New York is not America's Safest City

[Mcminister]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

[A Ghost]

No, it's about my job.

So you admit that the FBI are the ones who create the UCR reports right?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

And Im sure there are LAPD officers that would respond to a murder call every day. You should have a talk with the LA county coroners officer and see how safe LA is.... lmao

You keep forgetting theres a difference between tenements in single family neighborhoods.

If LA had tenements Im sure their murder rate would be a lot higher than New York City's....

[A Ghost]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

[A Ghost]

And if a medium sized city like Buffalo is like that then imagine what a major city like LA is like.....

[Mcminister]

new york isnt that that rough as a whole..or as new yorkers think they are...but they dangerous parts its dangerous..thin buot it the population is so big....manhattan is soo crime free and its 1mill +....brooklyn got alot of crime but half the place is white and dats another mill + coz brooklyn got 2 million people...and queens 2mill +..and staten island damn.

someone need to brake the crime rate up into boroughs as if the boroughs were cities and lets see teh stats..i dono

[A Ghost]

new york isnt that that rough as a whole..or as new yorkers think they are...but they dangerous parts its dangerous..thin buot it the population is so big....manhattan is soo crime free and its 1mill +....brooklyn got alot of crime but half the place is white and dats another mill + coz brooklyn got 2 million people...and queens 2mill +..and staten island damn.

someone need to brake the crime rate up into boroughs as if the boroughs were cities and lets see teh stats..i dono

I actually agree with you, it would cut out a lot of confusion.

Major American cities should do that across the board.

Instead of rating the entire city, do it by sections. Do it by neighborhoods....

[EmperorPenguin]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

[A Ghost]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

There aint no moose or wolves in Buffalo...

[EmperorPenguin]

new york isnt that that rough as a whole..or as new yorkers think they are...but they dangerous parts its dangerous..thin buot it the population is so big....manhattan is soo crime free and its 1mill +....brooklyn got alot of crime but half the place is white and dats another mill + coz brooklyn got 2 million people...and queens 2mill +..and staten island damn.

someone need to brake the crime rate up into boroughs as if the boroughs were cities and lets see teh stats..i dono

I actually agree with you, it would cut out a lot of confusion.

Major American cities should do that across the board.

Instead of rating the entire city, do it by sections. Do it by neighborhoods....

If you do that, you're splitting hairs. The sole purpose is to give the public a general idea. I'd be willing to bet all those stats are on record you just have to find them yourself. Back in Edmonton we had crime stats broken down to each individual neighborhood, we're talking sub-sections of areas no more then 5 city blocks big. So precise that you could find out how many types of Honda Civics from 1994 were stolen in Richfield in 2002 between the months of January and April. It's all there if you want to look it up, it's just of no use to make all those records published in the local news because it's overkill.

[EmperorPenguin]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

There aint no moose or wolves in Buffalo...

Well not anymore, because they're being shot constantly! Hence the gun shots. DUH!

[A Ghost]

new york isnt that that rough as a whole..or as new yorkers think they are...but they dangerous parts its dangerous..thin buot it the population is so big....manhattan is soo crime free and its 1mill +....brooklyn got alot of crime but half the place is white and dats another mill + coz brooklyn got 2 million people...and queens 2mill +..and staten island damn.

someone need to brake the crime rate up into boroughs as if the boroughs were cities and lets see teh stats..i dono

I actually agree with you, it would cut out a lot of confusion.

Major American cities should do that across the board.

Instead of rating the entire city, do it by sections. Do it by neighborhoods....

If you do that, you're splitting hairs. The sole purpose is to give the public a general idea. I'd be willing to bet all those stats are on record you just have to find them yourself. Back in Edmonton we had crime stats broken down to each individual neighborhood, we're talking sub-sections of areas no more then 5 city blocks big. So precise that you could find out how many types of Honda Civics from 1994 were stolen in Richfield in 2002 between the months of January and April. It's all there if you want to look it up, it's just of no use to make all those records published in the local news because it's overkill.

All they would have to do is publish the top 25 most dangerous neighborhoods instead of the top 25 cities.

Neighborhoods are much more accurate than painting an entire brush over a city....

[A Ghost]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

There aint no moose or wolves in Buffalo...

Well not anymore, because they're being shot constantly! Hence the gun shots. DUH!

lol

Buffalo isnt exactly the woods man....

[Mcminister]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

wen i hear them on some app. buildin i don duck but...wen im on the fisrt floor i ain gon lie i usualy put my head down shiit i ain finna be no victim.



im pretty sure if they counted it by neighborhoods NY and LA hoods will occupy the top 30

new orleans will have like 5 hoods in the top 10


not neighborhoods coz dats too small...maybe like...south side , westside, northside, eastside or somthin

[A Ghost]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

wen i hear them on some app. buildin i don duck but...wen im on the fisrt floor i ain gon lie i usualy put my head down shiit i ain finna be no victim.



im pretty sure if they counted it by neighborhoods NY and LA hoods will occupy the top 30

new orleans will have like 5 hoods in the top 10


not neighborhoods coz dats too small...maybe like...south side , westside, northside, eastside or somthin

Thats not a bad idea.

Do Gary, Compton and Camden have North/South/East/West sides? Are they big enough?

[A Ghost]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

Well Im talking about little kids. Kids arent too concerned with that they just wanna play.

Older guys yeah I suppose....

[Mcminister]

or jst split teh big cities...

or jst have another list of stats strickly for neighbourhoods....u wont c aloot of them top cities no more...somewhere like filmore in frisco will pop up...frisco ain neva seen u mite think its the safest city in the world till u go to hunters point

[UrbanStreets]

No, it's about my job.

So you admit that the FBI are the ones who create the UCR reports right?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

And Im sure there are LAPD officers that would respond to a murder call every day. You should have a talk with the LA county coroners officer and see how safe LA is.... lmao

You keep forgetting theres a difference between tenements in single family neighborhoods.

If LA had tenements Im sure their murder rate would be a lot higher than New York City's....

What in the HELL are you talking about? It makes absolutely zero sense.

I'm admitting nothing, no I do not work for the FBI. Yes, I did work for NYPD and am disgruntled by some of their negative behavior. I know nothing about the corruption of NYPD, it was a rumor going around the city and the officers. Whether this is true is not to be determined by me. Do I think it is a corrupt department? Yes, in a way. Did I get discpatched to murders every day? No, nobody does. It just seems like a city like New York would have more murders than 500, which actually is a lot when you think about it. New York has more nutcases than any city in America, other than Chicago, my third favorite city.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

[A Ghost]

No, it's about my job.

So you admit that the FBI are the ones who create the UCR reports right?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

And Im sure there are LAPD officers that would respond to a murder call every day. You should have a talk with the LA county coroners officer and see how safe LA is.... lmao

You keep forgetting theres a difference between tenements in single family neighborhoods.

If LA had tenements Im sure their murder rate would be a lot higher than New York City's....

What in the HELL are you talking about? It makes absolutely zero sense.

I'm admitting nothing, no I do not work for the FBI. Yes, I did work for NYPD and am disgruntled by some of their negative behavior. I know nothing about the corruption of NYPD, it was a rumor going around the city and the officers. Whether this is true is not to be determined by me. Do I think it is a corrupt department? Yes, in a way. Did I get discpatched to murders every day? No, nobody does. It just seems like a city like New York would have more murders than 500, which actually is a lot when you think about it. New York has more nutcases than any city in America, other than Chicago, my third favorite city.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

New York neighborhoods are safer than neighborhoods in the most dangerous cities in America.

Get over it.

There might be a handful of NYC neighborhoods that rival the most dangerous cities but that's about it, just a handful.

LA is no different.

Both are major cities and both suffer the same problems.

I dont care how much college you have. You need a reality check and a CAT scan if you think high crime neighborhoods are somehow safer in LA than NY.

You admit that the FBI are the ones who actually compile the crime reports.

Not some "random guy off yahoo" as you put it.

Correct?

[A Ghost]

If NYPD is covering up this extremely valuable information don't you think you should actually be doing something about it instead of typing on a website making light of LA crime rates?

If I knew my police agency was covering up crime stats I would be running to the news channels.

CNN, NBC, MSNBC, Channel 4, ESPN, WHOEVER!


But not FOX news they can such a dick. lol

[UrbanStreets]

No, it's about my job.

So you admit that the FBI are the ones who create the UCR reports right?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

And Im sure there are LAPD officers that would respond to a murder call every day. You should have a talk with the LA county coroners officer and see how safe LA is.... lmao

You keep forgetting theres a difference between tenements in single family neighborhoods.

If LA had tenements Im sure their murder rate would be a lot higher than New York City's....

What in the HELL are you talking about? It makes absolutely zero sense.

I'm admitting nothing, no I do not work for the FBI. Yes, I did work for NYPD and am disgruntled by some of their negative behavior. I know nothing about the corruption of NYPD, it was a rumor going around the city and the officers. Whether this is true is not to be determined by me. Do I think it is a corrupt department? Yes, in a way. Did I get discpatched to murders every day? No, nobody does. It just seems like a city like New York would have more murders than 500, which actually is a lot when you think about it. New York has more nutcases than any city in America, other than Chicago, my third favorite city.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

New York neighborhoods are safer than neighborhoods in the most dangerous cities in America.

Get over it.

There might be a handful of NYC neighborhoods that rival the most dangerous cities but that's about it, just a handful.

LA is no different.

Both are major cities and both suffer the same problems.

I dont care how much college you have. You need a reality check and a CAT scan if you think high crime neighborhoods are somehow safer in LA than NY.

You admit that the FBI are the ones who actually compile the crime reports.

Not some "random guy off yahoo" as you put it.

Correct?

I know the FBI does these things, but the stats are given to them by the police departments, then a journalist will write articles on it and sometimes twist the real stats up and make them somewhat false.

[A Ghost]

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

People clown on New Yorkers because they are sick and tired of New Yorkers acting like they are from the worst place on the planet when its not true.

People are sick of their uppity ass attitudes too.

I know 15 year olds from Niagara Falls that would have put a bullet in the head of the most hardened criminal from NYC. And I live in a small city with a moderate crime rate.

You can get bodied in any city in America. Inner city America is the same no matter where you go.

[A Ghost]

No, it's about my job.

So you admit that the FBI are the ones who create the UCR reports right?

Maybe. Releasing crime stats wasn't my job on NYPD, but it just SEEMED like every day I'd be dispacthed to a shots fired and the person would be dead when we got to the scene. Funny, because that would mean I was called to 365 out of the supposedly 500 murders in the city. Whatever, I am no longer an officer there and I do not wish to get involved with that job again. Fun times but also miserable times.

And Im sure there are LAPD officers that would respond to a murder call every day. You should have a talk with the LA county coroners officer and see how safe LA is.... lmao

You keep forgetting theres a difference between tenements in single family neighborhoods.

If LA had tenements Im sure their murder rate would be a lot higher than New York City's....

What in the HELL are you talking about? It makes absolutely zero sense.

I'm admitting nothing, no I do not work for the FBI. Yes, I did work for NYPD and am disgruntled by some of their negative behavior. I know nothing about the corruption of NYPD, it was a rumor going around the city and the officers. Whether this is true is not to be determined by me. Do I think it is a corrupt department? Yes, in a way. Did I get discpatched to murders every day? No, nobody does. It just seems like a city like New York would have more murders than 500, which actually is a lot when you think about it. New York has more nutcases than any city in America, other than Chicago, my third favorite city.

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

New York neighborhoods are safer than neighborhoods in the most dangerous cities in America.

Get over it.

There might be a handful of NYC neighborhoods that rival the most dangerous cities but that's about it, just a handful.

LA is no different.

Both are major cities and both suffer the same problems.

I dont care how much college you have. You need a reality check and a CAT scan if you think high crime neighborhoods are somehow safer in LA than NY.

You admit that the FBI are the ones who actually compile the crime reports.

Not some "random guy off yahoo" as you put it.

Correct?

I know the FBI does these things, but the stats are given to them by the police departments, then a journalist will write articles on it and sometimes twist the real stats up and make them somewhat false.

Journalists might add a few extra words here and there like "warzone" and "killzone" but the fact of the matter is the FBI is not wrong. And exaggeration always has some bit of truth to it.

[Mcminister]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

[UrbanStreets]

New York is not copying Los Angeles, but Los Angeles copied New York. Los Angeles gangs were influenced by New York, Chicago and Miami gangs. 'Tis the truth!

[A Ghost]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

[EmperorPenguin]

isnt it suppose to be oposite the more the gun shots heard the more the duck..coz people catch strays u don wana be a victim

wen i hear them on some app. buildin i don duck but...wen im on the fisrt floor i ain gon lie i usualy put my head down shiit i ain finna be no victim.



im pretty sure if they counted it by neighborhoods NY and LA hoods will occupy the top 30

new orleans will have like 5 hoods in the top 10


not neighborhoods coz dats too small...maybe like...south side , westside, northside, eastside or somthin

Thats not a bad idea.

Do Gary, Compton and Camden have North/South/East/West sides? Are they big enough?

Again, the more hairs you split, the smaller the sections get. Does it create a more accurate picture? Most likely. Unfortunately the more you cut it into pieces the more pieces you have to deal with which means more numbers for a person to sift through. What I'm saying is, all that information is great, and I'd be willing to bet it's all available to you online through local county or neighborhood police forces but YOU have to find it. To come out and publish a neighborhood, or county based crime stats would be endless and pointless for the average person.

Sure when a stat comes out saying "Los Angeles is one of the most dangerous cities to live in" what they probably mean is a small cross section of a certain part of the greater LA area is statistically more dangerous then other parts but some of the onus has to be on the reader to dig deeper to find the truth out.

[UrbanStreets]

I am proud that everybody thinks New York is safe, but I'm here to tell you it's not. I've been browsing this site fora while before I registered and it shocked me that so many people are here saying "New York is soft." New York is not soft at all, grow up. Any city with 500+ murders is not soft. Get a grip.

People clown on New Yorkers because they are sick and tired of New Yorkers acting like they are from the worst place on the planet when its not true.

People are sick of their uppity ass attitudes too.

I know 15 year olds from Niagara Falls that would have put a bullet in the head of the most hardened criminal from NYC. And I live in a small city with a moderate crime rate.

You can get bodied in any city in America. Inner city America is the same no matter where you go.

Dude, a Niagara Falls kid running up on a kid from Little Italy wouldn't work out well for Mr. Niagara Falls. lol It just wouldn't.

[UrbanStreets]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

Yeah, you do that. There are only about 100 of them up there right now at the Falls. Head over there, tough guy! Come on, don't be shy... New Yorkers are pussies...

[Mcminister]

hahahaahahaahha

nah man they gon switch the story aruond and say they slipped while tryin to chase u down the block

[EmperorPenguin]

in houston people are actually complainin that the police is covering up murders...word i heard it in the news and the radio and it is actually true...HPD is covering up murders but i didnt really get into it


what dude is sayin bout new york is true in a strange way, like yea new york is safest big city w.e...but brownsville , bushwick, Bed StY(the dangerous side) are very rough places ...i think rougher than places alot of other cities which are considered dangerous places.....harlem is really safe..i stayed there for like 6 days...and it was the fisrt time i went 5 days witout hearin a gun shot.

yea they don have no more dead cops in oakland coz the cops dont come across the brollin 100's unless somebody dead.

Kids in Buffalo don't even run inside the house anymore when they hear gunshots on the block.

They are so immune to it they just keep playing hop scotch and drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.....

No different than NYC...

In my city if you hear gun shots no one cares either. That's because most people think someone shot a moose or a wolf or something to that affect.

There aint no moose or wolves in Buffalo...

Well not anymore, because they're being shot constantly! Hence the gun shots. DUH!

lol

Buffalo isnt exactly the woods man....

The weird thing is I saw more road kill on the QE on my way to Buffalo then I did driving the Alaska Highway numerous times, we're talking 5000+ miles of driving. Porcupine, skunks, deer, all sorts of crazy animals.

[A Ghost]

New York is not copying Los Angeles, but Los Angeles copied New York. Los Angeles gangs were influenced by New York, Chicago and Miami gangs. 'Tis the truth!

Tis lunatic talk!

Watch "Bastards of the Party" and educate yourself.


When the CIA broke apart the Black Panther Party in LA they took away the only thing that effectively policed the hood.

Then the Crips were born. They had absolutely NO ties to NYC at all. They modeled themselves after the Panthers who were originally from Oakland. Then the Bloods formed to protect themselves against the Crips.

Now tell me, where in that timeline do you see any New York connections?

[EmperorPenguin]

A ghost must really hate those...big sweater wearing, fake blood claimin, 5 different 10 pound chain hangin, chucks in the winter wearin,wake up different gang claimin,always hatin, uncle murder listenin, compton copyin, boyz n the hood 5 time watchin, "Son""word" sayin, over cocky folks in new york..

Put it this way.

The next time a New Yorker comes out here and tries some shit with me Im throwin his ass off a porch.

And no, Im not talking about the ones 3 feet off the ground. Im talking the ones 10 feet off the ground.

I'm not trying to shit on your or anything but I loved Buffalo. Great people, and aside from the odd seedy area I felt way more safe there then I did in Los Angeles or even Toronto.