Canada

[schme]

Tons of fucks in Canada say there crips,but they have no connections with the real crips.There just fuckers who think there gangsta and pretend there with the crips.some of them are such fuckers they actually belive there real crips.not saying there are no gangs here, sa I said before,but no real crips.

[schme]

no bloods either.Don't lie buddy, the crips and bloods are in L.A.I belive other gangs shoot each other to death,I hear gunshots all the time,but they arn't bloods and crips.

[schme]

And hyp notica,I don't think you even live in Canada,and if you do you live a very sheltered life.Victim waitinng to happen? MY ASS!!!Friends minivan got stolen last weak AND was used to commit a burgarlary.I live in the suburb(notice i'm using a computer) (suburbs Inside the city by the by,not outside of it...........Dumbass)Oh, and, you have no clue about Canadian history ,Umm.....Lost my train of thought while calling you dumbass...............wait..........................oh, and I know this isn't helping to prove my point,ut toronto has 3 million and a couple hundred thousand something.Ottawas pretty big too.A million four hundred thousand and some.
And Its not as though i'm saying I'm a harcore gangsta or I have SUCH a hard life.Just saying i'm street smart..................And your not...........Anyway, in short,unless you know what youre talking about,well, Hyp No, just talk about what you know.I'm sure its very interesting.


No offence.Really, dont take offence.K?

[schme]

P.S. Kronic,youre info is fucked.There are no bloods or crips in Canada, and the black panthers were not a gang, they were a heavily armed civil rights group that kept racist politicians,cops,business men,KKK ect. in line, and the broke up in the late seveties.they were a very amirable group.Thats all.

And guys,I don't mean to offend anyone unles I say I am so don't get all pissed.

[schme]

WHAT? I didnt know they censored.I cuss all the time.Someone could have told me It wasn't aloud.Nobody tells me anything.Anywhay.Sorry administrators.

[schme]

wait i think there might be a couple reall bloods and crips up here.I forget sometimes.I'll shut up Now.Have other stuf to do.

SOUTHSIDE FO LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous20]

Ok schme seems like u cant make up ur mind, if theres real bloods and crips
In a previous post i said they are imitation blood and crip.
so they have no ties to those B's and C's in L.A
But some of these cats take shit serious, and will stomp out a nigga

My condolences Scarboro B, and i understand ur hate for Malvern Cats
No worry
I hear Regent Park Mans are coming for some malvern piece of ass.
and it has some malvern mans shook

Oh yea and for the Toronto gang list
MT. OLIVE CREW(Crips)
CENTER STREET BLOODS(damu)

[chris22]

how is there gonna be violent street gangs in toronto when the entire city of toronto only has about 10 murders a year?

[Anonymous20]

homie
what u mean there aint no violent street gangs
Toronto is Canada's more violent city, than its probably montreal
what u mean 10 murders a year.
Last year there was like 60-70 murders
before u say something think it over, and make it as factual as possible
ignorant people dem

[caineIsignz]

yea theres already been like 30 murders in TO this year.
If im not miskaten I think more?

[caineIsignz]

Tons of fucks in Canada say there crips,but they have no connections with the real crips.There just fuckers who think there gangsta and pretend there with the crips.some of them are such fuckers they actually belive there real crips.not saying there are no gangs here, sa I said before,but no real crips.

you're a 100% pure dumb ass idiot.
There is TONS of Blood and Crip gangs inside of Canada you dumb ass.
Toronto has the most gang activity in Canada.
Dont believe T.O. has Blood or Crip sets? Go visit the main Police Station in TO or go on a website or find somekind of Police presentation about gang activity inside of T.Dot homie. One cop from TO in a unit dealing with that shit will tell you right away theres blood sets especially, and crip.
T.O. is loaded, its a crazy and fucking dangerous city. The only thing it stands down from other main gang land cities in the states is cause guns aint legal unless you got liscence. So many sets wont be flashing this shit cause word is soon in Canada that if you got a gat with out a liscence, you can be looking up to 10 years in the joint. Just cause theres no guns, and no murders that happen from guns dont mean TO aint dangerous and isnt active with Gangs. Get you're shit straight, TO is loaded with gang bangers. If Canada had the same rules as US about guns, any money that there would be the exact same number of murders in TO and LA.

People like you say that gangs out side of US arnt real. WAKE THE F*** UP homie, the WORLD IS REAL. EVERYTHING IS REAL. If cops know theres a blood set in TO. THERE IS. These katz (like you) say that .."these gangs aint real"...f*** look around brother. You just aint seen it in the real life homie. When you see it, you will believe it. YOUR A FAKE! cAuse you don't know which sets are up in TO and you claiming that nothing is going on.
**** IGNORANT LOc'S like you!

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"TAKE MY FLAGS OUT MY POCKET,..WRAP IT AROUND MY KNUCKLES MAKE A FIST AND ROCK IT"

[swordswinging]

Toronto gangs = Overhype

Mostly filled with lazy people who would rather spend the rest of their life in MTHA (MTHA is Toronto style housing projects, for those who don't know) and not work. 95% of Toronto bangers are fools that watch too much BET or listen to too much Bounty Killah. Most of the so called bloods and crips are 12-18 years old. The only visible ones doing a lot over in Toronto are the older Jamaican guys, and they don't give a fuck about bloods and crips. They are usually illegal immigrants and get deported when they get caught. They usually grew up in the harsh Jamaican streets, so they tend to be WAY more hard core then the watered down, teenaged, brainwashed, wannabe thug, television fanatics that grew up in Toronto watching too much Belly, and Colors. Even the drug dealers who have any sense at all, know that you can't get by in Canada by only doing "gangsta $h!t" LOL. So they hold down jobs, and sell a little dope on the side.

There's no excuse at all to be in a gang in Toronto. Just pure STUPIDITY. I doubt Bloods and Crips have any history that predates the early 90's, and most of the guys who are claiming it are either, foreign born (Jamaica, Trinidad or Guyana usually), or Canadian white boys. Seriously, the worst neighborhoods in TO, are nothing like the worst neighborhoods in America. Even the MTHA gets taken care of for the most part, and unlike in America, there is rarely any segagration between race and class, unless you're talking about the suburbs. There could be a building with 2 bedroom apartments going for $1000 a month and up, right accross the street from an MTHA housing project. LOL. And even in the worst projects in Toronto, it will never be all black, or all hispanic. You'll find white people, black people, asian people, east indian people, everything, and they're well balanced off in most cases. I don't know a lot about hispanic gangs there, I never seen any. But the bloods and crips in Toronto are WAY overhyped mostly by little teenagers who want their city to be on the "gangbanging map" LOL. Dumb motha fuckas standing on corners modelling baggy designer clothes, killing eachother over shit that they seen on TV and heard in music. Pathetic, and for the most part like I said, they're mostly immigrants. LOL, they just threw away their west indian culture, and adopted this shit. LOL, too much sellout, MTV style gangsta rap rotting their brains.

And this is not something I heard, this is something I seen. I lived in Toronto for almost 5 years. Moved to TO from Queens, and witnessed alot of the stupidity going on with the Jamaican youths.

[yeenigga]

Finally, someone understands!!!.. I live in Watts, but right now i'm Canada spending some time down here with family and some friends. Alot of shit like that going on. I'm Jamaican myself. People down here are SOOOO INFLUENCED by the Jamaicans. Everyone trying to talk like them also. There no where in Toronto will you ever find an ALL BLACK or HISPANIC area. For example, you can be in an Area that's mostly black people but there would be a couple of white, Indian, or whatever race. Toronto is very multicultured. For the part about about Bloods and Crips.. These fools don't know nothing. Even white boys be walking with rags and shit. Everyone does. One time I saw this white boy in a station that had 7 rags on his pants along with one on his head. And if they act like they a crip, you walk up to them and ask them "What's your set?" They don't even know what you are talking about, they be like "What you mean?" Some might know. Most don't know. Some guys down here would act hard though, they'll probably ask you to take off your rag, but they most likely would not kill you, the most they would do is beat you down, or probably even stab. Most guys be like "I'm a crip" but they ain't running with a set. They just call themself one. Alot of messed up shit.

Don't think the "Gang bangin'" down here is real. It ain't real. Compared to Watts, naw, shit is so different down here, I was surprised and even at one point wanted to go back to Watts cause I rather see some real gangstas then these fake dumb ones. I prefer niggas that keep shit real. Ain't no one Gang banging down here. Get that straight. here are some gangs though that do dirt, but they ain't no bloods and crips. Also there are some stupid crimes that go on here, but then again, most parts of the world have crimes that go on. But no gang banging bloods and crips shit. No.

Swordswinging, ever go to Jamaica? Average 3 homicides each day. The Jamaicans that do crazy ass shit are the ones that did crazy shit back in Jamaica and came here to flee. Jamaica is a deadly place.. not all parts, but most. That's why they be so hard headed. Most of them are coming to Canada, Toronto, don't know why.

Hope that shit clears some stuff up.
PS. I Swordswinging, I loved how you put it down home boy. But I just didn't like the part where you said alot of stupidity being down by the Jamaican youths.

Oh and one more thing. The niggas down here sometimes claim they OG's.. LOLOL, that is the shit that makes me laugh the most.... The niggas that be saying that shit aren't even 30 yet. Or even 25.

[yeenigga]

Oh, "Down" meant to say "done"
The Older Jamaican guys, they don't give puck about Bloods and Crips. You said it yourself home boy. And yes, it only be the older Jamaicans that be doing shit.

Sorry if I swore. I don't remember the rules on this board.

[zzzz]

Swordswinging, ever go to Jamaica? Average 3 homicides each day. The Jamaicans that do crazy ass stuff are the ones that did crazy stuff back in Jamaica and came here to flee. Jamaica is a deadly place.. not all parts, but most. That's why they be so hard headed. Most of them are coming to Canada, Toronto, don't know why.

Oh yes. Of course I know what goes on in Jamaica. I am Jamaican. Born in Kingston (Woodford Park), and if you know what's going on there right now...Woodford Park aint nuttin' nice. Although it was much better when I was younger as far as gangs and drugs, but times were always tough, since that's a very poor part of Kingston.

PS. I Swordswinging, I loved how you put it down home boy. But I just didn't like the part where you said alot of stupidity being down by the Jamaican youths.

When I said that, I didn't mean that all Jamaican youths in TO are up to no good. I meant the ones that were letting their schooling pass them by to go become bloods and crips. They're the ones doing BS! (But don't even let me get started on the white bloods/crips there ). I have nothing but love for the ones who have their heads on straight and are looking to better themselves in life by getting an education. Seriously, why do you think we Jamaicans migrate to countries like USA, Canada, and England? To get away from the social ills that have been plaguing our country for a long time now. Not to become crips, and the fact that they're in Canada throwing their lives away to imitate something that originated in the States, that makes it even more patthetic.

[Hyp Notica]

someone told me i dont know my canadian immigrant history... you is wrong boy! what i said is true. how ya gonna doubt me and not have a better answer. i lived in canaduh 19 years, and still come every summer for 4 mths, so i keep up on the ongoings of mt-real montreal. dunno why u said i live a sheltered life, just because i said canada is a victim waiting to happen. i said that because fraud and robbery is so easy there!! its like no one expects it. i said people be walkin around with rich toys like cameras, discmans, wallets in back pockets.. all little sparkly stuff with no fear, making a perfect target for opportunistic criminals. its so easy to break in anywhere, and convenience store owners dont have guns under the counter, most banks and grocery stores do not have security guards. go to houston and find a shop that money runs through it that doesn{t have a security guard with an automatic! or to New Orleans and find a gas station that doesant have a slto to slide your moeny through bullet proof glass. thats why i said victim waiting to happen.. just general unpreparedness for unexpected criminal activity, because the rates arent that high yet, although currently on teh rise!

theres this big debate on whos keepin it real and if these are real bloods n crips, MES and 18 street gangs ect in canaduh. whats the thermometer of what makes it real? how violent they act towards each other? cuz that what it looks like yall grading it on. the problem to me is that people wanna claim a set so bad, wanna have an identity, that they out to PROVE something. and acting on an image IS DANGEROUS, cuz when u got something to prove, you act even more foolish with yer pride.

jah-FAKE-ans, IS a big problem. jamaican gansgtah culture is so glamorized, being the most notorious english carribbean culture represented in canaduh, and i think in Toronto the largest black minority.. many people without even jamaican roots "develop" the accent. i dont like that. in montreal the largest ethnic minority overall is Haitian, so in montreal you have other french-speaking immigrant or 1st generation canadian blacks (of african origin or french carribbean other than Haitian), who "develop" the Haitian accent. that{s the same thing as the Jah-FAKE-ans but Haitain style imitators. I really don{t like that SHHHTT.

someaone else said people come to canada and leave their carribbean heritage behind. im in central america on the carribbean coast right now, in a black community next to the jungle, and Bloods and Crips are alive and well. How real are they? how do u judge???? they use violence against each other based on gang affiliation. Does that make them REAL???

[schme]

like I said caine,there are tones of people who THINK they have real gang affilitions with the bloods and crips.Now, some of those mock gangs do get serious,hell, The birminham bank street crips smoked a guy right near my house a weak ago, but there NOT ACTULLY REAL G*DAM* crips! Come on caine, didn't you hear about the L.A (real) blood vacationing in Canada?He was so pissed that gangs that had never actually met any bloods stole his gangs name and rep,he killed three of those posers.(One in toronto, one in Ottawa, one in Montreal.) Listens, I know you know guys who think there crips, bloods or whatever, and i'm sure there in some pretty heavy stuff, but come on, they stole the name and you're gonna have to face it.And caine, if you or anyone else is insulted by anything I wrote, I'm sorry, but I can't help if you're pissed about something that wasn't even meant as an insult.Come on.By the way, just because you talk the lingo doesn't mean you have to write it.I talk it to but,come on you can't decipher it in writting.Guys who write in gangsta lingo are just desperate for a rep as a gangsta.Anyway, thats my two sense for now.Sorry about the huge post before,I was wathcing this documentry on Fidel Castro and it was really long and there were tones of commercials so I just kept going.I'm sorta surprised you read all my posts caine,thanks for giving me the time of day.I appreciate it.No bad blood, eh?Okay..........Well, anyhow..............................Heres a happy face.

[Anonymous20]

really though, how come crips or bloods never opened chapters with the same organisation skills of the HAs. HAs started off in san b from what i read in another post but opened up chapters worldwide. how come crips or bloods never did that shit n hate on other gangs takin their gangs name. its weird, anybody have any ideas on that from the inside? is it coz its too unorganized to do that?

[Hyp Notica]

YEAH%% i like what yall said bout stealin gangs names. here's the deal. folx i be askin just say// cause we all one blood, ya know?
next man tell me --- blues the color of the black man from slavery days. ive heard a gang a shhhht from all kindsa folx bout reazonz fer joinin a gang, n this n that ... n this from bloodshed-like folx tryin ta ..KEEP IT REAL> so we got a war on our hands. plant some trees. paz

[schme]

Thanks for the compliment Hyp Notica.Really.I mean it.Its hard to tell expressinon on the net...................

[schme]

By the way, there are no real bloods/crips in Canada, but there are Triads.Someone my dad was dating a couple years back actually prosecuted some Triads here for a gang killing.Anyway,just thought I'd add it.

[Hyp Notica]

Dear scheme. thats exactly what im talkin about. what makes them REAL? just cause they killed someaone bassed on gang affiliation? yesterday, here where im at right now in carribbean coast guatemala, front of my face, some people burned a guys tshit and beat him up cuz he was waering red in a hood that claims rolling 30s cirp. all are tattooed with this 4 life. they told him not 2 come back to this barrio in that color. so what does that mean? if they killed him would that b real enuf 4 u?

what makes them REAL yall... thats a debate in itself. peace.

PS: the newspaper came out yesterday here, some gov. statistic said nationwide theres been 853 killings by firearms in the first 3 months of this year alone. almost 2 thousand injuries by firearms.. ect ect.
guate is violent yo.

[Brown-Life]

theres no Crips or Bloods in the west coast part of Canada. Not sure about east though. Canada has more Mafia's like the Italians, Russian etc.
There's a street in Vancouver Bc that has alot of Gang members and Alot ( A looot) of drug dealers. :S

[zzzz]

Dear scheme. thats exactly what im talkin about. what makes them REAL?

Uh, maybe being in Los Angeles County? That's a good place to start. Actually being part of a Los Angeles County gang that is known and documented as blood/crip by the Los Angeles Police Department and/or any other kind of law enforcement?? Those are probably the realest you will find. Since Los Angeles is the birthplace to the first blood and crip sets.

I know some people will say something like "One of the LA gang members came to our city and started crips and bloods here". So fuckin what! You and other people all over the damn world are saying the same things. So you know the majority of them are talking $h!t. They make it sound as if LA gangsters are a bunch of vagabonds. Bloods and Crips have pretty much embedded itself in southern California street culture. That's where it began, and that's where it belongs. The B's and C's in LA made history with eachother, so they have a never ending cycle of violence. But seriously, how does someone in Canada, or anywhere else for that matter, get up one day, call themself a blood/crip and go imitate a battle that started thousands of miles away from them. LOL. Stupidity! That's like a bunch of fools in Europe naming themselves after 2 African tribes and start going at it with eachother, because some guy from Africa visited one of them and told them about the way tribal warfare was. You would laugh like crazy if you heard something like that. But that's exactly what these fake B's and C's are doing. Stupid.

You might as well say, a white person born in Canada, can be considered a real Jamaican, because his friend from Jamaica gave him a plate of oxtail and rice/peas and let him watch Dancehall Queen.

[schme]

Ya, thats my point.Sure they do stuff normal gangs do or whatever and they call themselves Bloods/crips but there not.They do crimes, but it doesn't make'um real.(thanks for backing me up swsw).But the thing is, There are real Triads in Canada.There not real cus they kill people or are in drugs and prostitution, there real because there set up AND RUN by the leaders in China.Thus making them real.(Most of the members were members before coming to Canada, or their father,brother,cousin was.)

You get what I mean,or am I not clear enough?I have trouble getting my message across sometimes,so if I've confused you please ask me to elaborate (YAHH!!! I CAN USE BIG WORDS!!!!!

[Guest]

U people r fools , have any of u'zz ever commited a crime , grew up in a bad part of the city in wich u live , have ya'll burried any friends b4 they reached the age of 20 , have u ever been 2 jail , ever sold or used dope ?? probably not , this is a great debate , but it seems real ovious that the people that r sayin they're not real bloods or crips , r biased suburban peccerwoods who don't like the gangster lifestyle , period . If people r claimin crip , or claimin blood & r killin & gettin killed over it , I think it is a safe assumption 2 qualify them as REAL. What about the HA's they not from Canada , but the quebec chapters r the most violent in the world , & we're makin headlines all over the world . They all had ties to the one's back in California , so what if the people that claim blood or crip , have ties , example , were started by members from LA , why r the HA's REAL & b's & C'zz not ??

[Guest]

Scheme I got a question , when did the incident occur with that gblood who smoked people in t-o , ottawa & montreal , is there anywhere where I can get the story ??

[zzzz]

U people r fools , have any of u'zz ever commited a crime , grew up in a bad part of the city in wich u live , have ya'll burried any friends b4 they reached the age of 20 , have u ever been 2 jail , ever sold or used dope ?? probably not , this is a great debate , but it seems real ovious that the people that r sayin they're not real bloods or crips , r biased suburban peccerwoods who don't like the gangster lifestyle , period . If people r claimin crip , or claimin blood & r killin & gettin killed over it , I think it is a safe assumption 2 qualify them as REAL.

LOL! Apparently it aint obvious enough. Sorry, I'm no peccerwood I'm a black Jamaican. Sorry if my posts aren't flooded with stereotypical "bumbo-claughts" and illiteracy. You however, are a FAKE crip. You are NOT an Angeleno, or even anywhere near southern california. You are in Canada. You imitated something you seen on TV, heard on rap music, or just did it because some other imitators in your neighborhood were doing it. Montreal? Anybody in Montreal who take part in bloods and crips wars are knock offs, plain and simple. LOL! Come on now....Montreal?? You would get laughed out of the neighborhood by fake crips world wide. LOL!

You need to C your way to a dictionary and learn how to spell words properly. Then maybe you can C your way through college, and then C your way to getting a good job and cutting out all that bull$h!t you're doing.

[Guest]

fassy , rain a fall breeze a blo , chiccen batti outta do !! WHAT THE FUCC DO U KNOW U FUCCIN LAME , & WHEN DID I SAY I WAS A CRIP , WHAT U MAKIN ASSUMPTIONS NOW , JUST CUZZ I PUT THAT BLUE BIZNESS AS MY SIGNATURE , YOUR IMAGINATION STARTS 2 RUN ASTRAY & 4 YOUR INFORMATION , 4 A 9TH GRADE DROP-OUT MY SPELLING IS JUST FINE , NOT 2 MENTION I WENT 2 FRENCH SCHOOL ALL MY LIFE , PLUS I READ WRITE & SPEAK 3 LANGUAGES , HOW MANY DO U RASSHOLE ??

[Guest]

WHAT THE FUCC DOES ,"" U WOULD GET LAUGHED OUTTA THE NEIGHBOURHOOD BY FAKE CRIPS WORLDWIDE "" SUPPOSE TO FUCCIN MEAN NUMNUTS ??

[zzzz]

LOLOL. Now that I pull your bitch card, you try to back out now.

U people r fools,...............but it seems real ovious that the people that r sayin they're not real bloods or crips , r biased suburban peccerwoods who don't like the gangster lifestyle , period.

You come in here trying to call everybody fools, with your fake "ghetto" typing and using letters to replace whole words. Not only that, but you call everybody a "peccerwood"? LOL! It also seems pretty obvious, that anyone who is trying to claim crips and bloods in Canada are real, are biased dumb little kids infatuated with "gangsta" fantasy. Stay off the MTV $h!t Pop, your brain cells will live longer.

4 YOUR INFORMATION , 4 A 9TH GRADE DROP-OUT MY SPELLING IS JUST FINE , NOT 2 MENTION I WENT 2 FRENCH SCHOOL ALL MY LIFE , PLUS I READ WRITE & SPEAK 3 LANGUAGES, HOW MANY DO U RASSHOLE ??

Fool's trying to get mad because I gave him some good advice.. A 9th grade dropout?? Damn, that means you stopped going to school when you were what... 14/15?. Fool I'll tell you AGAIN. C your ass back to class. That's the last time I'm gonna tell you too. So you can come back on the net and crip-crip-crip til ya' drop, net bang and double cc all you want. It aint doing your dumbass any fuccin good.

[schme]

sorry guest, I'd have to ask my cousin, he was telling me about it.You MIGHT be able to find it in the CBC archives.Try it you never know.

I'd like to correct something I wrote a while ago, I think on page one.See, sometimes I think I know what a word means and end up confusing myself.I don't live in a suburb,I live in the inner city,sorta near "centreville".I don't know how you say that in english.

Anyway, it was sorta goin around on the street, guest, so It could be hard to find, but it should be somewhere.Try CBC. There it should be.Somewhere, hidden within the vast ever growing archive..................