why is black/african slavery & discrimination always so

[TAC MONSTER]

widely spoken about here in america & the slavery of other people isn't?

black/african slavery was talked about in my school & shown on tv programs but slavery of native americans & asians was not.i didn't even know other people were enslaved,segregated,lynched,& discriminated against here in america until i got out school.

where i grew up it was never talked about like african slavery & discrimination.is it historically not as important?

what do you think?

[MiChuhSuh]

Most Asians in general got over it, even with all the illegal bullsh*t that was enforced

Native Americans are too ignored, the ones still on reservations are still 100% affected by what happened to them but they are such a small minority that most people just overlook their problems.

[perongregory]

^^^true.

[carltouss619]

Most Asians in general got over it, even with all the illegal bullsh*t that was enforced

Native Americans are too ignored, the ones still on reservations are still 100% affected by what happened to them but they are such a small minority that most people just overlook their problems.

Well its easy to get over something thats very very very minimum compared to other. ANd Indian get dough and stay getting money from this country.

[NikexCortez]

^^ Slavery did not just happen in America. Asians had slavery to. Shit didn't every race. Even Africans used other Africans as slaves. Wasn't it the Africans who sold their own to the Caucasians....

[MiChuhSuh]

Most Asians in general got over it, even with all the illegal bullsh*t that was enforced

Native Americans are too ignored, the ones still on reservations are still 100% affected by what happened to them but they are such a small minority that most people just overlook their problems.

Well its easy to get over something thats very very very minimum compared to other. ANd Indian get dough and stay getting money from this country.

Within the past few generations, Asians (not just Japanese) were put in internment camps. Within the past few generations, we couldn't be citizens regardless of being born here. Within the past few generations, countries were given up to dictators, commies, fascists, and countless people died due to the compromising actions of the UN and US without a single American family ever hearing about it.

And even now, it is socially acceptable, and no one ever feels bad, about harassing and discriminating against Asians. If Dog's son was with an Asian girl and he called her a chink or gook, I guarantee not even a tabloid would have picked it up. Imus's career was torn to shreds for joking about "nappy headed hoes" when clearly a womens basketball team in a good university would not fit the description, but Rosie O'Donnell said "ching chong wong" openly on her show to the laughter of her audience, and no one lifter a finger.
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In at least 95% of the country, belittling Asians is cool and no one ever thinks twice about it, while if anyone does anything close to insulting blacks, they have to kiss asses and beg and cry their hearts out on tv, and it's usually other white people who go hard on whoever said it.

99% of Native Americans don't get sh*t from government or casino income. The few people who run the show take everything, and because most civic laws don't apply in territories, there is no need or pressure for more accountability. If you want to see ghetto, go to the center of a Navajo reservation in Arizona - people still living in tin shacks, kids running around with no shoes, and one school, yes just one school to cover the entire area's elementary, junior high, and high school needs. And since there is such a huge lack of teachers, many of the above mentioned groups are in the same class, struggling to get taught the same material.

[MiChuhSuh]

For the numbers people out there:

The following figures are from the 2005 American Community Survey, and include the household population only, which totalled 288,378,137, or 97% of the U.S. population at the time. People living in institutions, college dormitories, and other group quarters are not included. Per the survey, the U.S. population's racial distribution in 2005 was as follows:

* White alone: 74.7% or about 215.3 million
* Black or African American alone: 12.1% or 35.0 million
* Asian American alone: 4.3% or 12.5 million,
* American Indian or Alaska Native alone: 0.8% or 2.4 million
* Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander alone: 0.1% or 0.4 million
* Some other race alone: 6% or 17.3 million
* Two or more races 1.9% or 5.6 million

Each of the above categories includes people who identify their ethnicity as Hispanic or Latino. U.S. federal law defines Hispanic or Latino as any person with ancestry from a Latin American country or Spain, regardless of race.

* Hispanic or Latino of any race: 14.5% or about 41.9 million.

No one mentioned Hawaii here, they just got their whole country muscled out.

[perongregory]

Everyone got fuckedin America who wasn't white, usually the longer your people have been here and the least culturally white they are or willing to totally assimilate, the more you've been fucked and are going to continue to be fucked. In short, the Native Americans and the African-Americans.

[MiChuhSuh]

Considering many Koreans I know in LA that can barely speak English still, I wouldn't call it assimilation. Mostly they ignore the bullsh*t or take care of it themselves. People try to f*ck with them but most don't let the bullsh*t f*ck them up. Why do you think so many Koreans in and around LA started moving up by owning their own stores, no one would hire them, and most of their credentials/degrees meant nothing here.

[justice league]

Everyone got fuckedin America who wasn't white, usually the longer your people have been here and the least culturally white they are or willing to totally assimilate, the more you've been #%@& and are going to continue to be #%@&. In short, the Native Americans and the African-Americans.

dont kid yourself.. being white isnt a promise of priviledge... plenty of white people got assed out too.. Irish were considered scum of the earth.. .in this and other contexts like it, I think when you all refer to whites.. you mean Engish.

[perongregory]

Everyone got fuckedin America who wasn't white, usually the longer your people have been here and the least culturally white they are or willing to totally assimilate, the more you've been #%@& and are going to continue to be #%@&. In short, the Native Americans and the African-Americans.

dont kid yourself.. being white isnt a promise of priviledge... plenty of white people got assed out too.. Irish were considered scum of the earth.. .in this and other contexts like it, I think when you all refer to whites.. you mean Engish.

I was going to type them in, but after WWII the anglos accepted their European bretheren.

[Mcminister]

man white is white i hate wen people say irish people were looked at as scum bags..w.e with that look at ireland look at africa, look at wat opresion does to people.

peron is hella rite....i said it befo in htis forum white folk fkked up everyother race got greedy early and wanted everything to theyself

africa has slaved its own people but never discriminated the slave for being this and that..ther is hateration but not the intense discrimination faced by slaves here and the african people who in africa wen africa was still a big colony

[Sentenza]

Everyone got fuckedin America who wasn't white, usually the longer your people have been here and the least culturally white they are or willing to totally assimilate, the more you've been #%@& and are going to continue to be #%@&. In short, the Native Americans and the African-Americans.

dont kid yourself.. being white isnt a promise of priviledge... plenty of white people got assed out too.. Irish were considered scum of the earth.. .in this and other contexts like it, I think when you all refer to whites.. you mean Engish.

I was going to type them in, but after WWII the anglos accepted their European bretheren.

Since we are talking about the US i would have to agree. But thats not necessarily the case in the rest of the world.

[EmperorPenguin]

Everyone got fuckedin America who wasn't white, usually the longer your people have been here and the least culturally white they are or willing to totally assimilate, the more you've been #%@& and are going to continue to be #%@&. In short, the Native Americans and the African-Americans.

dont kid yourself.. being white isnt a promise of priviledge... plenty of white people got assed out too.. Irish were considered scum of the earth.. .in this and other contexts like it, I think when you all refer to whites.. you mean Engish.

I was going to type them in, but after WWII the anglos accepted their European bretheren.

I wouldn't even say English had it easy. At least not lower class. They may have settled in America first but those who came were more or less a science experiment for the higher class. They were sent with limited supplies, no knowledge of the "New World", told to trade with the natives who they knew nothing about and stuffed on boats ripe with disease. A lot of lower class English paid a hefty toll to try to develop in the new world. The higher class english shat on the lower class to fatten their pockets. Once that lower class took hold and basically became higher class they in turn shat all over the natives in turn to fatten their own pockets. And the cycle continues to this day.

A huge reason the Native Americans have such a small voice is because frankly they were murdered off a long time ago. Those that survived were more or less bought out by the government. That excuse lasts to this day "Shut up, we paid you off already." Here in Canada we're taught about the internment camps for the Japanese, we're taught about the Natives that were slaughtered, those that fought back, those Europeans that fought along side them. We're taught about the treaties, about the Catholic schools that took Natives from their homes in hopes of converting them and giving them a Christian life (a better life if you ask the Catholics). Most of these events turned out tragic, especially for the Natives. We're taught these things in the hopes of learning from them. That doesn't make things better, and I'm not saying we don't have a racial problem up here but realizing the mistakes made is a big step in fixing the problem.

I think ignoring problems, sugar coating problems, or just twisting the truth to make the fat cats look better will solve nothing. I think this is a large part of America's problem is the inability or refusal to accept the fact HUGE mistakes were made in the past and present.

[perongregory]

Everyone got fuckedin America who wasn't white, usually the longer your people have been here and the least culturally white they are or willing to totally assimilate, the more you've been #%@& and are going to continue to be #%@&. In short, the Native Americans and the African-Americans.

dont kid yourself.. being white isnt a promise of priviledge... plenty of white people got assed out too.. Irish were considered scum of the earth.. .in this and other contexts like it, I think when you all refer to whites.. you mean Engish.

I was going to type them in, but after WWII the anglos accepted their European bretheren.

Since we are talking about the US i would have to agree. But thats not necessarily the case in the rest of the world.

I know this but Europe is changing, they are becoming more globalized, more unified. Whites still have the same BS as every other race, they just know when to cut it out for the sum benefit.

[perongregory]

Everyone got fuckedin America who wasn't white, usually the longer your people have been here and the least culturally white they are or willing to totally assimilate, the more you've been #%@& and are going to continue to be #%@&. In short, the Native Americans and the African-Americans.

dont kid yourself.. being white isnt a promise of priviledge... plenty of white people got assed out too.. Irish were considered scum of the earth.. .in this and other contexts like it, I think when you all refer to whites.. you mean Engish.

I was going to type them in, but after WWII the anglos accepted their European bretheren.

I wouldn't even say English had it easy. At least not lower class. They may have settled in America first but those who came were more or less a science experiment for the higher class. They were sent with limited supplies, no knowledge of the "New World", told to trade with the natives who they knew nothing about and stuffed on boats ripe with disease. A lot of lower class English paid a hefty toll to try to develop in the new world. The higher class english shat on the lower class to fatten their pockets. Once that lower class took hold and basically became higher class they in turn shat all over the natives in turn to fatten their own pockets. And the cycle continues to this day.

A huge reason the Native Americans have such a small voice is because frankly they were murdered off a long time ago. Those that survived were more or less bought out by the government. That excuse lasts to this day "Shut up, we paid you off already." Here in Canada we're taught about the internment camps for the Japanese, we're taught about the Natives that were slaughtered, those that fought back, those Europeans that fought along side them. We're taught about the treaties, about the Catholic schools that took Natives from their homes in hopes of converting them and giving them a Christian life (a better life if you ask the Catholics). Most of these events turned out tragic, especially for the Natives. We're taught these things in the hopes of learning from them. That doesn't make things better, and I'm not saying we don't have a racial problem up here but realizing the mistakes made is a big step in fixing the problem.

I think ignoring problems, sugar coating problems, or just twisting the truth to make the fat cats look better will solve nothing. I think this is a large part of America's problem is the inability or refusal to accept the fact HUGE mistakes were made in the past and present.

classcism will always be the worst problem, but racism has become its own seperate monster, sometimes subverting classcism. This is why those marginalized English (early Americans) acted as they did towards Natives, Irish, Africans, and such.

[EmperorPenguin]

Everyone got fuckedin America who wasn't white, usually the longer your people have been here and the least culturally white they are or willing to totally assimilate, the more you've been #%@& and are going to continue to be #%@&. In short, the Native Americans and the African-Americans.

dont kid yourself.. being white isnt a promise of priviledge... plenty of white people got assed out too.. Irish were considered scum of the earth.. .in this and other contexts like it, I think when you all refer to whites.. you mean Engish.

I was going to type them in, but after WWII the anglos accepted their European bretheren.

I wouldn't even say English had it easy. At least not lower class. They may have settled in America first but those who came were more or less a science experiment for the higher class. They were sent with limited supplies, no knowledge of the "New World", told to trade with the natives who they knew nothing about and stuffed on boats ripe with disease. A lot of lower class English paid a hefty toll to try to develop in the new world. The higher class english shat on the lower class to fatten their pockets. Once that lower class took hold and basically became higher class they in turn shat all over the natives in turn to fatten their own pockets. And the cycle continues to this day.

A huge reason the Native Americans have such a small voice is because frankly they were murdered off a long time ago. Those that survived were more or less bought out by the government. That excuse lasts to this day "Shut up, we paid you off already." Here in Canada we're taught about the internment camps for the Japanese, we're taught about the Natives that were slaughtered, those that fought back, those Europeans that fought along side them. We're taught about the treaties, about the Catholic schools that took Natives from their homes in hopes of converting them and giving them a Christian life (a better life if you ask the Catholics). Most of these events turned out tragic, especially for the Natives. We're taught these things in the hopes of learning from them. That doesn't make things better, and I'm not saying we don't have a racial problem up here but realizing the mistakes made is a big step in fixing the problem.

I think ignoring problems, sugar coating problems, or just twisting the truth to make the fat cats look better will solve nothing. I think this is a large part of America's problem is the inability or refusal to accept the fact HUGE mistakes were made in the past and present.

classcism will always be the worst problem, but racism has become its own seperate monster, sometimes subverting classcism. This is why those marginalized English (early Americans) acted as they did towards Natives, Irish, Africans, and such.

My post was here all of like 45 seconds before you responded. I don't even know how you read that and responded so quick.

I'm not sure I follow your response. Are you saying the early English acted with classism with a hint of racism, or vice versa? I believe the very first settlers, those lower class English were acting as they were told by the rich back home. They attempted to trade with the locals and when that didn't really go as planned the rich basically said "We'll send re-enforcements, just wipe them out." though Old World diseases played a big role in that too. I don't think the initially settlers had racism or classism in mind seeing as they were on the bottom of the pile too. I'd agree it got to Classism with hints of racism early on against the natives when money started playing a role. The new english were working with natives for quite some time creating the new world tabacco to send back home, once the rich back home wanted to get richer, shit hit the fan in America. I believe it had more to do with class then it did race but both did play major roles.

I always feel that language plays a role too. That barrier is tough to break and misunderstandings can happen very easily. The settlers traded and worked with the natives of America early on, being accepted into the natives tribes and what not. It didn't take long for the settlers to misunderstand traditions and certain rules before they started pissing off the Natives.

[perongregory]

Everyone got fuckedin America who wasn't white, usually the longer your people have been here and the least culturally white they are or willing to totally assimilate, the more you've been #%@& and are going to continue to be #%@&. In short, the Native Americans and the African-Americans.

dont kid yourself.. being white isnt a promise of priviledge... plenty of white people got assed out too.. Irish were considered scum of the earth.. .in this and other contexts like it, I think when you all refer to whites.. you mean Engish.

I was going to type them in, but after WWII the anglos accepted their European bretheren.

I wouldn't even say English had it easy. At least not lower class. They may have settled in America first but those who came were more or less a science experiment for the higher class. They were sent with limited supplies, no knowledge of the "New World", told to trade with the natives who they knew nothing about and stuffed on boats ripe with disease. A lot of lower class English paid a hefty toll to try to develop in the new world. The higher class english shat on the lower class to fatten their pockets. Once that lower class took hold and basically became higher class they in turn shat all over the natives in turn to fatten their own pockets. And the cycle continues to this day.

A huge reason the Native Americans have such a small voice is because frankly they were murdered off a long time ago. Those that survived were more or less bought out by the government. That excuse lasts to this day "Shut up, we paid you off already." Here in Canada we're taught about the internment camps for the Japanese, we're taught about the Natives that were slaughtered, those that fought back, those Europeans that fought along side them. We're taught about the treaties, about the Catholic schools that took Natives from their homes in hopes of converting them and giving them a Christian life (a better life if you ask the Catholics). Most of these events turned out tragic, especially for the Natives. We're taught these things in the hopes of learning from them. That doesn't make things better, and I'm not saying we don't have a racial problem up here but realizing the mistakes made is a big step in fixing the problem.

I think ignoring problems, sugar coating problems, or just twisting the truth to make the fat cats look better will solve nothing. I think this is a large part of America's problem is the inability or refusal to accept the fact HUGE mistakes were made in the past and present.

classcism will always be the worst problem, but racism has become its own seperate monster, sometimes subverting classcism. This is why those marginalized English (early Americans) acted as they did towards Natives, Irish, Africans, and such.

My post was here all of like 45 seconds before you responded. I don't even know how you read that and responded so quick.

I'm not sure I follow your response. Are you saying the early English acted with classism with a hint of racism, or vice versa? I believe the very first settlers, those lower class English were acting as they were told by the rich back home. They attempted to trade with the locals and when that didn't really go as planned the rich basically said "We'll send re-enforcements, just wipe them out." though Old World diseases played a big role in that too. I don't think the initially settlers had racism or classism in mind seeing as they were on the bottom of the pile too. I'd agree it got to Classism with hints of racism early on against the natives when money started playing a role. The new english were working with natives for quite some time creating the new world tabacco to send back home, once the rich back home wanted to get richer, shit hit the fan in America. I believe it had more to do with class then it did race but both did play major roles.

I always feel that language plays a role too. That barrier is tough to break and misunderstandings can happen very easily. The settlers traded and worked with the natives of America early on, being accepted into the natives tribes and what not. It didn't take long for the settlers to misunderstand traditions and certain rules before they started pissing off the Natives.

I read what you wrote, and agree with most of it, what I wrote was more of a statement following one thing you addressed in your comment. It wasn't really a response. I read fast, what can I say?

[eMachine]

Don't forget the US Germans during WWII. They got plopped into camps in the SW near Mexico.

Just about every group has been a slave to some other group. Natives to the Euros, Euros to the Romans, Africans, Asians, Hebrews to the Egyptians, Brits took England from the Celts (Irish) then Ireland and just about starved the Irish to death and on and on.