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Postby pistolslanga » August 24th, 2007, 8:31 am

Bassettsgv wrote:[align=left]yea, #%@& that dumb shit, homie but you gonna see these lil highschoolers try to punk ya, well see watts up, i dont play with life or gangbangin shit so i dont say its a game ya know? i know a couple spots where i seen some nortenos hang, hey though imma have to get outta here, gonna go to oakland real quick with my homie to cook up, ill talk to ya tomorrow

and hey, some fools dont learn even when they get a beatdown, you gotta handle fools who have no respect, respect is a key in everything, respect, and honor.[align=center]


Oakland huh ? I used to smoke with some vato From South Side Locos from the 510 .. n like a month after we blazed he got shot :shock: i've heard oakland aint no joke ive also seen people compare it to Comptone :shock: ...



the town gets crazy, the west and the east, i got back at bout 3 in the morning today, fools around there get killed with the quickness over dice games, people drop like flies there everyday, because of the rising norteno vs sureno in norcal, + the old native oakland gangs beef, fools there arent beefing over bloods and crips, their hustling and just trying to make money.
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Postby Bassettsgv » August 24th, 2007, 10:55 am

the town gets crazy, the west and the east, i got back at bout 3 in the morning today, fools around there get killed with the quickness over dice games, people drop like flies there everyday, because of the rising norteno vs sureno in norcal, + the old native oakland gangs beef, fools there arent beefing over bloods and crips, their hustling and just trying to make money.


u know that theres Tortilla Flats in Oakland right , at first i didnt believe it but then i met a vato from T-Flats Sporting a 510 A Town Tatt :shock:
they aslo have a LOMAS 13 Gang over there originaly from the SGV Lomas area .. :shock:
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Postby Bassettsgv » August 24th, 2007, 10:58 am

[quote]HERE ARE SOME VARRIO HORSESHOE WESTSIDE HOMIES IF NOT ALL OF THEM[quote]

yeah the few vatos that i met claimng VHS were pretty much Old vatos like in their late 20's late 30's ect ... never really saw any youngsters ..
EHP had a lot of youngsters compared to VHS , i used to see them posted at a taqueria called el mexicano by alum rock ...
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Postby pistolslanga » August 24th, 2007, 11:02 am

Bassettsgv wrote:
the town gets crazy, the west and the east, i got back at bout 3 in the morning today, fools around there get killed with the quickness over dice games, people drop like flies there everyday, because of the rising norteno vs sureno in norcal, + the old native oakland gangs beef, fools there arent beefing over bloods and crips, their hustling and just trying to make money.


u know that theres Tortilla Flats in Oakland right , at first i didnt believe it but then i met a vato from T-Flats Sporting a 510 A Town Tatt :shock:
they aslo have a LOMAS 13 Gang over there originaly from the SGV Lomas area .. :shock:


shiiet thats crazy, the spots i been at i dont see many latinos, its just some crazy muthafukkas selling dope playing dicegames, couple my homies from ws/o jumped a cop a day ago, fools were braggin bout it shit
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Postby Bassettsgv » August 24th, 2007, 11:09 am

ha i saw a vid on youtube , some gays ass reporter ask these black dudes how he can get a strap in oakland and them vatos are like gimmie 25o n i can get u a gun haha that shit had me rollin
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Postby pistolslanga » August 24th, 2007, 11:17 am

Bassettsgv wrote:ha i saw a vid on youtube , some gays ass reporter ask these black dudes how he can get a strap in oakland and them vatos are like gimmie 25o n i can get u a gun haha that shit had me rollin



haha yea i seen that, that was in ESO

those reporters are fukkin annoyin though
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Postby ~J~ » August 24th, 2007, 3:51 pm

Bassettsgv wrote:yeah the few vatos that i met claimng VHS were pretty much Old vatos like in their late 20's late 30's ect ... never really saw any youngsters ..
EHP had a lot of youngsters compared to VHS , i used to see them posted at a taqueria called el mexicano by alum rock ...
It looks like a couple of generations of Horseshoers on those pictures. I think VHS not doing much these days has to do with them needing to establish a new generation. again, I think their youngest estabished generation is already +25 to 30+ years old. so... they got family and other things etc... to worry about, that's not to said they are not from the varrio anymore... on the contrary.

So these VHS vatos didnt trip on you because you're a youngster and or you met them with respect?
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Postby Bassettsgv » August 24th, 2007, 6:20 pm

So these VHS vatos didnt trip on you because you're a youngster and or you met them with respect?


I met two Vatos from VHS at the Small Flea Market in San Jo , I remember one of them came up to me and asked me if i was banging SUR at the time i wasnt gang banging yet so i just told hin "nah" but im from Sol cal so you can imagine on which side of the tracks im on and the vato was respectful and just shook my hand said thats cool and just kept on walkin , later that day he sold my uncle some bud infront where u buy the ticket to get in ... I used too see them hanging out at some apartments by Capitol road or dirve i cant remember but most of them were old ..
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Postby Bassettsgv » August 24th, 2007, 6:20 pm

So these VHS vatos didnt trip on you because you're a youngster and or you met them with respect?


I met two Vatos from VHS at the Small Flea Market in San Jo , I remember one of them came up to me and asked me if i was banging SUR at the time i wasnt gang banging yet so i just told hin "nah" but im from Sol cal so you can imagine on which side of the tracks im on and the vato was respectful and just shook my hand said thats cool and just kept on walkin , later that day he sold my uncle some bud infront where u buy the ticket to get in ... I used too see them hanging out at some apartments by Capitol road or dirve i cant remember but most of them were old ..
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Postby Bassettsgv » August 24th, 2007, 6:21 pm

I met two Vatos from VHS at the Small Flea Market in San Jo , I remember one of them came up to me and asked me if i was banging SUR at the time i wasnt gang banging yet so i just told hin "nah" but im from Sol cal so you can imagine on which side of the tracks im on and the vato was respectful and just shook my hand said thats cool and just kept on walkin , later that day he sold my uncle some bud infront where u buy the ticket to get in ... I used too see them hanging out at some apartments by Capitol road or dirve i cant remember but most of them were old ..
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Postby Bassettsgv » August 24th, 2007, 6:22 pm

I met two Vatos from VHS at the Small Flea Market in San Jo , I remember one of them came up to me and asked me if i was banging SUR at the time i wasnt gang banging yet so i just told hin "nah" but im from Sol cal so you can imagine on which side of the tracks im on and the vato was respectful and just shook my hand said thats cool and just kept on walkin , later that day he sold my uncle some bud infront where u buy the ticket to get in ... I used too see them hanging out at some apartments by Capitol road or dirve i cant remember but most of them were old ..
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Postby Bassettsgv » August 24th, 2007, 6:24 pm

So these VHS vatos didnt trip on you because you're a youngster and or you met them with respect?


I met two Vatos from VHS at the Small Flea Market in San Jo , I remember one of them came up to me and asked me if i was banging SUR at the time i wasnt gang banging yet so i just told hin "nah" but im from Sol cal so you can imagine on which side of the tracks im on and the vato was respectful and just shook my hand said thats cool and just kept on walkin , later that day he sold my uncle some bud infront where u buy the ticket to get in ... I used too see them hanging out at some apartments by Capitol road or dirve i cant remember but most of them were old ..
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Postby KollmarVago408 » August 25th, 2007, 3:48 pm

RIGHT NOW THE ONLY NORTENOS THAT ARE CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE SURENOS ARE PALMAS NO ONE ELSE .. CAPITOL PARK , MONTE ALBAN, WS MOB & HORSESHOE ARE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES ALL THEY DO IS TAG AROUND BUT NEVER SAY SHIT TO THE CARA , PALMAS IS BLASTIN FOOS STRAIGHT TOO HELL .. ON THE SURENO SIDE VTG* VARRIO TAMI LEE GANGSTERS ARE PUTTIN IN ALOT OF WORK SO ARE ES & WS CLANTONE ...POCO WAY IS ON THE DOWN LOAD IVE HEARD THAT THEIR RECRUITING ALOT OF GENTE RIGHT NOW I KNOW A COUPLE OF FOOS THAT I WENT TO HIGH SKOOL WITH THAT JUMPED INTO VTL POCO WAY ...
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 4:04 pm

Bassettsgv wrote:on the east side of san jo i remember

Poco Way Locos 13
Kollmar Vagos Trece
East Side Clanton 13
Virginia 13
SPV DUKES 13

Nortenos

El Hoyo Palmas 14
El Monte Alban 14
Varrio Meaowfair 14
12st 14

12st is on the NS & we already mentioned so many varrios on this thread. I wouldn't bother trying to list them all any way.

i dont know much about the ws or ns ..
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 4:07 pm

MMRbkaRudog wrote:
Bassettsgv wrote:on the east side of san jo i remember

Poco Way Locos 13
Kollmar Vagos Trece
East Side Clanton 13
Virginia 13
SPV DUKES 13

Nortenos

El Hoyo Palmas 14
El Monte Alban 14
Varrio Meaowfair 14
12st 14

12st is on the NS & we already mentioned so many varrios on this thread. I wouldn't bother trying to list them all any way.

i dont know much about the ws or ns ..
My message came out on top of the last sentence in the quote, instead of after? Why the hell can't we edit messages any way? It would be a lot better!
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 4:18 pm

~J~ wrote:Lonewolf, if you're talking about Miami Dr on the Eastside? this is what varrios are there on their given sides to that street:

Westside: *VST~SSP~WS Clanton 13* *VHS~WSM 14*
Northside: No active varrios that I know of, Alviso? [Independent Nortenos only]
Southside: SilverLeaf 14 [mentioned on here before]
Eastside: This will take sometime to figure out

[Active varrios mentioned only]

Bassettsgv, 12 Street old varrio was in the Northside of Downtown... also, 12 Street runs in the Southside of Downtown. I cant figure out why they say it's on the Eastside? maybe because the across streets run East, like East Santa Clara St?
What about SJG? You said they were in NSSJ. I don't know why someone would consider Alviso SJ, when I don't think it even connects. I think there may be another active varrio in NSSJ. I've noticed some have gone defunct.
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 4:22 pm

KollmarVago408 wrote:
KollmarVago408, those Surenos off of First and Keyes St... are they WS Clanton or SSP?


im pretty sure thats SSP turf . WS Clantone from what i've heard finally made peace with ES Clantone .. Them VST's are deep homie .. i know like 20 some vatos from that varrio and theres even more that i dont know ...
I heard they made peace long ago. Wasn't the problem, that WSC might not have been real? Anyone know if there's anu other Surenos in SSP's turf?
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Postby KollmarVago408 » August 25th, 2007, 4:22 pm

I'LL TRY AND NAME THEM ALL
XIV HOODS

EL HOYO PALMAS
HORSESHOE
VARRIO RIO SECO
EL MONTE ALBAN
VARRIO MEADOW FAIR
CAPITOL PARK
CPN* CHICANO PRIDE NORTE
WEST SIDE MOB
VARRIO GRANDE SHARKS
VARIO SAN JO
VARRIO NORTE HOMEBOYS
SILVER LEAF NORTE
FLAMAGAN NORTENOS

SUR HOODS

KVT* KOLLMAR VAGOS TRECE
VPL'S* VARRIO PELIGOROSOS LOCOS
VML'S* VARRIO MEXIKAN LOKOTEZ
SURENOS POR VIDA DUKES TOWN
POCO WAY ST
EAST SIDE COLONIAS TRECE
EAST SIDE CLANTONE
WEST SIDE CLANTONE
VARRIO SUR TOWN MALOS
VARRIO SUR TOWN TOKERS
SUR SANTOS PRIDE
VARRIO SURENOS MALDITOS
VIRGINIA 13
EAST SIDE SURENOS
SOMRA LOCOTES
GRAMERCY 13
TAMI LANE GANGSTERS

THATS ALL THE VARRIOS I KNOW OF ..
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Postby KollmarVago408 » August 25th, 2007, 4:25 pm

I heard they made peace long ago. Wasn't the problem, that WSC might not have been real? Anyone know if there's anu other Surenos in SSP's turf?


SSP IS STILL AROUND , I KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE FROM THAT HOOD .. NOT TO LONG AGO TWO FOOS FROM SSP DIED IN A CAR ACCIDENT IN SAN JO ... THE HOMIE LOONEY AND THE HOMIE CASPER DIED ... I DONT KNOW WHERE THEIR VARRIO IS , BUT WE USED TO KICK IT AT EL GALLO COLORADO BY WILLIAMS STREET AND FOOS FROM SSP WOULD CHILL WITH OUT SOMETIMES..
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Postby KollmarVago408 » August 25th, 2007, 4:28 pm

ES & WS CLANTONE MADE PEACE BUT IM NOT SURE WHEN . A HOMIE FROM WS CLANTONE USED TO TALK SHIT ABOUT ES CLANTONE THOUGH I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY SINCE THEIR BOTH SURENOS BUT THEY NEVER GOT ALONG TILL RECENTLY I HEARD THEY MADE Peace..
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 4:34 pm

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KollmarVago408 wrote:from what my homie has told me the Original Varrio Sur Town Started Somewhere in the East Side Around King Rd and that area ... the older VST dudes like in their 40's Claim East side like the ones living in Kollmar drive are some o.g's Claiming East Side VST .. I dont know why they moved to the WS but their main Varrio is on Cadillac Drive but they have foos from their hood spread all over nearby srteets .. it used to Be Varrio Surenos Town Los Malos but now its Varrio Sur Town malos not much diff but it changed a bit..
Well, I think VST has got to have Veteranos pushing 50, que no? my Homeboy dad use to kick it with them back in the day and he's in his 50's. Rudog mentioned how they use to go by Vicky's Town way back where before they changed the name because of the real Vicky's Towners. I think they may have also kicked it on the Southside on East Branham Lane in those foothills around the time the varrio kicked off... but I'm not sure.
Ya I heard they were in the SS, when they were trying to claim Vicky'S Town.
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 4:49 pm

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you bout to come up to san jose to handle some business or on a ride type shit basset?


ima go visit some homies and get me layed ha and show off some of my new tatts to the homies n shit ..got tatted down recently face , neck , chest , arms all earned all done by real gangsters ...



keep it real, anyways, theres Mcdonald's on landess, and an apartment place next to it, look right down the street and one of those apartments, 3rd to last i think is a big norteno dude that lives there, i seen a couple red caprice's around there, some fool from a hayward click tried to hit me up because i was wearin a blue L.A. hat with a blue belt, fucker said "take that shit off ene", i came back with homie and the nina and broke his windows, shit was like 2 weeks ago homie


ive smoked with em a couple times, but shit dont get past that, not because their nortenos or whatever, just because dudes think they can hit you up like nothing ya know? on a personal level


and yea the name you says sounds HELLLLA familiar, through everything i just cant remember dudes name, but dude was pretty small, had shark tat on back of his head, last i saw him he was on house arrest n shiet, i sold a lil dub to him through this fool i knew at MHS, was gonna smoke with em by the aptmentcomplex's my mcdonalds but dude i heard got locked up for some carjackin shit
He said take it off ene, & ain't you a black Crip? Was it some fool from DGF? I think they might have tried to start up something in SJ, & have noticed at least 1 was staying in SSSJ.
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 4:57 pm

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yeah that is true, im wearing a tshirt a L.A. cap and some jeans, dudes hop on my balls because of the L.A., i was smokin with some supposedly hardcore nortenos, i came in and was like yea man im from L.A., watts up? these dudes started trippin haha


i think nortenos are jealous of l.a n shit always saying shit smell a and some punk ass shit like that .. i think i just remembered that dudes name i think it was "gerardo" ...
I don't think Nortenos are jealous of LA. I think some just don't like it, because it's packed with Surenos.
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 4:59 pm

Milpitas does seem a lot soft & has some wannabe's, but I'm sure there's at least some kind of hardcore real's out there.
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 5:09 pm

KollmarVago408 wrote:RIGHT NOW THE ONLY NORTENOS THAT ARE CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE SURENOS ARE PALMAS NO ONE ELSE .. CAPITOL PARK , MONTE ALBAN, WS MOB & HORSESHOE ARE A BUNCH OF PUSSIES ALL THEY DO IS TAG AROUND BUT NEVER SAY SHIT TO THE CARA , PALMAS IS BLASTIN FOOS STRAIGHT TOO HELL .. ON THE SURENO SIDE VTG* VARRIO TAMI LEE GANGSTERS ARE PUTTIN IN ALOT OF WORK SO ARE ES & WS CLANTONE ...POCO WAY IS ON THE DOWN LOAD IVE HEARD THAT THEIR RECRUITING ALOT OF GENTE RIGHT NOW I KNOW A COUPLE OF FOOS THAT I WENT TO HIGH SKOOL WITH THAT JUMPED INTO VTL POCO WAY ...
I'm pretty sure there is more, & you even said SLN was causing some damage to.
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 5:30 pm

KollmarVago408 wrote:I'LL TRY AND NAME THEM ALL
XIV HOODS

EL HOYO PALMAS
HORSESHOE
VARRIO RIO SECO
EL MONTE ALBAN
VARRIO MEADOW FAIR
CAPITOL PARK
CPN* CHICANO PRIDE NORTE
WEST SIDE MOB
VARRIO GRANDE SHARKS
VARIO SAN JO
VARRIO NORTE HOMEBOYS
SILVER LEAF NORTE
FLAMAGAN NORTENOS

SUR HOODS

KVT* KOLLMAR VAGOS TRECE
VPL'S* VARRIO PELIGOROSOS LOCOS
VML'S* VARRIO MEXIKAN LOKOTEZ
SURENOS POR VIDA DUKES TOWN
POCO WAY ST
EAST SIDE COLONIAS TRECE
EAST SIDE CLANTONE
WEST SIDE CLANTONE
VARRIO SUR TOWN MALOS
VARRIO SUR TOWN TOKERS
SUR SANTOS PRIDE
VARRIO SURENOS MALDITOS
VIRGINIA 13
EAST SIDE SURENOS
SOMRA LOCOTES
GRAMERCY 13
TAMI LANE GANGSTERS

THATS ALL THE VARRIOS I KNOW OF ..
It's Barrio Rio Seco, Varrio Monte Alban, Chicano Pride Norte (I think that's Chicano Pride G's you're talking about), Varrio Norte Homies/homeboys, Varrio Flanigan LocoS, Somra Locotes (Sounds like Varrio Sombra/Sureno LocoS), Tami Lee Gangsters & more. I heard LLLS is a generation of Capitol Park. Does anyone know what's up with that? I don't feel like trying to name all the varrios like I said, but it sounds like some might not even be around any more.
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Postby KollmarVago408 » August 25th, 2007, 5:55 pm

only reason silver leaf was acting up was cause palmas had their back and was backing them up also flamigan was acting up cause of palmas .. is varrio grande sharks a real norteno hood ? some foo was claimin it a while back and got smashed by the homies ..
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Postby pistolslanga » August 25th, 2007, 6:31 pm

MMRbkaRudog wrote:
pistolslanga wrote:
Bassettsgv wrote:
you bout to come up to san jose to handle some business or on a ride type shit basset?


ima go visit some homies and get me layed ha and show off some of my new tatts to the homies n shit ..got tatted down recently face , neck , chest , arms all earned all done by real gangsters ...



keep it real, anyways, theres Mcdonald's on landess, and an apartment place next to it, look right down the street and one of those apartments, 3rd to last i think is a big norteno dude that lives there, i seen a couple red caprice's around there, some fool from a hayward click tried to hit me up because i was wearin a blue L.A. hat with a blue belt, fucker said "take that shit off ene", i came back with homie and the nina and broke his windows, shit was like 2 weeks ago homie


ive smoked with em a couple times, but shit dont get past that, not because their nortenos or whatever, just because dudes think they can hit you up like nothing ya know? on a personal level


and yea the name you says sounds HELLLLA familiar, through everything i just cant remember dudes name, but dude was pretty small, had shark tat on back of his head, last i saw him he was on house arrest n shiet, i sold a lil dub to him through this fool i knew at MHS, was gonna smoke with em by the aptmentcomplex's my mcdonalds but dude i heard got locked up for some carjackin shit
He said take it off ene, & ain't you a black Crip? Was it some fool from DGF? I think they might have tried to start up something in SJ, & have noticed at least 1 was staying in SSSJ.




im somalian/egyptian, and from my mamas side egyptian and some other shit i dont give a fukk about, born in watts, but aside from that, gyeah i think dude was from dgf, they kick up dirt in hayward?

after me and homie fukked his car up we were just riding around smoking blunts till like 11 and his car was still there fukked up, we were waiting for him to come out the house, but didnt come out while we were around there
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 7:54 pm

KollmarVago408 wrote:only reason silver leaf was acting up was cause palmas had their back and was backing them up also flamigan was acting up cause of palmas .. is varrio grande sharks a real norteno hood ? some foo was claimin it a while back and got smashed by the homies ..
I was going to ask about VGS. All I know is that they sound like some new gang. I don't know much about SLN, but I don't think Flanigan would act up just because of EHP.
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Postby KollmarVago408 » August 25th, 2007, 8:00 pm

I was going to ask about VGS. All I know is that they sound like some new gang. I don't know much about SLN, but I don't think Flanigan would act up just because of EHP.


i've come across many folios claimin Varrio Grande Sharks and ive also seen taggin of VGS on some walls by the pep boys in san jo ...
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Postby KollmarVago408 » August 25th, 2007, 8:03 pm

gyeah i think dude was from dgf, they kick up dirt in hayward?


whats up with foos from Haywad tryna stiff shit up in san jo & milpitas ? i was workin in some roofin shit a while back here in san jose when some foos from HWD started trippin n shit i seen foos from over there on cinco de mayo rollin in lowriders yellin out some shit bout hayward is the baddest n some ther BS..
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » August 25th, 2007, 8:05 pm

pistolslanga wrote:
MMRbkaRudog wrote:
pistolslanga wrote:
Bassettsgv wrote:
you bout to come up to san jose to handle some business or on a ride type shit basset?


ima go visit some homies and get me layed ha and show off some of my new tatts to the homies n shit ..got tatted down recently face , neck , chest , arms all earned all done by real gangsters ...



keep it real, anyways, theres Mcdonald's on landess, and an apartment place next to it, look right down the street and one of those apartments, 3rd to last i think is a big norteno dude that lives there, i seen a couple red caprice's around there, some fool from a hayward click tried to hit me up because i was wearin a blue L.A. hat with a blue belt, fucker said "take that shit off ene", i came back with homie and the nina and broke his windows, shit was like 2 weeks ago homie


ive smoked with em a couple times, but shit dont get past that, not because their nortenos or whatever, just because dudes think they can hit you up like nothing ya know? on a personal level


and yea the name you says sounds HELLLLA familiar, through everything i just cant remember dudes name, but dude was pretty small, had shark tat on back of his head, last i saw him he was on house arrest n shiet, i sold a lil dub to him through this fool i knew at MHS, was gonna smoke with em by the aptmentcomplex's my mcdonalds but dude i heard got locked up for some carjackin shit
He said take it off ene, & ain't you a black Crip? Was it some fool from DGF? I think they might have tried to start up something in SJ, & have noticed at least 1 was staying in SSSJ.




im somalian/egyptian, and from my mamas side egyptian and some other shit i dont give a #%@& about, born in watts, but aside from that, gyeah i think dude was from dgf, they kick up dirt in hayward?

after me and homie #%@& his car up we were just riding around smoking blunts till like 11 and his car was still there #%@& up, we were waiting for him to come out the house, but didnt come out while we were around there
DGF kick's up dirt in HWD, where they're from. Are you sure it was a Norteno? DGF got 2 sets; a b set & a 14 set. I think the b set used to go by Dangerous Guamanian Family, but might have changed it to Don't Giva Fuck. Don't Giva Fuck is what the 14 set uses for sure. Some how the 2 gangs used those same initials & clicked.
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