Zeitgeist

[Dregsta]

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Heres a really good documentary everyone MUST WATCH!Forget 2012 and all that metaphysical shit that you can't prove, this is the REAL DEAL!

America certainly needs to wake the fcuk up, like the rest of this world needs to wake and smell the BS!History repeats itself but when it does do people take notice?America is going down the drain and it is time to get mad!

[Dregsta]

bump

[whiskeyjack]

america is in recession and whatever and deals like these are going down
http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=380134

[A-GAME]

man i love this movie...

[DeaD-SouL]

It was good you can watch it on video google

[sickside]

I just saw this movie the other day, and it was a real good movie! I have told a lot of friends about this movie to watch and keep there mind open. So far one friend says am mad and an other is mad. But for the most part every one else thinks this movie should be blasted on the movie screen

[whiskeyjack]

lookslike there is a 2nd one

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7695921912

[StillNoScript]

There's more proof that Christianity is made up than there is that Christianity is legitimate, that's for sure. And tons more. But hard core Christians will tell you that ALL OF IT is a test to see if you'll still believe, even in light of the evidence that there's no such thing.

[MMRbkaRudog]

There's more proof that Christianity is made up than there is that Christianity is legitimate, that's for sure. And tons more. But hard core Christians will tell you that ALL OF IT is a test to see if you'll still believe, even in light of the evidence that there's no such thing.

More proof? Funny how you take conspiracy theories as proof.

[StillNoScript]

There's more proof that Christianity is made up than there is that Christianity is legitimate, that's for sure. And tons more. But hard core Christians will tell you that ALL OF IT is a test to see if you'll still believe, even in light of the evidence that there's no such thing.

More proof? Funny how you take conspiracy theories as proof.

Funny how you make a conspiracy theory your religion.

[MMRbkaRudog]

There's more proof that Christianity is made up than there is that Christianity is legitimate, that's for sure. And tons more. But hard core Christians will tell you that ALL OF IT is a test to see if you'll still believe, even in light of the evidence that there's no such thing.

More proof? Funny how you take conspiracy theories as proof.

Funny how you make a conspiracy theory your religion.

To each his own, but I've seen people to quick to believe in conspiracy theories. Like some stuff that 1 person made up & put out there for people to be too quick to believe. Some of these believers will say to disprove it, when it wasn't even proved in the 1st place.

[StillNoScript]

I've seen people to quick to believe in conspiracy theories.

Tell me about it. Like religious people.

[MMRbkaRudog]

I've seen people to quick to believe in conspiracy theories.

Tell me about it. Like religious people.

Alright man, but some of these conspiracy theories are obvious lies.

[StillNoScript]

I've seen people to quick to believe in conspiracy theories.

Tell me about it. Like religious people.

Alright man, but some of these conspiracy theories are obvious lies.

...Like all religions.

[whiskeyjack]

Would going back too a gold standard be one the alternatives for the world economy instead of relying on the American dollar?

[whiskeyjack]

Would going back too a gold standard be one the alternatives for the world economy instead of relying on the American dollar?

i meant government "fiat" currency

[MMRbkaRudog]

...Like all religions.

I have to disagree with you on that.

[razbojnik]

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Heres a really good documentary everyone MUST WATCH!Forget 2012 and all that metaphysical shit that you can't prove, this is the REAL DEAL!

America certainly needs to wake the fcuk up, like the rest of this world needs to wake and smell the BS!History repeats itself but when it does do people take notice?America is going down the drain and it is time to get mad!

IF YOU OPPRESS PEOPLE THEY WILL RISE UP IN A FIREY ANGER!!!

[razbojnik]

Would going back too a gold standard be one the alternatives for the world economy instead of relying on the American dollar?

i meant government "fiat" currency

Why should gold be a medium of exchange? Paper is easier to produce...gold is just. Idk..

It is an alternative, but it's an impossible alternative. The world is now more towards using electronic money as a medium of exchange rather than something physical, hence the RFID chips in the future and credit cards now. It's the think tanks working for the guys on top making these things up. The world will never be a one world government, it will never be totalitarian, as I said, people will rise up in a fiery anger if they begin to feel oppressed. This is why they are doing it slowly and getting people more used and used to the feeling of being oppressed. Time helps here, too. For example, if my grandfather was alive right now, he knew that Yugoslavia was the best place to live, he knew there was the most freedom there could possibly be, if he was to all of a sudden be a 30 year old man in today's world, aka Yugoslavia's freedom turns into today's freedom overnight, he'd snap a bit. That's why when one generation dies you, you teach the newer generation to get used to the idea of this and that, something that would've been obviously oppressive and totalitarian 50 years ago is now normal and is within the boundries of 'freedom'.

So, going back to gold is impossible and redicilous unless the whole world is destroyed and people urgently need an economic system with a medium of exchange.

[razbojnik]

...Like all religions.

I have to disagree with you on that.

I believe in religion. I believe there's a higher power in the universe that answers to people's needs and wants, something that moves karma around for example --- three kids pissed me off so much last summer. Now one of those kids didn't deserve that, the others I perfer would've gotten a worse fate...when I still had those gutsy feelings about them.

One kid fell off a motorcycle and suffered brain damage, having to had stitches to his forehead.

One kid's father got beaten and shot at, the father is the right person to attack here because he's done worse shit than the kid.

One kid's grandmother died 2 months later those incidents.

Funny how things happened to work out --- the third one was the least worse of them all, yet he suffered first and suffered the least. The second one did some fucked up shit, but I didn't concentrate as much on him, yet he suffered worse than the kid who suffered first and suffered second. The third one did the most fucked up shit, suffered the worst and suffered last.

Biblical. Epic. Breathtaking.

To say religion and God doesn't exist is just meerly an understatement and something cold hearted. Millions upon millions of miracles have happened throughout history. Tens of millions of people who have prayed to God overtime have gotten at least some of the things they want. I always prayed when my family got into domestic disputes, I prayed about a 100 times before the violance and hate would stop and peace and love would resume.

I don't visit church much, and I have never gone alone. I don't pray to God regular or thank him for all of the things I have in life that I take for granted. I always call upon him when I'm in pain and he always helps out. I've lost faith from time to time, hell I even thought about turning into an Atheist...but there have always been miracles that pulled me back into the holy game.

Heaven and Hell have not been proven to exist scientifically, that's why there's a world called paranormal, with tons of other subjects that are other worldly and scientifically unproven yet there's tons of evidence to support them. Heaven and Hell = Spiritual plane/realm. We're in the physical plane/realm. If you believe ghosts exist, and there's tons of evidence to support this too, aren't ghosts basically spirits that are sent to hell but left on Earth to wander and suffer because they have unfullfilled something???

I believe the other crap in Zeitgeist, and that religious part was friggin convincing but looking deep down in my heart, at past experiances...God has to exist otherwise I'd fear death until I give myself a heart attack, it's a hypocritcal statement but I wonder why I'm writing this right now when it makes absolutely no sense at all...

God bless you my friends.

[$outhPhillypuppet]

walking on water.
physically splitting a large body of water in 2 to cross to the other side.
waking from the dead after 3 days.
immaculate conceptions.
a boat having 2 of every known animal on earth even though some aren't native to region were the boat was built.
dinosaurs aren't real.
how living things look now are exactly how they looked a bigillion years ago.Absolutely nothing adapted to there habitats.

[MMRbkaRudog]

walking on water.
physically splitting a large body of water in 2 to cross to the other side.
waking from the dead after 3 days.
immaculate conceptions.
a boat having 2 of every known animal on earth even though some aren't native to region were the boat was built.
dinosaurs aren't real.
how living things look now are exactly how they looked a bigillion years ago.Absolutely nothing adapted to there habitats.

Dinosaurs aren't real? Things now are exactly, what?...

[$outhPhillypuppet]

walking on water.
physically splitting a large body of water in 2 to cross to the other side.
waking from the dead after 3 days.
immaculate conceptions.
a boat having 2 of every known animal on earth even though some aren't native to region were the boat was built.
dinosaurs aren't real.
how living things look now are exactly how they looked a bigillion years ago.Absolutely nothing adapted to there habitats.

Dinosaurs aren't real? Things now are exactly, what?...

some people think dinosuars never existed and were made up.
i think those same people also think man was put on this earth just as he looks now.
Evolution never happened.

those other things i listed were all facts because they have all happened before and were obviously not lies.

[Cold Bear]

Those same people that say fossils were put on earth to 'test us'

Or that 'seven days' of creation is merely metaphorical.

[MMRbkaRudog]

walking on water.
physically splitting a large body of water in 2 to cross to the other side.
waking from the dead after 3 days.
immaculate conceptions.
a boat having 2 of every known animal on earth even though some aren't native to region were the boat was built.
dinosaurs aren't real.
how living things look now are exactly how they looked a bigillion years ago.Absolutely nothing adapted to there habitats.

Dinosaurs aren't real? Things now are exactly, what?...

some people think dinosuars never existed and were made up.
i think those same people also think man was put on this earth just as he looks now.
Evolution never happened.

those other things i listed were all facts because they have all happened before and were obviously not lies.

If you're talking about we came from monkeys, then I don't believe that. If you're saying we are just evolved humans, then I do believe that.

[$outhPhillypuppet]

okay

[$outhPhillypuppet]

what about the other things i listed?

[MMRbkaRudog]

what about the other things i listed?

I believe God could have done, or helped do those things. Animals evolved too by the way, just in case you didn't know.

[$outhPhillypuppet]

I believe God could have done, or helped do those things.

oh okay,to each his own.I believe that was some stuff that 1 person made up & put out there for people to believe. Even though it wasn't even proved in the 1st place.

Animals evolved too by the way, just in case you didn't know.

oh ok thats cool. thanks for telling me.
so all living things evolved from something else at one point in time.
but humans werent right?
humans are the exception because we're special?
humans just came into existence with legs and arms from absolutely nothing?

[MMRbkaRudog]

I believe God could have done, or helped do those things.

oh okay,to each his own.I believe that was some stuff that 1 person made up & put out there for people to believe. Even though it wasn't even proved in the 1st place.

Animals evolved too by the way, just in case you didn't know.

oh ok thats cool. thanks for telling me.
so all living things evolved from something else at one point in time.
but humans werent right?
humans are the exception because we're special?
humans just came into existence with legs and arms from absolutely nothing?

I said we didn't evolve from monkeys, but that we did evolve! I believe we were created by God. Watching all those videos about Noah's ark sure reconfirmed to me it was real. Also people like scientists talked about how it was possible for water to split the way it did, so they were saying it was possible even if it wasn't done by God himself. If you're trying to say that Christians say dinosaurs didn't exist, then that's just 1's who didn't realize that the bible says they did exist.

[$outhPhillypuppet]

Also people like scientists talked about how it was possible for water to split the way it did, so they were saying it was possible even if it wasn't done by God himself.

your saying 2,000,000 Jews (young & old) in hurricane-like winds, walked 4.3 miles across a wet,muddy,rocky sea floor in minutes?
And then they got out just in time for the water to come crashing down on an egyptian army?

[MMRbkaRudog]

Also people like scientists talked about how it was possible for water to split the way it did, so they were saying it was possible even if it wasn't done by God himself.

your saying 2,000,000 Jews (young & old) in hurricane-like winds, walked 4.3 miles across a wet,muddy,rocky sea floor in minutes?
And then they got out just in time for the water to come crashing down on an egyptian army?

It probably don't matter to you any way, so I don't know why you're asking.