For those who love whites

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby Sentenza » January 25th, 2007, 1:50 pm

DC wrote:Peron, all you can do is blame white folk, why dont you blame your own people for killing each other in the streets homie, the truth is black folk are holding themselves down.


But the past does affect us in a good and bad sense, it always depends. Example? During the 30 years war Germany was kind of splitted in two pieces, the protestant north and the catholic south, the catholics tried to defeat the protestants but didnt succeed...So...Northern Germany is still mainly protestant and is mostly rejective towards the church...Because of incidents that happened 350 years ago. Another example? If you should once travel to Spain and get killed due to a bombing it was most likey the ETA, who are still fighting Spain, because of a contract that Spain didnt stick to 300 years ago.
And like in these examples slavery still affects blacks and colonization still affects the "third world". Also because its not even as long ago as these examples i stated.
The Armenians (about a million of them) have been murdered by the Turks 100 years ago, but if youd say "Get over it" to one of them into their face its a flatline for you.
The past DOES affect us, only those in denial of injustice of the past- or those supportive of these injustices (like todays Nazis: "i dont care about the Holocaust, i didnt commit it")- deny that.
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Postby perongregory » January 25th, 2007, 2:57 pm

Sentenza wrote:
DC wrote:Peron, all you can do is blame white folk, why dont you blame your own people for killing each other in the streets homie, the truth is black folk are holding themselves down.


But the past does affect us in a good and bad sense, it always depends. Example? During the 30 years war Germany was kind of splitted in two pieces, the protestant north and the catholic south, the catholics tried to defeat the protestants but didnt succeed...So...Northern Germany is still mainly protestant and is mostly rejective towards the church...Because of incidents that happened 350 years ago. Another example? If you should once travel to Spain and get killed due to a bombing it was most likey the ETA, who are still fighting Spain, because of a contract that Spain didnt stick to 300 years ago.
And like in these examples slavery still affects blacks and colonization still affects the "third world". Also because its not even as long ago as these examples i stated.
The Armenians (about a million of them) have been murdered by the Turks 100 years ago, but if youd say "Get over it" to one of them into their face its a flatline for you.
The past DOES affect us, only those in denial of injustice of the past- or those supportive of these injustices (like todays Nazis: "i dont care about the Holocaust, i didnt commit it")- deny that.


real talk. And good example with the Armenians. The reason many Armenians seem so hostile and aggressive is because of their history and no closure being brought to the issue. With blacks, slavery happened, and then jim crow, and then some more shit, and still some more shit, so there's no closure and just a bunch of confused angry people (of course every one is not like this, just making an example).
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Postby Sentenza » January 25th, 2007, 3:12 pm

perongregory wrote: so there's no closure and just a bunch of confused angry people (of course every one is not like this, just making an example).


Yes, i agree. I see that happening to a lot of people, Jews, Kurds, Armenians, blacks.....To be honest -no pun intended- i perceive many black americans like that aswell.
But thats the syndrome you get when being uprooted, mistreated and then being left alone. Look at the world, all ethnicities, races, nations, peoples that went through this BS share that same kind of "syndrome".

But how can get someone over something when many fools are still tripping on the same racist BS that dictated the daily routine back then- even if its a bit more concealed nowadays?

Talk is cheap for those not affected.
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Postby Sentenza » January 25th, 2007, 5:05 pm

perongregory wrote: The reason many Armenians seem so hostile and aggressive is because of their history and no closure being brought to the issue.


Did you know, that recently a Turkish-Armenian author was murdered in Turkey, for speaking up on the issue?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6281545.stm
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Postby johnnny » January 25th, 2007, 5:17 pm

the turks or ottamens were some fucked up people....
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Postby Angryblackman86 » February 9th, 2007, 1:57 pm

im loving this very good points being made here!!
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Postby Angryblackman86 » February 9th, 2007, 2:44 pm

whites should not only leave africa they should leave every village , town ,city , or nation that they or theyre punk ass desendants took from others by force , white should leave america and give it back to the natives and yes i agree all blacks should go back to africa were we came from use our money that we use to buy cadillacs and stupid ass diamonds and use it to rebuild ourselves , niggas always talk that dumb shit when referring to africa , every single race in america has a country , roots and culture they can go back to , NOW THE QUESTION , WHAT ABOUT SO CALLED "AFRICAN-AMERICANS"?
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Postby DC » February 9th, 2007, 3:32 pm

Turks are the most mixed race people out there, they have mongol, European, Persian and Arab blood, they all look very different. The reason is they invaded and inter married everywhere they went, Turks aren't a race but an Ethnic group who share language culture and history.
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Postby Sentenza » February 9th, 2007, 8:11 pm

DC wrote:Turks are the most mixed race people out there, they have mongol, European, Persian and Arab blood, they all look very different. The reason is they invaded and inter married everywhere they went, Turks aren't a race but an Ethnic group who share language culture and history.



Iam not even disrespecting them cause i got to know a shitload of Turks that are hardworking, upright peole. I love them, but some of them are fucked up, just like its the case within all races....
And yes, Turkish people are hell of a mixed ethnicity. You cant even distinguish man of them from northern europeans, depends on how much you go further east in Turkey. In the east the Arab influence comes through, in the west the european does. And dont even get me started about history...Turkey has always oriented itself mostly towards Europe.
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Postby Sentenza » February 9th, 2007, 8:13 pm

I once had Turkish neighbours that looked exactly like the stereotype of a british person. Pale skin, red hair, i was like damn.........
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Postby DC » February 11th, 2007, 2:54 am

Yep they are very racially diverse, Ive met many blonde haired blue eyed Turks.
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Postby Aquafresh » February 11th, 2007, 7:31 pm

Sentenza wrote:.....one was caught and imprisoned somewhere in the Caucausian area and straight walked home. :shock: Took him 3 years....


Now that shit is Gangsta :lol: Walking for three years.... 8)
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Postby BlaKK » February 12th, 2007, 1:03 am

My boi Johnny made some good points here in this thread.
Fuck that nigga
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Postby johnnnny » February 12th, 2007, 7:26 am

there have always been whites who were good guys but there are just too many bad guys in this world overshadowing the good guys
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Postby johnnnny » February 12th, 2007, 8:17 am

johnnnny wrote:there have always been whites who were good guys but there are just too many bad guys in this world overshadowing the good guys


-dont mean to ramble on so ill try and get all my points in one post

-the bottam line: White people as a whole are scared of foreign influences!!!

Look at islam in europe, the turkish are white (every turk ive seen on the net is white in my eyes), the christian faith is being replaced via immigration and higher birthrates of immigrants. The whites of europe are afraid so they banned the turben in a hope that it will slow down the muslim pace.


Look at france, northern africans wont stop immigrating there looking for work and thats pissing off alot of europeans.
(Imagine your living in your country and 10's of thousands of people wont stop coming to your country and in the end pushing you furthur and furthur away) :cry:

NOW look at america and canada :roll:
America is a complex issue, the first being slavery, blacks earned the right when they were taken here against there will to live next to whites in america. I know whites will hate me for this but blacks have every right to be in america like whites. Whites should honour black people as equals in america, but old hatreds die hard is what they say. So why are white people still hating on blacks, well ill tell you what its "Caramel". Lol yep i just said caramel, what do you mean johnjohn is what your asking :idea: well......

The caramel is the color you get when a black and white (male or female, or vice versa) bang and have a kid. The kid is neither white nor black but caught in a median between both. Now usually this wouldnt be a problem, except if it wasnt for that fucking one drop rule in america and south africa. Scared short sighted white people of america couldnt look as this caramel kid as a equal so passing this law would keep those caramel kids out of white society. The rule forces the caramel kid to identify himself as black, and as a result of that people (of every race) say that mixed kids are black which there not. :wink: Im always confused by looking at pictures of blue eyed brown people and wonder wtf, why do they say there black well thats why. The bottam line is that white america is afraid of the browning of america...

Look at the mexicans of america, in the case of texas and california they were always here living in america just as long as the whites. So when america aquired those territories (Manifest destiny) - almost got canada but we burned your white house to the ground twice :lol: :lol: :lol: 1812 baby- the mexicans werent that numerous so the culture wasnt strong. But with the shift in demographics the mexican culture is becoming more profound and replacing the anglo culture and thats why alot of whites are hating on mexicans. Also the mexicans are retaking there old land and driving out the other races which is breeding more racism etc... Almost all mexicans ive seen are white (those mexicans on the homepage of streetgangs.com) are white lol, so the bottam line here is its a culture thing....

Look at Canada, we get refugees from everywhere america, china, europe everywhere. My nation is said to be the most diversified nation of the world, we have 32 major ethnicities with over a 1000 peopel each. Look at toronto, they have a little greek town, little china, little portugal, little russia, little jamaica, Toronto is still predominatly white but culturaly it will change. White canadiens here are afraid of being replaced, or driven out by other nationalities. But i see alot of people getting along here so those people are just a bit dilusional i think. If your caramel here you enjoy the best of both worlds no lies there. Anyways up here its a combination of cultural and genetic fears.

For the longest time in my life i was ashamed of being white ebcause all i heard was that black people are superior because caramel = black, lol wtf :shock: , it took me a long time to tell myself 'No there not the same".
Look at the aurgument perongregory had...
Also too theres that rumor that black people are pyhsically superior, well you know yes you guys have alot of white muscle fibers in your body that make it easier to gain definition, extra tendon in your legs etc.... But your not superior, sorry guys but we the same. Im not going to go on and on about what white people got and done, all i gotta say look around you.

In the end i had to overcome alot of racism inside of me because i was afraid of something i didnt understand (immigrants) lol im serious. But 75% of my people are caught in that tought and they erronously believe only white people are superior.

Then we have black people who say there racist because white people forced them too well if you cant beat them just join then approach doesnt make you any better then the bad guys hating on you. But then again how else will they listen...... But if you get caught up thinking white people are all the devils you joined the devil, because you erronously believed in something that isnt true, you dig. Join the NOI for all i care those fuckers can burn with satan.

So anyways immigration from the atlantic side of north america has slowed down, so what now well look west to the pacific side look at those indians and chinesse coming :shock: :x :o :cry: <--- yea mixed reactions. Truth is folks that a new era in the war of ethnicity has begun, yellow has joined the mix.

I dunno if this made sense but it should shed some light on what its like to be white in these days and times

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