Nuestra Familia aka the NF

[~J~]

Palmas has been around for a long time, and from what I heard it started in the 1960's. HORSESHOE was always from WSSJ, and was started in the Pachuco days.

VNH is still around

I really doubt San Jo had any Varrios not Barrios in the 60's aside from a few Homies kicking back. Most Chicanos in San Jo were in the ES up until something in the 60's. The oldest Barrio in San Jo that I know of a Cesar Chavez's own "Sa Si Puedes" I heard through the grapevine from an old timer that they tried to be Pachucos out here but never really cut it compare to the LA Pachucos. A neighborhood Norteno verified that VNH is dufunct.

[MMRbkaRudog]

Palmas has been around for a long time, and from what I heard it started in the 1960's. HORSESHOE was always from WSSJ, and was started in the Pachuco days.

VNH is still around

I really doubt San Jo had any Varrios not Barrios in the 60's aside from a few Homies kicking back. Most Chicanos in San Jo were in the ES up until something in the 60's. The oldest Barrio in San Jo that I know of a Cesar Chavez's own "Sa Si Puedes" I heard through the grapevine from an old timer that they tried to be Pachucos out here but never really cut it compare to the LA Pachucos. A neighborhood Norteno verified that VNH is dufunct.

Varrio or barrio, is basically the same word. Was this eNe from VNH? I was recently locked up with some 1 from VNH, so I don't know why he would rep VNH if it was defunct. So how old are you J? I think I met a J, from NSSJ.

[~J~]

Palmas has been around for a long time, and from what I heard it started in the 1960's. HORSESHOE was always from WSSJ, and was started in the Pachuco days.

VNH is still around

I really doubt San Jo had any Varrios not Barrios in the 60's aside from a few Homies kicking back. Most Chicanos in San Jo were in the ES up until something in the 60's. The oldest Barrio in San Jo that I know of a Cesar Chavez's own "Sa Si Puedes" I heard through the grapevine from an old timer that they tried to be Pachucos out here but never really cut it compare to the LA Pachucos. A neighborhood Norteno verified that VNH is dufunct.

Varrio or barrio, is basically the same word. Was this eNe from VNH? I was recently locked up with some 1 from VNH, so I don't know why he would rep VNH if it was defunct. So how old are you J? I think I met a J, from NSSJ.

Barrio= A neighborhood where Mexican/Latino People reside in but can also be a name for a Latino Gang. Varrio=Chicano Gang. I'm sure the VNH Homies will claim their neighborhood as any other real Gangster would but the gang is inactive at least around their orginial neighborhood. Check it out: back it mid 90's when the Crack/Drug business was hot in NSSJ/Downtown San Jo, Brothas would come from the EPA-SF/Oakland area etc... to sell drugs-rock up and down 1st to 10th. Some SoCal Crips were trying to jock for position in NSSJ for doing drug business and guess what... it was VNH neighborhood. Them Crips did a drive-by with assault rifle (I don't know the full details) the Homies was there. I personality grown-up with him for a short time, but I stayed away from around gangs until my mid-late teen. VNH hangout was Baskesto Park & more toward Downtown where to drive-by happened. I'm in 20's + VNS is the oldest Downtown/NSSJ Varrio that I know of, they merged with VNH sometime around early-mid 90's I've not seem any striking or VNH Homies actively banging for some years or many Nortenos for that matter...

[MMRbkaRudog]

Palmas has been around for a long time, and from what I heard it started in the 1960's. HORSESHOE was always from WSSJ, and was started in the Pachuco days.

VNH is still around

I really doubt San Jo had any Varrios not Barrios in the 60's aside from a few Homies kicking back. Most Chicanos in San Jo were in the ES up until something in the 60's. The oldest Barrio in San Jo that I know of a Cesar Chavez's own "Sa Si Puedes" I heard through the grapevine from an old timer that they tried to be Pachucos out here but never really cut it compare to the LA Pachucos. A neighborhood Norteno verified that VNH is dufunct.

Varrio or barrio, is basically the same word. Was this eNe from VNH? I was recently locked up with some 1 from VNH, so I don't know why he would rep VNH if it was defunct. So how old are you J? I think I met a J, from NSSJ.

Barrio= A neighborhood where Mexican/Latino People reside in but can also be a name for a Latino Gang. Varrio=Chicano Gang. I'm sure the VNH Homies will claim their neighborhood as any other real Gangster would but the gang is inactive at least around their orginial neighborhood. Check it out: back it mid 90's when the Crack/Drug business was hot in NSSJ/Downtown San Jo, Brothas would come from the EPA-SF/Oakland area etc... to sell drugs-rock up and down 1st to 10th. Some SoCal Crips were trying to jock for position in NSSJ for doing drug business and guess what... it was VNH neighborhood. Them Crips did a drive-by with assault rifle (I don't know the full details) the Homies was there. I personality grown-up with him for a short time, but I stayed away from around gangs until my mid-late teen. VNH hangout was Baskesto Park & more toward Downtown where to drive-by happened. I'm in 20's + VNS is the oldest Downtown/NSSJ Varrio that I know of, they merged with VNH sometime around early-mid 90's I've not seem any striking or VNH Homies actively banging for some years or many Nortenos for that matter...

Varrio can be for a neighborhood too. I'm in my 20's too & 25 to be exact. Did you go to college? I went to a school in SF for a semester.

[~J~]

Varrio can be for a neighborhood too. I'm in my 20's too & 25 to be exact. Did you go to college? I went to a school in SF for a semester.

I've not been up to SF for sometime. Man, I can remember them SF fools talking a lot of mess on San Jo cruising nights. although Rap/Hip-Hop has changed a lot of so-called Nortenos today under +-25 years of age. do they still trip on San Jo Gangsters in SF these days?

Let's take a stroll down memory lane in Downtown-NorthSide San Jose: Do you remember Taco Bell on 6th and Santa Clara? the Brothas hanging around the Liquor Store/Winchell's Donuts on 4th-5th and Santa Clara? let's go back further, I can remember when what's now consider North San Jose were Cherry Orchards and fields, Downtown (though a little before my time Hookers and Pimps on 1st, you may of heard the joke: Your mom works on 1st St.) and St. James Park were ran down with Winos and the Mission/Shelter was on going in NSSJ with the Guardian Angels on the stroll, there was no Hi-tech Companies and Alviso wasn't San Jose. There use be a kind of big Water Fountain on 3rd and Paseo De San Antonio. The most Northern Residential part of San Jose into the 80's not including the Orchard Farms and Fields was the Gish/Rosemary neighborhood. Man...

[pistolslanga]

Varrio can be for a neighborhood too. I'm in my 20's too & 25 to be exact. Did you go to college? I went to a school in SF for a semester.

I've not been up to SF for sometime. Man, I can remember them SF fools talking a lot of mess on San Jo cruising nights. although Rap/Hip-Hop has changed a lot of so-called Nortenos today under +-25 years of age. do they still trip on San Jo Gangsters in SF these days?

Let's take a stroll down memory lane in Downtown-NorthSide San Jose: Do you remember Taco Bell on 6th and Santa Clara? the Brothas hanging around the Liquor Store/Winchell's Donuts on 4th-5th and Santa Clara? let's go back further, I can remember when what's now consider North San Jose were Cherry Orchards and fields, Downtown (though a little before my time Hookers and Pimps on 1st, you may of heard the joke: Your mom works on 1st St.) and St. James Park were ran down with Winos and the Mission/Shelter was on going in NSSJ with the Guardian Angels on the stroll, there was no Hi-tech Companies and Alviso wasn't San Jose. There use be a kind of big Water Fountain on 3rd and Paseo De San Antonio. The most Northern Residential part of San Jose into the 80's not including the Orchard Farms and Fields was the Gish/Rosemary neighborhood. Man...

naw i got a homie whos from mission in SF, he said he dont trip, i doubt they trip

[MMRbkaRudog]

Varrio can be for a neighborhood too. I'm in my 20's too & 25 to be exact. Did you go to college? I went to a school in SF for a semester.

I've not been up to SF for sometime. Man, I can remember them SF fools talking a lot of mess on San Jo cruising nights. although Rap/Hip-Hop has changed a lot of so-called Nortenos today under +-25 years of age. do they still trip on San Jo Gangsters in SF these days?

Let's take a stroll down memory lane in Downtown-NorthSide San Jose: Do you remember Taco Bell on 6th and Santa Clara? the Brothas hanging around the Liquor Store/Winchell's Donuts on 4th-5th and Santa Clara? let's go back further, I can remember when what's now consider North San Jose were Cherry Orchards and fields, Downtown (though a little before my time Hookers and Pimps on 1st, you may of heard the joke: Your mom works on 1st St.) and St. James Park were ran down with Winos and the Mission/Shelter was on going in NSSJ with the Guardian Angels on the stroll, there was no Hi-tech Companies and Alviso wasn't San Jose. There use be a kind of big Water Fountain on 3rd and Paseo De San Antonio. The most Northern Residential part of San Jose into the 80's not including the Orchard Farms and Fields was the Gish/Rosemary neighborhood. Man...

I remember some of that stuff. I think the undercovers made it bad to be hooking or Johning on 1st.

[~J~]

naw i got a homie whos from mission in SF, he said he dont trip, i doubt they trip

Yeah, Nortenos are way more united than Surenos and usually cool with each other. Now that I think about it wasn't Nortenos it was just some SF fools I didn't get specific. I guess the "United Nation of Nortenos" speaks for it self.

[~J~]

Where are you at Jupebox? I got some more old~school San Jose graffiti stuff to talk about...

[Bassettsgv]

you ever heard of a Sur Gang called VTG Tamilee Gangsters or some like that in san Jo ?? I met some vato they call Casper from that hood ...

[~J~]

you ever heard of a Sur Gang called VTG Tamilee Gangsters or some like that in san Jo ?? I met some vato they call Casper from that hood ...

Are we friends again? lucky for you, I'm usually a pretty level headed dude. I really don't know much about them, I think they're called Barrio Tamilee Gangsters? they are somewhere around SE San Jo, according to my cousin who was banging SUR for a quick second in the late 90's.

[Bassettsgv]

I lived in San Jo for some time back in 05 .. I used to chill with some of the vatos from Poco Way 13 most of em where old foos like in their late 20's or mid 30's i read some where in the net that their inactive ?? i'm doubpting that cause them vatos seemed like they had pretty good numbers and all ??/

[~J~]

I lived in San Jo for some time back in 05 .. I used to chill with some of the vatos from Poco Way 13 most of em where old foos like in their late 20's or mid 30's i read some where in the net that their inactive ?? i'm doubpting that cause them vatos seemed like they had pretty good numbers and all ??/

Anyone who knew anything about gangs in San Jo in the 90's heard of Poco Way, their varrio was cleaned up by a gang injunction, I think in the late 90's. they had to hold their ground firm because they caught a lot of heat from Nortenos and cops.

[MMRbkaRudog]

Poco Way LS moved to another location and I heard of VTG.

[Bassettsgv]

I lived in San JO for a Hot Year i saw my share of Crazy stuff up there .. I recall a time we went to a Chucky cheese by a freeway in san jo and we got hit up by some Nortes From a hood called palmas or some like that .. i also remember about a norte gang called Meadowfair always taggin up Poco Way and stuff like that .. i got alot of love n respect for all them Poco Way Locos their some real firme vatos .. they need to recruit some pee wees to have a new generation ..

[~J~]

I lived in San JO for a Hot Year i saw my share of Crazy stuff up there .. I recall a time we went to a Chucky cheese by a freeway in san jo and we got hit up by some Nortes From a hood called palmas or some like that .. i also remember about a norte gang called Meadowfair always taggin up Poco Way and stuff like that .. i got alot of love n respect for all them Poco Way Locos their some real firme vatos .. they need to recruit some pee wees to have a new generation ..

Meadowfair was ESH old stomping ground. I do know that's an ES neighborhood, but I don't know about the Meadowfair gangs these days if there's any.

[~J~]

Let's take a stroll down memory lane in Downtown-NorthSide San Jose: Do you remember Taco Bell on 6th and Santa Clara? the Brothas hanging around the Liquor Store/Winchell's Donuts on 4th-5th and Santa Clara? let's go back further, I can remember when what's now consider North San Jose were Cherry Orchards and fields, Downtown (though a little before my time Hookers and Pimps on 1st, you may of heard the joke: Your mom works on 1st St.) and St. James Park were ran down with Winos and the Mission/Shelter was on going in NSSJ with the Guardian Angels on the stroll, there was no Hi-tech Companies and Alviso wasn't San Jose. There use be a kind of big Water Fountain on 3rd and Paseo De San Antonio. The most Northern Residential part of San Jose into the 80's not including the Orchard Farms and Fields was the Gish/Rosemary neighborhood. Man...

Let me make some small corrections, Alviso was annexed to San Jose in 68' but you'd not know it because of how the city neglected it. the Rosemary neighborhood is officially called "Rosemary Gardens" I through in the /Gish because it's the main street known there.

[Bassettsgv]

EY J IS THAT ONE SPOT CALLED LA TROPICANA STILL WHERE ALL THE SURENOS GO TO CHILL OUT AT ? WHAT BOUT THE FLEA MARKET ON BERRYESSA I REMEMBER THE POCO WAY HOMIES AND I USED TO GO THERE TO STIRR SOME SHIT UP .. IS PALMAS STILL ON THEIR MISSION TO KILL ALL THE SAN JO SURENOS ... DAMM DOG I KINDA MISS THEM SAN JO DAYS ..

[~J~]

"United Nation of Nortenos"

This is not the official meaning of N.O.R.T.E of course.

[~J~]

EY J IS THAT ONE SPOT CALLED LA TROPICANA STILL WHERE ALL THE SURENOS GO TO CHILL OUT AT ? WHAT BOUT THE FLEA MARKET ON BERRYESSA I REMEMBER THE POCO WAY HOMIES AND I USED TO GO THERE TO STIRR SOME SHIT UP .. IS PALMAS STILL ON THEIR MISSION TO KILL ALL THE SAN JO SURENOS ... DAMM DOG I KINDA MISS THEM SAN JO DAYS ..

The city was trying to kick out the Gente out from their Tropicana shops but they stood firm so the city didn't succeed, I'm pretty sure you'll see a Sureno there every now and then. I've not been to the Berryessa Flea Market for sometime but yeah, there are Surenos there. as far as Palmas, I asumming they are doing what Nortenos do, I don't know anything what they are doing these days.

[ntenseLIFEstyle]

Poco way sur never kicked it in pocoway. They always be chilling at the PK store area or on the corner of outside of pocoway in the 80's and mid 90's. Everytime they roll through pocoway they get checked by the cambodian's. They didnt start gaining weight until the late 90's when all the cambodian's got kick out and the city remodel pocoway.

They had a few firm vato but a lot of them were rankers.

LA TROPICANA - That place is all remodel. Looks very nice now.

Meadowfair- they have a lot of pee wees

Palmas- They be up in the Alum Arock area. Had a few homie's from there.

[Bassettsgv]

from the time i spent over there in san jo i stay on those apartments on Lido Way a couple of dudes from Poco Way Lived there The rest Lived in Poco Way or in the apartments there .. I remember there was CRIP GANG THERE TOO THE P-TOWN CRIPS.. I REMEMBER THIS ON DUDE FROM PALMAS WAS A STARIGHT RANKER USED TO PUNK ON LIL 13 YR OLDS AND THAT FOO WAS LIKE 25 TILL HE GOT CHECKED ..

[~J~]

Poco way sur never kicked it in pocoway. They always be chilling at the PK store area or on the corner of outside of pocoway in the 80's and mid 90's. Everytime they roll through pocoway they get checked by the cambodian's. They didnt start gaining weight until the late 90's when all the cambodian's got kick out and the city remodel pocoway.

They had a few firm vato but a lot of them were rankers.

LA TROPICANA - That place is all remodel. Looks very nice now.

Meadowfair- they have a lot of pee wees

Palmas- They be up in the Alum Arock area. Had a few homie's from there.

Yeah, I couldn't verify that but that's all you'd hear Nortenos said in those days, we checked them Poco Way fools. so they were never exact in Poco Way. I went to school with an EHP Vato named "Gordo" from 92-94 do you happen to know him? he should be around 30, I think he lived in Little Portugal or in the Mayfair Neighborhood.

[Bassettsgv]

you dudes know a norteno called Grumpy from Flamagan or some like that ??

[ntenseLIFEstyle]

Poco way sur never kicked it in pocoway. They always be chilling at the PK store area or on the corner of outside of pocoway in the 80's and mid 90's. Everytime they roll through pocoway they get checked by the cambodian's. They didnt start gaining weight until the late 90's when all the cambodian's got kick out and the city remodel pocoway.

They had a few firm vato but a lot of them were rankers.

LA TROPICANA - That place is all remodel. Looks very nice now.

Meadowfair- they have a lot of pee wees

Palmas- They be up in the Alum Arock area. Had a few homie's from there.

Yeah, I couldn't verify that but that's all you'd hear Nortenos said in those days, we checked them Poco Way fools. so they were never exact in Poco Way. I went to school with an EHP Vato named "Gordo" from 92-94 do you happen to know him? he should be around 30, I think he lived in Little Portugal or in the Mayfair Neighborhood.

Nortenos be always rolling around pocoway area. Story Rd and King is the main crusing street back in the 90's. Every Norte I bump into back in the days be asking "where the scrap at".

EHP?Gordo? I wouldnt know. Mayfair Neighborhood- I remember me and my homeboy would get jump all the time by some norte when coming home from Mayfair school. When we made it to the over path , that goes over the 680 highway it was all cool after that.

[ntenseLIFEstyle]

from the time i spent over there in san jo i stay on those apartments on Lido Way a couple of dudes from Poco Way Lived there The rest Lived in Poco Way or in the apartments there .. I remember there was CRIP GANG THERE TOO THE P-TOWN CRIPS.. I REMEMBER THIS ON DUDE FROM PALMAS WAS A STARIGHT RANKER USED TO PUNK ON LIL 13 YR OLDS AND THAT FOO WAS LIKE 25 TILL HE GOT CHECKED ..

Lido Way? That by the King Burger/ gas station place.

PTC- A bunch of youngsta.. Before that Pocoway was all CWA

You go to p-town now its all clean up.

[Bassettsgv]

POCO WAY APTS IS FULL OF CRIPS AND SURENOS MY HOMEBOY LIVES THERE AND SAYS THEY BOTH GET ALONG JUST FINE .. LIDO WAY IS JUST OF KIND ROAD BY VIRGINIA .. A WHOLE BUNCH CLANTONERS LIVE THERE IF IM NOT MISTAKEN I THINK THATS WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR HOOD..

[~J~]

Story Rd and King is the main crusing street back in the 90's.

So was all along Santa Clara St. all the way to Story and King Rd.

[ntenseLIFEstyle]

POCO WAY APTS IS FULL OF CRIPS AND SURENOS MY HOMEBOY LIVES THERE AND SAYS THEY BOTH GET ALONG JUST FINE .. LIDO WAY IS JUST OF KIND ROAD BY VIRGINIA .. A WHOLE BUNCH CLANTONERS LIVE THERE IF IM NOT MISTAKEN I THINK THATS WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR HOOD..

Lodo Way is 2 blocks down from pocoway,. Virginia St is on the other side of 680 by the Police Athletic League Park.
Maybe the youngsta that live there now, are cool with them. My cousins are the one who started PTC and from what I recall they never got along with no southsider from pocoway. But than again it been year since I've seen them.

[ntenseLIFEstyle]

Story Rd and King is the main crusing street back in the 90's.

So was all along Santa Clara St. all the way to Story and King Rd.

Santa Clara St aint no jock on cinco de mayo!! ahhaha

[Bassettsgv]

POCO WAY IS MOSTLY OLDER FOOS LIKE IN THEIR LATE 20'S OR MID 30'S THEY GOT A COUPLE OF PEEWEES I KNOW A HAND FULL OF EM LIKE SPOOKY , GOOFY , CHINO , CYCO THEY ALL WENT TO INDEPENDENCE HIGH SCHOOL ON THE EAST SIDE .. POCO WAY AINT LIKE THEY USED TO BE BUT THEY STILL BE HOLDING IT DOWN .. WHEN EVER I TALK TO MY DOGS FROM UP NORTH THEY ALWAYS BE TALKING ABOUT VST MALOS AND CLANTON ..

[ntenseLIFEstyle]

Vst had some crazy fool that live in rockspring.. CLANTON? That something new to me. How Deep is Clanton in san jose?