Blacks and Browns again in California Prisons

[good ol watts]

the AB wuz formed in protection from the BGF not the eme......

[good ol watts]

its all grape, when that honkkkie bush close them borders, these ese's gon be on they hands and knees beggin for forgiveness....

[Silencioso]

Bush's brother has a Mexican-American wife. Bush has half Mexican neices and nephews. I'm surprised the media hasn't made more out of that.

Bush is the former governer of Texas. He knows what's up. He knows how much Mexican illegals contribute to the economy. He knows US-Mexican relations depend on immigration and the money immigrants send back to family in Mexico. He's not going to close anything.

(don't get me wrong. I can't stand Bush. I think he's a terrible president but he's not anti-immigrant)

[good ol watts]

didnt know that about bush.....

but regardless theres a lot of pressure now about closing the borders, he gon have to do somethin, i dont think its going to die down anytime soon....

[perongregory]

bush aint closing shit. And if they do implement something, it's not gonna be effecient - they need that drug loot, and right now the mexicans got that on lock. But if mexicans don't calme down with the Aztlan stuff the whites definitely gon get in that ass, and thats the truth. They did it to the uppity blacks in teh 70's don't think cause yall have numbers they want stick it to tour assess next. America aint afraid to do shit. They'll kill millions of vietnamese, atom bomb japanese cities (not military bases), commit genocide on American natives, enslave blacks, yall next in line. So get that head right cause they already trying to make yall the next slaves.

[streetsIswatchin]

for that dude who said mexicans are gonna be getting down on their knees and begging for forgiveness....hahaha dont count the days to when that happens cuz it wont, mexicans are here to stay nobody's getting deported the border might get a few miles of security wall built but it'll still be business as usual. The US needs Mexico just as much as Mexico needs the US...believe that.
Mexico been kickin up dust towards the US way and the US aint trippin...they been dealing with eachother for a couple hundred years so i dont think mexicans will become the new slaves of white america...Mexico is a strong nation even though its economy sucks u know what. George Bush keeps it real cool with Vicente Fox the Mexican president. So to whoever is looking for the mexicans to fall off...this aint happening...keep it real though, do you...the individual black person really believe that the mexican people hate you?? Come on now...i know im gonna sound racist AGAIN but theres plenty of other races in this world that really do think they are better then blk's or look down on them. I wont name names and no im not talking about white people which would be the obvious guess.
Its all gang and street politics behind any animosity between both peoples (mex and blacks). Blacks look at puerto ricans and cubans and dominicans and then turn to mexicans and see how its only the mexicans that are the skin head's allies and are the ones trippin on blacks...But u see mexicans have an actual nation, we have our own culture. PR's DR's and cubans have a weak culture that is not followed....have you ever noticed that in New York puerto ricans act just like blacks?? Blacks might not see this but its an obvious sign of not a strong culture. Blacks seem to get along better with people that "act black" even though their not black....thats where alot of blacks go wrong. Blacks were wronged in the past but that doesnt mean everyone has to bow down to their self made american culture and attitudes towards the rest of america. Mexicans are their own people and they'll remain that way.

[good ol watts]

wut u talkin bout, nobody cares how Mexicans act , good be proud of yo culture, bein proud is one thang bein racist is another tho, me personally i dont give a fuc wut Mexicans is doin, ya'll got about a 80% to 20 ratio in south central and still dont run shit, C's and B's is the real ridaz period, anybody can push a line when they got a whole country (mesico) to recruit from...........

[perongregory]

for that dude who said mexicans are gonna be getting down on their knees and begging for forgiveness....hahaha dont count the days to when that happens because it wont, mexicans are here to stay nobody's getting deported the border might get a few miles of security wall built but it'll still be business as usual. The US needs Mexico just as much as Mexico needs the US...believe that.
Mexico been kickin up dust towards the US way and the US aint trippin...they been dealing with eachother for a couple hundred years so i dont think mexicans will become the new slaves of white america...Mexico is a strong nation even though its economy sucks u know what. George Bush keeps it real cool with Vicente Fox the Mexican president. So to whoever is looking for the mexicans to fall off...this aint happening...keep it real though, do you...the individual black person really believe that the mexican people hate you?? Come on now...i know im gonna sound racist AGAIN but theres plenty of other races in this world that really do think they are better then blk's or look down on them. I wont name names and no im not talking about white people which would be the obvious guess.
Its all gang and street politics behind any animosity between both peoples (mex and blacks). Blacks look at puerto ricans and cubans and dominicans and then turn to mexicans and see how its only the mexicans that are the skin head's allies and are the ones trippin on blacks...But u see mexicans have an actual nation, we have our own culture. PR's DR's and cubans have a weak culture that is not followed....have you ever noticed that in New York puerto ricans act just like blacks?? Blacks might not see this but its an obvious sign of not a strong culture. Blacks seem to get along better with people that "act black" even though their not black....thats where alot of blacks go wrong. Blacks were wronged in the past but that doesnt mean everyone has to bow down to their self made american culture and attitudes towards the rest of america. Mexicans are their own people and they'll remain that way.

What the fuck you talkin about streets? PR's got they own culture so do Dominicans. But they share hip hop culture with blacks because they got black in them, and some of them are actually balck, plus they helped make hip hop culture from the jump. They aint no haters talkin about brown pride then allying with some racist ass whites, talkin about fuck mayates. Mexicans think they better than black people but thats ok. I just look at that as ignorance. Of course Bush is cool with Vicente Fox who don't give a fuck about the reg. mexican. Fox just cares about his ass gettin some fat ends in his pockets by all the corporations he backs and are apart off. Why the Indians gettin fucked over, why don't he live they land alone and call the Mexican army back out of the jungles of Chiapas. Whatever man, we'll wait until the day that whip is on that ass, then will see whose talking that racist BS.

[mnjmc]

bush aint closing shit. And if they do implement something, it's not gonna be effecient - they need that drug loot, and right now the mexicans got that on lock. But if mexicans don't calme down with the Aztlan stuff the whites definitely gon get in that ass, and thats the truth. They did it to the uppity blacks in teh 70's don't think cause yall have numbers they want stick it to tour assess next. America aint afraid to do shit. They'll kill millions of vietnamese, atom bomb japanese cities (not military bases), commit genocide on American natives, enslave blacks, yall next in line. So get that head right cause they already trying to make yall the next slaves.

I would just want to say that it is a very small group of mexicans that are into the Aztlan stuff. That azltlan website is causing more problems than it has to. Every anti-immigrant site that I go to uses a lot of quotes from that site. But for real almost no Mexicans care about all this Aztlan stuff. Some whites want pump that BS to scare people. It's really only these school and college orginizations, like mecha, that you here talk about it.

Also, it's not just American government that is willing to commit atrocities for their own benefit , the Asians, and Africans have done. Or do you think all this you hear Communist governments, genocide, and ethnic cleansing is all media hype? See Mexicans are well aware that America is capable of doing anything that it can, but so can any other people or country, but you can't let that stop you.

As for Bush being pressured? You can't pressure that guy to do anything. His whole presidency he did what ever he pleased and never apologized for it. Say whatever you say about the guy, he doesn't really care what people think about him.

[Old Shatterhand]

That's right perongregory. The local and state governments have a lot of leeway in what they can do. But if anyone here honestly thinks that the Federal Government of the United States of America is going to let ANY part of its continental territory secede: then you aren't living in Aztlan you're living in a fantasy land.

They never have and they never will. If the Federal Government didn't allow thirteen states with a working political structure, powerful army, and capable militias managed by (at least in their view) respected, experienced, powerful, wealthy officials to do it, then really what makes you think they are going to let what amounts to a small minority of the Mexican American population consisting of some revolutionary oriented students, gangmembers, ex-convicts, and a handful of disaffected do it?

It's all talk and that's all it will ever amount to. The Federal Government can and will do whatever it takes to ensure that never happens. They are the boss. Case closed. New topic everybody.

[streetsIswatchin]

its a buncha college boys preachin that aztlan stuff....no mexicans care about that.
hey yo good ol'watts, i was just speaking on my country the way it is, i aint no dummy and anyone whos not biased would say what i said when it comes to the facts. All you did was try and diss mexicans talkin about we aint runnin shit and whatevv...mexicans dont have hate in their heart their a nice people in their heart...and its true bloods and crips got more killers then mexican gangs if you broke down the statistics and u had even numbers. But then again i dont know if thats a good thing or not.
Besides that speaking on that aztlan shit again, i dont think they mean they gonna take over part of the US by force i think they mean politicaly.

[Y.G.]

for that dude who said mexicans are gonna be getting down on their knees and begging for forgiveness....hahaha dont count the days to when that happens because it wont, mexicans are here to stay nobody's getting deported the border might get a few miles of security wall built but it'll still be business as usual. The US needs Mexico just as much as Mexico needs the US...believe that.
Mexico been kickin up dust towards the US way and the US aint trippin...they been dealing with eachother for a couple hundred years so i dont think mexicans will become the new slaves of white america...Mexico is a strong nation even though its economy sucks u know what. George Bush keeps it real cool with Vicente Fox the Mexican president. So to whoever is looking for the mexicans to fall off...this aint happening...keep it real though, do you...the individual black person really believe that the mexican people hate you?? Come on now...i know im gonna sound racist AGAIN but theres plenty of other races in this world that really do think they are better then blk's or look down on them. I wont name names and no im not talking about white people which would be the obvious guess.
Its all gang and street politics behind any animosity between both peoples (mex and blacks). Blacks look at puerto ricans and cubans and dominicans and then turn to mexicans and see how its only the mexicans that are the skin head's allies and are the ones trippin on blacks...But u see mexicans have an actual nation, we have our own culture. PR's DR's and cubans have a weak culture that is not followed....have you ever noticed that in New York puerto ricans act just like blacks?? Blacks might not see this but its an obvious sign of not a strong culture. Blacks seem to get along better with people that "act black" even though their not black....thats where alot of blacks go wrong. Blacks were wronged in the past but that doesnt mean everyone has to bow down to their self made american culture and attitudes towards the rest of america. Mexicans are their own people and they'll remain that way.

I AGREE WITH SOME THINGS YOU SAY BUT ONE THING I DIDN'T AGREE WITH IS THAT WHITE AMERICA DOES LOOK AT MEXICANS AS THE NEW MODERN SLAVES. I WORK WITH DOCTORS AND SHIT LIKE THAT AND BELIEVE ME THEY SPEAK ON MEXICANS THE WRONG WAY JUST LIKE THEY WOULD PROBABLY SPEAK ON BLACKS IF I WAS MEXICAN OR A DIFFERENT COLOR. I DIDN'T AGREE WITH YOU ON THE PART ABOUT PUERTO RICANS, DOMINICANS, AND CUBANS BUT I DON'T THINK THATS THE REAL REASON BLACKS AND PR'S/DR'S/CUBANS GET A LONG ITS JUST THAT THEY DON'T HAVE DEAL WITH THE SAME BRAZY STREET POLITICS AS BLACKS AND MEXICANS IN CALIFORNIA.

[Y.G.]

for that dude who said mexicans are gonna be getting down on their knees and begging for forgiveness....hahaha dont count the days to when that happens because it wont, mexicans are here to stay nobody's getting deported the border might get a few miles of security wall built but it'll still be business as usual. The US needs Mexico just as much as Mexico needs the US...believe that.
Mexico been kickin up dust towards the US way and the US aint trippin...they been dealing with eachother for a couple hundred years so i dont think mexicans will become the new slaves of white america...Mexico is a strong nation even though its economy sucks u know what. George Bush keeps it real cool with Vicente Fox the Mexican president. So to whoever is looking for the mexicans to fall off...this aint happening...keep it real though, do you...the individual black person really believe that the mexican people hate you?? Come on now...i know im gonna sound racist AGAIN but theres plenty of other races in this world that really do think they are better then blk's or look down on them. I wont name names and no im not talking about white people which would be the obvious guess.
Its all gang and street politics behind any animosity between both peoples (mex and blacks). Blacks look at puerto ricans and cubans and dominicans and then turn to mexicans and see how its only the mexicans that are the skin head's allies and are the ones trippin on blacks...But u see mexicans have an actual nation, we have our own culture. PR's DR's and cubans have a weak culture that is not followed....have you ever noticed that in New York puerto ricans act just like blacks?? Blacks might not see this but its an obvious sign of not a strong culture. Blacks seem to get along better with people that "act black" even though their not black....thats where alot of blacks go wrong. Blacks were wronged in the past but that doesnt mean everyone has to bow down to their self made american culture and attitudes towards the rest of america. Mexicans are their own people and they'll remain that way.

What the fu-- you talkin about streets? PR's got they own culture so do Dominicans. But they share hip hop culture with blacks because they got black in them, and some of them are actually balck, plus they helped make hip hop culture from the jump. They aint no haters talkin about brown pride then allying with some racist ass whites, talkin about fu-- mayates. Mexicans think they better than black people but thats ok. I just look at that as ignorance. Of course Bush is cool with Vicente Fox who don't give a fu-- about the reg. mexican. Fox just cares about his ass gettin some fat ends in his pockets by all the corporations he backs and are apart off. Why the Indians gettin #%@& over, why don't he live they land alone and call the Mexican army back out of the jungles of Chiapas. Whatever man, we'll wait until the day that whip is on that ass, then will see whose talking that racist BS.

THAT IS TRUE BOTH DO HAVE BLACK IN THEM.

[Y.G.]

[quote="streetsIswatchin"]for that mexican people hate you?? Come on now...i know im gonna sound racist AGAIN but theres plenty of other races in this world that really do think they are better then blk's or look down on them. I wont name names and no im not talking about white people which would be the obvious guess.



I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF RACES THAT LOOK DOWN ON BLACKS AND MEXICANS.

[streetsIswatchin]

word YG, if u think about it blacks and mexicans looked down upon by alot, we in the same boat when it comes to that

[Y.G.]

word YG, if u think about it blacks and mexicans looked down upon by alot, we in the same boat when it comes to that

THATS TRUE HOPEFULLY ONE DAY WE WILL REALIZE IT BECAUSE WHITE FOLKS ARE LAUGH AND TALKIN ABOUT US BAD.

[vico-sal@hotmail.com]

Of course they will out number them but if it were equal amounts the mexicans wouldnt do shit.

oh really........why not ask some black guys who been locked down-if when our numbers are small we are scary?lol.please dude-YA-folsom-and pelican bay its pretty even outed and south siders still doing the offense-ask anyone-Monster Kody-said the blacks had lost control to the Surenos in 1991----blacks were the majority then....whats your excuse?nah dude south siders just have a straight savage mentality and look at fighting with a black man as a challenge-(il pay you the compliment-you guys are big and strong)we though you from oaktown were you guys are outnumber us-so you dont have a clue to the sur mentality

[vico-sal@hotmail.com]

I dont agree with Dr. Gonzo's comment above. Many Mexicans who were victimized by blacks (when they had the numbers) in High School and the streets took their beatings like men without complaining and crying racism. The media didnt seem to take much notice when the Hispanics were getting jumped or outnumbered in these melees.

As a white male myself, I have always noticed Hispanics tend to be a lot more defensive and more resistant towards Black aggression than whites. No matter what the numbers are.

Ever since the the numbers have been in favor of the Hispanics, I noticed that many of the blacks start whining and crying for help. Calling out to the LAPD, Mayor Villargosa and other Hispanics city leaders for help.

Do you remember the Hispanics back in the days crying for help?

telling it like it is---mexicans dont fear the mouths of bkacks like whites do-we are warriors-and the shit is just got started and blacks are crying for peace -hahah!! i remember yrs of rumors of robberies and assaults against mexicans but we took it in stride yall nigers getting your asses handed to you-and its gonna get worst-I hope every black gangster listens looks and learns

[vico-sal@hotmail.com]

The blacks will get the _____ end of this. They are no match for the Surenos.

YALL BE TALKIN LIKE MEXICANS JUST BE SOCKIN BLACK MUFUCKAS UP LEFT & RIGHT.

we do sock em up -and we are stomping them in the gang war-but you nigz are fucking rats -snitches and durty fucking fake thugs -always telling on the homies when they put lead in you-fucking soft -no heart -no real respect for the code-keep crying thats what yall do-

[vico-sal@hotmail.com]

I dont agree with Dr. Gonzo's comment above. Many Mexicans who were victimized by blacks (when they had the numbers) in High School and the streets took their beatings like men without complaining and crying racism. The media didnt seem to take much notice when the Hispanics were getting jumped or outnumbered in these melees.

As a white male myself, I have always noticed Hispanics tend to be a lot more defensive and more resistant towards Black aggression than whites. No matter what the numbers are.

Ever since the the numbers have been in favor of the Hispanics, I noticed that many of the blacks start whining and crying for help. Calling out to the LAPD, Mayor Villargosa and other Hispanics city leaders for help.

Do you remember the Hispanics back in the days crying for help?

Man, why are you always on some type of latent racist tip? I myself am black, and have been raised in L.A. neighborhoods during the late 70's, 80's, and 90's, and I can tell you of a surety, as someone who has lived in the "hood" and have had, and have relatives that are gang affiliated, as well as someone who has attended L.A. High Schools, that-BLACK GANGS, NOR DID THE GENERAL BLACK POPULACE, HARASS AND COMMIT GENOCIDE, ON THE MEXICAN/CHICANO POPULATION, ON THE GRAND SCALE, THE WAY YOU AND OTHER FOLKS ARE TRYING TO MAKE OUT!

Mexicans were no more picked on, than black folks attending schools in predominantly mexican/chicano areas at the time. Again, I've had mexican/chicanos try and bully me, sometimes because I was black. I knew black kids going to predominantly mexican/chicano schools that would get picked on, and chased from school, while being called "monkeys," and all sorts of other racial epithets.

So just because you've attended, or worked at predominantly black high schools where there were a FEW mexicanos getting #%@& with, doesn't mean that it was on the major wide scale that you presently see today, but only in reverse. Neither does it mean that your one-sided, latently racist slant-IS THE REAL STORY!

Why aren't mexicans/chicanos today that live in black enclaves of L.A., in heavily drenched black gang territories, being #%@& with today, seeing as how today, black gangs have more of a reason to make the shit racial, SEEING AS HOW THESE BLACK GANGS ARE WARRING WITH MEXICAN GANGS, WITH A RACIST AGENDA? I'll tell you why, and that's because, despite black gangs’ faults and imperfections, as a collective unit, BLACK GANGS DON'T ROLL THAT WAY!!

As I said before, I remember small ese gangs, thriving in large crip or blood territories, walking on the humble, not starting shit, nor maddogging black gang members and whatnot. I even remember some surs back in the day, introducing themselves to the dominant black gang members, coming in peace, while trying to invoke truces, so all this stuff about mexicans/chicanos really taking it to black gangs back in those days is FALSE (to a huge extent, even though you had your exceptions, mind you)!! Many of them were on the humble tip, and are on the humble tip across this country, where they are surrounded by a black majority. HOWEVER, with many of them, once they get their numbers, regardless of what black folks supposedly did to them or not, whether it be real or imagined (much of it is lies, lies, and more damn lies), the one thing that I do know is-THIS IS WHEN THEY (mexicans/chicanos) BEGIN TO FLEX AS BADASSES!

And muthafuckas on here can say all they want to, about black folks not wanting to mess with the surenos and whatnot, but 1) I do know that the surenos didn't want to fu-- with the black inmates who were apart of BGF back in the day, that's why their was a temporary truce; and 2) I do know that back in the day, well, I'm going to digress from what I was about to say...

Nevertheless, I will say that 35 black inmates taking on 150 inmates of the other persuasion, isn't a sign of cowardice, or punkishness. You have racist devils on this site who always talk about black folks having no heart (and these folks only seem to test or punk black folks "heart," in areas where they have a population that is either equal, or damn near dominant with their kind), and being cowardly, and that's okay, even though it's a bunch of BS! Because in the end, mexicans/chicanos, and their white supremacist allies, out this way, will compel black folks more and more, to become racialist, and more fierce when it comes to fighting certain groups, seeing as how certain groups are out to take down their existence as citizens of this earth, simply because they're black!

35 black inmates, up against 150 mexican inmates, and folks on this thread have the nerves to say blacks don't want to fu-- with the surenos: I WONDER WHY?! IS IT BECAUSE THOSE FOOLS GOT THE NUMBERS!!! They're not doing anything spectacular or something on a grand scale!

I mean DAAAAAAAMN!!!! What do brothers have to do, to get some credit as being some bad muthafuckas??

Oh, so I guess when a bunch of samurais, or white soldiers running into a volley of gunfire, that would be considered brave and heroic, despite it being considered foolish, whereas black men, who may do the exact same thing, would be considered stupid savage niggers, who know little about modern warfare, etc.

It's all propaganda. In the end, black folks in Southern Cali, better free their minds, so that THEIR ASSES WILL FOLLOW!!

truth is real----that the articles says 35 blacks fought against 125 mexicans---but I want you to know it dont mean there was only 35 black imates in the yard---nah man when surenos are outnumbered 50-1 like in the north they still ALL get down or get stabbed for not jumping it off!!!!swear it.but blacks are different they dont have the collective attitude SUR has" meaning: they was probably alot more than 35 blacks -but ONLY 35 decided to fight for their race. MOST probably -didnt choose to help out their own black brothers and -(i seen it alot of times) and didnt take part in the riot-EVERY mexican regardless of gang affiliation or paisa status are GONNA jump in a riot or get killed-you guys dont have repercussions to black men sitting out a riot-I swear it! and black men feel no loyalty to eachother unless they from the same gang and shit

[MARTINEZ]

Vico,

SHUT THE FU-CK UP, FOOL !!

You sound like a weak ass wanna-be with that pedo.

If you were the Real Deal, there would be NO need to talk all that MIERDA.

[TheReal]

I dont agree with Dr. Gonzo's comment above. Many Mexicans who were victimized by blacks (when they had the numbers) in High School and the streets took their beatings like men without complaining and crying racism. The media didnt seem to take much notice when the Hispanics were getting jumped or outnumbered in these melees.

As a white male myself, I have always noticed Hispanics tend to be a lot more defensive and more resistant towards Black aggression than whites. No matter what the numbers are.

Ever since the the numbers have been in favor of the Hispanics, I noticed that many of the blacks start whining and crying for help. Calling out to the LAPD, Mayor Villargosa and other Hispanics city leaders for help.

Do you remember the Hispanics back in the days crying for help?

Man, why are you always on some type of latent racist tip? I myself am black, and have been raised in L.A. neighborhoods during the late 70's, 80's, and 90's, and I can tell you of a surety, as someone who has lived in the "hood" and have had, and have relatives that are gang affiliated, as well as someone who has attended L.A. High Schools, that-BLACK GANGS, NOR DID THE GENERAL BLACK POPULACE, HARASS AND COMMIT GENOCIDE, ON THE MEXICAN/CHICANO POPULATION, ON THE GRAND SCALE, THE WAY YOU AND OTHER FOLKS ARE TRYING TO MAKE OUT!

Mexicans were no more picked on, than black folks attending schools in predominantly mexican/chicano areas at the time. Again, I've had mexican/chicanos try and bully me, sometimes because I was black. I knew black kids going to predominantly mexican/chicano schools that would get picked on, and chased from school, while being called "monkeys," and all sorts of other racial epithets.

So just because you've attended, or worked at predominantly black high schools where there were a FEW mexicanos getting #%@& with, doesn't mean that it was on the major wide scale that you presently see today, but only in reverse. Neither does it mean that your one-sided, latently racist slant-IS THE REAL STORY!

Why aren't mexicans/chicanos today that live in black enclaves of L.A., in heavily drenched black gang territories, being #%@& with today, seeing as how today, black gangs have more of a reason to make the shit racial, SEEING AS HOW THESE BLACK GANGS ARE WARRING WITH MEXICAN GANGS, WITH A RACIST AGENDA? I'll tell you why, and that's because, despite black gangs’ faults and imperfections, as a collective unit, BLACK GANGS DON'T ROLL THAT WAY!!

As I said before, I remember small ese gangs, thriving in large crip or blood territories, walking on the humble, not starting shit, nor maddogging black gang members and whatnot. I even remember some surs back in the day, introducing themselves to the dominant black gang members, coming in peace, while trying to invoke truces, so all this stuff about mexicans/chicanos really taking it to black gangs back in those days is FALSE (to a huge extent, even though you had your exceptions, mind you)!! Many of them were on the humble tip, and are on the humble tip across this country, where they are surrounded by a black majority. HOWEVER, with many of them, once they get their numbers, regardless of what black folks supposedly did to them or not, whether it be real or imagined (much of it is lies, lies, and more damn lies), the one thing that I do know is-THIS IS WHEN THEY (mexicans/chicanos) BEGIN TO FLEX AS BADASSES!

And muthafuckas on here can say all they want to, about black folks not wanting to mess with the surenos and whatnot, but 1) I do know that the surenos didn't want to fu-- with the black inmates who were apart of BGF back in the day, that's why their was a temporary truce; and 2) I do know that back in the day, well, I'm going to digress from what I was about to say...

Nevertheless, I will say that 35 black inmates taking on 150 inmates of the other persuasion, isn't a sign of cowardice, or punkishness. You have racist devils on this site who always talk about black folks having no heart (and these folks only seem to test or punk black folks "heart," in areas where they have a population that is either equal, or damn near dominant with their kind), and being cowardly, and that's okay, even though it's a bunch of BS! Because in the end, mexicans/chicanos, and their white supremacist allies, out this way, will compel black folks more and more, to become racialist, and more fierce when it comes to fighting certain groups, seeing as how certain groups are out to take down their existence as citizens of this earth, simply because they're black!

35 black inmates, up against 150 mexican inmates, and folks on this thread have the nerves to say blacks don't want to fu-- with the surenos: I WONDER WHY?! IS IT BECAUSE THOSE FOOLS GOT THE NUMBERS!!! They're not doing anything spectacular or something on a grand scale!

I mean DAAAAAAAMN!!!! What do brothers have to do, to get some credit as being some bad muthafuckas??

Oh, so I guess when a bunch of samurais, or white soldiers running into a volley of gunfire, that would be considered brave and heroic, despite it being considered foolish, whereas black men, who may do the exact same thing, would be considered stupid savage niggers, who know little about modern warfare, etc.

It's all propaganda. In the end, black folks in Southern Cali, better free their minds, so that THEIR ASSES WILL FOLLOW!!

truth is real----that the articles says 35 blacks fought against 125 mexicans---but I want you to know it dont mean there was only 35 black imates in the yard---nah man when surenos are outnumbered 50-1 like in the north they still ALL get down or get stabbed for not jumping it off!!!!swear it.but blacks are different they dont have the collective attitude SUR has" meaning: they was probably alot more than 35 blacks -but ONLY 35 decided to fight for their race. MOST probably -didnt choose to help out their own black brothers and -(i seen it alot of times) and didnt take part in the riot-EVERY mexican regardless of gang affiliation or paisa status are GONNA jump in a riot or get killed-you guys dont have repercussions to black men sitting out a riot-I swear it! and black men feel no loyalty to eachother unless they from the same gang and shit

I was in lockdown (where, I will not tell you, nor do I wish to reveal my identity by getting all up close and personal with fools) once, where in my area, there were on 17 blacks, and 42 mexicans, and the mexicans rolled and smashed on us. And the funny thing about it, is that these racist sureno sons of bitches-BEGAN BRAGGING ALL THROUGHOUT THAT JOINT, ABOUT HOW THEY ROLLED, AND SMASHED ON SOME BLACK FOLKS!!

And mind you, again, there was literally only 17 of us, whereas there was 42 of your racist brethren.

Naw man, for sureno devils to get off on that shit, just lets me know that at the core, you guys are bullies, and those fools have no code.

[TheReal]

Vico,

SHUT THE FU-CK UP, FOOL !!

You sound like a weak ass wanna-be with that pedo.

If you were the Real Deal, there would be NO need to talk all that MIERDA.

I don't know how old you are, neither do I know how old this cat is, but check it-I'VE HEARD YOUR OWN SURENO BRETHREN, ESPECIALLY IN THIS GENERATION, WHETHER THEY BE OLD OR YOUNG, TALK THE SHIT HE TALKS, ON A REGULAR!

Just ask any black person who has had to really deal with the racists amongst your kind, especially sureno bastards! Man, I've heard your own people tell me to my face, that mexicans are taking over, and that they're going to wipe out black folks, and kill us for sport!

I've heard this talk, not just on the net, BUT IN REAL LIFE!!! And you know the funny thing about all of this is-SO HAVE YOU!

[d-train]

Vico,

SHUT THE FU-CK UP, FOOL !!

You sound like a weak ass wanna-be with that pedo.

If you were the Real Deal, there would be NO need to talk all that MIERDA.

I don't know how old you are, neither do I know how old this cat is, but check it-I'VE HEARD YOUR OWN SURENO BRETHREN, ESPECIALLY IN THIS GENERATION, WHETHER THEY BE OLD OR YOUNG, TALK THE SHIT HE TALKS, ON A REGULAR!

Just ask any black person who has had to really deal with the racists amongst your kind, especially sureno bastards! Man, I've heard your own people tell me to my face, that mexicans are taking over, and that they're going to wipe out black folks, and kill us for sport!

I've heard this talk, not just on the net, BUT IN REAL LIFE!!! And you know the funny thing about all of this is-SO HAVE YOU!

Man all you scary niggas can leave LA. I been jumped by niggas in my hood, and not have a single brother help me, and I've been jumped by essays in their hood, and have some essays come to my assistance. Like I said some essays are cool, some are not. It depends on the status of the beef in the hoods.

[Lonewolf]

QUESTION?

If Sureños are so weak that all they can do is run up on old ladies
and bust open with their numbers ~~. how come the all-mighty
Bloood & Crrip nation has not been able to squash them?

Everytime I see one of them programs on tv like msnbc's lockdown
what do I see ~~> Blacks running their mouths. I rarely see Browns
being interviewed. Out in the streets, that was the same case . . .
Blacks were quick to run with a story all the way to the man's ears.

Then you get Jesse and Farrakhan, uncle sam, AME and all, stepping in
in your favor. Brown is the new devil, brown is racist & genocidal, this
and that ~~> man, f*ck that crap ~~> and quit baby crying.

[johnnnny]

-to think all surenos and chianos are racist is believing a stereotype and a down right fabricated lie. the real sounds alot like madmiddle if yo ask me

[perongregory]

-to think all surenos and chianos are racist is believing a stereotype and a down right fabricated lie. the real sounds alot like madmiddle if yo ask me

It's like this, in Nazi Germany not every german was racist but the main power was and they had the authority to kick your ass if you went against the grain, and that is what we are seeing. VIco says the shit many times surs gotta help, gotta put work in on blacks or get dealt with by their own.

And so what black leaders jump in, civillians are being targeted on purpose to ignite not a gang war but a race war as longero member proud and brave sureno vico puts it.

[johnnnny]

It's like this, in Nazi Germany not every german was racist but the main power was and they had the authority to kick your ass if you went against the grain, and that is what we are seeing

i read that MS13 or whatever number was started when peurto ricans and el salvadorians migrated to america to escape problems in there countries. BUt MS13 followed them and continued to harrass them cause they were part black or something.... Is that were the hatred started from or does it go back to colonialism and the spanish caste system?

[Black_Kingz86]

The day that Black Gangs start stooping down to the MEXICANS COWARDLY WAYS of gangbanging things r gonna get real ugly mexicans r gonna start getting blasted left right and centre but luckily black gangstas dont shoot pregnant women or 4 year olds jus because they are mexican , that right there make me proud at least niggaz dont roll like these bitch ass mexican niggaz , who shoot innocents , jus because of racial hate . even despite all this u dont even hear too much mexican outrage to what theyre fellow ppl r doing , every mexican monkey seems to either not care or either theyre alright with it , that proves the bitch in y'all.

mexicans r perfect example4es of uncle toms they collaborate with neo nazis racist skinheads who hate both blacks and mexicans , but mexicans seem to have no problem sucking the white mans dick jus so they can bang on black ppl!!!

[MARTINEZ]

.....

mexicans r perfect example4es of uncle toms they collaborate with neo nazis racist skinheads who hate both blacks and mexicans , but mexicans seem to have no problem sucking the white mans dick jus so they can bang on black ppl!!!

OK...
Shit for Brains ....

What about the THOUSANDS of NORTHERN CHICANOS (NORTENOS 14) that are ALLIES with the blacks in the Calif system.

How do they fit into your "collaboration theory"

How are they "sucking the white mans dick"

I got an idea...Why don't you and Vico hook up and vent your frustrations out on each other
"BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER"

[WIP]

QUESTION?

If Sureños are so weak that all they can do is run up on old ladies
and bust open with their numbers ~~. how come the all-mighty
Bloood & Crrip nation has not been able to squash them?

plain and simple. Surenos/Eme control the dope. Where do you think Gz are gettin a MAJORITY of that ya from? Dope still controls the street.

[WIP]

Blacks were quick to run with a story all the way to the man's ears.

Lone dont you WORK for the man?? With 14 year old girl and innocent fathers targeted you want blacks to quit cryin?? I guess blacks should just shut up and take it up the culo huh ese?