Interracial Dating or Marriage

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby buck » August 15th, 2004, 1:03 pm

lol ok my fault.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby BABY_LOCS » August 15th, 2004, 1:07 pm

ITS OK I CAN SEE WHY YOU GOT CONFUSED
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Storm » August 16th, 2004, 12:45 am

Michelledope wrote:
Common Sense wrote:Well that's kool Michelledope. What other races have you dated?

When I was in London 3 weeks ago.. there were so many different types of ethnic groups that's not so common in California. Is there much mixing in the U.K.?

I saw a few African nationals with English women.


One of my boyfriend's was half filipina and half italian and black or mixed black. My parents are fine with this, infact, it's not an issue. I don't believe I would ever choose a partner with a primary consideration being their racial/ethnic background. Ridiculous. If you're not compatible with the person you're with, there is very little point putting in the effort regardless of who they are.

Common Sense wrote:When I was in London 3 weeks ago.. there were so many different types of ethnic groups that's not so common in California. Is there much mixing in the U.K.?


North London is the most concentrated area, particularly North London, it is very ethnicly diverse compared to the outer city. The more urban the area the more interracial relationships ofocurse (goes without saying). All the white woman I know with kids from mixed ethnicity are from places like Hackney (hehe) I'm not too sure in the rise of asian/interracial relationships, although I know it is more common among asian woman, or so I've seen. :?

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To throw my 2 cents/3 pence in.

Common - when you say asian - it depends if you're meaning Indian and Pakistani women - who very rarely date outside their colour lines (look up 'honour killings' on the 'net and you'll come up with what some families will do if they do), or 'asian' as in Thai,Japanese, Malay,Chinese etc where 'interracial' dating/marriage isn't unusual, possibly because the UK doesn't have many places other than the larger cities like London and Manchester with large concentrations of asian people. Also being an older country in some ways (and unfortunately only in some) we're a little more integrated than the US. This may also though have something to do with the old colonial mindset - where aisan people were looked at as 'exotic' and black people as 'savages' (I'm not condoning the view - just speculating).

I work in London and live 'out of town' and have to travel a lot for my work (very polite way of saying I get around I guess ) and interracial dating and marriage is getting a lot more common out of London - I think especially in the UK people are getting more used to it - though I know of a couple of extreme reactions ( one of my adopted brother's has been with his white G/f -now wife- for over 8 years but they still get the comments every so often).

I am white, my parents have never had a problem with me dating outside 'colour lines' at the end of the day as Michelle said if you're compatible with someone skin tone doesn't come into it......and no before anyone says it I'm not a minger/huffamoose either!

Fistfull - what you will 'put up with' from a guy tends to depend on how much you value yourself, I dont #think# that has anything to do with skin colour - but I could be wrong. Do white girls have lower self esteem ? - now there's a whole new line of thought.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 16th, 2004, 8:08 am

Storm:

That's exactly what I was referring to Asians of Indian and Pakistan descent. That's why I was so fascinated. The further out of London the less I saw it, except for Coventry for some reason. Then again, it could have been because I just wasn't around at the right time.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Storm » August 18th, 2004, 3:44 am

Common Sense wrote:Storm:

That's exactly what I was referring to Asians of Indian and Pakistan descent. That's why I was so fascinated. The further out of London the less I saw it, except for Coventry for some reason. Then again, it could have been because I just wasn't around at the right time.


I think it seems to depend where you go, the attitudes of the community and also how strict the family is ( which is often linked into the attitudes of the community) - I have family from the North of England and have seen it in Bradford, Manchester and Newcastle and in parts of London - but as well there seems to be a line drawn by religion ( I stress this is generalisation) in that those Asians in in interracial relationships tend to be from Sikh and Hindu families rather than from Muslim ones.

General question - If you wont consider a relationship purely on racial grounds - is this racist?

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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby George » August 18th, 2004, 7:55 am

I've seen a Vietnamese dude with a Black female once when i was in Toronto. It was cool but very different cuz in Canada you don't see that stuff too much.

In Southern California its different though, i've seen at least 6 Oriental guys dating Black females. 2 of them are married to those females now.

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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 18th, 2004, 11:41 am

Storm wrote:General question - If you wont consider a relationship purely on racial grounds - is this racist?


I don't understand what you are asking?????
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby BABY_LOCS » August 18th, 2004, 12:21 pm

I THINK HE IS ASKING...."ARE U RACIST IF U WONT CONSIDER A RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE BASED ON THEIR RACE"
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 18th, 2004, 8:21 pm

Just because you prefer one race over another doesn't make you racist. We are attracted to whom we are attracted to. Nothing is going to change that. You could be with someone for showcase reason's but you may not be happy.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Storm » August 19th, 2004, 12:05 am

Common Sense wrote:Just because you prefer one race over another doesn't make you racist. We are attracted to whom we are attracted to. Nothing is going to change that. You could be with someone for showcase reason's but you may not be happy.


Common - I agree with you on that one, what I was asking (very badly) is that there are people who -if asked- will say they would never date out of 'colour lines' - now if you met someone you were attracted to - but they were a skin tone you said you'd never date so you dont take it further - is that (or would people consider that) racism ?
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 19th, 2004, 7:55 am

Storm wrote:
Common Sense wrote:Just because you prefer one race over another doesn't make you racist. We are attracted to whom we are attracted to. Nothing is going to change that. You could be with someone for showcase reason's but you may not be happy.


Common - I agree with you on that one, what I was asking (very badly) is that there are people who -if asked- will say they would never date out of 'colour lines' - now if you met someone you were attracted to - but they were a skin tone you said you'd never date so you dont take it further - is that (or would people consider that) racism ?


The answer is No. People can change their mind. Now if you were out there damnming people to hell, and swearing that you would never go there, you could still change your mind. Your ex collegues on the subject may label you a hypocrite...but so what. Everyone is entitled to their own happiness. Some people find it later than others.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby MEXICAN_RAZA_PRIDE831 » August 19th, 2004, 10:48 am

I LUV MAH LATINA SISTAHZ TO DEATH, ABOVE ALL RACES, BUT I LIKE BLACK CHICKS A LOT TOO!!! I USUALLY GO FOR WOMEN OF COLOR, NAMELY LATINAS AND BLACK SISTAHZ...
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Wisdom » August 24th, 2004, 3:51 am

aint nothin wrong with interacial marrriages. i used to not like it, but my girl is mixed race..but i havent got a problem with it now..every 1 got a bit of another race in them down the line of their heritage somewhere anyways
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 28th, 2004, 3:32 pm

Wisdom wrote:aint nothin wrong with interacial marrriages. i used to not like it, but my girl is mixed race..but i havent got a problem with it now..every 1 got a bit of another race in them down the line of their heritage somewhere anyways


why did you not like it in the past?

What changed your mind about it? Was it your mixed race girl???
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby LinozMami » August 29th, 2004, 1:12 am

let people date whoever they find that makes them happy. Thats what we all search for in life, that one who will be compatible with you. Moses wife was black and God chose him to lead a nation of people. So if Gods not trippin why should we?
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Wisdom » August 31st, 2004, 12:58 am

Common Sense wrote:
Wisdom wrote:aint nothin wrong with interacial marrriages. i used to not like it, but my girl is mixed race..but i havent got a problem with it now..every 1 got a bit of another race in them down the line of their heritage somewhere anyways


why did you not like it in the past?

What changed your mind about it? Was it your mixed race girl???



yea pretty much..i used to be against it cos all i had grown up amognst was black people, so i had the mentality of you have to stick to your race, cos if you dont then your just changin our race make-up and if everyone did that then the black race will eventually be gone. i also didnt like white folks too much..i didnt hate them, but just didnt wanna deal with them..

but im tottaly different now..my girl's dad is black and her mom is white, but her dickhead dad wanted an abortion and when the mother said no, he just left. so she grew up with a white family..so when i first went to her house i never thought that her family would accept me or whatever, but you know they are cool as fuck, and it gives me a chance to get out of my city cos where she is livin is not as rough..

but all in all, its not her fault that she's mixed race, and nobody choses what color they are..we are all humans right, so i think it would be wrong to just subject yourself to be against a particular race or individual just cos they are different..different is good cos it brings variety and without variety the world would be boring.

interacial marriages are cool by me, if you love someone then go for it..fuck a skin color
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby George » August 31st, 2004, 7:39 am

Nothing shameful or wrong with being of mixed race.

Nothing shameful of being in a interracial relationship. If your wife/girl or whatever makes you happy, does it make sense to break up with her just cuz society is not happy with who you are dating/marrying????

If someone makes your life happy, why break it off just cuz other people feel miserable about it?????????
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » September 7th, 2004, 10:10 am

Osama bin Laden had a little love affair with a black mistress. she says she is half Arab and half black. She looks very afrocentric...when I saw her in a interview last year.

Her name is Kola Boof. What she said about her ex lover was not flattering.

On August 23rd, 2003...Kola Boof appeared on FOX NEWS top rated program "Big Story Weekend with Rita Cosby". Boof, who had recently suffered a miscarriage, spoke about her days as Osama Bin Laden's mistress, referring to him as a combination of "Hitler and Ike Turner"...as well as a brilliant poet. Boof pointed out that he "raped" her the first night they met.

You can see the interview transcipt on the Osama bin Laden/Islamic Extremist Thread Page 3.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby AcmeWhiteBread » September 7th, 2004, 10:44 pm

Osama is afraid of women and so is most of the Muslim world. Why do you think they feel the need to torture, maim and destroy their self esteem. Im telling ya, the more I learn about, i slum , the more I hate muslims. They have added zero to the well being of man kind.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby AcmeWhiteBread » September 7th, 2004, 10:45 pm

Osama is afraid of women and so is most of the Muslim world. Why do you think they feel the need to torture, maim and destroy their self esteem of women. Im telling ya, the more I learn about, i slum , the more I hate muslims. They have added zero to the well being of man kind.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » September 8th, 2004, 12:08 am

AcmeWhiteBread wrote:Osama is afraid of women and so is most of the Muslim world. Why do you think they feel the need to torture, maim and destroy their self esteem of women. Im telling ya, the more I learn about, i slum , the more I hate muslims. They have added zero to the well being of man kind.


Welcome back ACME. The Osama bin Laden thread is pretty hot right now..if you choose to go over there.......LOL.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Mrs. D. » September 8th, 2004, 11:04 am

Hi - new to the board - first post.

I'm caucasian, have always dated same. Mostly because in this rural area, the population is not very diverse. However, awhile back I met and fell in love with a Black man. It was just so powerful, I wouldn't care what race, color, etc., he was - as long as he was HIM. I'd never really thought about the whole interracial marriage issue due to the remote area I live in. It doesn't bother me whatsoever. You can't help who you fall in love with. (just me two cents)
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » September 8th, 2004, 11:21 am

Mrs. D. wrote:Hi - new to the board - first post.

I'm caucasian, have always dated same. Mostly because in this rural area, the population is not very diverse. However, awhile back I met and fell in love with a Black man. It was just so powerful, I wouldn't care what race, color, etc., he was - as long as he was HIM. I'd never really thought about the whole interracial marriage issue due to the remote area I live in. It doesn't bother me whatsoever. You can't help who you fall in love with. (just me two cents)


Hi Mrs. D,

Welcome to the thread. I agree with you, and that is usually the case. You fall in love with the person not the race. If the same man was of the same race, you would still fall in love with him.

Other the hand, some people are attracted to others purely on race, and won't have anything romatically to do with their own race.

Some black men exclusively date women.
Some white men exclusively date asians.
Asian women usually date only white men outside of their race.

I think when race is the main criteria when selecting someone outside of your race vs. personality and compatibility, they're is usually something psychological behind it.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Panik » September 8th, 2004, 11:34 am

I think that those who will have nothing to do with other races sexually are not necessarily only attracted to their race, but their beliefs won't allow them to mess with another. I thnk they are still attracted whether they admit it nor not. Like my brother for instance. He isn't a white power, but he is a die hard wood. And he has spent 6 or 7 of the last 10 years on 3 and 4 yards in different state hotels. He says the same type of shi- that acme says. Black girls are nasty, big lips, noses, monkeys etc. But he also admitted that he would F halle berry if nobody ever found out. It's all bullshi- to me. As a man, you cannot look at a fine girl from a race you hate and think she is ugly, You cansay it out loud, but deep inside you can't possibly be unnactracted to a pretty girl, no matter what the color. This goes for the militant black guys too. Whether they admit it or not, they have seen a white girl they wanted tobone before. It's all just bullshi-.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » September 8th, 2004, 11:51 am

^^^If your brother did nail Halle, he wouldn't be able to hold that in, he would tell everybody....LOL. 15 minutes of fame. He would be the man.


P.S. Sorry for the mix up....:)
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby BABYBRAZE » September 8th, 2004, 11:57 am

eventually america's majority race is gonna b a mix of all type of shit and racism is only prolonging it
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Panik » September 8th, 2004, 1:04 pm

Common Sense wrote:^^^If your dad did nail Halle, he wouldn't be able to hold that in, he would tell everybody....LOL. 15 minutes of fame. He would be the man.



brother, not dad. AndI don;tknow. The only reason the subject came up was he was sayin in the pen they showed a movie and halle berry was in it. One of the woods made a comment of how he wanted to F-uck, and I gueess he got taxed severely by the other white boys for sayin in public that he wanted to F a black girl.

She is half white though right?
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Michelle » September 8th, 2004, 1:29 pm

She's half English I think.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » September 8th, 2004, 3:20 pm

One thing I can say about English girls..well let's go with British girls, is that they are generally down to earth, and don't require so much BS to be impressed.

I like a girl that doesn't mind wearing jeans and a T shirt and a friendly stroll down to the pub for a couple of pints.

American women especially on the two coast (L.A. & N.Y.) tend to be alot more high maintenence.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Lonewolf » September 8th, 2004, 3:24 pm

I'm an oldie, I like them to know how to cook some yummy mex' food too, not just look fine but know how to take care of the familia.

As far as inter-marriage, well love is love, now if you're marrying for another reason, then I would have to string you up if you try to tie up with my daughter per say.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » September 8th, 2004, 3:40 pm

lonewolf wrote:I'm an oldie, I like them to know how to cook some yummy mex' food too, not just look fine but know how to take care of the familia.

As far as inter-marriage, well love is love, now if you're marrying for another reason, then I would have to string you up if you try to tie up with my daughter per say.


a little off topic (sorry)

To Lonewolf:
Those are great qualities. I do admire a strong family which is so prevalent in Latin culture. Sometimes I wonder if taking care of the family has become too old sckool for some or distorted by others.

I have a question for you regarding distorting the old family values, maybe you can give me some feedback on this.

I was chatting with a few latina's down in El Paso, Texas. They were complaining that there men were hard core trippin', demanding that they stay at home with the children, no outside contact with their girlfriends, do what they say, and do not question authority. I think one of them was a victim of domestic violence too.

Is there a blur today with old latin family custom vs. a new breed of rules that the young generation is practicing. These two young women I spoke to seemed very miserable. They were trying to blame it on custom old customs.

I was thinking maybe it isn't custom, but the two men that they married?????
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Kemosave » September 8th, 2004, 3:54 pm

I think if a Senorita is trying to act white and finding rejection she will be unhappy. When you can be real with yourself and real about who and what you are and find contentment with that and THEN move on from there to be all you can be you will be challenged and happy with yourself.
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