

alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?
I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.


alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?
I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.

alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?
I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.



MiChuhSuh wrote:alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?
I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.
Another ignorant basis for voting and another media agenda.
I don't f*cking care about his "race" (another social invention) or what he looks like or what his parents look or or their parents... etc etc etc.
Basically as viable candidates, it's him or Hillary. I voted for Obama because I'm indepedant and CA Republicans don't let undeclareds vote in their primary but more importantly because I feel his position on foreign policy was more constructive.
F*ck all the other bullsh*t.

clipse wrote:alexalonso wrote:if Obama wins would you really consider him a black president? He is more like a mixed cat, right down the middle. Look at his family fotos. How many consider Vanessa Williams, the first black Miss America? Are we still be brainwashed by the colonial view of blackness defined by 1/16 blood black makes you all black?
I want to see a Samuel Jackson looking man run, or Shaq O'Neal looking guy. Obama is the Tiger Woods version of politics.
I hope you're joking. And what do you think those other ones you mentioned would find if thy traced their roots??


Old Shatterhand wrote:The guy promises a lot but provides almost no information on how he intends to bring all this sweeping change and fulfill all these lofty promises. I never trust people like that no matter who they are. If they can't tell me what they are going to do and how they are going to do it, they don't even deserve a listen imo.
Boo Boo the Foo wrote:How could you call an all white gang racist, but all latino gangs and all black gangs are not ?
makes no sense.


StoneGreaser wrote:What qualifications does Osama have? I mean, the guy is a political lightweight here in Illiinois, doesn't hardly know his way around. I can dig it if ya str8 vote for the cat cause he's got Black blood in him, but is there any other justification???
Boo Boo the Foo wrote:How could you call an all white gang racist, but all latino gangs and all black gangs are not ?
makes no sense.


Old Shatterhand wrote:The guy promises a lot but provides almost no information on how he intends to bring all this sweeping change and fulfill all these lofty promises. I never trust people like that no matter who they are. If they can't tell me what they are going to do and how they are going to do it, they don't even deserve a listen imo.


punamusta wrote:Have you looked up the corporations that support Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain? For many parts those corporations are same. So no matter who you choose (or more correctly who will be chosen for you like in the previous elections), the final outcome is the same. All these candidates mentioned are same. They are all rich and privileged, all have long ago become estranged from the reality of a normal citizen, and they share the same basic views.
They might look different, and they might even speak slightly differently before the elections, but when any of these candidates gets elected he/she will have to answer to a lot of his/her financial supporters. Those big corporations have bought their candidate and you can be sure that they want him/her to take care of their needs. And besides, all candidates have same kind of advisors behind them. All neo-conservatives, all pro-war.
So basically you get to choose from the tie colour your future president has. Either he has a blue tie or a red tie. Or in Hillary's case no tie at all. That's it.
All you get by your vote is an illusion of democracy for the next 4 years.
So don't vote at all. That's my advice. You can't lose by that way anymore than by voting. But you can win more as a very low voting percentage would force your elite to re-think the whole consept of your so-called democracy.

Sentenza wrote:My country is the perfect example for that.

Sentenza wrote:
I wonder what would happen if they would make private financing of election campaigns illegal. Because basically its corruption. Private companies pay the candidates to establish laws which are in their favour. Its simply just corruption.
I have to say though Puna, that choices are always very limited, in every democracy, but that still is better than having no choice.
My country is the perfect example for that.


Old Shatterhand wrote:Just finished his boring 100% liberal pretending to be a moderate book. It's pretty much what I thought it would be. He should be a youth counselor but not President of the USA. He has a lot of mixed up incomplete ideas he wraps in platitudes. The man isn't qualified. Reminds me of how a pick up artist works: they bypass the logic centers of the brain and go straight for the limbic system.
Barack Hussain Obama offers no real solutions to government problems in this book and his dream is one of some Marxist derivative. Translation: Huge government and higher taxes. Block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, state by state means transforming the USA in a typical neo-liberal authoritarian manner towards a failed model.
Once you wade through all the psychobabble, that's what the guy is all about imo. The New Left built the coffin and the Neo-Conservatives hammered in most of the nails but he'll finish the job for sure. Don't drink the kool-aid kids. Just say no or we sink in a sea debt and a lack of innovation.


punamusta wrote:Have you looked up the corporations that support Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain? For many parts those corporations are same. So no matter who you choose (or more correctly who will be chosen for you like in the previous elections), the final outcome is the same. All these candidates mentioned are same. They are all rich and privileged, all have long ago become estranged from the reality of a normal citizen, and they share the same basic views.
They might look different, and they might even speak slightly differently before the elections, but when any of these candidates gets elected he/she will have to answer to a lot of his/her financial supporters. Those big corporations have bought their candidate and you can be sure that they want him/her to take care of their needs. And besides, all candidates have same kind of advisors behind them. All neo-conservatives, all pro-war.
So basically you get to choose from the tie colour your future president has. Either he has a blue tie or a red tie. Or in Hillary's case no tie at all. That's it.
All you get by your vote is an illusion of democracy for the next 4 years.
So don't vote at all. That's my advice. You can't lose by that way anymore than by voting. But you can win more as a very low voting percentage would force your elite to re-think the whole consept of your so-called democracy.

Old Shatterhand wrote:Just finished his boring 100% liberal pretending to be a moderate book. It's pretty much what I thought it would be. He should be a youth counselor but not President of the USA. He has a lot of mixed up incomplete ideas he wraps in platitudes. The man isn't qualified. Reminds me of how a pick up artist works: they bypass the logic centers of the brain and go straight for the limbic system.
Barack Hussain Obama offers no real solutions to government problems in this book and his dream is one of some Marxist derivative. Translation: Huge government and higher taxes. Block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, state by state means transforming the USA in a typical neo-liberal authoritarian manner towards a failed model.
Once you wade through all the psychobabble, that's what the guy is all about imo. The New Left built the coffin and the Neo-Conservatives hammered in most of the nails but he'll finish the job for sure. Don't drink the kool-aid kids. Just say no or we sink in a sea debt and a lack of innovation.

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