documentary im tryin ta make

[Young Deuce]

im tryin ta make a documentary on the history of black gangs in st.louis......


here are some picz im using.......

49 beacon aka chingyz hood...



42 Ville aka my hood



imma have some mo.....

[A Ghost]

It should be good...

[Young Deuce]

mo picz of my hood.....






my brotha and his click from the hood when they was in high school....





he got the hat on....

[A Ghost]

who was t-boney?

[Young Deuce]

here is 1 pic of graffiti.....



and a couple mo of my hood befo i go on 2 othaz....









last one is the deceased og crooked l.....

[Young Deuce]

t-bone was a homie of mine who was tryin ta fix a gun and killed hisself.....he was a year younga than me he was only 15 when he died....

[Young Deuce]

42 eastblokc a kitchen crip hood we have "peaceful grounds" towards them kuz we got a common enemy......

[Young Deuce]

here is a hood called 58 pershing it is bloodz....

[Young Deuce]

this is some nigga from a hood called 44 bud they r opac crips which is believed to be the first st.louis "orginal" crip gang not included 6 deuce kitchen cripz because they r based of the kitchen crip gang........

[Young Deuce]

another pic...oh i forgot ta mention that opac crips gang color is green...they have 4 dif hoodz as far as i kno...44 bud, 21 laide, 43 gib, and 41 pst....






niggaz went as far as having green dreads....

[Young Deuce]

here go a pic of a hood called 50 Geraldine or just 50 G....they rollin 60z cripz......




rollin 60z colors in STL r blue and yellow as this dude is showin and throwin up.....

[Past]

a lot of them niggas look like huey

[Jinky]

Is the guy on the right in the top picture and the guy down the bottom in the second the same person ?

And is he missing some fingers or somethin?

[StillNoScript]

Good luck with the film, Duece.

I can see St. Louis definitely has an L.A. influence. Do you have a lot of information regarding the early migration of L.A. gangs into St. Louis that's going to be in the film?

[A Ghost]

Meanwhile racist whites laugh their asses off while blacks hurt other blacks....

(not directed at young duece)



..ps, that's a lot of dreads lol

[Young Deuce]

Good luck with the film, Duece.

I can see St. Louis definitely has an L.A. influence. Do you have a lot of information regarding the early migration of L.A. gangs into St. Louis that's going to be in the film?

not fa real but i been tryin ta ask around i got most of the history

[Mcminister]

yea some of'em pics look like its a gang in LA

1 of the first pics with them brothas dressed in red alot of them are throwin up a W does it represent west coast?

[Young Deuce]

naw just westside as in westside st.louis u got dudez throwin up Nz fa northside......

['X']

yea some of'em pics look like its a gang in LA

Naw, not even close...


And I'm speechless looking at these pics...WOW!

[londonpride]

Theres a docu about gangs in saint louis done by an english soap actor ross kemp.This is part one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdA1T4a9 ... ed&search=

[Past]

Ice cube got a song about LA gangs moving to STL its called my summer vacation, Daz has a similar song called summer vacation too on his myspace.

[Mcminister]

i bet that dude tookie williams and raymond washington never thought wat they was doin gon influence this many niggaz soo far away only after 3 or 4 decades

[A Ghost]

i bet that dude tookie williams and raymond washington never thought wat they was doin gon influence this many niggaz soo far away only after 3 or 4 decades

Even though it started with good intentions, its too bad that it expanded, and hurt blacks so much....

[Mcminister]

word

its wierd how people smile and throw up gang signs as if its a happy thing and a red bandana as if its a scholarship paper
but who ima to speak i cant lie i have thrown up signs too and taken pictures ( not no crip or blood ones )

its like somethin that sucks u in and controls u and with alot of homo'z n tricks in this world u feel like ur fam/gang is the only thing u got, and u start puttin it at a high position like its god and feel like ud kill someone fo disrespectin it, or talkin shit buot it

[Mcminister]

i hate watchin gang documentaries it gives me this wack ass feelin inside

watchin'em video's of peolpe kill eachother is harder than see'in it in real life
the action look way worse on tape, fo me its worse

[Hydro2oo6]

talkin of st lois documentarys, ross kemp(an english guy who makes gang documentarys around the world) did 1 of st louis

here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdA1T4a9 ... ed&search=

its in about 6 parts

[StillNoScript]

Ghost, regarding Whites laughing; If a documentary gets into the elements that lead to gangs, from all angles, racist Whites are not laughing. They hate that because it takes the wind out of their sail as they try to convince everyone that gangs are just evil criminals. The truth is like kryptonite to them. That's why I hope to see a regular feature movie hit the big screen someday that deals with the elements of society that perpetuate and exploit gang violence as well as the gangs themselves. Something like "Lord of War" meets "Menace".

*tsk tsk.

People say movies exploit gang violence, too. But you can make a movie about anything. If gangs died tomorrow, there's a whole world of other things to write about. Prison developers, law enforcement agencies looking to inflate their budgets, on the other hand, would have a problem. Know what I'm saying?

Films, documentary or feature, fiction or non fiction, that only exploit the violence, sex, drama, etc. are useless. It's porn, more or less. But a film that focuses on all elements of the problem are both entertaining and educational at the same time. It's just that we hardly see them anymore, except for on the independent circuit. But who watches independent films? Pretty much, film geeks, and that's it. I want to see something good hit the theaters nation wide, for everyone to see. I want it to have the biggest stars, the whole 9. And, I want it to be realistic and good as f'k.

[StillNoScript]

Sorry to get off topic, Duece. This is your thread. Keep us updated on how things are going along with your project.

[Noog]

I'm not knocking St Louis at all here, just feeling kind of suprised - I'm not suprised about St Lois having gangs, nah, standard in todays world in a biggish city seen - but suprised by the c and b thing still. Even as a way outsider, I could see how those peeps weren't hard-core like many LA clicks. Thats not to say those parts dont have their ish, sure they will, but its still a shame to see so many healthy looking kids tryin to get mobbed up like that - to me those pics lookd more like social club than hard core gang thing and would be better that wayu. Seems a damn shame.

[A Ghost]

Ghost, regarding Whites laughing; If a documentary gets into the elements that lead to gangs, from all angles, racist Whites are not laughing. They hate that because it takes the wind out of their sail as they try to convince everyone that gangs are just evil criminals. The truth is like kryptonite to them. That's why I hope to see a regular feature movie hit the big screen someday that deals with the elements of society that perpetuate and exploit gang violence as well as the gangs themselves. Something like "Lord of War" meets "Menace".

*tsk tsk.

People say movies exploit gang violence, too. But you can make a movie about anything. If gangs died tomorrow, there's a whole world of other things to write about. Prison developers, law enforcement agencies looking to inflate their budgets, on the other hand, would have a problem. Know what I'm saying?

Films, documentary or feature, fiction or non fiction, that only exploit the violence, sex, drama, etc. are useless. It's porn, more or less. But a film that focuses on all elements of the problem are both entertaining and educational at the same time. It's just that we hardly see them anymore, except for on the independent circuit. But who watches independent films? Pretty much, film geeks, and that's it. I want to see something good hit the theaters nation wide, for everyone to see. I want it to have the biggest stars, the whole 9. And, I want it to be realistic and good as f'k.

They may not laugh in the literal sense but they love seeing blacks hurt themselves

[Young Deuce]

I'm not knocking St Louis at all here, just feeling kind of suprised - I'm not suprised about St Lois having gangs, nah, standard in todays world in a biggish city seen - but suprised by the c and b thing still. Even as a way outsider, I could see how those peeps weren't hard-core like many LA clicks. Thats not to say those parts dont have their ish, sure they will, but its still a shame to see so many healthy looking kids tryin to get mobbed up like that - to me those pics lookd more like social club than hard core gang thing and would be better that wayu. Seems a damn shame.

naw most of the pic r of young dudes and i aint really gotta lotta of photographs of them "OGz"......yeah it is a shame but it is what it is....

[Young Deuce]

yea some of'em pics look like its a gang in LA

Naw, not even close...


And I'm speechless looking at these pics...WOW!

all u doin is talkin shit and knockin them....u bascailly tryin ta put out there that these dudes aint real.......and it is niggaz out here that will fuck u up fa they shitand say they r not real kuz of how much they believe in they shit....they might b smilin fa the photos now but they some stone cold killa since 12.....and yeah im serious kuz itz not a joke kuz young dudes like myself are killin theyselves ova some shit they no nothin about.....