Why do you believe in God?

[frozen fire]

This site is worth checking out.

http://www.hyahya.org/articles/20questions01.php

peace.

[worldwide]

animals "do not have souls" yet we see in the bible where GOD used them to get HIS point across!!! they have no reasoning capabilities,
no matter how much they are trained.

in the old testament GOD(in moses time) put certain structures in order when dealing with certain animals, which was a matter of discipline and health(why HE forbidded pork and certain other animals) for dwelling in the desert.

[johnnnny]

i believe in the ape theory if its still being debated, and as for god being there i agree he is there too, because i do believe in a soul and animals do think reasonably or else they would just sit around dumb

[chriscomis]

if the rat gnome looks more closely to humans than chimps i aint seeing it

This is, once again, a great example of how limited and myopic scientific investigation is. The gnome presentation is an example of a basic fallacy in logic: The Reductionistic Fallacy. This fallacy says that the whole of a thing should not be defined solely in terms of its parts, or a single part. It is sometimes referred to as the "Fallacy of Composition." Again, this is an attempt to infer a property of the whole from a property of its parts, or a single part- e.g., "I can pick up various parts of this airplane; therefore I can pick up the whole airplane." Or, "A part of the human body is similar to a part of a chimps body; therefore humans must be evolved from chimps, or from a common ancestor."

Depending on your presuppositions (that is, your basic beliefs about God, the world, man, etc.), this genetic similarity could just as easily be accounted for by appealing to a Common Creator. Nay, better accounted for by appealing to a Common Creator who designed two creatures to be very similar in a number of ways (not just genetically either). Chimps are warm-blooded, man is warm blooded. Chimps grow hair, men grow hair. Chimps communicate with one another, men communicate with one another. But this no more proves common ancestry than an appeal to the fact that both flies and men have eyes proves common ancestry.

Having said all that, my point is simply that modern science has a tendency to be highly reductionistic, as the last post has shown. Modern scientists think almost entirely in terms of 'points', and leave out other necessary aspects of creation, like 'waves' and 'fields.' Discontinuity and atomistic reductionism is privileged over continuity and context.

Not to mention, classical Darwinianism was used mightily to promote a racist agenda, especially in the succeeding years after the first printing of Origin of the Species. This is one reason why the more racially sensitive and sociologically focused neo-Darwinians of our day have been pushing the "common ancestor" argument. "Postmodern" Darwinians finally realized how racist classical Darwinianism was, or at least was becoming in the late 1800's. BTW, Hitler thought it was a great account of origins as well.

Just some more philosophical slangin' and bangin'.

[johnnnny]

Not to mention, classical Darwinianism was used mightily to promote a racist agenda

i believe in evolution because if evolution did not exist there wouldnt be several different versions of man. Homo (genus). All were different but all were man and all evolved differently due to there surroundings. And we are one of those, and if people dont evolve then we would all look the same. Thats what i believe, that isnt racist. We evolved from being more "apelike" ,because before were were were tools (fire, wheel) there were people running around going "duh duh duh duh duh duh". And we were an animal.

I believe in the soul and that anything alive has one, including animals again if they didnt they wouldnt think reasonably. FOr example if i came running at you with my buddies with a bunch of spears to eat you, you would obviously run, right? So would an animal, they just think differently because there species evolved differently physically from our own.

I can pick up various parts of this airplane; therefore I can pick up the whole airplane."

no shit those various parts make the airplane run as one, they call it airplane parts

[chriscomis]

Not to mention, classical Darwinianism was used mightily to promote a racist agenda

i believe in evolution because if evolution did not exist there wouldnt be several different versions of man. Homo (genus). All were different but all were man and all evolved differently due to there surroundings. And we are one of those, and if people dont evolve then we would all look the same. Thats what i believe, that isnt racist. We evolved from being more "apelike" ,because before were were were tools (fire, wheel) there were people running around going "duh duh duh duh duh duh". And we were an animal.

Not a bad Credo for an evolutionist. I have to give you much props for the strong faith you have in a totally blind evolutionary process. Your faith is greater than mine young Pad won. Here is how strong your faith is: faith in a process that would take billions of absolutely random "miracles" to produce even one living cell. So your gods of time-and-chance-acting-on-matter are pretty amazing gods. Except for the fact that they are all impersonal, and impersonal things could never "create" personal things, no matter how many miraculous millennia there were. Also, you are just begging the question with regards the common ancestor issue. You are just assuming that blacks and whites had the same onto-genetic ancestor. If blacks descended from one specie of monkey and whites from another, who's to say one specie hasn't reached a "higher" stage of evolution than the other? We all know of white supremacists who argue that Caucasians have, and we know of some black separatists who argue Negroids have. Pick any race, and I guarantee there are separatists in it who would argue from onto-genetic evolutionary supremacy. Furthermore, the whole notion of difference can only be accounted for in a fully Trinitarian cosmos- i.e., a world where unity and diversity are equally ultimate. Your pantheon of gods: Time, Matter, Chance, Unity, Random-Miracle, ET AL.; could never "create" full unity nor full diversity.

I believe in the soul and that anything alive has one, including animals again if they didn't they wouldn't think reasonably. FOr example if i came running at you with my buddies with a bunch of spears to eat you, you would obviously run, right? So would an animal, they just think differently because there species evolved differently physically from our own.

This is where you are living off of stolen Christian capital. Only the Scriptures have presented a world with soulish animals. Genesis 1:28-30 God command and blesses the animals, and throughout that portion of Scripture He refers to them as "living things." The Hebrew for this is nephesh and it literally means 'soul', 'life', 'living soul'. It is the same word used when "God breathed into the nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being (a nephesh)." (cf. Gen 2:7)

I can pick up various parts of this airplane; therefore I can pick up the whole airplane."

no shit those various parts make the airplane run as one, they call it airplane parts

Whether or not they make the airplane run as a whole is not the point. The point is that even though I may be able to physically carry one of the bolts that holds the wing to the plane in my back pocket, that doesn't mean I can carry the whole plane in my back pocket. If this illustration is too confusing, then try this one: "Various parts of clothing on a Big Thug Crip Gangsta are red (like the tag in his undies); therefore the whole BTCG is red."

I'm out,

Christus Victor

[chriscomis]

Not to mention, classical Darwinianism was used mightily to promote a racist agenda

i believe in evolution because if evolution did not exist there wouldnt be several different versions of man. Homo (genus). All were different but all were man and all evolved differently due to there surroundings. And we are one of those, and if people dont evolve then we would all look the same. Thats what i believe, that isnt racist. We evolved from being more "apelike" ,because before were were were tools (fire, wheel) there were people running around going "duh duh duh duh duh duh". And we were an animal.

I believe in the soul and that anything alive has one, including animals again if they didn't they wouldn't think reasonably. FOr example if i came running at you with my buddies with a bunch of spears to eat you, you would obviously run, right? So would an animal, they just think differently because there species evolved differently physically from our own.

I can pick up various parts of this airplane; therefore I can pick up the whole airplane."

no shit those various parts make the airplane run as one, they call it airplane parts

[sorry about that, my last attempt at posting this got biznacked with the jiznack!!]

Not a bad Credo for an evolutionist. I have to give you much props for the strong faith you have in a totally blind evolutionary process. Your faith is greater than mine young Pad won. Here is how strong your faith is: faith in a process that would take billions of absolutely random "miracles" to produce even one living cell. So your gods of time-and-chance-acting-on-matter are pretty amazing gods. Except for the fact that they are all impersonal, and impersonal things could never "create" personal things, no matter how many miraculous millennia there were. Also, you are just begging the question with regards the common ancestor issue. You are just assuming that blacks and whites had the same onto-genetic ancestor. If blacks descended from one specie of monkey and whites from another, who's to say one specie hasn't reached a "higher" stage of evolution than the other? We all know of white supremacists who argue that Caucasians have, and we know of some black separatists who argue Negroids have. Pick any race, and I guarantee there are separatists in it who would argue from onto-genetic evolutionary supremacy. Furthermore, the whole notion of difference can only be accounted for in a fully Trinitarian cosmos- i.e., a world where unity and diversity are equally ultimate. Your pantheon of gods: Time, Matter, Chance, Unity, Random-Miracle, ET AL.; could never "create" full unity nor full diversity.

This is where you are living off of stolen Christian capital. Only the Scriptures have presented a world with soulish animals. Genesis 1:28-30 God command and blesses the animals, and throughout that portion of Scripture He refers to them as "living things." The Hebrew for this is nephesh and it literally means 'soul', 'life', 'living soul'. It is the same word used when "God breathed into the nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being (a nephesh)." (cf. Gen 2:7)

Whether or not they make the airplane run as a whole is not the point. The point is that even though I may be able to physically carry one of the bolts that holds the wing to the plane in my back pocket, that doesn't mean I can carry the whole plane in my back pocket. If this illustration is too confusing, then try this one: "Various parts of clothing on a Big Thug Crip Gangsta are red (like the tag in his undies); therefore the whole BTCG is red."

I'm out,

Christus Victor

[A Ghost]

This site is worth checking out.

http://www.hyahya.org/articles/20questions01.php

peace.

I heard that there was a way to refute all those

[frozen fire]

^I'd like to hear it.

[johnnnny]

Not a bad Credo for an evolutionist. I have to give you much props for the strong faith you have in a totally blind evolutionary process.

So your gods of time-and-chance-acting-on-matter are pretty amazing gods. Except for the fact that they are all impersonal, and impersonal things could never "create" personal things, no matter how many miraculous millennia there were

You are just assuming that blacks and whites had the same onto-genetic ancestor. If blacks descended from one specie of monkey and whites from another, who's to say one specie hasn't reached a "higher" stage of evolution than the other?

, now your getting racial

Your pantheon of gods: Time, Matter, Chance, Unity, Random-Miracle, ET AL.; could never "create" full unity nor full diversity.

This is where you are living off of stolen Christian capital

plain and simple i have strong belief, compared to you, i know what i believe and i believe your not understanding me

[johnnnny]

^I'd like to hear it.

-christianity and islam are refuting everything from gravity to evolution.... and both are just as stupid
-and i bet you there all crazy zealots that got a D in chemistry and an A in religon
-both christianity and islam are flawed and twisted, if anyone of them was as true as people make it out to be there would be no hating in the world

[johnnnny]

This is where you are living off of stolen Christian capital

[johnnnny]

This is where you are living off of stolen Christian capital

and might i add fool your living of scientific capital by typing on that keyboard

[A Ghost]

damn johnnnny's schoolin mutha f-ckas


To the guy who tried to refute evolution.

If its impossible for nothing to create a cell


Then how is it possible for an invisible cloud being to create a cell?

They are both nothing

[EmperorPenguin]

I don't think I fall into either arguing category here but one thing about evolution that has always stumped me is if everything was just dandy as a single celled organism why did we ever evolve from there? Why didn't we all just stay little micro-organisms swimming around enjoying life? And if we did evolve from there, why did we have to evolve into so many freaking different things that are so different from each other? Shouldn't we have evolved into similiar things yet slightly different for our enviroment? And lastly, why didn't I evolve into a Transformer? I'm not picky, Autobot or Decepticon would have been fine, but I'm pretty sure my life would have been a lot easier had I been a Transformer.

[MiChuhSuh]

^I'd like to hear it.

-christianity and islam are refuting everything from gravity to evolution.... and both are just as stupid
-and i bet you there all crazy zealots that got a D in chemistry and an A in religon
-both christianity and islam are flawed and twisted, if anyone of them was as true as people make it out to be there would be no hating in the world

Do you even know what evolution is?

We do not "refute" evolution, we refute common decent. Change within a species is reasonable and proven. However, change from inanimate molecules to functional organisms has yet to be proven, and that is what we refute.

P.S.

-and i bet you there all crazy zealots that got a D in chemistry and an A in religon

1. You should have said Biology (which I got an A in)
2. I got an A in AP Calculus

[A Ghost]

AP Calc?


I hate you

lol J/P ya smaht bastahd (unclue ruckus voice)

[frozen fire]

frozen fire wrote:
This site is worth checking out.

http://www.hyahya.org/articles/20questions01.php

peace.


I heard that there was a way to refute all those

I have still not heard * of the way to refute all those*.

[Lonewolf]

THERE IS NO ARGUMENT AGAINST EVOLUTION WITHIN A SPECIES

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CATS, ALL KINDS OF DOGS, ALL KINDS OF BIRDS
AND ALL DIFFERENT COLORS AND SIZES OF HUMANS. . . THERE IS NO
ARGUMENT IN ALL THAT AND EVOLUTION DOES HELP AND ASSISTS
HUMANS INTO ACCULTURATION TO VARIOUS HABITATS WITH DIFFERENT
CLIMATES AND RESOURCES TO LIVE OFF. THE FORCES OF NATURE AND
THE DANGERS FACED, AS WELL AS A MULTITUDE OF OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES
ALL HELP TO EXPLAIN WAY "CHANGES AND ADAPTATION" ARE NEEDED.
BUT YOU WILL NEVER FIND EVIDENCE THAT A PIG TURNS INTO A COW,
OR THAT A WHALE TURNS INTO A SHARK. AND THE SAME IS TRUE FOR
NEVER HAVING FOUND AN ACTUAL "MUMMY" "FOSSIL" OR ANY OTHER
TYPR OF "VERIFIABLE TRUTH" ABOUT AN APE TURNING INTO A HUMAN.
ALL YOU HAVE IS SOME SKULLS THAT HAVE A RESEMBLANCE TO THE
HUMAN SKULL AND A LOT OF HYPOTETICAL THEORIES & CONJUCTURES,
BUT NO "MISSING LINK" HAS EVER BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. . IT'S LIKE
THE BIG BANG THEORY ~~> IT'S A THEORY THAT KEEPS CIRCULATING
BUT TDOES NOT EXPLAIN "LIFE" ITSELF. IT MAYBE EXPLAIN SOLAR SYSTEMS
MATTER AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS ~~> BUT IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN
"LIFE".. WHY IS IT THAT IS MAN HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT EVOLUTION
FROM AN APE ~~> WHY HAVEN'T THEY EVER FOUND A SPECIMEN THAT
REFUTES "CREATION"? WHY IS IT ALWAYS SOME HALF-A*SS THEORY
AND NEVER STEP BY STEP EVOLUTIONARY "BODIES"? I MEAN, YOU CAN
FIND ALL KINDS OF DYNOS AND KINDS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HORSES
FROM THE MIDGET TYPE TO THE FULL-BLOWNED MODERN HORSE, BUT
YOU CAN'T FIND "SKELETONS" OF MAN IN ALL ITS EVOLUTIONARY STATES.

EVOLUTION WITHIN SPECIES IS ONE THING, TRANSFORMATION BETWEEN
AN APE INTO A MAN IS ANOTHER THING. HOW COME YOU DON'T FIND APES
THAT ARE HALF-WAYS DONE? HALF-WAYS BETWEEN BEAST AND MAN?
YOU FIGURE IF THEY GO FROM APE TO MAN, THAT SOME WOULD STILL
GOING THROUGH THE TRANSFORMATION RIGHT? I MEAN THAT IS WHAT
EVOLUTION VERSUS CREATION TEACHES RIGHT?
EVEN BETTER ~~> BEFORE MAN, BEFORE THE APE, WHAT WERE WE?
LIZARDS? BIRDS? SABERTOOTH? MASTODONS? PLANTON? DUST PARTICLES?
AND IF WE WERE ONCE "DUST PARTICLES" ~~> WHY IS IT SO HARD TO
BELEIVE THAT GOD MADE US OUT OF MUD & DIRT? IT IS STILL MATTER RIGHT?

[johnnnny]

BUT IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN
"LIFE"..

nothing we have science and the bible can explain life.
the bible is ancient thinking they thought alot simpler than we do obviously, but they werent any less stupid (No ones saying they are) they just dont have the accuracy we have today.

For example the ancient greek( ) physican Hippocrates wrote about people who had an "overbalance of fire over water"(old school thinking) and described them with symptons of quickened responses to sensory experience, but also less tenaciousness because the soul moves on quickly to the next impression. Pretty much describing people with ADHD today, we just wouldnt say it the same way. And what im saying that today we say things differently like its because of a combination of different genes(science) but people dont realize that it means the same thing to the people who were living in the respective times :shock: People thought the sun was a god and its just a star. Human thinking just keeps on widening. To me religon and science thinking are kinda the same, except i like the science part cause its more accurate.

I believe in a soul and that there is a higher power, and that i believe in god but not the god that has caused so many wars.....its hard for me to think that a hand from the sky pointed at the mud and created man from nothing..... (Mabye its true cause with all the fighting over religon we have mud for brains) There have been mass extinctions that have left animals the size of a mouse of smaller left and yet theres still life larger than a mouse on this planet today, where did they come from.... how come the bible doesnt have records of the neanderthals? Were did we come from, and if god created us on this planet whats to say he didnt do the same elsewhere. When i read the bible god sounded like an alien.... But dont get me wrong if thats the case it still doesnt explain what life is...

And michusuh i said chemistry cause i said gravity and evolution and i picked something in between....

no hard feelings

[Lonewolf]

how come the bible doesnt have records of the neanderthals? Were did we come from, and if god created us on this planet whats to say he didnt do the same elsewhere. When i read the bible god sounded like an alien....

The Bible story takes quantum leaps in terms of creation, the problem is
when people want to stick to the simple "6 day creation" in literal terms.
But the Bible does not sway away from science, quite the opposite, science
has proven made tribute to the wise words spoken of in sacred writtings.
Scince limits itself to what can be physically proven, but the Bible and
other sacred texts dwell on the spiritual ~~> that that can not be seen
but that which nevertheless "affects" mankind. You can be the healthiest
mothafucka on earth "physically," but if your spirit is lonely, then you are
the most dreched being on this earth ~~> WHY? Because we are trapped
between the material and the spiritual. GOD IS SPIRIT, and one must let
go of this material school and graduate to the spirit in order to comprehend
what "True Life" is all about. <<~ Maybe that is why GOD sounds like an
alien to the many. You're trying to see Him through material eyes, as opposed
to SPIRITUAL eyes.

[A Ghost]

Spitiual as in meditation and inner peace?

Or spiritual as in invisible cloud beings that can levitate an oven with one thought....

[Lonewolf]

Spitiual as in meditation and inner peace?

Or spiritual as in invisible cloud beings that can levitate an oven with one thought....

SPIRITUAL AS IN HAVING A REAL MIND THAT "THINKS" AND NOT ONE
THAT ONLY REACTS TO IMPULSE AND DRIVEN BY "NO REAL BRAINS"

[johnnnny]

You're trying to see Him through material eyes, as opposed
to SPIRITUAL eyes.

the whole debate started because people thought animals werent aware etc... i see ourself through material eyes because thats what were made up of (genes), that houses our soul. I said in my last post

To me religon and science thinking are kinda the same, except i like the science part cause its more accurate

I believe in a god and that he gave us soul or life, but not how the bible presents it.

SPIRITUAL AS IN HAVING A REAL MIND THAT "THINKS" AND NOT ONE
THAT ONLY REACTS TO IMPULSE AND DRIVEN BY "NO REAL BRAINS"

that depends on the person, people think differently

[MiChuhSuh]

THERE IS NO ARGUMENT AGAINST EVOLUTION WITHIN A SPECIES

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CATS, ALL KINDS OF DOGS, ALL KINDS OF BIRDS
AND ALL DIFFERENT COLORS AND SIZES OF HUMANS. . . THERE IS NO
ARGUMENT IN ALL THAT AND EVOLUTION DOES HELP AND ASSISTS
HUMANS INTO ACCULTURATION TO VARIOUS HABITATS WITH DIFFERENT
CLIMATES AND RESOURCES TO LIVE OFF. THE FORCES OF NATURE AND
THE DANGERS FACED, AS WELL AS A MULTITUDE OF OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES
ALL HELP TO EXPLAIN WAY "CHANGES AND ADAPTATION" ARE NEEDED.
BUT YOU WILL NEVER FIND EVIDENCE THAT A PIG TURNS INTO A COW,
OR THAT A WHALE TURNS INTO A SHARK. AND THE SAME IS TRUE FOR
NEVER HAVING FOUND AN ACTUAL "MUMMY" "FOSSIL" OR ANY OTHER
TYPR OF "VERIFIABLE TRUTH" ABOUT AN APE TURNING INTO A HUMAN.
ALL YOU HAVE IS SOME SKULLS THAT HAVE A RESEMBLANCE TO THE
HUMAN SKULL AND A LOT OF HYPOTETICAL THEORIES & CONJUCTURES,
BUT NO "MISSING LINK" HAS EVER BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. . IT'S LIKE
THE BIG BANG THEORY ~~> IT'S A THEORY THAT KEEPS CIRCULATING
BUT TDOES NOT EXPLAIN "LIFE" ITSELF. IT MAYBE EXPLAIN SOLAR SYSTEMS
MATTER AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS ~~> BUT IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN
"LIFE".. WHY IS IT THAT IS MAN HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT EVOLUTION
FROM AN APE ~~> WHY HAVEN'T THEY EVER FOUND A SPECIMEN THAT
REFUTES "CREATION"? WHY IS IT ALWAYS SOME HALF-A*SS THEORY
AND NEVER STEP BY STEP EVOLUTIONARY "BODIES"? I MEAN, YOU CAN
FIND ALL KINDS OF DYNOS AND KINDS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HORSES
FROM THE MIDGET TYPE TO THE FULL-BLOWNED MODERN HORSE, BUT
YOU CAN'T FIND "SKELETONS" OF MAN IN ALL ITS EVOLUTIONARY STATES.

EVOLUTION WITHIN SPECIES IS ONE THING, TRANSFORMATION BETWEEN
AN APE INTO A MAN IS ANOTHER THING. HOW COME YOU DON'T FIND APES
THAT ARE HALF-WAYS DONE? HALF-WAYS BETWEEN BEAST AND MAN?
YOU FIGURE IF THEY GO FROM APE TO MAN, THAT SOME WOULD STILL
GOING THROUGH THE TRANSFORMATION RIGHT? I MEAN THAT IS WHAT
EVOLUTION VERSUS CREATION TEACHES RIGHT?
EVEN BETTER ~~> BEFORE MAN, BEFORE THE APE, WHAT WERE WE?
LIZARDS? BIRDS? SABERTOOTH? MASTODONS? PLANTON? DUST PARTICLES?
AND IF WE WERE ONCE "DUST PARTICLES" ~~> WHY IS IT SO HARD TO
BELEIVE THAT GOD MADE US OUT OF MUD & DIRT? IT IS STILL MATTER RIGHT?

props lonewolf

[Lonewolf]

SPIRITUAL AS IN HAVING A REAL MIND THAT "THINKS" AND NOT ONE
THAT ONLY REACTS TO IMPULSE AND DRIVEN BY "NO REAL BRAINS"

that depends on the person, people think differently

I WAS JUST FUCKIN' WITH GHOST ON THIS ONE . . . I'M GETTING
ANNOYED BY GHOST'S LACK OF TRUE "BRAINSTORMING" AND SIMPLE
REMARKS AND COMMENTS.

[johnnnny]

THAT A WHALE TURNS INTO A SHARK

thats true but they have theorys for a whales common ancestor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whales#Ori ... d_taxonomy
All cetaceans, including whales, dolphins and porpoises, are descendants of land-living mammals of the Artiodactyl order (even-toed ungulate animals). Both cetaceans and artiodactyl are now classified under the super-order Cetartiodactyla which includes both whales and hippos. In fact, whales are closest living relatives of hippos; they evolved from a common ancestor at around 54 million years ago.[1] Whales entered the water roughly 50 million years ago.[2]

thats a radical adaption and change, but i wouldnt say ape to human is as crazy.. if that can happen to a whale would it not be reasonable to think something of the same sort could happen to create humans? and the whale still has bones in its body a land mammel would have

ALL YOU HAVE IS A LOT OF HYPOTETICAL THEORIES & CONJUCTURES

just like the bible

EVOLUTION WITHIN SPECIES IS ONE THING, TRANSFORMATION BETWEEN
AN APE INTO A MAN IS ANOTHER THING.

hippo to whale is the same thing

[johnnnny]

SPIRITUAL AS IN HAVING A REAL MIND THAT "THINKS" AND NOT ONE
THAT ONLY REACTS TO IMPULSE AND DRIVEN BY "NO REAL BRAINS"

that depends on the person, people think differently

I WAS JUST FUCKIN' WITH GHOST ON THIS ONE . . . I'M GETTING
ANNOYED BY GHOST'S LACK OF TRUE "BRAINSTORMING" AND SIMPLE
REMARKS AND COMMENTS.

[Lonewolf]

"YOU'RE REACHING HOLMES"

STILL JUST A THEORY!

THE MATERIAL WILL ALWAYS CLASH WITH THE SPIRITUAL. . .

BUT THE SPIRITUAL ~~> HAS NO PROBLEM WITH SCIENCE.

SCIENCE ~~> POINTS TO A "COMMUNION" OF THAT "CREATED"

[johnnnny]

ill still never know the answer no matter what i do, how much i read, or how much i think about it , but i do know the almighty is up there he just works in mysterious ways

[MiChuhSuh]

^ nice location haha

[johnnnny]

^ nice location haha

, i just found it wierd you would bring it up, no one has nothing to prove

i just wanted you to notice it, and btw i got B's in bio and chem in high school but that doesnt mean anything

ill remove it