Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles?

[Black_Kingz86]

When a Latino boxer wins a heavyweight title or even a light heavyweight OR welterweight then maybe y'all can open ur mouth but till then y'all hush Latinos still got a long way to go in the Boxing world baby!!!

[oso1]

When a Latino boxer wins a heavyweight title or even a light heavyweight OR welterweight then maybe y'all can open ur mouth but till then y'all hush Latinos still got a long way to go in the Boxing world baby!!!

What ? .................doesnt matter what weight division a fighter is in, a great fighter is a great fighter.

white, black, latino, asain what ever does not matter. look at the heavy weight division right now, not too exciting compared to the lighter weights at this time.

Its funny how boxing fans like to use race as to compare whos more dominant/superior, but boxers themselves have respect for other boxers regardless of race or weight division.

I just got through reading Heavyweight champion Larry Holmes's autobioghraphy, and he mentions how he respects ODLH , for the fighter he is.

As for welterweight champions, Oscar De La Hoya, Carlos Palomino, Ricardo Mayorga and Felix Trinidad are just a few latino champions that have been title holders.

[100]

Ricans got indan in them too. Taino indian. but the truth is they got more black because the spanish killed so much of the tainos.

NOT ALL OF THEM

[Silencioso]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

[The Panch]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

I dont understand what you're saying "There's not such thing a a Puerto Rican mestizo" Have you seen Jimmy Smitts or Luis Guzman?? Come on doggy.

[Lonewolf]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

I dont understand what you're saying "There's not such thing a a Puerto Rican mestizo" Have you seen Jimmy Smitts or Luis Guzman?? Come on doggy.

Would a Puerto Rican Boriqua/Boricua equal as like a Mexican Mestizo?

[The Panch]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

I dont understand what you're saying "There's not such thing a a Puerto Rican mestizo" Have you seen Jimmy Smitts or Luis Guzman?? Come on doggy.

Would a Puerto Rican Boriqua/Boricua equal as like a Mexican Mestizo?

That's no comparison. Puerto Ricans are a very diverse group of people as opposed to Mexican's who's majority is Mestizo.

[Lonewolf]

I don't much about San Juan, Puerto Rico or Boricuas, but I would assume that you have the
mix of Western European (Spaniard/French & English) mixed in with Blacks and Natives just
like us in Mexico right?

Mexico is a big a*s country my man, and it's people and mix of people is "varied" depending
what pare of the country you're from. For example, if you hit the gulf coast along Veracruz or
the Pacific coast around Guerrero, you find plenty of Black mixed in with the Natives. If you
hit the central states like Michoacan & Jalisco, there's some of the most olden mixes of Central
Indian with Spaniards. If you hit the northern central states, you will find tall white, blonde hair
blue eyed Mexicans (propably like Martinez, lol ) and that's because of teir mixture
with French soldiers and American adventurers and frontiersman. If you hit the states like
Sonora and Sinaloa, again you finf the mix between Spaniard and Native, only these natives
were not lil darker skin Indiand, no sir, these natives were tall and bronze skinned, you know,
like the Yaquis and Apaches, big mofo's. Then you hit the states like Puebla and Tlaxcala, and
there you find some of the purer un-mixed Mexican Natives like the ones you see at the border
selling candy and bubblegum <~~ true original Mexican Natives of shorter statue and dark skin
with little facial hair and rounded face and body frame with long dark hair. These are only some
of the many differences between the "Mestizo" Raza of Mexico, so I don't know man? Tell me
about yours?

[The Panch]

All that shit you mentioned holds little weight in the United States. White Mexicans take up less than 1/10 of Mexico's population and they take up far less than that here in the U.S. Blacks take up less than 1% and the vast majority of those are in South Mexico and not messin with the U.S. The majority of Chicanos are either Native/Spanish or pure blood Native with Spanish being a very distant 3rd.(I know quite a few "anglo" Mexicans, but I live in half Mexican town, sooo....)

[Lonewolf]

Somewhere along the line we went in different directions, maybe I need to work on my communication. .

I was referring to Mexicans in "general", wether here in Amerikka or down south of The Line. I ain't never
met a Mexican that differentiates in terms of who's Mestizo or not (who's more native or not). Now if you're
talking about Chicanos, well then, that's another side of the story; and if you're talking about white-Mexicans
those we call Españoles, Criolos or Gallegos ~~> "NOT MEXICANS".

[The Panch]

Being white or Brown doesnt define you're Mexican. A white Mexican is just as Mexican as a Brown one. Just cause it derived from "Mexica" dont mean shit cause whites still run Mexico.

[Lonewolf]

Being white or Brown doesnt define you're Mexican. A white Mexican is just as Mexican as a Brown one. Just cause it derived from "Mexica" dont mean shit cause whites still run Mexico.

tHE WAY "mEXICAN" is understood "outside of Mexico proper" is not quite understood the same. In Mexico and with it's people, things are viewed and understood differently than per say ~~> Americanized "Latinos/Hispanics" > That's Real!

[Silencioso]

I Meant there's no true PR meztizo (half White half indian). There;s not enough Indian blood in PR to have mestizos. Jimmy Smits is half Surinamese. He has Indoneasian blood.

[TomTom]

Ricans got indan in them too. Taino indian. but the truth is they got more black because the spanish killed so much of the tainos.

this is sooooo true and i got plenty of PR homeys that tell me this to..shit i got PR homeys that look black, just like me..

[perongregory]

What alot of people dont take in mind is on the islands and in Latin America in general, the Europeans usually brought more Africans than they did their own people. Mix that with the csste sytems and the native population you have a lot of colored people mixing and then trying to mix with white to move up in racial rank. In America, you have a native culture the whites are beating back, a small black population compared to whites so the miscegenation is gonna play out a little different than in other parts of the Americas.

[The Panch]

I Meant there's no true PR meztizo (half White half indian). There;s not enough Indian blood in PR to have mestizos. Jimmy Smits is half Surinamese. He has Indoneasian blood.

Bottom line is, that's a lie. I know Puerto Ricans who are easy to mistake for Mexican/Central American cause they're so Indegeous looking.



And how can you dispute Luis Guzman?? Dude looks almost entirely Indegenous with some obvious black in em cause of his hair.

[NICKELS]

The old time actress rita hayworth is puerto rican

[TeeKay]

Naw her moms was spanish/Andalusian(european), pops was english decent

[NICKELS]

DELA HOYAS WIFE WHITE PUERTO RICAN , AND THERE SON HE CAME OUT WHITE TOO

[Silencioso]

PR was part of the Spanish Empire for 70 years longer than Mexico. There was steady immigration from Spain during that time plus some immigration from Ireland, France, Germany and Corsica. There are PR's that are descended from Spanish Jews, even. The white/Euro element is much stronger in Puerto Ricans than Mexicans. Also in Mexico the whites are usually in the upper classes where as in PR you'll see white looking people in the slums and throughout the general society.

I'd say the most common racial types in PR are as follows.

Most common in order:
Light mulatto/Griffo
white/European
dark mulatto
black/African

Least common:
mestizo
pure Indian (basically non-existent)
East Asian

[TeeKay]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

IMO ricans look more mixed then mexicans

[NICKELS]

PR was part of the Spanish Empire for 70 years longer than Mexico. There was steady immigration from Spain during that time plus some immigration from Ireland, France, Germany and Corsica. There are PR's that are descended from Spanish Jews, even. The white/Euro element is much stronger in Puerto Ricans than Mexicans. Also in Mexico the whites are usually in the upper classes where as in PR you'll see white looking people in the slums and throughout the general society.

I'd say the most common racial types in PR are as follows.

Most common in order:
Light mulatto/Griffo
white/European
dark mulatto
black/African

Least common:
mestizo
pure Indian (basically non-existent)
East Asian

HELL YEAH YOU KNOW YOUR SHYT , I WAS DATING THIS IRISH LOOKING PUERTO RICAN GIRL , I SEEN A LOT OF WHITE ONES IN NEWYORK AND FLORIDA , JOSE FERRER LOOKS LIKE A JEW TO ME , SOME NAMES IN SPANISH HAVE JEWISH ORIGINS AND ROOTS LIKE THE NAME " LOPEZ " PRERZ ...CUBAN DUDE TAUGHT ME THAT , LIKE THE DUDE I THINK HIS NAME IS FRANCISCO ON SPANISH T.V. HE BE YELLING SABADO GIGANTE " HES FROM EUROPE GERMAN JEW ...BUT HE LOOK HISPAINC AND HE BEEN ON SPANISH TV FOR YEARSSSSSS , THAT ACTRESS KATHEINE ZITA - JONES IS WELSH BUT SHE LOOK HISPANIC ,

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All that shit you mentioned holds little weight in the United States. White Mexicans take up less than 1/10 of Mexico's population and they take up far less than that here in the U.S. Blacks take up less than 1% and the vast majority of those are in South Mexico and not messin with the U.S. The majority of Chicanos are either Native/Spanish or pure blood Native with Spanish being a very distant 3rd.(I know quite a few "anglo" Mexicans, but I live in half Mexican town, sooo....)

ANGLO AS IN WHAT?, FRENCH SPANISH, ITALIAN ARENT ANGLO THEIR LATIN

[100]

PR was part of the Spanish Empire for 70 years longer than Mexico. There was steady immigration from Spain during that time plus some immigration from Ireland, France, Germany and Corsica. There are PR's that are descended from Spanish Jews, even. The white/Euro element is much stronger in Puerto Ricans than Mexicans. Also in Mexico the whites are usually in the upper classes where as in PR you'll see white looking people in the slums and throughout the general society.

I'd say the most common racial types in PR are as follows.

Most common in order:
Light mulatto/Griffo
white/European
dark mulatto
black/African

Least common:
mestizo
pure Indian (basically non-existent)
East Asian

HELL YEAH YOU KNOW YOUR SHYT , I WAS DATING THIS IRISH LOOKING PUERTO RICAN GIRL , I SEEN A LOT OF WHITE ONES IN NEWYORK AND FLORIDA , JOSE FERRER LOOKS LIKE A JEW TO ME , SOME NAMES IN SPANISH HAVE JEWISH ORIGINS AND ROOTS LIKE THE NAME " LOPEZ " PRERZ ...CUBAN DUDE TAUGHT ME THAT , LIKE THE DUDE I THINK HIS NAME IS FRANCISCO ON SPANISH T.V. HE BE YELLING SABADO GIGANTE " HES FROM EUROPE GERMAN JEW ...BUT HE LOOK HISPAINC AND HE BEEN ON SPANISH TV FOR YEARSSSSSS , THAT ACTRESS KATHEINE ZITA - JONES IS WELSH BUT SHE LOOK HISPANIC ,

HOW DOES A HISPANIC LOOK IF THE ETHNIC GROUP CONSIST OF DIFFERENT RACES?
WTH IS A IRISH PUERTO RICAN? A PUERTO RICAN OF IRISH DESCENT OR SOMEONE WHOS HALF PR HALF IRISH?
IRISH SETTLERS WERE IN PRLONG BEFORE THE PR CULTUREW AS SHAPED

I DONT UNDERSTAND YOUR POST.

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What alot of people dont take in mind is on the islands and in Latin America in general, the Europeans usually brought more Africans than they did their own people. Mix that with the csste sytems and the native population you have a lot of colored people mixing and then trying to mix with white to move up in racial rank. In America, you have a native culture the whites are beating back, a small black population compared to whites so the miscegenation is gonna play out a little different than in other parts of the Americas.

IMMIGRATION OCCURED FROM VARIOUS EUROPEAN NATIONS INCLUDING SPAIN BY THETHOUSANDSWHICH IS WHY THE MAJORITYOF PRS ARE OF EUOPEAN DECENTAND ON TOP OFTHAT EUOPEANS HAVE DIFFERENT LOOKS AND HUES LATER SO YOUR WHINNING IS FLAWED

[NyClassic4ever]

LOL

Damn, Mexicans are invading the US. I know alot of Mexicans leaving Cali and going to other places but never heard of them going all the way to CT. I know NY is getting flooded with Mexicans.

Maybe you are late on this but Mexicans have landed on CT also! In NY the have definately flooded every town and borough. Even on 116 street "spanish harlem which was puerto rican since the early 40's and 50's is now mostly Mexican shops and stores. The last Italian shop disappeared like last year and the puerto ricans one also dissapearing for Mexican shops and street vendors on the main street of the puerto rican harlem.

[NyClassic4ever]

well there has always been problems between puerto ricans and mexicans mainly because ignorant people think that everyone whom speaks spanish comes from Mexico that why most have a little grudge against Mexicans

On the east coast (NY )it has been the opposite. Prior to the 90's everyone speaking spanish was called a puerto rican by default. Now all of a sudden everyone is very familar with what a mexican looks like and what a puerto rican looks like.

[NyClassic4ever]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

I dont understand what you're saying "There's not such thing a a Puerto Rican mestizo" Have you seen Jimmy Smitts or Luis Guzman?? Come on doggy.

No puerto rican mestizos? Ha ha....does the name Erik Estrada mean anything to you? Many people thought he was mexican

[perongregory]

What alot of people dont take in mind is on the islands and in Latin America in general, the Europeans usually brought more Africans than they did their own people. Mix that with the csste sytems and the native population you have a lot of colored people mixing and then trying to mix with white to move up in racial rank. In America, you have a native culture the whites are beating back, a small black population compared to whites so the miscegenation is gonna play out a little different than in other parts of the Americas.

IMMIGRATION OCCURED FROM VARIOUS EUROPEAN NATIONS INCLUDING SPAIN BY THETHOUSANDSWHICH IS WHY THE MAJORITYOF PRS ARE OF EUOPEAN DECENTAND ON TOP OFTHAT EUOPEANS HAVE DIFFERENT LOOKS AND HUES LATER SO YOUR WHINNING IS FLAWED

what is whinning? never heard of that word

[k001869]

In florida yeah i've heard plenty times ricans beaten on mexicans and in chicago but in cali it would take them forever to get there numbers up.

MMM yeah that aint happening in Chicago, maybe Illegals getting robbed, but not Chicanos two many of us in Chicago, plus neighborhoods that used to be known for being PR are now overwhelmingly mixed with Mexican families, I for the most part never had any bad situations with PRs seeing how eventually we all inter-marry, we may have our friendly rivalries but its not like the 70s when there might have been some tensions due to jobs but thats mostly economic in nature.

[k001869]

There aint no damn Ricans in LA. The biggest Rican populations in America be in this order, NY, CHI, Philly. Only NY and CHI have over 100,000 Ricans because they arent as big a Latino group as the Mexicans are. And for Mexican population in the cities its LA, followed by Houston, then Chicago. So if yall gonna ask bout Ricans VS Mexicans yall should ask people whose city actually has both and huge numbers. Yall dont know bout no Ricans! If a Rican doesnt like a Mexican up here in Chicago its prolly because of anomosity that Ricans have now that Mexicans are sorta dominating the latino numbers in Chicago and are still increasing. While the Ricans have been around for decades and were the founders of the gangs like the Latin Kings, Maniac Latin Disciples, PR Stones, etc. And now alotta the Rican gangs (they are still majority Rican) have taken in other groups including the Mexicans. So a Chi Rican Latin King might be kinda arrogant to a Mexican Latin King since the ALKN has roots in the Puerto Rican struggle. All they reall have in common is Spanish but Ricans got that black and Mexicans got that Indian. Im just looking out from the outside because Im not Rican or Mexican, you have to ask one of them. And we have King Cobras in Chicago. I guess the Chi mobs just go every where it seems.

Majority of Latin Kings I know are all of Mexican origins, the original Latin King sets were all up north around the humbolt park area PR side of town, but even those are mostly Mexican now, The biggest latin king sets are all on the south side of the city, and just about all the latinos on the southside are all Mexican.

[k001869]

^^^Thats Crazy

I used to live in Providence about 10 years ago. While there always have been Ricans and Dominicans, I hear that there a grip Mexicans there now.

I got one question, do the East coast Mexicans rep themselves like L.A. Mexicans (ese style)? Or do they have their own thing going on?

I think they tend to adopt the regional dialect and style of that area, some will try reall hard to act all ESE L.A and sh(*t but eventually the mexicans that I know that live in NY now have kids that talk with a heavy Brooklyn accent, I'm talking second gen which there are a very few, but in Chicago mexicans dont act all ESE, we got our own style its a mixture.