El Dorado Red Explaining the Ny Blood Situation.

[LcBwC]

Why is ya'll niggaz still bitch!in about this situation?,the niggaz in UBN starting their stuff fo a reason ya'll fools already know that point blank.

Since NY is such trend setters why didn't they start something different from the bloods? Start something then click up with bloods just don't bite the whole damn thing. NY is known for startin trends thats why its so difficult for everyone to digest.

Its difficult for me to digest cuz NY always hypin ish up and downing CA esp in the 90s....but now CA aint so bad huh hahaha

[LcBwC]

Why the so called o.g mack named it or should i say started it cause it was maybe to much bloodshed going on between our black race against them racist azz hispanic's and mexicans always trying to rule things,or he watch a documentary about "the bloods" and it inspired him.

One can make that arguement but when they start emulating CA bdogs its no longer understood. Why bang on Crips? Why flame up? Why the rags? Why lil niccas making a claim so hard to be tied to CA in some type of way? If it was their own thing and just happened to have the same name, then why not keep the original enemy...now they got Puerto Ricans runnin with them in the street. BACKWARDS

[Hell]

UBN BLOODS DIDN'T USED THE 5 UNTIL 2000, BUT THAT IS THE EXPLANATION FOR ALL THE LK AND BLOOD BEEF, CAUSE THEY KNOW BLOOD AINT SUPPOSE TO BANG THE 5.

[TeeKay]

Wut I don't undestand is why after 14 years, do niggas wanna question this ny blood shit? This shit been out here since 93', baq when the latin kings were assaulting the black inmates on the island causing them to form UBN (united blood nation). This shit been out in these streets before all this gang glorifying shit started, why niggas got sumthin 2 say or question when jim jones starts wearing a flag? I don't know how it is in upstate new york or the rural parts of new york, but out here in the city (I'm talkin bx, bk, queens etc.) Niggas keep it gully, there's fake blood n crip niggas here, but there's also fake blood n loc niggas out in the west 2, and worldwide... I'm tired of tellin niggas theres bitch niggas n real gangsters everywhere. Rappers on the videos don't represent real niggas dying in these streets. And out of all states new 2 this cali gang shit, ya niggas trynna get at ny?
Have yall been 2 florida? Boston? Conneticut? That shit makes me laugh when I see niggas out there n I aint even a cali nigga...its all gravy tho, I like the old new york, when being a drug kingpin wuz the shit, n niggas had they own personal crews... I rather make big paper than kill niggas 4 a fu*kin flag, that shit is pointless out here, it aint like cali niggas that r born into that shit...I do respect that the homie eldorado red get love out there tho, especially as a harlem blood nigga, that's why u can't say niggas out here aint official kuz niggaz is dyin over this shit 2 out here.....

The thing is though, yeah ok some NY dudes is bangin,but they lackin the culture.

[TeeKay]

i think its the fact that the NY hatin on the west so bad back in the day now they have branches of that they not lettin them live it down...

True, back in the day i would have laughed, the last person to copy cali would be NY i would of said on that,midwest is in the middle so they get a bit of both chi and la.

[Young Deuce]

st.louis is not as Chi town influenced as u may think..... except fa the eastside....but yeah is red really excepted on the west like it seems???

[Shox112]

is there a difference between es/ws st.lou and u know that city on the other side of the mississippi river east st. lou in illinois, i think?

[Young Deuce]

eastside is east st.louis ILL we just count that as the eastside...st.louis (as in just the city) has north,west, south,central west end, and downtown) but we count the eastide as a part of the lou......

[Redrag52]

Why is ya'll niggaz still bitch!in about this situation?,the niggaz in UBN starting their stuff fo a reason ya'll fools already know that point blank.

Since NY is such trend setters why didn't they start something different from the bloods? Start something then click up with bloods just don't bite the whole damn thing. NY is known for startin trends thats why its so difficult for everyone to digest.

thats very true they should have called thereselves the " nine trey gang " and then they could ride the 5 points if they wanted too.
but not steal the blood & Ubn name and ride on there reputation. if he wanted to connect with bloods go to california have a sit down with an OG.

[Redrag52]

Why the so called o.g mack named it or should i say started it cause it was maybe to much bloodshed going on between our black race against them racist azz hispanic's and mexicans always trying to rule things,or he watch a documentary about "the bloods" and it inspired him.

Hispanics always try to take on blacks when they are large in numbers , as from what i heard he read a " book " in the penn and from what he new from gang influence from music and somebody he bumped into told him about bloods in california , so he came up with his own ideas on creating his fake version of bloods.

in newyork you have fake bloods , wannabee bloods , non - black gang groupies , and transformers people switchin to fake bloods from other gangs and from enemy rivals , and then you have REAL california connected bloods and crips wich is very few.

[Redrag52]

Why the so called o.g mack named it or should i say started it cause it was maybe to much bloodshed going on between our black race against them racist azz hispanic's and mexicans always trying to rule things,or he watch a documentary about "the bloods" and it inspired him.

One can make that arguement but when they start emulating CA bdogs its no longer understood. Why bang on Crips? Why flame up? Why the rags? Why lil niccas making a claim so hard to be tied to CA in some type of way? If it was their own thing and just happened to have the same name, then why not keep the original enemy...now they got Puerto Ricans runnin with them in the street. BACKWARDS

LOL , yep that is stupid , thats like having f - 13 becoming eastcoast crips , when there enemies , thats them ketchup nickas , being blood is a friendship club a fan club , you should see the kids from the school system here , man its like a infatuation epidemic , you they got groups of spanish guys claimn there bloods jumping a black kid , LOL thats like a group of black kids claimin there latin kings or ms - 13 , jumping and beating up latinos and other hispanic .....BACKWARDS , they dont have clue

[Redrag52]

they dont understand what it is to be a blood or the history of bloods , they think you just get flamed up and go out and attack people , to show you a gangsta , like them bandanas is going to make you strong , crips and bloods should be bringing back pride to black people and protecting the black community from crooked cops , child molesters , rapist , and racisim from any race of people , getting the people to generate money for there selves and the people as a whole so we can grow as black people. thats the direction they want us to go , thats what i was taught in california

[Redrag52]

they dont understand what it is to be a blood or the history of bloods , they think you just get flamed up and go out and attack people , to show you a gangsta , like them bandanas is going to make you strong , crips and bloods should be bringing back pride to black people and protecting the black community from crooked cops , child molesters , rapist , and racisim from any race of people , getting the people to generate money for there selves and the people as a whole so we can grow as black people. thats the direction they want us to go , thats what i was taught in california

i cant blame them either cause some homies do the same thing out west too and thats what they see on them dvds

[LcBwC]

Ive said it time and time again....I dont get it and I never will. It makes no sense to me. I wouldnt even want to be apart of something that wasnt on some real ish.

[Redrag52]

Ive said it time and time again....I dont get it and I never will. It makes no sense to me. I wouldnt even want to be apart of something that wasnt on some real ish.

LcBwC - i feel you 100% homie , i dont even throw it up with these dudes here , i only keep in contact with homies i know whos from the west here in newyork and they each got there own stories to tell you about these ketchup niggs , i sit with the lil homies whos willing to learn and know the history and where it should go for the future. but the fakes they are die hard lost on some 1988 old school california fantasy. hilarious "

[Shox112]

they dont understand what it is to be a blood or the history of bloods , they think you just get flamed up and go out and attack people , to show you a gangsta , like them bandanas is going to make you strong , crips and bloods should be bringing back pride to black people and protecting the black community from crooked cops , child molesters , rapist , and racisim from any race of people , getting the people to generate money for there selves and the people as a whole so we can grow as black people. thats the direction they want us to go , thats what i was taught in california

honestly my nigga I got no doubt in my mind that u got connected with some g's from the Puebs

[Shox112]

they dont understand what it is to be a blood or the history of bloods , they think you just get flamed up and go out and attack people , to show you a gangsta , like them bandanas is going to make you strong , crips and bloods should be bringing back pride to black people and protecting the black community from crooked cops , child molesters , rapist , and racisim from any race of people , getting the people to generate money for there selves and the people as a whole so we can grow as black people. thats the direction they want us to go , thats what i was taught in california

honestly my nigga I got no doubt in my mind that u got connected with some g's from the Puebs

[LcBwC]

Ive said it time and time again....I dont get it and I never will. It makes no sense to me. I wouldnt even want to be apart of something that wasnt on some real ish.

LcBwC - i feel you 100% homie , i dont even throw it up with these dudes here , i only keep in contact with homies i know whos from the west here in newyork and they each got there own stories to tell you about these ketchup niggs , i sit with the lil homies whos willing to learn and know the history and where it should go for the future. but the fakes they are die hard lost on some 1988 old school california fantasy. hilarious "

Oh thats the worse when I have niccas from NY scream at me about how real they are but they are talking about ish that happened late 80s early 90s.

['X']

This still a debate on here?? lol...

We all know who is often imitated...

[Hell]

Itsn't This The Truth About Mack?:

O.G. MACK WAS IN RIKERS ISLAND WHERE HE MET SOME BLACK P STONES FROM CHI-TOWN. AND HE TALKED 2 THE BLACK-P STONES AND THEY SHARED SOME HISTORY ABOUT THE PEOPLES NATION AND THE 5 AND ALL OF THAT. THEN O.G. MACK WANTED 2 BECOME A BLACK P STONE . BUT THEY WOULDNT LET O.G. MACK JOIN BECAUSE OF HIS LACK OF CONNECTIONS ON THE OUTSIDE AND HIS MIND REALLY WASNT FOCUSED ON THE 5 POINTS OF LIFE AND THE WAYS OF THE BLACK P. STONE AND PEOPLES NATION. SO MACK READ A BOOK ABOUT L.A. GANGS. AND IN THE BOOK HE READ ABOUT THE UBN THAT EXISTED IN A L.A. PRISON WHICH HELD BLACK GANGS TOGETHER IN PRISON. AND THEN MACK PUT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT HE RECIEVED FROM THE BLACK P STONES AND THE INFORMATION HE READ ABOUT THE L.A. GANGS AND HE PUT IT IN A BOOK THAT HE CALLED THE BOOK OF KNOWLEDGE AND HE MADE SOME UP SOME CODES AND PRAYERS AND QUESTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND HE STARTED THE UBN IN RIKERS ISLAND ALONG SIDE DEADEYE. AND THATS HOW IT ALL BEGAN. HE DIDNT ACTAULLY GO 2 L.A. BUT HE READ THE L.A. GANGS BOOK AND THATS HOW HE KNEW ABOUT THE SWANS AND OTHER GANGS AND ALSO HE THOUGHT THE 5 WAS FOR BLOODS AFTER HE TALKED 2 THE BLACK P STONES AND THATS HOW HE KNEW ABOUT T.RODGERS AND THE OTHERS . THATS WHY EVERYTHING IS SO MIXED UP AND HOMIES OUT HERE BANGIN INCORRECT. BUT IF YOU STILL BANGIN GKB , NTG , SMM AND VB JUST BE ON POINT

[Young Deuce]

Let me ask yall this would yall go to harlem or some otha place in NYC and say "yall niggaz is fake,yall bangin incorect" and how many of yall is actually from a LA hood?

[Redrag52]

Itsn't This The Truth About Mack?:

O.G. MACK WAS IN RIKERS ISLAND WHERE HE MET SOME BLACK P STONES FROM CHI-TOWN. AND HE TALKED 2 THE BLACK-P STONES AND THEY SHARED SOME HISTORY ABOUT THE PEOPLES NATION AND THE 5 AND ALL OF THAT. THEN O.G. MACK WANTED 2 BECOME A BLACK P STONE . BUT THEY WOULDNT LET O.G. MACK JOIN BECAUSE OF HIS LACK OF CONNECTIONS ON THE OUTSIDE AND HIS MIND REALLY WASNT FOCUSED ON THE 5 POINTS OF LIFE AND THE WAYS OF THE BLACK P. STONE AND PEOPLES NATION. SO MACK READ A BOOK ABOUT L.A. GANGS. AND IN THE BOOK HE READ ABOUT THE UBN THAT EXISTED IN A L.A. PRISON WHICH HELD BLACK GANGS TOGETHER IN PRISON. AND THEN MACK PUT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT HE RECIEVED FROM THE BLACK P STONES AND THE INFORMATION HE READ ABOUT THE L.A. GANGS AND HE PUT IT IN A BOOK THAT HE CALLED THE BOOK OF KNOWLEDGE AND HE MADE SOME UP SOME CODES AND PRAYERS AND QUESTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND HE STARTED THE UBN IN RIKERS ISLAND ALONG SIDE DEADEYE. AND THATS HOW IT ALL BEGAN. HE DIDNT ACTAULLY GO 2 L.A. BUT HE READ THE L.A. GANGS BOOK AND THATS HOW HE KNEW ABOUT THE SWANS AND OTHER GANGS AND ALSO HE THOUGHT THE 5 WAS FOR BLOODS AFTER HE TALKED 2 THE BLACK P STONES AND THATS HOW HE KNEW ABOUT T.RODGERS AND THE OTHERS . THATS WHY EVERYTHING IS SO MIXED UP AND HOMIES OUT HERE BANGIN INCORRECT. BUT IF YOU STILL BANGIN GKB , NTG , SMM AND VB JUST BE ON POINT

everything you said is what was explained to me , except the black p stone part , the blood he bump into , nobody knows where they was from , some say it was a homie from miller gangsta bloods , some say it was a treet top piru , but who ever it was they spoke to much with him and they did not except him or put him on the set. it could have been a dude from chicago claimin blood , at one time nyc bloods was yelling woooowoooo instead of soooo wooop , LOL

[Redrag52]

Let me ask yall this would yall go to harlem or some otha place in NYC and say "yall niggaz is fake,yall bangin incorect" and how many of yall is actually from a LA hood?

I tried but they dont care , they told me this is a eastcoast thing now we have our own rules here , they told me to stick with westcoast way of bloods , but later half them dudes came to me asking me where they was wrong at , so they know there doing it wrong , but they always get defensive first then they think about it , then they come say they dont want to look stupid saying some wrong sh-t out of town. whats the real ?

[Young Deuce]

Let me ask yall this would yall go to harlem or some otha place in NYC and say "yall niggaz is fake,yall bangin incorect" and how many of yall is actually from a LA hood?

I tried but they dont care , they told me this is a eastcoast thing now we have our own rules here , they told me to stick with westcoast way of bloods , but later half them dudes came to me asking me where they was wrong at , so they know there doing it wrong , but they always get defensive first then they think about it , then they come say they dont want to look stupid saying some wrong sh-t out of town. whats the real ?

i can believe that.....

[NICKELS]

IN NEWYORK YEAH I CAN BELIEVE THAT .....MAYBE NOT IN ST. LOUIS

[NICKELS]

YOUNG DEUCE - MY FAULT I READ YOUR POST WRONG , CAN AND CANT. GOT IT MIXED UP , MY FAULT DAWG. ITS TAKING SOME TIME BUT THERE REALIZIN THEY WERE LEARNIN SOME HYBRID SHIT. MAKING NYC LOOK FUGEZEEEEEE !!

[Noog]

OK, to me, a Londoner, this vid seems fakey - a London 'Crip' batch - the new(unwanted) flavour in London- I'm not down with it, its not London. Previously to the last few years, these youths were typical London mandem in a crew called Acre Lane Campaign from the Pepys Estate ( = projects) in South London, called same still but part of an apparent 'Cripset'. I don't get it. For me, in a sense I don't care if they are real or fake, because these youths are on a massive hype and pull at the lead to do the thing, so it doesn't matter to me if a kid is killed by a real or fake crip, the result is the same, a dead kid, another too many still...... B and C 'fashion' is now a global franchise, like it or not - should have been copywrited, originals could retire rich now. All said and done, its sad, a stupidity. Heres the suspect vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW33X5xGu4M

And though I like the tune a lot, this is the same tip - these boys are a local crew to me, called E5th Rydaz since time, from Nightingale Estate, Hackney E5, but now....sadly ...E5th Ryda Cripz..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZWcG2UYIS8

Like I said, global franchise, like it or not.

[Redrag52]

cherrio blooooood , top a the mornin to ya lass . LOL im going to europe to have with some tea bloods

[Richboy17]

cherrio blooooood , top a the mornin to ya lass . LOL im going to europe to have with some tea bloods

LOL, but blood and crip thing shit gone beyond where it was supposed to be. Who would ever think of bloods in Saigon or even London.

[NICKELS]

CRIPS AND BLOODS COME FROM A PRO BLACK ORIGIN TO PRO BLACK PRISON FACTIONS IN THE PENN TO A BUNCH OF OTHER RACES WHO ARE INFUENCED THROUGH MUSIC WHO DONT KNOW SHYT ABOUT BLACK GANGS EXCEPT THROUGH RAP MUSIC ....UHMMMM THE POWER OF BLACK CULTURE

[2faced]

yall are trip'n like you on some shit. it dont matter where u come from as long as you down
haha funny bunny

[NICKELS]

yall are trip'n like you on some shit. it dont matter where u come from as long as you down
haha funny bunny

NOW YOU KNOW THIS DUDE IS STUPID TO STREET LIFE ,