Nuestra Familia aka the NF

[pistolslanga]

that's nothing , i have seen vietnamese foos saying their nortenos i''ve seen a shit load of white kids saying their nortenos and saying im half mexican nigga ... one time at independence the surenos #%@& up all the nortenos and i remember the nortenos came back the next day with samoans , asians , blacks and white foos to retaliate .. fu-- that shit .. im cool with alot of different people asian white ect ect but i wouldnt go too far as in lettin them be surenos from the hood cause i'd like to keep it 100% raza ...

haha, you go to indy?

[~J~]

There's more truth nowadays to what you dudes are saying with regards to other ethnicities claiming Norte, of course there has always been exceptions. I probably dont have to mention these are mostly wannabe's from other ethnicities claiming Norte or for new so-called Norteno gangs. a lot of youngsters want to be a part of Norte/Nortenos because they are the most influential street gang in Nor Cal... like the Crips are in the US if not the world. Take Palmas or VHS as the real examples of who Nortenos are letting in... I guarantee you dudes, it's mostly Xicanos.

[pistolslanga]

There's more truth nowadays to what you dudes are saying with regards to other ethnicities claiming Norte, of course there has always been exceptions. I probably dont have to mention these are mostly wannabe's from other ethnicities claiming Norte or for new so-called Norteno gangs. a lot of youngsters want to be a part of Norte/Nortenos because they are the most influential street gang in Nor Cal... like the Crips are in the US if not the world. Take Palmas or VHS as the real examples of who Nortenos are letting in... I guarantee you dudes, it's mostly Xicanos.

yeah but its a trip how a supposed norteno member whos white/asian/filipino will hate a sureno more then a real chicano

shits like...huh?

[KollmarVago408]

haha, you go to indy?

i've been comin to Independence high since my fresman year im a senior now whaaaa lol .. my freshman yr was hectic homie foo where getting shashed all over campus big ass rumbles on the cinco de mayo assemblies .. crazy shhiitttt homiee ...

[KollmarVago408]

this one white guy and i mean really white guy , blonde hair , blue eyes , whiter than michael jackons ass , freckles all over his face haha anyways this foo claimed to be the baddestt hardest NOrteno on earth homie be like i fuckin hate scraps n shit , one day my homies runned his ass down and asked him why the fuck he was claimin norte if he was white ,, dude be like I'm half mexican hahhaha ..

[KollmarVago408]

There's more truth nowadays to what you dudes are saying with regards to other ethnicities claiming Norte, of course there has always been exceptions. I probably dont have to mention these are mostly wannabe's from other ethnicities claiming Norte or for new so-called Norteno gangs. a lot of youngsters want to be a part of Norte/Nortenos because they are the most influential street gang in Nor Cal... like the Crips are in the US if not the world. Take Palmas or VHS as the real examples of who Nortenos are letting in... I guarantee you dudes, it's mostly Xicanos.

Kollmar Vagos Trece homie is all Meixcans and we got Chicanos too , i'm a chicano and even though some Nortenos have said to me that im a confused peace of shit cause i claim sur i just tell them to fuck them selfs homie .. i grew up in a sureno varrio and thats how i grew up period .. as far as other races claimin norte yeah its a serious problem in san jo because i see it all the time , in school , the store and in other public places n i dont think nortenos mind cause i seen white foos sayin Norte till they lungs pass out in front of real or so called nortenos ..

[pistolslanga]

this one white guy and i mean really white guy , blonde hair , blue eyes , whiter than michael jackons ass , freckles all over his face haha anyways this foo claimed to be the baddestt hardest NOrteno on earth homie be like i fuckin hate scraps n shit , one day my homies runned his ass down and asked him why the fu-- he was claimin norte if he was white ,, dude be like I'm half mexican hahhaha ..

shoulda slapped the words out his mouth, haha does he still go to indy? imma hit him up, trying to get into a little fighting to ... tone my skills

[KollmarVago408]

shoulda slapped the words out his mouth, haha does he still go to indy? imma hit him up, trying to get into a little fighting to ... tone my skills

i guess homie school starts tommorow if i see his ass ima fuck um up .. shit homie i've been gettin in fights since 6th grade always over the same shit "u a scrap" simon ese and bam bam haha ... independence is known to have some badd ass rumbles specially on cinco de mayo .. Norteno vs sureno vs samoans vs blacks vs asians haha everything goes .... ohh that foos name is Josh hes always jockin the nortenos all up on their nuts like a hoe ha..

[pistolslanga]

shoulda slapped the words out his mouth, haha does he still go to indy? imma hit him up, trying to get into a little fighting to ... tone my skills

i guess homie school starts tommorow if i see his ass ima fu-- um up .. shit homie i've been gettin in fights since 6th grade always over the same shit "u a scrap" simon ese and bam bam haha ... independence is known to have some badd ass rumbles specially on cinco de mayo .. Norteno vs sureno vs samoans vs blacks vs asians haha everything goes .... ohh that foos name is Josh hes always jockin the nortenos all up on their nuts like a hoe ha..

haha fasho, tell me when the fights go down, ill get in cuhz.

yeah school start at 1020 tommorow, i seen this one asian kid claimin "a town crips" some offbrand san jose crip gang, fukked him up with my big homie from gundry blocc in L.A., shit was by that bus stop accross the school

[KollmarVago408]

i seen this one asian kid claimin "a town crips" some offbrand san jose crip gang, #%@& him up with my big homie from gundry blocc in L.A., shit was by that bus stop accross the school

A-Town is Fake homie , P-Town on the other hand they have some hardcore foos in their gang . not to long ago they did a drive by on some foos ..

[KollmarVago408]

thing i like about Indy is The girls man theres unlimited opcions ...

[Bassettsgv]

DROPPIN SOME SICK ASS FLOWS JA


MEXICAN TO THE BONE
FOO WE PACK THE FUCKIN CHROME
BASSETT CALIFORNIA IS WHERE I ROAM
STAYING DRUNK STAYING STONED
BG ON MINE WHEN I ROLL
FUCK A PIG FUCK MY P.O
FUCK THE USA ......BICHT
I REPRESENT THE SGV
WITH A CREASED BLUE RAG
FOO DONT STEP TO NOSOTROS SOMOS MUCHOS Y SOMOS BIEN LOCOS ..

[MMRbkaRudog]

there was a Kmart there back then but i heard they tore it down and they set up a new store there ?

Ya, the new store is KOHL'S.

[MMRbkaRudog]

you bout to come up to san jose to handle some business or on a ride type shit basset?

ima go visit some homies and get me layed ha and show off some of my new tatts to the homies n shit ..got tatted down recently face , neck , chest , arms all earned all done by real gangsters ...

keep it real, anyways, theres Mcdonald's on landess, and an apartment place next to it, look right down the street and one of those apartments, 3rd to last i think is a big norteno dude that lives there, i seen a couple red caprice's around there, some fool from a hayward click tried to hit me up because i was wearin a blue L.A. hat with a blue belt, fucker said "take that shit off ene", i came back with homie and the nina and broke his windows, shit was like 2 weeks ago homie


ive smoked with em a couple times, but shit dont get past that, not because their nortenos or whatever, just because dudes think they can hit you up like nothing ya know? on a personal level


and yea the name you says sounds HELLLLA familiar, through everything i just cant remember dudes name, but dude was pretty small, had shark tat on back of his head, last i saw him he was on house arrest n shiet, i sold a lil dub to him through this fool i knew at MHS, was gonna smoke with em by the aptmentcomplex's my mcdonalds but dude i heard got locked up for some carjackin shit

He said take it off ene, & ain't you a black Crip? Was it some fool from DGF? I think they might have tried to start up something in SJ, & have noticed at least 1 was staying in SSSJ.

im somalian/egyptian, and from my mamas side egyptian and some other shit i dont give a #%@& about, born in watts, but aside from that, gyeah i think dude was from dgf, they kick up dirt in hayward?

after me and homie #%@& his car up we were just riding around smoking blunts till like 11 and his car was still there #%@& up, we were waiting for him to come out the house, but didnt come out while we were around there

DGF kick's up dirt in HWD, where they're from. Are you sure it was a Norteno? DGF got 2 sets; a b set & a 14 set. I think the b set used to go by Dangerous Guamanian Family, but might have changed it to Don't Giva fu--. Don't Giva fu-- is what the 14 set uses for sure. Some how the 2 gangs used those same initials & clicked.

they got a blood set homie? the #%@&, this muthafukka who was tryna set trip on me looked real chicano, he had a shaved head, small, a lil chubby, but the fact that the punk b1tch didnt try to get back is sad, after we broke out his windows and bounced the place was quiet as #%@&, he was outside BBQn, we roll back with homies car and a nine and it seemed like they were gone

I think they still have the b set.

[MMRbkaRudog]

What about SJG? You said they were in NSSJ. I don't know why someone would consider Alviso SJ, when I don't think it even connects. I think there may be another active varrio in NSSJ. I've noticed some have gone defunct.

SJG is not around anymore at least not as a varrio, I think some of them moved to Oregon. the one dude that I grew up with... moved back to the SS then to the WS of Downtown. funny thing is... some Nortenos moved in to his old house on the NS and the another dude I met from SJG moved to the Central Valley, I think to Tulare but I'm not sure. he has had problems with Bulldogs in the Central Valley... being from Norteno from San Jo what does anyone expect. Right Alviso doesnt connect to any San Jose neighborhoods, in fact... once you get passed the NS of Downtown there's only Apts and Mobile Homes filling up here and there between Downtown and Alviso where the Hi-Tech Companys were around or are. I've come to find out Alviso as been part of San Jose since 1968... but yeah... Alviso is really their own trip, but it's the most Northern part of San Jose but they probably just claim "Alviso"

VSJ had the St. James Park Neighborhood on lock before the gang injunction. I cant figure out if some vatos from VSJ moved to the ES? thus... VSJ on the "Eastside" like you mentioned.

Maybe Alviso became it's own town? I always thought VSJ started in ESSJ. Maybe VSJ set up varrios in NSSJ & ESSJ around the same time. I don't even know if they're in ESSJ any more.

[MMRbkaRudog]

It's Barrio Rio Seco, Varrio Monte Alban, Chicano Pride Norte (I think that's Chicano Pride G's you're talking about), Varrio Norte Homies/homeboys, Varrio Flanigan LocoS, Somra Locotes (Sounds like Varrio Sombra/Sureno LocoS), Tami Lee Gangsters & more. I heard LLLS is a generation of Capitol Park. Does anyone know what's up with that? I don't feel like trying to name all the varrios like I said, but it sounds like some might not even be around any more.

I'll try to give you the Northside as best of I know, this time with more detail from an Outsider's perpective...
VNS = Varrio Northside ~ VNH's official name was but I'm not exact sure... Varrio Northside Homeboys
They were the 2 orginial NS Varrios... also I'm not exact sure which varrio came first. I think they both starting in the 70's and I do know for sure, VNH was already official by 1981. I heard VNS merged with VNH in the early to mid 90's. both of these neighborhood varrios are inactive. again, VNH main spots were Backesto Park and also off of E Julian St. around N 5th St to N 8th St and a little close by. I not sure about VNS hang out spot back then. VSJ came around the time Taggers got into Banging in the late 80's... St. James Park Neighborhood was their spot. I know some orginial JSP dudes got into VSJ... again, the injunction did away with their varrio. 12 Street I believe came around the early 90's... I'm not exactly sure about them main spot I think it was around Twelve and Julian St. again, they got into it with Palmas in the late 90's. I've mention about SJG on a previous post.

Varrio Norte Homies & Varrio Norte Homeboys are both official names of VNH. The homeboy I told you was reppin' VNH did make it seem kind of inactive, & had some of his tat's removed.

[MMRbkaRudog]

i heard SPV moved to Jackson ?? Isnt Jackson a Norteno Varrio ... What about checkers , are they a Varrio or just a Taggin Crew ?

SPV is from around Jackson & Nortenos claim Jackson, but it's a long road & they don't have all of it. Checkers has crews & gangs claiming that block.

[MMRbkaRudog]

i drove by Kollmar Drive earlier & saw "OFA MOB XIV" ???? wtf is that a new Varrio ..

OFA is an old crew, which started in LA.

[MMRbkaRudog]

Rudog here's the rap on WSM... I was talking to a dude who Brother is in MR.21 generation and from I've been told it's consistent with what I know about Westside Mob. MR.21 is forth generation WSM. Their official spot was or is W Alma Ave and Plum St. I was told that the 1st and 2nd generation went by "Varrio Lebre" which asked the question I was wondering myself. I'm pretty sure the varrio started in the 70's and the 3rd generation changed the name to Westside Mob in the 80's.

In the late 90's the San Jose Police killed two WSM Homies... Beto and Popeye... it probably was a set-up from what I heard. they also lost another Homie... Boxer. If you remember 98-99 a State Narcotics Agent by the name... Michael Walker killed Rudy Cardenas while chasing after him and shooting him in the back on N 4th and St John St in the NS, not sure if he was WSM, he may have just been a guy from the WS neighborhood.

Bassettsgv, about that WSM youngster saying Ni--- I believe that because... some foolio by the name of Thumper who stayed in the NS for a while and is in his mid 20's now, said Ni--- on his profile. anyway... from what I've been told... it doesnt really matter what color you are because... WSM embraces everyone and accepts everyone as well. WSM seems to be less picky then VHS and also I was told VHS was talking #%@& about WSM at one time... MR.21 talks about #%@& the beef between VHS and WSM on "City of Sharks"

Was Rudy killed that long ago? I remember the news said he was affiliated, but they didn't mention varrios.

[MMRbkaRudog]

this one white guy and i mean really white guy , blonde hair , blue eyes , whiter than michael jackons ass , freckles all over his face haha anyways this foo claimed to be the baddestt hardest NOrteno on earth homie be like i fuckin hate scraps n shit , one day my homies runned his ass down and asked him why the fu-- he was claimin norte if he was white ,, dude be like I'm half mexican hahhaha ..

Maybe he was 1/2 Mexican & he probably banged it for most reasons eNe's do.

[MMRbkaRudog]

There's more truth nowadays to what you dudes are saying with regards to other ethnicities claiming Norte, of course there has always been exceptions. I probably dont have to mention these are mostly wannabe's from other ethnicities claiming Norte or for new so-called Norteno gangs. a lot of youngsters want to be a part of Norte/Nortenos because they are the most influential street gang in Nor Cal... like the Crips are in the US if not the world. Take Palmas or VHS as the real examples of who Nortenos are letting in... I guarantee you dudes, it's mostly Xicanos.

Kollmar Vagos Trece homie is all Meixcans and we got Chicanos too , i'm a chicano and even though some Nortenos have said to me that im a confused peace of shit cause i claim sur i just tell them to fu-- them selfs homie .. i grew up in a sureno varrio and thats how i grew up period .. as far as other races claimin norte yeah its a serious problem in san jo because i see it all the time , in school , the store and in other public places n i dont think nortenos mind cause i seen white foos sayin Norte till they lungs pass out in front of real or so called nortenos ..

Why would they mind, if even 1 of 13's original members was white & whites were in varrios before 13 existed?

[~J~]

Was Rudy killed that long ago? I remember the news said he was affiliated, but they didn't mention varrios.

Right, my bad it was 2004. I was thinking about the WSM Homies that got shot 98-99. The police will spin the events to get away with what they can. but yeah, he probably was affiliated but doing better from the looks of it.

[~J~]

i drove by Kollmar Drive earlier & saw "OFA MOB XIV" ???? wtf is that a new Varrio ..

OFA is an old crew, which started in LA.

Yeah, I'm thinking the OFA crew started in LA too. the San Jose OFA were taggers and I guess they are still around? I went to school with some of them, in fact... they were the ones that fell for the undercover sting in 94, I think most if not all their crew did. The "Hammer" went down in San Jose in more ways then one around that time courtesy of Susan and if you ask me... San Jose has not been the same ever since.

[~J~]

Maybe Alviso became it's own town? I always thought VSJ started in ESSJ. Maybe VSJ set up varrios in NSSJ & ESSJ around the same time. I don't even know if they're in ESSJ any more.

Alviso was it's own town up until it became San Jose in 1968, I'm 100% sure. speaking of VSJ, I saw one of them selling at the Flea Market.

[~J~]

Varrio Norte Homies & Varrio Norte Homeboys are both official names of VNH. The homeboy I told you was reppin' VNH did make it seem kind of inactive, & had some of his tat's removed.

Thanks for the correction on the N = Norte in VNH, I've been away from around that scene for a while as has VNH. I think they had 3 or 4 generations. Now I've been seening VNS up a few times around the old neighborhood I think it's a coincident... but you never know. Oh, I think VSJ~12Street~SJG only has 1 generation apiece and I think SJG was around the late 90's to early 2000's around VNH old turf.

Varrio Pachuco Town was in Downtown

I know Downtown pretty well I spent most of my life there and I've never heard the VPT being from Downtown, maybe they were from the ES of Downtown just East or SE of Roosevelt Park?

[~J~]

there was a Kmart there back then but i heard they tore it down and they set up a new store there ?

Ya, the new store is KOHL'S.

I use to go to that KMART back in the day.

[MMRbkaRudog]

i drove by Kollmar Drive earlier & saw "OFA MOB XIV" ???? wtf is that a new Varrio ..

OFA is an old crew, which started in LA.

Yeah, I'm thinking the OFA crew started in LA too. the San Jose OFA were taggers and I guess they are still around? I went to school with some of them, in fact... they were the ones that fell for the undercover sting in 94, I think most if not all their crew did. The "Hammer" went down in San Jose in more ways then one around that time courtesy of Susan and if you ask me... San Jose has not been the same ever since.

Ya, I'm still seeing OFA tags around. They seemed big where you went, but I also went to school with some. I haven't talked to some for a while, except for 1 of the ex-members. I know a lot of OFA did get caught up. Susan really was trying to drop the hammer down on gangs!

[MMRbkaRudog]

Maybe Alviso became it's own town? I always thought VSJ started in ESSJ. Maybe VSJ set up varrios in NSSJ & ESSJ around the same time. I don't even know if they're in ESSJ any more.

Alviso was it's own town up until it became San Jose in 1968, I'm 100% sure. speaking of VSJ, I saw one of them selling at the Flea Market.

It still seems to be considered it's own town. What flea market did you go to? Man, I feel like getting back to talking about the tagger scene? Do you remember MOF? They used to have funk with a bunch of writers.

[MMRbkaRudog]

Varrio Norte Homies & Varrio Norte Homeboys are both official names of VNH. The homeboy I told you was reppin' VNH did make it seem kind of inactive, & had some of his tat's removed.

Thanks for the correction on the N = Norte in VNH, I've been away from around that scene for a while as has VNH. I think they had 3 or 4 generations. Now I've been seening VNS up a few times around the old neighborhood I think it's a coincident... but you never know. Oh, I think VSJ~12Street~SJG only has 1 generation apiece and I think SJG was around the late 90's to early 2000's around VNH old turf.

Varrio Pachuco Town was in Downtown

I know Downtown pretty well I spent most of my life there and I've never heard the VPT being from Downtown, maybe they were from the ES of Downtown just East or SE of Roosevelt Park?

I remember SJG being around in 1996, where I think they first started & were still around a lil' while back. A girl I talked to from NSSJ a while back, kind of made it seem like VNS were still around a little. I know they seemed to be dying out a while back. Didn't they also use the initials BNS? I know 12 st had some older heads then me, but they still could been only 1 generation. I'm thinking VPT was probably from around those areas you mentioned to, but I don't know much about them.

[MMRbkaRudog]

there was a Kmart there back then but i heard they tore it down and they set up a new store there ?

Ya, the new store is KOHL'S.

I use to go to that KMART back in the day.

I used to work at K-MAT, back in the day.

[pistolslanga]

there was a Kmart there back then but i heard they tore it down and they set up a new store there ?

Ya, the new store is KOHL'S.

I use to go to that KMART back in the day.

I used to work at K-MAT, back in the day.

i used to steal from that k-mart back in the day









































fuck kohls

[KollmarVago408]

not only does Kolhs Suck but everything is hella expensive , i liked the big K mart better specially the Videogame section ...