Compton Varrio Tortilla Flats

[stickupkidakaBIGBANDIT]

A MArtinez whats' s your YA NUmber? My number is 66058 I got locked up in late '94. What hood you from homeboy good to see another YA alumin in here. Is there a N/S Primera Flats in SFV?? And is that why they beef w/ Pacoima Flats?

[Lonewolf]

. Is there a N/S Primera Flats in SFV?? And is that why they beef w/ Pacoima Flats?

That's a negative Big Bandit, there's no Primera Flats up in the 818 Valle. Back in mid to late 70's, there was some real beef going on with WSXV3ST, it spilled over to wherever they schooled together, in this case up in the valley where a lot of the "FLIPS" from the East Side were bused in. WSXV3ST held the numbers, but The Flips handled themselves well, the people from Varrio San Fer also had pedo with 18ST but kept it cool with Primera Flats and they had a truce going. Then Pacoima Flats comes around and starts crossing out San Fer in the schools and areas of the truce, and from one of these crossing out some pedo started with the belief that it was PF Primera that was doing it, this all got cleared away between San Fer and Primera Flats, however The Flips started going down to Pacas Flats and banged on them. That's how the beef between Primera and Pacas started, at least the part that I was partially witness to.

[stickupkidakaBIGBANDIT]

So, is Primera Flats geographically close to SAN FERN VALLE, because I thought they were farm from eachother?? I never been to those parts of SFV or really East LOS, well only to MAravilla at KING TACO, and I'm lucky I didn't get man handled, but that's another story. How many miles is PRimera Flats from SFV?

[Lonewolf]

So, is Primera Flats geographically close to SAN FERN VALLE, because I thought they were farm from eachother?? I never been to those parts of SFV or really East LOS, well only to MAravilla at KING TACO, and I'm lucky I didn't get man handled, but that's another story. How many miles is PRimera Flats from SFV?

Negative on that also homie, E x S Primera Flats is in Boyle Heights - East Los, and Pacoima Flats and San Fer in the northermost part of the San Fernando Valley, like you said quite a distance from each other, kind of like if you took a ride from La Jolla to TJ, but both gangs ride far and wide to back up their people. The thing was that both areas are part of the City of Los Angeles, and had the same school district, and under those type of programs in which you send your youngsters by bus to "better schools" to try to get them out of the local caos, that's how Primera Flats and a lot of other Varrios including my boys ended up in the 818 Valle.

[bgcasper]

snoopy from cvtf got killed

[MARTINEZ.]

bgCASPER.

ORALE HOMIE. Mis respetos bgCASPER.

QUESTION HOMIE ?
DOES C.V.T.F. STILL ONLY HAVE ONE CLICA - MIDGET DUKES ?

EVERYONE IN L.A. KNOWS THE CPT. FLATS ARE DEEP & ARE MADD RIDERS & HONESTLY IT WAS ALWAYS A BIT STRANGE TO ME THAT SUCH A BIG VARRIO WOULD ONLY HAVE 1 CLICK. BACK IN 89-93 WHEN I DID TIME WITH THEM VATOS, THEY TOLD ME THEIR O.G.s and their little homies were ALL midget dukes .... i thought it strange at the time.

but HONESTLY i can see that their O.G.'s were very wise homie, when the whole varrio claims just one click, there's no internal strive, competition, jealousy, hating, etc..etc...IN MY VIEW, THAT'S VERY FIRME.

I think we all know that there are big varrios (i.e. FLORENICA 13, that the clicks at one time were riding vs. each other) and have had MUCH INTERAL BEEF, but C.V.T.F to the best of my knowledge - only had one big clica MDKS...
Is that still the case ?
ORALE.
MARTINEZ

P.S. up till 1993 "EL MONTE FLORES" also a the biggest varrio in the SGV-only had one big clica for all the vatos.

[bgcasper]

HOMIE IM NOT A CHICANO GANG SPECIALIST BUT THIS HOOD IS INSIDE OF MY CITY AND THEY HAD MORE THAN MIDGET DUKES WHO I AGREE WAS the MAINCLIKA WHO DID PUT IN WORK I REMEMBER VATOS FROM CV TF MALDITOS THEY WERE MEETING EVERY SUNDAY AT GONZALES PARQUE BUT TRUE ALSO THEY DISSAPEARED QUIK ...BUT TRUE THAT THE MIDGET DUKES IT WHAT WE ALL HEARD OF ...ALSO I WAS WONDERIN ABOUT CV LOCOS THEY ARE CONTROLIN TORTILLA FLAT ORIGINAL BLOCS IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY BROKE OFF WE KNOW THAT THE MAJOR FUED RITE NOW IS THE CVLS VS CVTF BUT IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE CVLS BROKE OFF TF ??? I WAS WONDERIN' IM FAR FROM AN HISTORIAN AND MY KNOWLEDGE IS LIMITED TO WHAT I SAW ON THOSE COMPTON STREETS ALSO THE CVSEGUNDO ACORDIN TO AN OG FROM TF GOT STARTED BY SOME VATOS FROM THE FLAT WHEN THEY HAD THAT BIG WAR AGAINST DOG PATCH THAT ALSO IS NOTHING SURE SINCE THE CVS AND THE FLAT ARE BEEFIN' RITE NOW WELL RITE NOW THE FLAT BEEF WITH ALL COMPTON THEY COULD SAY COMPTON KILLAZ

[bgcasper]

ALSO THE CLICC I WAS TALKIN ABOUT WAS ACTIVE AROUND 94 ...

[MARTINEZ.]

ORALE bgCASPER,

I REMEMBER I SEEN CV TF @ THE "TACOS EL UNICO" ON ROSECRANS & ATLANTIC SEVERAL TIMES- DEEP, AT LEAST 40 DEEP...
I WENT UP TO THEM, (VERY FIRME OF COURSE) & INTRODUCE MYSELF & ASKED ABOUT THEIR HOMIES I DID TIME WITH.... THIS WAS LIKE 95 OR 96 THEY WERE FIRME... THE LOTT 13 SURENOS is cool with all Compton Varrios....were in East Los and Tortilla Flats is originally an East Los n'hood....Theyre the ones that told me that...

THEN I SEEN THEM A FEW YEARS LATER ON FOX 11 NEWS, BIGGER & BADDER THAN EVER, IT WAS A SPECIAL ON JUST THEM, & HOW THEY WERE GOING AT WITH EVERYBODY, ALL OTHER CV's, CRIPS, BLOODS, Everybody, ...I even seen that special on Lil Chucky and someother lil vato from CVTF and where they were 10 years later....STRAIGHT MADDNESS homie. My respects to the C.V. TXFLATS, but they got too many enemies, they might of bit of a lil bit than they can chew....

Did you see the string about LOCOS 13 under SURENOS ?
I added my little 5 cents, and to the best of my knowledge ALL LOCOS 13 Gangs originated outta of the O.G. WEST LOS "LOCOS 13...But if the vato's info is accurate on that string, (I can vouch for most of his list) that would make LOCOS 13 the fastest growing CHICANO Gang in L.A.
more than KAM 13, more than anybody...

ORALE.
MARTINEZ
I'VE SEEN THEIR PLACASO IN WATTS & MANY OTHER PARTS OF L.A.

[bgcasper]

ACTUALY WE HAVE 2 LOCOS GANG IN COMPTON WE HAVE THE CV LOCOS 13 AND ALSO THE CV VATOS LOCOS NO ITS NOT A JOKE LOLOL LIKE IN THE MOVIE , WE ALSO DO HAVE A CV KAM ST ITS NEXT TO MY HOOD IN CVTG AREA WELL ACTUALY IN NHCC AREA ....MY QUESTION IS HOW THE FUCC THOSE CV LOCOS CAME UP IN TF OLD blocks IS IT CAUSE THEY DO GET ALONG WITH FRUIT TOWN AND FRUIT TOWN WAS SHARING blocks WITH T FLAT SO DO TTP AND PALMER EVEN SANTANA , THEY WOULD GIVE LOCOS A PASS AND A HAND IN THEIR WAR VS TF .... I KNEW A COUPLE OF VATOS FROM TE FLAT A LOT OF THEM DIED DID U KNEW ROCKY AND SPANKY THEY WAS RESPECTED back THEN ... ANYWAY PEACE

[bgcasper]

ALSO SEEMS THERE IS MORE THAN ONE CV WHO HAVE ROOTS UP WEST L.A WHAT ABOUT CV OFA ARE THEY A CLICK OF THE OFA GANG AND WHAT ABOUT CV LARGO 36 I HEARD THAT U HAVE A LARGO 36 ELSE WERE ....ALSO BARIO 13 WHY THE FUCC TEY REFUSE TO CLAIM CV ??? AND I SAW 5 HILLS TAGS ALL OVER IMPERIAL IN WATTS THAT HOOD IS A DOWN TOWN SET ????

[MARTINEZ.]

bgCASPER,

ORALE HOMIE, To the best of my knowledge C.V.LARGO 36 is one of the first COMPTON VARRIOS, along with CV3, CV70's, CVTF, CV155, CV-WILLOW St.

I know of No other Largo's unless they are a transplant of Compton L36.

These are the newer varrios in Compton who even though are new, have made a name for themselves.
CV CHICANO GANG
CV TOKERS
CV LOCOS 13
Compton Barrio Pobre, I did time with 2 vatos from there and they straight up claimed Compton, Not the Long Beach Pobre....

Those 2 vatos from TF, no homie I did not know them, the only ones I knew where the ones I did time with in y.a. 89-93,

Orale, and I've also seen them 5 & HILL placasos in Watts down Imperial, but my personal take on it, it's probably just one vato, who likes to hit up all over....but I doubt, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF 5& HILL in WATTS ????

ORALE HOMIE.
MARTINEZ.

[bgcasper]

ORALE MRTINEZ GOT A LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOUR POST AND THEY ARE WITH GIBBYS THE REALEST ONLINE POST

ALSO A VARRIO THAT IS MAKIN MUCH NOISE IN COMPTON AND DO HOLD BIG GROUND WITH MANY CLICCAS IS THE CV TINY GANGSTA IF U FROM MY PART OF TOWN THEY PRETTY DEEP AND DO GET ALONG WITH THE NIGGAZ WHO ARE SHARING THEIR HOOD WITH THEM THEY ARE ON NHCC KPCC ADCC GROUND AND HAVE MANY CLIKAS LOS PALMAS AND THE INFAMOUS LOS ASSASINOS ALSO THE YOUNGSTAZ ALSO THEY ARE BEEFIN' WITH THE TOKEROS WHO ARE A SMALLER GANG WHO RESIDE MOSTLY INSIDE OF SSCC BOUNDARYS AND DONT WANT NO PEDO WITH THE BIG BAD DIRTY SOUTH ...

ALSO THE CV70 LATELY BE EXPANDING BY JUMPIN YOUNG TAGGERS CLIK INTO THEIR SHIT I HEARD MSK AND DTK ARE ALREADY PART OF THE BIG SETENTAS I WAS WONDERING IF THE RUMOURS OF THEM CLIKIN UP WITH CV155 IS REAL ???
I DOUPT IT WOULD LAST LONG BUT TRU THEY HAVE A GANG OF ENEMIGAS IN COMON .

ALSO I WAS SEEIN A GANG OF TAGGIN CREW CLAIMIN CV I DONT KNOW IF THEY ARE LEGIT AND WONDER IF THE BIG GUYS FROM THE BIG ORGANISATION HAVE A REAL CONTROL OF WHO CAN CLAIM 13 AND WHO CANT CAUSE HOODS LIKE CV BKM BLOOD KILLING MAFIA OR CV OFA OR CV M4L ARE FAR FROM MEETING THE STANDARTS OF REAL SURENOS ALSO KAM ST HAVE A VERY LIL CLIKA INSIDE OF CVTG HOOD DID U KNEW IT ?

FOR CV POBRE I SAW LBP IS IT LYNWOOD BARRIO POBRE CAUSE THAT AREA U DESCRIBE IS FEW blocks AWAY FROM LYWOOD

[bgcasper]

ALSO ABOUT THAT 5 HILL IN WATTS .....I SAW THE CYCOS 13 AROUND THE SAME AREA CROSSIN THE 5HILLS ...WHO THE FUCC ARE THE CYCOS AND THE 5 HILLS AND WERE ARE THEY ????

[MARTINEZ]

SIMON bgCASPER,

5&HILL IS RIGHT IN DOWNTOWN L.A. RIGHT 5TH ST. MEETS HILL ST.
THEY'RE A LIL OLD BUT HAVE ALWAYS, ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN AS A PAISA VARRIO, (No dis intended) There are some paisas that are straight FOOLS....

What's a trip is I don't think they hold down their original st.s but I see their placasos all over L.A., in Watts, etc....

ORALE.
MARTINEZ

[Lonewolf]

I spent almost 3 decades in the Harbor Area and I have never known where is Cycos 13 located at. I have only heard of them from 3rd hand, never met anyone from it. Anybody has any facts about them ?, As to Cinco Lomas, a lot of them Locos are down here in TiJuas along with many others from Third Street, tecatos most of them.

[MARTINEZ.]

LONEWOLF / bgCASPER,

MY POINT IS PROVEN, MANY OL' PAISA TECATOS FROM 5TH & HILL & 3RD ST. ARE DOWN IN T.J. -- THOSE 2 VARRIOS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN ON MY SIDE (EAST LOS) AS "MOSTLY PAISAS" gang...
varrio 3RD ST. USED TO HOLD THEIR OWN BACK IN THE DAY...MY OL' CELLIE FROM E.S. SOTO ST. TOLD ME ALL 'ABOUT THEM VATOS....

AS FOR CYCOS HOMIE, I BELIEVE THERE IS A "CYCOS 13" GANG IN GARDENA...NOT TOO BIG. Firme vato from Gardena 13 told me about them dudes in the county jail...
THESE VATOS ARE NOT TO BE MISTAKEN FOR THE W/S CRAZIES in WEST LOS. I THINK THEY BOTH HIT UP "CX3" ?? anybody WEST LOS in the house ?...
also CUDAHY X3 hits up CX3....

ORALE.
MARTINEZ

[Lonewolf]

Orale Señor Martinez, I should be embarrassed since I lived in Gardena for a whole 1 year lease on Lemoli and never knew about Cycos 13 being in the area, shame on me holmes. Gracias for the info'. On a different take, you gotta break down down the whole deal about West Side Locos, West Side Crazies, Varrio Westside Loco, you're good in breaking down this info' that is confusing to many.

[MARTINEZ.]

GRACIAS LONE-WOLF,

IT'S A PLEASURE CUTTING IT UP WITH THE LIKES OF YOURSELF, GIBBY, bgCASPER, etc...
What happened to that vato MANGLER from 60's? HE HAD SOME GOOD STUFF ON WEST SIDE & SOUTH CENTRAL L.A. gangs.

MIS RESPETOS TO YOU ALL.
ORALE.
MARTINEZ

[Anonymous20]

I posted a few pics on the Tortilla Flats page at:

http://www.streetgangs.com/hispanic/tortillaflats.html


That infamous "fuckc niggers" can be seen on the wall in the creek.

[lb516]

WELL FRIDAY I WAS PASS BY THEIR E/S HOOD AND ALL AROUND IT IT HAD CV T-FLATS CROSSED AND THE ELM ST. HIT THEY HOOD UP AND PUT W.K. AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT IS SO IM NOT GOIN TO SAY IT BUT IT WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

i was in elm st hood and t-flats hit there whole hood up. from mayo to sante fe

[Anonymous20]

So these TFLAT vatos haten everyone out there cept Tollerance if thats what im readin right? And that they ride hard and deep in CPT to the point where no Bloods or Crips are tryn to run em out but deff. gettn raged by the taggn.

[Anonymous20]

TORRANCE i mean

[Y.G.]

T-FLATS GET FOOLS ON THERE ASS AND THATS ONE OF THE REASON THEY TRYIN TO BE COOL WITH LUEDERS PARK A BIG BRAZY HOOD.

[mr 503]

THATS A TRIP CVTF IS A CRAZY ASS HOOD. BUT MY HOMIE FROM THE 70 TALKS BAD ABOUT THEM.. BUT THERE IS EVEN CVTF IN PORTLAND UP HERE.. AND THERE IS CVS. AND UP HERE THEY GET ALONG AND BEEF WITH 18ST. I TOLD MY HOMIE FROM THE CV70 ABOUT THAT LAST TIME IWAS IN LA ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND HE WAS TRIPPIN OUT.

[Lonewolf]

FOR CV POBRE I SAW LBP IS IT LYNWOOD BARRIO POBRE CAUSE THAT AREA U DESCRIBE IS FEW blocks AWAY FROM LYWOOD

I'm all ears on this one Homies, CVP Compton Varrio Pobres, LBP Lynwood Barrio Pobres, BP13 Barrio Pobre Long Beach, BP13 Barrio Pobre Carson, Pobres a clique that broke off South Los ????? Nothing but questions, can anyone put it together as to their history, are they the same or not ?????

[MEXICAN_RAZA_PRIDE831]

I HEARD the TORTILLEROS GOT BUSINESS RELATIONS with the NELLAS THO...

[victor1]

DOES THE CVTF HAS BEEF WITH THE CV LARGO36?

[RuthlessCray]

DOES THE CVTF HAS BEEF WITH THE CV LARGO36?

yeah

[victor1]

how big is the cv largo36? I know they don't get along with the Mona park crips and cvtf do you know who else they don't get along with?

[RuthlessCray]

im not the compton expert here but they have alot of enemies. one being CVLOCOS13 and another CV124st. also heard they dont like CVTOKERS13.

[Curious15]

Does Anyone know when the TF13 started beefing with all the black gangs in compton? And Why they HATE BLACK people so much I mean what is the reason for this extreme racism.