
word !!!!same here...but as far as i know berber are more white nowaday than blacc period and sentenza who propably know more about them than dickels and his internet encyclopedia ...those people traditional costume dance food ,those people language culture and way of writting is not comin from south but north ...now all this can be said without diss and gay ass shit ...A Ghost wrote:All this "black" "white" garbage is all just BS
Its only a way to divide people.
F#ck that, Im cool with anybody as long as they dont mess with me.

A Ghost wrote:All this "black" "white" garbage is all just BS
Its only a way to divide people.
F#ck that, Im cool with anybody as long as they dont mess with me.

NICKELS wrote:A Ghost wrote:All this "black" "white" garbage is all just BS
Its only a way to divide people.
F#ck that, Im cool with anybody as long as they dont mess with me.
AGREED ........ITS JUST SOME DUMB FUCHS , JUST DONT KNOW WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT , THEY BELIEVE EVERYTHING , WITH OUT DIGGING FOR THE TRUTH ,, LIKE BGFAGGOT - FROM OVERSEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS , I KNOW THEY HAVE LIBRARIES , OH THATS RIGHT ONLY " EUROPEAN " WRITTEN BOOKS ON HISTORY

bgcasper wrote:but as far as i know berber are more white nowaday than black period and sentenza who propably know more about them than dickels and his internet encyclopedia ...those people traditional costume dance food ,those people language culture and way of writting is not comin from south but north ...now all this can be said without diss and gay ass shit ...
MiChuhSuh wrote:bgcasper wrote:but as far as i know berber are more white nowaday than black period and sentenza who propably know more about them than dickels and his internet encyclopedia ...those people traditional costume dance food ,those people language culture and way of writting is not comin from south but north ...now all this can be said without diss and gay ass shit ...
People are in whatever category you choose to put them, because race divisions within the SAME SUBSPECIES (homo sapiens sapiens) is an artificial division from SOCIOLOGY, not biology. All divisions are arbitrary, so this argument between NICKELS and bgcasper is pointless. It's like arguing over whose imagination is more scientifically correct - you make up your own impressions of groups people.
bgcasper probably has more experience with Berbers than most of us in the US, which still doesn't make it more valid when it comes to IMAGINARY LINES among groups of people.
I could say Berbers aren't white or black, but purple, and still be as valid in my categorization. Why is this color "black" and why is this color "red"? Because we feel like calling it that, and there is no real reason. I could call this color "boink" instead of orange and it would make just as much sense.


A Ghost wrote:Whats a berber?


lololol homie u know the deal ...lololol i vbeen bangin on 3 pj at the same time cause of the kabyl pride .they dont purely hate arabs they feel close in a way also but feel like arabs are not str8 and dont follow their words thats the main reason why we had to go against 3 pj mostly tunisian and algerian but arabs ..they are still persecuted in algeria by arabs ..the kabyle re very str8 people and are known to follow their words ...when my homie was sayin they took one of us we take 13 ... out of a kabyl mouth u can be sure that the homie wasnt goin tostop untill cops stop him or 13 enemie bite the concreat...they did transfor myset into a family and i can tell u this when a berber becomes your brother its deep real and no joke but alway remember a berber can forgive but will never forgetSentenza wrote:Berber do not equal Arabs though. My friend from Algeria is a Kabyl Berber too and he told me how they used to have huge brawls all the time with the Arabs back in the days, cause the arabs tried to oppress the Berbers.

bgcasper wrote:A Ghost wrote:Whats a berber?
http://myspace-132.vo.llnwd.net/01377/2 ... 2132_l.jpg
the one in the back holdin both my shoulder'' me being the guy with the southside caps ''
this guy is 10000percent berber from the mountain of small kabyli in algeria from bedjaya tribes
the one sitting on the byke he from moroco and half berber from the slheuh tribe
the one in the front is from the shaoui berber tribe in algeria the one with the fake locs on the back is from the kabyle
ethink wich are berber and he is from the big kabyli tizi ouzou tribe ..the black brotha being from guadalupe he carabean from french west indies ....and in the back with gloves its me ...

NICKELS wrote: THERE BLACK - AFRO ASIATIC
In general, genetic evidence appears to indicate that most north Africans (whether they consider themselves Berber or Arab) are predominantly of Berber Afro-Asiatic origin, and that populations ancestral to the Berbers have been in the area since the Upper Paleolithic era. Significant proportions of both the Berber and Arabized Berber gene pools derive from more recent migration of various Africans, and all other intruders who have left their genetic footprints in the region. Merriam-Webster defines "Berber" as "a branch" of the "Afro-Asiatic family".
For many centuries the Berbers inhabited the coast of North Africa from Egypt to the Atlantic Ocean. Over time, the coastal regions of North Africa saw a long parade of invaders, settlers,[3] and colonists including Phoenicians (who founded Carthage), Greeks (mainly in Cyrene, Libya), Romans, Vandals and Alans, Byzantines, Arabs, Ottomans, and the French and Spanish. Most if not all of these invaders have left some imprint upon the modern Berbers as have slaves brought from Southern Europe to the Barbary Coast by Barbary pirates (one estimate places the number of Europeans brought to North Africa during the Ottoman period as high as 1.25 million)[2]. Interactions with neighboring Sudanic empires, sub-Saharan Africans, and nomads from East Africa also left vast impressions upon the Berber peoples.Kingdom has attracted controversy in the past: particularly at the time of the 2001 Census where the existence and nature of such a classification, which appeared on the Census form, became more widely known than general.
READ IT AGAIN , MY PONIT MADE NUFF SAID ...........THERE IS NO NATIVE WHITE AFRICAN TRIBE , THERE ARE PRESENTLY TODAY DESCENDANTS OF INVADERS FROM OUTSIDE AFRICA WHO BREEDED OUT THE ORIGIANL AFRICAN PEOPLE WHO NAME WAS CHANGED TO THE BERBER BY EUROPEANS , WICH MEANS BARBARIAN ........TOPIC CLOSED

NICKELS wrote: THERE BLACK - AFRO ASIATIC
In general, genetic evidence appears to indicate that most north Africans (whether they consider themselves Berber or Arab) are predominantly of Berber Afro-Asiatic origin, and that populations ancestral to the Berbers have been in the area since the Upper Paleolithic era. Significant proportions of both the Berber and Arabized Berber gene pools derive from more recent migration of various Africans, and all other intruders who have left their genetic footprints in the region. Merriam-Webster defines "Berber" as "a branch" of the "Afro-Asiatic family".
For many centuries the Berbers inhabited the coast of North Africa from Egypt to the Atlantic Ocean. Over time, the coastal regions of North Africa saw a long parade of invaders, settlers,[3] and colonists including Phoenicians (who founded Carthage), Greeks (mainly in Cyrene, Libya), Romans, Vandals and Alans, Byzantines, Arabs, Ottomans, and the French and Spanish. Most if not all of these invaders have left some imprint upon the modern Berbers as have slaves brought from Southern Europe to the Barbary Coast by Barbary pirates (one estimate places the number of Europeans brought to North Africa during the Ottoman period as high as 1.25 million)[2]. Interactions with neighboring Sudanic empires, sub-Saharan Africans, and nomads from East Africa also left vast impressions upon the Berber peoples.Kingdom has attracted controversy in the past: particularly at the time of the 2001 Census where the existence and nature of such a classification, which appeared on the Census form, became more widely known than general.
READ IT AGAIN , MY PONIT MADE NUFF SAID ...........THERE IS NO NATIVE WHITE AFRICAN TRIBE , THERE ARE PRESENTLY TODAY DESCENDANTS OF INVADERS FROM OUTSIDE AFRICA WHO BREEDED OUT THE ORIGIANL AFRICAN PEOPLE WHO NAME WAS CHANGED TO THE BERBER BY EUROPEANS , WICH MEANS BARBARIAN ........TOPIC CLOSED

Sentenza wrote:NICKELS wrote:A Ghost wrote:All this "black" "white" garbage is all just BS
Its only a way to divide people.
F#ck that, Im cool with anybody as long as they dont mess with me.
AGREED ........ITS JUST SOME DUMB FUCHS , JUST DONT KNOW WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT , THEY BELIEVE EVERYTHING , WITH OUT DIGGING FOR THE TRUTH ,, LIKE BGFAGGOT - FROM OVERSEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS , I KNOW THEY HAVE LIBRARIES , OH THATS RIGHT ONLY " EUROPEAN " WRITTEN BOOKS ON HISTORY
You are right, that many mainstream historians have a eurocentric point of view, but there are definitely those who try to keep it real and try to clean up the racist mess of the past. And i can tell you, at my school i had teachers from all around the world, Togo, Tanzania, USA, Turkey, Libanon and so on and that was good cause it helps you getting a more objective picture of things.
You just have to dig a little deeper then most people are willing to, but the truth is out there, even over here in Europe. And there are also many people who are willing to express it.


there 's no gun on that pic as u c no ???i did more than one pic in my life ...u talkin about the one with 2 38 ??A Ghost wrote:bgcasper wrote:A Ghost wrote:Whats a berber?
http://myspace-132.vo.llnwd.net/01377/2 ... 2132_l.jpg
the one in the back holdin both my shoulder'' me being the guy with the southside caps ''
this guy is 10000percent berber from the mountain of small kabyli in algeria from bedjaya tribes
the one sitting on the byke he from moroco and half berber from the slheuh tribe
the one in the front is from the shaoui berber tribe in algeria the one with the fake locs on the back is from the kabyle
ethink wich are berber and he is from the big kabyli tizi ouzou tribe ..the black brotha being from guadalupe he carabean from french west indies ....and in the back with gloves its me ...
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I thought you were the guy with the revolver?

no we aint surenos not a single mex in the set its 90 per cent african people as u consider berber tribe african!!!!!!or african lookin like mexican ???oh they look surenos to u now ????u should step on the same foot dummy cause ur posts are in constant contradiction ...on one u was sayin beber was africans and know u klown the berber sayin they look like sureno wanna be mexican lololol dummass ....NICKELS wrote:MY FAULT I TAKE THAT BACK , YA LOOK LIKE A ....SOUTHSIDE 13 " SURENO " WANNBEEE MEXICAN GANG , FROM EUROPE.........



actually we dont wear 3xxxxxlwhite t shrt we dont sagg we dont wear baggys so i can agree on us bein'' influenced''by the westcoast at one point of our history but nowaaaay u can't call us copycat cause our link with the us came from one dude... and he came in the project mid 80's and from there the copycat shit stopped and the local culture took over and things are waaaay diferent there now as we speak .we never pk or bk we started as skinhead killa gang and baby blackpanters but the french blackpanters were against racism and had no connection with the u.s and was active from75 to 85 so therefore the way things went have nun to do with the u.s.a ....plus we own 2 pj'sand those pj's are not bangin cali way they are fightin against other pj in a movement call ''racaille'' who have nun todo with your cali culture ..lol but anyway if a culture was copycated it wasnt the sureno or the american one...but the afroamerican's one wich is no shame comin' from us ...being mostly africans and sons of people enslaved during french colonies our ancestors did somehow have sum shit in comon with them afroamericans ..thats the way most of my peopledothink..mostly they got no love for amerikkka as u imagine them being mostly africans and muslim they dont feel like siding with the kkk like the surenos and they got zeroluv for bush ... but on the otha hand do feel minority's from there as close to themNICKELS wrote:YOU ARE TRULY A DUMB AZZ , I NEVER SAID ANYBODY WAS MEXICAN ......." I SAID LOOK LIKE " THAT MEANS RESEMBLE BECAUSE OF THE 13 SOUTHSIDE A MEXICAN SET.....NOT THAT YOU ARE , YOUR SLOW TO READING AND COMPREHENSION
I SAID ANCIENT TRIBES OF BERBERS WERE ORIGNALY NATIVE AFRICAN , WICH I SHOWED YOU PROOF, BUT YOUR TOO SLOW TO CATCH ON TO THAT TOO . BEFORE BEING BREEDED OUT TO WHAT YOU SEE TODAY , WITH THE HEAVY INFLUX OF INVADERS OVER A THOUSAND YEARS OR MORE , OF ARABS AND EUROPEANS , SEMETICS
TODAY BERBERS ARE MOSTLY ARABS AND EUROPEANS AND MIX DESCENDANTS , THE ORIGINALS WERE BREEDED OUT , GO READ EARLIER POST UNTIL IT SINKS INTO THAT ROCK YOU CALL A BRAIN . AND ONCE AGAIN THERE ARE NO NATIVE WHITE TRIBES FROM AFRICAN DUMB AZZ....
ONLY PEOPLE WHO INVADED OR MIGRATED TO AFRICA AND LIVED THERE OVER THE CENTURIES LIKE ARABS
AND IF YOU ARE FROM EUROPE PARIS , AND YOU SAID YA HAVE YA OWN STRUGGLE AND CULTURE .....WHY COPY AMERICAN CULTURE , RIGHT ??? FROM THAT PICTURE YA LOOK LIKE WANNABEES SUCKIN AMERICAN STREET LIFE , ONCE AGAIN , TRYING TO LOOK LIKE SURENOS , CAUSE THOSE , PRESENT DAY BERBERS OR ARABS RESMBLE MEXICANS......EXCEPT THE FRENCH CARIBEAN BLACK DUDE OF NATIVE AFRICAN DESCENT !! .....TO EXACT FOR YOU , FAKE EUROPEAN SURENO ,



NICKELS wrote:SKIN HEAD KILLA GANGS IS SOME FLY SHYT THOUGH ,![]()
AND BLACK PANTHERS IN FRANCE ????? ....WHOA I NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE , IN AMERICA THERE PRO - BLACK , THERE WAS GROUPS THAT COPIED THE PANTHERS WITH THERE VERSION FOR THERE OWN PEOPLE

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