her shit come on early some i thought it came on at Ten out here but damn cuhz niggaz do need cable we dont got shit at the house but a razor blade and a plate lol


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Postby ManifestTruth » February 7th, 2007, 9:38 am

Qdawg wrote:
Qdawg wrote:this joint was cool speaking mostly on the bpp & some other crews before bloods & crips.

bones is a intelligent brother(dont know if that was just for the camera or not) & did mention a couple of deep comments

"bloods & crips aint no lifestyle...its bs "


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I agree, he's very intelligent and articulate and made a few very profound remarks. I thought dude was sharp when F.E.D.S Mag did a cover story on APB a few years back. He's evolved since and that's a positive. I like what the other brother, Lil Monster had to say as well even though I dont know his whole deal. They had OG's, former Party members, former US members, shit was righteous, man! Geronimo Pratt enlightened me too, half my life I was led to believe Ron Karenga's crew was created to battle BPP but it wasnt the case, just more of that cross dressing fag J. Edgar Hoover's CointelPro treachery...

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Postby PolarAC » February 7th, 2007, 9:49 am

That Doc was excellent. Definately interesting to find that the early blacks gangs were a response to all the white gangs like the "Spook Hunters". They just broke it down to how things got started

I thought that there would be more talk about this show here.
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Postby L Grindin » February 7th, 2007, 10:03 am

PolarAC wrote:I thought that there would be more talk about this show here.

Sometimes it seems that people are only interested in things that promote negativity. When something positive is done, such as this very informative and enlightening documentary, people aren't interested. I think there were many lessons that can be learned from it about how to improve the Black community, and maintain the integrity and strength of Black revolutionary organizations.
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Postby Jinky » February 7th, 2007, 10:06 am

Wasnt he in Training Day ?
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Postby L Grindin » February 7th, 2007, 10:14 am

Jinky wrote:Wasnt he in Training Day ?

Yeah.
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Postby creativemind » February 7th, 2007, 12:42 pm

L Grindin wrote:
PolarAC wrote:I thought that there would be more talk about this show here.

Sometimes it seems that people are only interested in things that promote negativity. When something positive is done, such as this very informative and enlightening documentary, people aren't interested. I think there were many lessons that can be learned from it about how to improve the Black community, and maintain the integrity and strength of Black revolutionary organizations.


Did you notice how many of the young homies that Bone interviewed had NO CLUE how the conflict got started in the first place? Fighting, killing and willing to die over an unknown cause. Just imagine if that commitment was directed toward something positive.
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Postby L Grindin » February 7th, 2007, 1:08 pm

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PolarAC wrote:I thought that there would be more talk about this show here.

Sometimes it seems that people are only interested in things that promote negativity. When something positive is done, such as this very informative and enlightening documentary, people aren't interested. I think there were many lessons that can be learned from it about how to improve the Black community, and maintain the integrity and strength of Black revolutionary organizations.


Did you notice how many of the young homies that Bone interviewed had NO CLUE how the conflict got started in the first place? Fighting, killing and willing to die over an unknown cause. Just imagine if that commitment was directed toward something positive.

Indeed, and that's one of the things that makes it so bad. Many people are willing to die for a worthy cause, but they're fighting and dying for nothing. It was also sad seeing how that little boy had such a pesimistic opinion, and at the end they said he got life. He couldn't have been any older than 14!
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Postby looney » February 7th, 2007, 1:30 pm

good documentry point blank
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Postby StillNoScript » February 7th, 2007, 5:05 pm

There was so much in this detailing the history of gangs I have to watch it again. What had me was how in the beginning Cle insists that poverty had nothing to do with at least him joining a gang, but when the author of the book in which he got the title of the documentary from, asked him that if he (Cle) were to build a factory with union jobs right in Athens Park, and hire the entire gang, would that put an end to the gang being violent and drug dealing? Cle's short answer: Yes.
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Postby BG MLOCO » February 7th, 2007, 7:07 pm

I REALLLY ENJOYED THAT DOCUMENTARY IT WAS DEEPER THAN THE HOOD, BLOODS,CRIPS, IT WAS HISTORY IN A SENSE AND A WAKE UP CALL ON THE HOW THE GOVERNMENT USES ITS POWER TO KEEP BLACK PEOPLE DOWN, ALL PEOPLE SHOULD WATCH THIS, ITS NOT JUST A REGULAR DOCUMENTRAY ITS LIKE A HISTORY CLASS WE ALL SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE. BONE IS A REAL DUDE, HE IS DOING HIS THANG AND WAS RIGHT ON A LOT OF TOPICS.
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Postby BG MLOCO » February 7th, 2007, 7:16 pm

READ MY POST IN THE MUSIC FORUM, IT WAS A GOOD MOVIE, VERY DEEP HONEST FUCC J EDGAR HOOVER, REAGAN.
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 7th, 2007, 8:04 pm

BG MLOCO wrote:I REALLLY ENJOYED THAT DOCUMENTARY IT WAS DEEPER THAN THE HOOD, BLOODS,CRIPS, IT WAS HISTORY IN A SENSE AND A WAKE UP CALL ON THE HOW THE GOVERNMENT USES ITS POWER TO KEEP BLACK PEOPLE DOWN, ALL PEOPLE SHOULD WATCH THIS, ITS NOT JUST A REGULAR DOCUMENTRAY ITS LIKE A HISTORY CLASS WE ALL SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE. BONE IS A REAL DUDE, HE IS DOING HIS THANG AND WAS RIGHT ON A LOT OF TOPICS.


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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:20 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:20 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:20 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby NikexCortez » February 7th, 2007, 10:24 pm

I dont have HBO, could I watch this anywhere on the internet or download it?
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:24 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:24 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:25 pm

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Postby StillNoScript » February 7th, 2007, 10:33 pm

A Ghost wrote:17 threads on one subject :lol:


Check the date I started it. I did a search before I started this thread, to make sure I wouldn't dublicate, and couldn't find anything of the sort.
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:34 pm

StillNoScript wrote:
A Ghost wrote:17 threads on one subject :lol:


Check the date I started it. I did a search before I started this thread, to make sure I wouldn't dublicate, and couldn't find anything of the sort.


...then someone needs to fix the search button :?
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Postby StillNoScript » February 7th, 2007, 10:38 pm

My apologies. I swear I did a search and only a bunch of thread titles having nothing to do with this showed up on the first page. I wouldn't blame the mods for merging or deleting this thread. Again, my bad.
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Postby StillNoScript » February 7th, 2007, 10:42 pm

A Ghost wrote:17 threads on one subject :lol:


This is the original thread, as far as I can see, from the date of the first post.

I'm the one guilty of duplicating. My bad. When I first saw the ad for this on HBO a week ago, I did a search and on the first page nothing with this title came up. I had no idea that it had already been discussed here years ago. It was probably on one of the back pages in the search. I didn't check that far.
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:46 pm

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Postby perongregory » February 8th, 2007, 1:35 am

i dont got cable either, and I wanted to see that shit. how was it?
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