Nuestra Familia aka the NF

[MMRbkaRudog]

gyeah i think dude was from dgf, they kick up dirt in hayward?

whats up with foos from Haywad tryna stiff shit up in san jo & milpitas ? i was workin in some roofin shit a while back here in san jose when some foos from HWD started trippin n shit i seen foos from over there on cinco de mayo rollin in lowriders yellin out some shit bout hayward is the baddest n some ther BS..

They're trying to make their move I guess.

[KollmarVago408]

ima go a lil off topic so fuck it . a homeboy of mine has an uncle whos from the Fresno bulldoggs and i remember we had probs with Capitol Park and we were gonna put in some work on their varrio n i know F14 doesnt like sureno or nortenos but the vato was like yeah i'll back u guys up against the nortes , he said he hated san jo norteno more than he hates surenos ????shit got me all confused..

[pistolslanga]

you bout to come up to san jose to handle some business or on a ride type shit basset?

ima go visit some homies and get me layed ha and show off some of my new tatts to the homies n shit ..got tatted down recently face , neck , chest , arms all earned all done by real gangsters ...

keep it real, anyways, theres Mcdonald's on landess, and an apartment place next to it, look right down the street and one of those apartments, 3rd to last i think is a big norteno dude that lives there, i seen a couple red caprice's around there, some fool from a hayward click tried to hit me up because i was wearin a blue L.A. hat with a blue belt, fucker said "take that shit off ene", i came back with homie and the nina and broke his windows, shit was like 2 weeks ago homie


ive smoked with em a couple times, but shit dont get past that, not because their nortenos or whatever, just because dudes think they can hit you up like nothing ya know? on a personal level


and yea the name you says sounds HELLLLA familiar, through everything i just cant remember dudes name, but dude was pretty small, had shark tat on back of his head, last i saw him he was on house arrest n shiet, i sold a lil dub to him through this fool i knew at MHS, was gonna smoke with em by the aptmentcomplex's my mcdonalds but dude i heard got locked up for some carjackin shit

He said take it off ene, & ain't you a black Crip? Was it some fool from DGF? I think they might have tried to start up something in SJ, & have noticed at least 1 was staying in SSSJ.

im somalian/egyptian, and from my mamas side egyptian and some other shit i dont give a #%@& about, born in watts, but aside from that, gyeah i think dude was from dgf, they kick up dirt in hayward?

after me and homie #%@& his car up we were just riding around smoking blunts till like 11 and his car was still there #%@& up, we were waiting for him to come out the house, but didnt come out while we were around there

DGF kick's up dirt in HWD, where they're from. Are you sure it was a Norteno? DGF got 2 sets; a b set & a 14 set. I think the b set used to go by Dangerous Guamanian Family, but might have changed it to Don't Giva fu--. Don't Giva fu-- is what the 14 set uses for sure. Some how the 2 gangs used those same initials & clicked.

they got a blood set homie? the fukk, this muthafukka who was tryna set trip on me looked real chicano, he had a shaved head, small, a lil chubby, but the fact that the punk b1tch didnt try to get back is sad, after we broke out his windows and bounced the place was quiet as fukk, he was outside BBQn, we roll back with homies car and a nine and it seemed like they were gone

[pistolslanga]

ima go a lil off topic so fu-- it . a homeboy of mine has an uncle whos from the Fresno bulldoggs and i remember we had probs with Capitol Park and we were gonna put in some work on their varrio n i know F14 doesnt like sureno or nortenos but the vato was like yeah i'll back u guys up against the nortes , he said he hated san jo norteno more than he hates surenos ????shit got me all confused..

bulldawgs got a bunch of problems with norteno's, big time, more then they got problems with surenos, i think they see nortenos as traders and surenos as just a bunch of rats basically, thats what some fool who went to my school was talking about, so by what you sayin, centro muthafukkas ride for surenos?


shits wild

[Bassettsgv]

hahaha fuck that shit ese back in 05 some norteno sai"squeel for your cheese fucking rat" god ohh dear god i gave that vato the worst beating of is life ... by the way this happened by the big Kmart by the high school ..i think theres a khols there now ?

[Bassettsgv]

bulldogs aint so tuff i've been to Fresno a bunch of times never really got heat from no one ..

[pistolslanga]

hahaha fu-- that shit ese back in 05 some norteno sai"squeel for your cheese #%@&#%@ rat" god ohh dear god i gave that vato the worst beating of is life ... by the way this happened by the big Kmart by the high school ..i think theres a khols there now ?

by independence?

if im not mistaken still a kmart there

[Bassettsgv]

there was a Kmart there back then but i heard they tore it down and they set up a new store there ?

[~J~]

What about SJG? You said they were in NSSJ. I don't know why someone would consider Alviso SJ, when I don't think it even connects. I think there may be another active varrio in NSSJ. I've noticed some have gone defunct.

SJG is not around anymore at least not as a varrio, I think some of them moved to Oregon. the one dude that I grew up with... moved back to the SS then to the WS of Downtown. funny thing is... some Nortenos moved in to his old house on the NS and the another dude I met from SJG moved to the Central Valley, I think to Tulare but I'm not sure. he has had problems with Bulldogs in the Central Valley... being from Norteno from San Jo what does anyone expect. Right Alviso doesnt connect to any San Jose neighborhoods, in fact... once you get passed the NS of Downtown there's only Apts and Mobile Homes filling up here and there between Downtown and Alviso where the Hi-Tech Companys were around or are. I've come to find out Alviso as been part of San Jose since 1968... but yeah... Alviso is really their own trip, but it's the most Northern part of San Jose but they probably just claim "Alviso"

VSJ had the St. James Park Neighborhood on lock before the gang injunction. I cant figure out if some vatos from VSJ moved to the ES? thus... VSJ on the "Eastside" like you mentioned.

[~J~]

ima go a lil off topic so fu-- it . a homeboy of mine has an uncle whos from the Fresno bulldoggs and i remember we had probs with Capitol Park and we were gonna put in some work on their varrio n i know F14 doesnt like sureno or nortenos but the vato was like yeah i'll back u guys up against the nortes , he said he hated san jo norteno more than he hates surenos ????shit got me all confused..

It had been mentioned here before... the Bulldogs killed some San Jo Norteno Homies. I guess they were not liking the situation for whatever reason. there's a lot of dislike between Nortenos especially San Jose Nortenos and Bulldogs + Bulldogs sided with Southerners in the pen until they didnt want to get taxed. Nortenos see Bulldogs as traders, a ranker's move, so I guess Surenos are the “Lesser of Two Evils” as they say... for the Bulldogs. seems like people from San Jose even non Nortenos have a good chance of finding trouble with Bulldogs if they know you're from there.

[pistolslanga]

ima go a lil off topic so fu-- it . a homeboy of mine has an uncle whos from the Fresno bulldoggs and i remember we had probs with Capitol Park and we were gonna put in some work on their varrio n i know F14 doesnt like sureno or nortenos but the vato was like yeah i'll back u guys up against the nortes , he said he hated san jo norteno more than he hates surenos ????shit got me all confused..

It had been mentioned here before... the Bulldogs killed some San Jo Norteno Homies. I guess they were not liking the situation for whatever reason. there's a lot of dislike between Nortenos especially San Jose Nortenos and Bulldogs + Bulldogs sided with Southerners in the pen until they didnt want to get taxed. Nortenos see Bulldogs as traders, a ranker's move, so I guess Surenos are the “Lesser of Two Evils” as they say... for the Bulldogs. seems like people from San Jose even non Nortenos have a good chance of finding trouble with Bulldogs if they know you're from there.

fukk em, they gonna trip on a city

haha

[~J~]

ima go a lil off topic so fu-- it . a homeboy of mine has an uncle whos from the Fresno bulldoggs and i remember we had probs with Capitol Park and we were gonna put in some work on their varrio n i know F14 doesnt like sureno or nortenos but the vato was like yeah i'll back u guys up against the nortes , he said he hated san jo norteno more than he hates surenos ????shit got me all confused..

It had been mentioned here before... the Bulldogs killed some San Jo Norteno Homies. I guess they were not liking the situation for whatever reason. there's a lot of dislike between Nortenos especially San Jose Nortenos and Bulldogs + Bulldogs sided with Southerners in the pen until they didnt want to get taxed. Nortenos see Bulldogs as traders, a ranker's move, so I guess Surenos are the “Lesser of Two Evils” as they say... for the Bulldogs. seems like people from San Jose even non Nortenos have a good chance of finding trouble with Bulldogs if they know you're from there.

#%@& em, they gonna trip on a city

haha

To tell you truth them Bulldogs got a lot of numbers and together with San Jose were a big Northerner factor in the past. some Nortenos still live in Fresno though, from what I'm hearing... maybe some San Jose Norteno Homies holding the line in Fresno there with fellow hometown Fresno Nortenos? #%@& happens there's no going back... it is what it is... Bulldogs wanted to go independent, now they have to see it through.

[pistolslanga]

ima go a lil off topic so fu-- it . a homeboy of mine has an uncle whos from the Fresno bulldoggs and i remember we had probs with Capitol Park and we were gonna put in some work on their varrio n i know F14 doesnt like sureno or nortenos but the vato was like yeah i'll back u guys up against the nortes , he said he hated san jo norteno more than he hates surenos ????shit got me all confused..

It had been mentioned here before... the Bulldogs killed some San Jo Norteno Homies. I guess they were not liking the situation for whatever reason. there's a lot of dislike between Nortenos especially San Jose Nortenos and Bulldogs + Bulldogs sided with Southerners in the pen until they didnt want to get taxed. Nortenos see Bulldogs as traders, a ranker's move, so I guess Surenos are the “Lesser of Two Evils” as they say... for the Bulldogs. seems like people from San Jose even non Nortenos have a good chance of finding trouble with Bulldogs if they know you're from there.

#%@& em, they gonna trip on a city

haha

To tell you truth them Bulldogs got a lot of numbers and together with San Jose were a big Northerner factor in the past. some Nortenos still live in Fresno though, from what I'm hearing... maybe some San Jose Norteno Homies holding the line in Fresno there with fellow hometown Fresno Nortenos? #%@& happens there's no going back... it is what it is... Bulldogs wanted to go independent, now they have to see it through.

yeah thats true, isnt fresno hella asian gangs though?

[~J~]

I heard they made peace long ago. Wasn't the problem, that WSC might not have been real? Anyone know if there's anu other Surenos in SSP's turf?

Well as I said before Clantone had Horseshoe Park at one time... they may have just gone by Clantone without the WS back then? so I'd say they are real. The 90's on the WS of downtown was more active, as far as what I've heard and seen back then in the 90's... Willow Street I believe was another Sur varrio and Clantone are both close to SSP turf. Willow Street varrio had to have been... around S 1st St and Willow St to S Almaden Ave to the West, right next to SSP and to the North. Clantone I believe was or is around there probably a little more North around S 1st St and W Virginia St West to Almaden Ave. WSM varrio is or was just South of all these varrios and VHS lies just to the West.

Also in the 90's there was Surenos just East of the Washington Area in the Southside of Downtown... from around S 1st St to S 10th St on William St and on 10th and Reed St. Nortenos were also across the street back then on S 10th St between William St and Reed St.

[KollmarVago408]

Vml's 13 is on 24th St and on Williams St By a Mexican Restaurant called El Gallo Colorado .. If you go there at night you'll see a bunch of Surenos Just kicking it there by the blue apartments by the trailers homes . That was the place to be back in the day when i was like 12 , 13 yrs old .. williams st is usually were the parties go down , you'll see surenos from diff varrios , ssp , vst , spv , kvt , poco way ect ect ... then SPV is on San Antonio St on the houses and on the apartments there ...only nortenos i've seen around there were on 13st st and on 19th st .. but 24th , williams , san antonio is sureno turf..

[KollmarVago408]

Nortenos from Alviso claim san jose but why ? isnt Alviso North of Milpitas ? Colonias 13 smoked some foos from Alviso like 2 yrs ago when they moved into their varrio and though they'd just walk around with their red rags hanging like nothing , they got smoked by some vato they called Mr. Chuko .. Colonias 13 is by willow glen ...

[~J~]

It's Barrio Rio Seco, Varrio Monte Alban, Chicano Pride Norte (I think that's Chicano Pride G's you're talking about), Varrio Norte Homies/homeboys, Varrio Flanigan LocoS, Somra Locotes (Sounds like Varrio Sombra/Sureno LocoS), Tami Lee Gangsters & more. I heard LLLS is a generation of Capitol Park. Does anyone know what's up with that? I don't feel like trying to name all the varrios like I said, but it sounds like some might not even be around any more.

I'll try to give you the Northside as best of I know, this time with more detail from an Outsider's perpective...
VNS = Varrio Northside ~ VNH's official name was but I'm not exact sure... Varrio Northside Homeboys
They were the 2 orginial NS Varrios... also I'm not exact sure which varrio came first. I think they both starting in the 70's and I do know for sure, VNH was already official by 1981. I heard VNS merged with VNH in the early to mid 90's. both of these neighborhood varrios are inactive. again, VNH main spots were Backesto Park and also off of E Julian St. around N 5th St to N 8th St and a little close by. I not sure about VNS hang out spot back then. VSJ came around the time Taggers got into Banging in the late 80's... St. James Park Neighborhood was their spot. I know some orginial JSP dudes got into VSJ... again, the injunction did away with their varrio. 12 Street I believe came around the early 90's... I'm not exactly sure about them main spot I think it was around Twelve and Julian St. again, they got into it with Palmas in the late 90's. I've mention about SJG on a previous post.

[~J~]

Nortenos from Alviso claim san jose but why ? isnt Alviso North of Milpitas ? Colonias 13 smoked some foos from Alviso like 2 yrs ago when they moved into their varrio and though they'd just walk around with their red rags hanging like nothing , they got smoked by some vato they called Mr. Chuko .. Colonias 13 is by willow glen ...

Alviso is west of Milpitas, but it as been San Jose since 1968. technically it's the only part of San Jose that's next to the Bay water. I think they just claim "Alviso" and it's Norteno turf, so they killed in their own neighborhood.

[Bassettsgv]

aliviso is like alaska part of the us but far away que no ... today is my first day in san jo so far its been good i saw some Nortenos by the Welcome to Alum rock graffi on that store next to the vaqueros store ...Poco Way is like my second hood homie i got love for all my Vatos Locos from PW ..

[Bassettsgv]

aliviso is like alaska part of the us but far away que no ... today is my first day in san jo so far its been good i saw some Nortenos by the Welcome to Alum rock graffi on that store next to the vaqueros store ...Poco Way is like my second hood homie i got love for all my Vatos Locos from PW ..

[Bassettsgv]

i heard SPV moved to Jackson ?? Isnt Jackson a Norteno Varrio ... What about checkers , are they a Varrio or just a Taggin Crew ?

[pistolslanga]

i heard SPV moved to Jackson ?? Isnt Jackson a Norteno Varrio ... What about checkers , are they a Varrio or just a Taggin Crew ?

think they just tag

[Bassettsgv]

i drove by Kollmar Drive earlier & saw "OFA MOB XIV" ???? wtf is that a new Varrio ..

[~J~]

Rudog here's the rap on WSM... I was talking to a dude who Brother is in MR.21 generation and from I've been told it's consistent with what I know about Westside Mob. MR.21 is forth generation WSM. Their official spot was or is W Alma Ave and Plum St. I was told that the 1st and 2nd generation went by "Varrio Lebre" which asked the question I was wondering myself. I'm pretty sure the varrio started in the 70's and the 3rd generation changed the name to Westside Mob in the 80's.

In the late 90's the San Jose Police killed two WSM Homies... Beto and Popeye... it probably was a set-up from what I heard. they also lost another Homie... Boxer. If you remember 98-99 a State Narcotics Agent by the name... Michael Walker killed Rudy Cardenas while chasing after him and shooting him in the back on N 4th and St John St in the NS, not sure if he was WSM, he may have just been a guy from the WS neighborhood.

Bassettsgv, about that WSM youngster saying Ni--- I believe that because... some foolio by the name of Thumper who stayed in the NS for a while and is in his mid 20's now, said Ni--- on his profile. anyway... from what I've been told... it doesnt really matter what color you are because... WSM embraces everyone and accepts everyone as well. WSM seems to be less picky then VHS and also I was told VHS was talking #%@& about WSM at one time... MR.21 talks about #%@& the beef between VHS and WSM on "City of Sharks"

[Bassettsgv]

i only know that Capitol Park & Palmas had beef that was in 05 who knows if they still beef .. now on the pedo about WS MOB accepting everybody whos down even if their black, white , asian ect ect , my opinion on that is plain and simple FUCK THEM , because when their Black , Asian what ever go to the PEN they cant Claim Norte cause they'll get checked by the hardcore bangers im there homie , i came across an INDIAN vato that was a Norteno and to me homes thats BS . FAKETEEN (18st) accepts whites, blacks , asians ect ect thats why nobody Likes them and yeah they have a big ass varrio but they also have a shit load of enemies you name it .TEPA 13 , WS HARPYS 13 , FLORENCIA13 , PLAYBOY SURENO 13, LA PUENTE 13 , BASSETT GRANDE 13, MID CITY STONERS 13 AND ALOT OF BLACK CRIPS & BLOODS PLUS MARA SALVATRUCHA ... SO TO ME ESE HAVING VATOS FROM OTHER RACES IN A SURENO/NORTENO VARRIO IS BULL SHIT , NOW IF THEIR DOWN WITH U OR YOUR HOOD ITS FIRME BUT FOR THEM TO BE SAYING THEIR NORTENOS OR SURENOS ITS JUST LAME HOMIE SHIT LIKE THAT SHOULD "NOT" HAPPEN , JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION ..

[~J~]

now on the pedo about WS MOB accepting everybody whos down even if their black, white , asian ect ect , my opinion on that is plain and simple fu-- THEM , because when their Black , Asian what ever go to the PEN they cant Claim Norte cause they'll get checked by the hardcore bangers im there homie , i came across an INDIAN vato that was a Norteno and to me homes thats BS .

Well, honestly I think it was meant more like a figure of speech... the thing about excepting anyone, I think it doesnt exactly mean anyone... per se. in fact... the few WSM Homies I knew were Chicano except for one dude of EL Salvadorian Heritage... nowadays a lot of Norte gangs are losing some standards so that has to do more with the newer Norteno generation, there's a lot of wannabe's these days. yeah, I'm well aware of the prison politics... seems like Blacks are the only ones that dont make exceptions to allowing another Races to ride with them. [there are exceptions with Mexicans and even Whites <---- people with mixed heritage]

[pistolslanga]

i only know that Capitol Park & Palmas had beef that was in 05 who knows if they still beef .. now on the pedo about WS MOB accepting everybody whos down even if their black, white , asian ect ect , my opinion on that is plain and simple fu-- THEM , because when their Black , Asian what ever go to the PEN they cant Claim Norte cause they'll get checked by the hardcore bangers im there homie , i came across an INDIAN vato that was a Norteno and to me homes thats BS . eighteen (18st) accepts whites, blacks , asians ect ect thats why nobody Likes them and yeah they have a big ass varrio but they also have a shit load of enemies you name it .TEPA 13 , WS HARPYS 13 , FLORENCIA13 , PLAYBOY SURENO 13, LA PUENTE 13 , BASSETT GRANDE 13, MID CITY STONERS 13 AND ALOT OF BLACK CRIPS & BLOODS PLUS MARA SALVATRUCHA ... SO TO ME ESE HAVING VATOS FROM OTHER RACES IN A SURENO/NORTENO VARRIO IS BULL SHIT , NOW IF THEIR DOWN WITH U OR YOUR HOOD ITS FIRME BUT FOR THEM TO BE SAYING THEIR NORTENOS OR SURENOS ITS JUST LAME HOMIE SHIT LIKE THAT SHOULD "NOT" HAPPEN , JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION ..

yeah i always saw sureno/norteno as strictly a hispanic thing, by that i mean the history involves them, the culture of them promotes them, its "cholo" culture, also known as mexican gangster culture, bloods and crips are different, they are more on the terms of starting out as revolutionaries, then from there going to become a lose affiliated criminal street gang, or an organization because now you see them everywhere, nortenos started as a broken off group from the eme, to protect themselves, the whole mexican gangster started off from correct me if im wrong, but latinos protecting themselves from whites etc?

overall, seeing a cholo whos asian or indian or whatever seems pretty retarded, while seeing a blood and crip of a different ethnicity isnt shocking, except theres a VERY FEW minority of them, that are acuutally real bloods and crips, youll see fake white kids and shit, but youll see samoans, tongans, filipinos, islanders, etc, i know some pakistani dude in nickerson gardens when i used to go visit my aunt there, he was from the duece line, shit seemed really strange at first, but my cousin who lives there also said he was down.


also who holds down mclaughlin ave? i seen some kids posted around there, pretty sure they were nortenos with red belts shirts n cortez's n shit

[Bassettsgv]

I MET A FILIPINO GUY WHO SAID HE WAS A NORTENO ME AND MY HOMIES JUST LAUGHED AT HIS PUNK ASS HAHA , I THINK HE GOT BUTT HURT AND STARTING CALLIN US SCRAPS AND SAYIN SHIT LIKE PURO NORTE XIV N SHIT HAHAA SHIT WAS A TRIP .. MCLAUGHLIN AVE HUH ? I THINK CHICANO PRIDE NORTE IS ON MCLAUGHLIN ... THERES A SURENO GANG NEAR MCLAUGHLIN CALLED VPL'S13 ....

[Bassettsgv]

oh i forgot , that filipino dude got hiss ass kicked and left stranded n lifeless outside eastridge mall ...courtesy of poco way and BxG13....

[pistolslanga]

oh i forgot , that filipino dude got hiss ass kicked and left stranded n lifeless outside eastridge mall ...courtesy of poco way and BxG13....

around milpitas high id see so many asians/whites/filipinos trying to claim norteno

[Bassettsgv]

around milpitas high id see so many asians/whites/filipinos trying to claim norteno

looks like nortenos are desperate to get foos on their side no matter if their not hispanics .. i think i heard of some black rapper from dark room familia saying he was a norteno not a bloood cause he was sportin red rags all over the mutha..

[KollmarVago408]

that's nothing , i have seen vietnamese foos saying their nortenos i''ve seen a shit load of white kids saying their nortenos and saying im half mexican nigga ... one time at independence the surenos fucked up all the nortenos and i remember the nortenos came back the next day with samoans , asians , blacks and white foos to retaliate .. fuck that shit .. im cool with alot of different people asian white ect ect but i wouldnt go too far as in lettin them be surenos from the hood cause i'd like to keep it 100% raza ...