Gambino Leadership Charged In Biggest Mafia Roundup In 20 Years
By Jonathan Dienst, Joseph Valiquette and Alice McQuillan
UPDATED: 7:53 am EST February 7, 2008
NEW YORK -- First On WNBC.com: The entire hierarchy of the Gambino organized crime family is being rounded up Thursday morning in what law enforcement officials are calling the biggest mafia roundup in more than 20 years, WNBC.com has learned.
Investigators said powerful capos and dozens of its members and associates are being arrested Thursday morning by teams of federal, state and local investigators.
The arrests are taking place across New York City and parts of New Jersey and Long Island.
The federal charges are expected to include racketeering and extortion counts. Numerous previous unsolved homicides are also expected to be cleared in the filing of the charges Thursday.
Details of the charges contained in the federal indictments will be announced by U.S. Attorney Benton Campbell in Brooklyn later Thursday. FBI, NYPD, NY State Police as well as officials from the office of the Attorney General are also expected explain the charges.
Current and former law enforcement officials have said current reputed leaders of the Gambino family include John "Jackie the Nose" D'amico, Dominic Cefalu and Joseph "Jo Jo" Corozzo. Officials declined to comment if they are among those expected to be charged.
Inzerillo, Nicchi and the others
The big bosses jailed in New York
At least four big bosses of the american "La Cosa Nostra" has been caught in the night by New York police. Here's their who's who.
GIOVANNI INZERILLO
He is the son of the mafia boss "Totuccio" Inzerillo one of the great godfathers killed by the Corleonesi of Totò Riina. Giovanni, born in New York in 1972, is a survivor of the 'war' in Palermo in the eighties. After the Corleonesi killed his father, they also murdered his fourteen-year-old brother, Giuseppe. First they shot him, and then they hashed off his arm with an axe. When Totò Riina gave extermination instructions to his hired assassins he made it quite clear: "Not even the pips must remain from the Inzerillo family". Giovanni returned to Sicily in 2000. Officially he is a building constructor and lives in the same house his father lived in at 346 Via Castellana in the district of Palermo called Passo di Rignano.
FRANK CALI'
His full name is Francesco Paolo Augusto but everyone calls him Frank or Franky Boy. He is the American ambassador of Cosa Nostra to Sicily charged with dealing with the mafia in Palermo. He was born in New York in 1965, of Sicilian parents. His father ran a small electrical shop in Via dei Candelai in Palermo. A few FBI informants have described how back in 1999 Franky was already a 'wise guy' or 'man of honour' of the Gambino family. Officially, he administers a few import-export companies in Brooklyn the best known of which is 'Circus Fruits Wholesale'. The F. B. I believes he is an emerging figure in the Amercan Cosa Nostra organization.
FILIPPO CASAMENTO
In the seventies he was a lieutenant of the Bocadifalco 'family' of Palermo. However, during the hostilities in the eighties between the Corleonesi and the Palermitans he fled to the U. S. He is one of the most illustrious 'escapees'. This epithet refers to those 'Mafiosì who left Sicily and absconded to avoid ending up in the 'death chamber' of Totò Riina. In the U. S. A the 82-year-old Filippo Casamento, has become a star in the world of narcotics trafficking. Convicted on a number occasions, he was released from jail on 21st August 2002 and expelled from the U. S. on the 2nd September. He returned clandestinely to New York in 2004. Giovanni Inzerillo, Totuccio's son, is his godchild.
GIANNI NICCHI
He is only 25-years-old, but he is already a boss. After the arrest of Salvatore Lo Piccolo on 5 November 2007 investigators point to Gianni Nicchi as one of the future leaders of the Sicilian Cosa Nostra. His 'family' is that of the 'Pagliarellì headed by Antonino Rotolo a loyalist of Totò Riina. Despite being a member of the Corleonesi clan, Gianni Nicchi has flown to New York many times since 2003 - under authorization from his Godfathers - to meet with members of the Gambino family, and in particular with Frank Calì. According to investigators, the trips were to finalize a huge narcotics trade between Sicily and the U. S. A.
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In Big Mob Sweep, Gambino Leaders Are Indicted
In the largest sweep in recent memory, federal and New York State authorities on Thursday rounded up scores of accused organized crime figures who were indicted on charges including murder, racketeering, construction extortions and the looting of union benefit funds.
More than 80 people — among them the entire Gambino family hierarchy and reputed figures from the Genovese and Bonanno families — are named in two indictments, along with union and construction industry officials.
The charges were announced this morning at a news conference by the United States attorney for Brooklyn, Benton J. Campbell, and officials from nearly a dozen other federal, state and local law enforcement agencies.
By 2 p.m., 75 people were already in custody, including the Gambino family’s acting underboss, Domenico Cefalu, and consigliere, Joseph Corozzo, the officials said. The acting boss, who prosecutors identified as John D’Amico, known as Jackie the Nose, has not yet been picked up and several officials said he was believed to be on vacation.
“For those whose image of organized crime is that of ‘The Godfather,’ or, more recently of course, ‘The Sopranos,’ today’s indictment serves as a startling reminder that organized crime is not fiction,” said John S. Pistole, the F.B.I. deputy director. In fact, it is real, it is alive, and it is a pervasive threat to the citizens of New York City and New York State.”
The charges, which are being brought in United States District Court in Brooklyn and state Supreme Court in Queens, also include charges of seven murders — three dating back more than a quarter century — along with racketeering, extortion and state gambling charges, officials said.
“This investigation was extraordinary in that it penetrated the inner workings of the Gambino family and simultaneously reached back in time to hold several members of the Gambino family accountable for their prior crimes,” Mr. Campbell said at the news conference on Thursday.
The crimes charged in the federal indictment span three decades and include racketeering conspiracy, murder, extortion, theft of union benefits loan-sharking, securities fraud, conspiracy to distribute cocaine and marijuana, money laundering and illegal gambling.
Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo of New York, who oversees the Organized Crime Task Force, said the case was built in large part with the aid of an informer who won the confidence of Gambino crime family figures and helped record hundreds of hours of mob conversations.
“The message today is clear: organized crime still exists in the city and the state of New York,” Mr. Cuomo said. “We like to think that it’s a vestige of the past. It’s not. It is as unrelenting as weeds that continue to sprout in the cracks of society.
“The second message, which is equally clear,” he added, “is that we will not rest until organized crime is a distant memory in New York.”
The arrests by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and investigators from several other agencies were coordinated with a sweep that netted 23 accused organized crime figures in Palermo, Sicily. Those charges are not directly linked to the New York arrests, but Italian officials who were in New York at the news conference said they were part of a new American-Italian strategy aimed at severing the close cooperative relationship between the Gambino family and the Sicilian mob.
In addition to Mr. D’Amico, Mr. Cefalu and Mr. Corozzo, the 80-count federal indictment charges three Gambino captains and three acting captains, who serve among the family’s midlevel managers, along with 16 dozen soldiers, officials said. A large number of family associates are also being charged.
The construction extortion aspects of the investigation, which began more than three years ago, focused on the trucking industry, which hauls away dirt excavated from major construction projects in and around the city, said Gordon S. Heddell, inspector general of the United States Labor Department. Several union officials were also charged in a scheme to steal union benefits. Mr. Heddell, whose office investigates labor racketeering, said his agents were instrumental in starting the investigation.
“This investigation exposed the alleged grip that the Gambino organized crime family has had over one of the largest construction markets in the United States, from small private projects to large scale public works contracts,” he said. “This involved the trucks that move construction material and debris throughout the entire New York City region — the cement that is poured to build house foundations out in Staten Island, the general contractors who are responsible for building condominiums over in New Jersey and even a proposed Nascar raceway.”
Among those charged were an executive involved in the speedway project, William Kilgannon, and another man involved in the project, Todd Polakoff, who took a $9,000 payoff from a trucking executive, according to court papers.
Also charged was Anthony Delvescovo, a project manager and director of tunnel operations for the Schiavone Construction Company, a heavy construction firm that has worked on major public works projects in the New York area, according to the indictment.
Four trucking company executives, from companies including SRD Contracting, Firehawk Enterprises, Jo-Tap Industries, Andrews Trucking and Dump Masters of NY Inc., were also charged.
The trucking firms were licensed by the New York City’s Business Integrity Commission, an agency that oversees private carting companies and businesses that haul construction debris. The commission, which also had a role in the investigation, was expected to move to revoke the companies’ licenses today.
The charges against Mr. Kilgannon and Mr. Polakoff stem from an aborted plan to build a Nascar track in Staten Island, where site preparation work was done. But the project was never completed because racing officials scuttled the plan in the face of community opposition, officials said.
Also the subject of extortions was the Liberty View Harbor project in Jersey City, the officials said.
The seven murders include five that prosecutors are charging were committed by one Gambino soldier, Charles Carneglia, between 1976 and 1990, officials said. The first was the slaying of Albert Gelb, a highly decorated court officer who arrested Mr. Carneglia in a Queens diner after noticing he was carrying a pistol. Mr. Gelb was shot four days before he was to testify against Mr. Carneglia in that case.
The last was the killing of an armored car guard, Jose Delgado Rivera, who was shot in the back during a robbery, the officials said.
In addition to the F.B.I., the Labor Department and the Organized Crime Task Force, a number of other agencies were involved in the investigation, including the Waterfront Commission, the New York Police Department and the office of the Staten Island district attorney, Daniel J. Donovan. The case was based in large part on the hundreds of hours of secretly recorded conversations made by the informant, a construction executive.
In the state case, brought by the office of the Queens district attorney, Richard A. Brown, 26 people were charged with gambling, loan-sharking and promoting prostitution, officials said. Twenty of the people had been arrested by about 10 a.m., officials said.
The leadership of the family — Mr. D’Amico, Mr. Cefalu and Mr. Corozzo — were all charged in federal court with racketeering conspiracy and extortion and, if convicted, face up to 20 years in prison on multiple counts.
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In the largest sweep in recent memory, federal and New York State authorities on Thursday rounded up scores of accused organized crime figures who were indicted on charges including murder, racketeering, construction extortions and the looting of union benefit funds.
More than 80 people — among them the entire Gambino family hierarchy and reputed figures from the Genovese and Bonanno families — are named in two indictments, along with union and construction industry officials.
The charges were announced this morning at a news conference by the United States attorney for Brooklyn, Benton J. Campbell, and officials from nearly a dozen other federal, state and local law enforcement agencies.
By 2 p.m., 75 people were already in custody, including the Gambino family’s acting underboss, Domenico Cefalu, and consigliere, Joseph Corozzo, the officials said. The acting boss, who prosecutors identified as John D’Amico, known as Jackie the Nose, has not yet been picked up and several officials said he was believed to be on vacation.
“For those whose image of organized crime is that of ‘The Godfather,’ or, more recently of course, ‘The Sopranos,’ today’s indictment serves as a startling reminder that organized crime is not fiction,” said John S. Pistole, the F.B.I. deputy director. In fact, it is real, it is alive, and it is a pervasive threat to the citizens of New York City and New York State.”
The charges, which are being brought in United States District Court in Brooklyn and state Supreme Court in Queens, also include charges of seven murders — three dating back more than a quarter century — along with racketeering, extortion and state gambling charges, officials said.
“This investigation was extraordinary in that it penetrated the inner workings of the Gambino family and simultaneously reached back in time to hold several members of the Gambino family accountable for their prior crimes,” Mr. Campbell said at the news conference on Thursday.
The crimes charged in the federal indictment span three decades and include racketeering conspiracy, murder, extortion, theft of union benefits loan-sharking, securities fraud, conspiracy to distribute cocaine and marijuana, money laundering and illegal gambling.
Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo of New York, who oversees the Organized Crime Task Force, said the case was built in large part with the aid of an informer who won the confidence of Gambino crime family figures and helped record hundreds of hours of mob conversations.
“The message today is clear: organized crime still exists in the city and the state of New York,” Mr. Cuomo said. “We like to think that it’s a vestige of the past. It’s not. It is as unrelenting as weeds that continue to sprout in the cracks of society.
“The second message, which is equally clear,” he added, “is that we will not rest until organized crime is a distant memory in New York.”
The arrests by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and investigators from several other agencies were coordinated with a sweep that netted 23 accused organized crime figures in Palermo, Sicily. Those charges are not directly linked to the New York arrests, but Italian officials who were in New York at the news conference said they were part of a new American-Italian strategy aimed at severing the close cooperative relationship between the Gambino family and the Sicilian mob.
In addition to Mr. D’Amico, Mr. Cefalu and Mr. Corozzo, the 80-count federal indictment charges three Gambino captains and three acting captains, who serve among the family’s midlevel managers, along with 16 dozen soldiers, officials said. A large number of family associates are also being charged.
The construction extortion aspects of the investigation, which began more than three years ago, focused on the trucking industry, which hauls away dirt excavated from major construction projects in and around the city, said Gordon S. Heddell, inspector general of the United States Labor Department. Several union officials were also charged in a scheme to steal union benefits. Mr. Heddell, whose office investigates labor racketeering, said his agents were instrumental in starting the investigation.
“This investigation exposed the alleged grip that the Gambino organized crime family has had over one of the largest construction markets in the United States, from small private projects to large scale public works contracts,” he said. “This involved the trucks that move construction material and debris throughout the entire New York City region — the cement that is poured to build house foundations out in Staten Island, the general contractors who are responsible for building condominiums over in New Jersey and even a proposed Nascar raceway.”
Among those charged were an executive involved in the speedway project, William Kilgannon, and another man involved in the project, Todd Polakoff, who took a $9,000 payoff from a trucking executive, according to court papers.
Also charged was Anthony Delvescovo, a project manager and director of tunnel operations for the Schiavone Construction Company, a heavy construction firm that has worked on major public works projects in the New York area, according to the indictment.
Four trucking company executives, from companies including SRD Contracting, Firehawk Enterprises, Jo-Tap Industries, Andrews Trucking and Dump Masters of NY Inc., were also charged.
The trucking firms were licensed by the New York City’s Business Integrity Commission, an agency that oversees private carting companies and businesses that haul construction debris. The commission, which also had a role in the investigation, was expected to move to revoke the companies’ licenses today.
The charges against Mr. Kilgannon and Mr. Polakoff stem from an aborted plan to build a Nascar track in Staten Island, where site preparation work was done. But the project was never completed because racing officials scuttled the plan in the face of community opposition, officials said.
Also the subject of extortions was the Liberty View Harbor project in Jersey City, the officials said.
The seven murders include five that prosecutors are charging were committed by one Gambino soldier, Charles Carneglia, between 1976 and 1990, officials said. The first was the slaying of Albert Gelb, a highly decorated court officer who arrested Mr. Carneglia in a Queens diner after noticing he was carrying a pistol. Mr. Gelb was shot four days before he was to testify against Mr. Carneglia in that case.
The last was the killing of an armored car guard, Jose Delgado Rivera, who was shot in the back during a robbery, the officials said.
In addition to the F.B.I., the Labor Department and the Organized Crime Task Force, a number of other agencies were involved in the investigation, including the Waterfront Commission, the New York Police Department and the office of the Staten Island district attorney, Daniel J. Donovan. The case was based in large part on the hundreds of hours of secretly recorded conversations made by the informant, a construction executive.
In the state case, brought by the office of the Queens district attorney, Richard A. Brown, 26 people were charged with gambling, loan-sharking and promoting prostitution, officials said. Twenty of the people had been arrested by about 10 a.m., officials said.
The leadership of the family — Mr. D’Amico, Mr. Cefalu and Mr. Corozzo — were all charged in federal court with racketeering conspiracy and extortion and, if convicted, face up to 20 years in prison on multiple counts.
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by thewestside » February 10th, 2008, 11:48 pm
This is a list of the of those who were arrested in the recent bust. It includes the 3 members of the Gambino hierarchy, 3 Gambino captains, 3 Gambino acting captains, 18 Gambino soldiers, 29 Gambino associates, 1 Bonanno soldier, 2 Bonanno associates, 1 Genovese associate, and 26 other defendants.
1. John "Jackie Nose" D'Amico - Acting Boss
2. Domenico "Italian Dom" Cefalu - Acting Underboss
3. Joseph "Jo Jo" Corozzo - Consigliere
4. Nicholas "Little Nick" Corozzo - Captain
5. Thomas "Tommy Sneakers" Cacciopoli - Captain
6. Leonard "Lenny" DiMaria - Captain
7. Frank Cali - Acting Captain
8. Louis Filipelli - Acting Captain
9. Augustus "Gus" Sclafani - Acting Captain
10. Jerome "Jerry" Brancato - Soldier
11. Charles "Charlie Carnig" Carneglia - Soldier
12. Mario "Lanza" Cassarino - Soldier
13. Joseph "Joe Marco Polo" Chirico - Soldier
14. Vincent "Vinny" Dragonetti - Soldier
15. Robert "Bobby the Jew" Epifania - Soldier
16. Richard Gotti - Soldier
17. Vincent Gotti - Soldier
18. Ernest "Ernie" Grillo - Soldier
19. Anthony "Cheeks" Licata - Soldier
20. James "Big Guy" Outerie - Soldier
21. Vincent "Vinny Basile" Pacelli - Soldier
22. Angelo "Little Ange" Ruggiero Jr. - Soldier
23. Joseph Scopo - Soldier
24. William "Billy" Scotto - Soldier
25. Michael Scarola - Soldier
26. Blaise Corozzo - Soldier
27. Louis Scida - Soldier
28. Gino Cracolici - Associate
29. Vincent "Vinny Hot" Decongilio - Associate
30. Steven "Stevie I" Iaria - Associate
31. Anthony "Tono O" O'Donnell - Associate
32. Richard "Fat Richie" Ranieri - Associate
33. Anthony Scibelli - Associate
34. Joseph Spinnato - Associate
35. Neil Altstat - Associate
36. Todd Segarra - Associate
37. Robert Merietta - Associate
38. Michael Grillo - Associate
39. William Peel - Associate
40. Pasquale Guarino - Associate
41. James Rossetti - Associate
42. Raffaele Rosella - Associate
43. Charles Hacker - Associate
44. Rocco Calderola - Associate
45. Vincent Giusto - Associate
46. Paul Torres - Associate
47. Ricardo Baird - Associate
48. Antonio Gonzalez - Associate
49. Robert Vita - Associate
50. Vincent Caravello - Associate
51. Frank Mancini - Associate
52. Benedict Delleani - Associate
53. Joseph Mantone - Associate
54. Timothy Gleason - Associate
55. John Backer - Associate
56. Chris Lanser - Associate
57. Paul Torres - Associate
58. Vincent "Elmo" Amarante - Soldier (Bonanno family)
59. Steven Sabella - Associate (Bonanno family)
60. Michael "Mike the Electrician" Urciuoli - Associate (Bonanno family)
61. Nicholas Calvo - Associate (Genovese family)
62. Anthony "Anthony Delvecchio" Delvescovo - Defendant
63. Sarah Dauria - Defendant
64. Louis Mosca - Defendant
65. Michael King - Defendant
66. Joseph Agate - Defendant
67. Joseph "Joe Rackets" Casiere - Defendant
68. Vincent Donnis - Defendant
69. Cody Ferrell - Defendant
70. Russel "One Eye" Ferrisi - Defendant
71. Ronald Flam - Defendant
72. Joseph "Joe Gag" Gaggi - Defendant
73. Abid "Han" Ghani - Defendant
74. Anthony "Buckwheat" Giammarino - Defendant
75. Christopher Howard - Defendant
76. Eddie James - Defendant
77. John Kasgorgis - Defendant
78. William Kilgannon - Defendant
79. Lance Moskowitz - Defendant
80. John Pisano - Defendant
81. Todd Polakoff - Defendant
82. Giulio Pomponio - Defendant
83. John Regis - Defendant
84. Edward Sobol - Defendant
85. Frank Vassallo - Defendant
86. Tara Vega - Defendant
87. Arthur Zagari - Defendant
1. John "Jackie Nose" D'Amico - Acting Boss
2. Domenico "Italian Dom" Cefalu - Acting Underboss
3. Joseph "Jo Jo" Corozzo - Consigliere
4. Nicholas "Little Nick" Corozzo - Captain
5. Thomas "Tommy Sneakers" Cacciopoli - Captain
6. Leonard "Lenny" DiMaria - Captain
7. Frank Cali - Acting Captain
8. Louis Filipelli - Acting Captain
9. Augustus "Gus" Sclafani - Acting Captain
10. Jerome "Jerry" Brancato - Soldier
11. Charles "Charlie Carnig" Carneglia - Soldier
12. Mario "Lanza" Cassarino - Soldier
13. Joseph "Joe Marco Polo" Chirico - Soldier
14. Vincent "Vinny" Dragonetti - Soldier
15. Robert "Bobby the Jew" Epifania - Soldier
16. Richard Gotti - Soldier
17. Vincent Gotti - Soldier
18. Ernest "Ernie" Grillo - Soldier
19. Anthony "Cheeks" Licata - Soldier
20. James "Big Guy" Outerie - Soldier
21. Vincent "Vinny Basile" Pacelli - Soldier
22. Angelo "Little Ange" Ruggiero Jr. - Soldier
23. Joseph Scopo - Soldier
24. William "Billy" Scotto - Soldier
25. Michael Scarola - Soldier
26. Blaise Corozzo - Soldier
27. Louis Scida - Soldier
28. Gino Cracolici - Associate
29. Vincent "Vinny Hot" Decongilio - Associate
30. Steven "Stevie I" Iaria - Associate
31. Anthony "Tono O" O'Donnell - Associate
32. Richard "Fat Richie" Ranieri - Associate
33. Anthony Scibelli - Associate
34. Joseph Spinnato - Associate
35. Neil Altstat - Associate
36. Todd Segarra - Associate
37. Robert Merietta - Associate
38. Michael Grillo - Associate
39. William Peel - Associate
40. Pasquale Guarino - Associate
41. James Rossetti - Associate
42. Raffaele Rosella - Associate
43. Charles Hacker - Associate
44. Rocco Calderola - Associate
45. Vincent Giusto - Associate
46. Paul Torres - Associate
47. Ricardo Baird - Associate
48. Antonio Gonzalez - Associate
49. Robert Vita - Associate
50. Vincent Caravello - Associate
51. Frank Mancini - Associate
52. Benedict Delleani - Associate
53. Joseph Mantone - Associate
54. Timothy Gleason - Associate
55. John Backer - Associate
56. Chris Lanser - Associate
57. Paul Torres - Associate
58. Vincent "Elmo" Amarante - Soldier (Bonanno family)
59. Steven Sabella - Associate (Bonanno family)
60. Michael "Mike the Electrician" Urciuoli - Associate (Bonanno family)
61. Nicholas Calvo - Associate (Genovese family)
62. Anthony "Anthony Delvecchio" Delvescovo - Defendant
63. Sarah Dauria - Defendant
64. Louis Mosca - Defendant
65. Michael King - Defendant
66. Joseph Agate - Defendant
67. Joseph "Joe Rackets" Casiere - Defendant
68. Vincent Donnis - Defendant
69. Cody Ferrell - Defendant
70. Russel "One Eye" Ferrisi - Defendant
71. Ronald Flam - Defendant
72. Joseph "Joe Gag" Gaggi - Defendant
73. Abid "Han" Ghani - Defendant
74. Anthony "Buckwheat" Giammarino - Defendant
75. Christopher Howard - Defendant
76. Eddie James - Defendant
77. John Kasgorgis - Defendant
78. William Kilgannon - Defendant
79. Lance Moskowitz - Defendant
80. John Pisano - Defendant
81. Todd Polakoff - Defendant
82. Giulio Pomponio - Defendant
83. John Regis - Defendant
84. Edward Sobol - Defendant
85. Frank Vassallo - Defendant
86. Tara Vega - Defendant
87. Arthur Zagari - Defendant
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by thewestside » February 19th, 2008, 6:12 pm
JohnnyRed wrote:damn thats alot of fuckin people. i wonder how many are gonna be convicted. i give it 13 at the most.
As is the usual case nowadays in the mob, you will see a lot of plea deals. Probably very few will actually go to trial. Many of the defendants are facing relatively light charges for illegal gambling and loansharking. The ones that are facing heavier penalties are the hierarchy and captains in the family. They are looking at charges involving labor racketeering, extortion, murder, and racketeering conspiracy.
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by JohnnyRed » February 20th, 2008, 1:13 am
thewestside wrote:JohnnyRed wrote:damn thats alot of fuckin people. i wonder how many are gonna be convicted. i give it 13 at the most.
As is the usual case nowadays in the mob, you will see a lot of plea deals. Probably very few will actually go to trial. Many of the defendants are facing relatively light charges for illegal gambling and loansharking. The ones that are facing heavier penalties are the hierarchy and captains in the family. They are looking at charges involving labor racketeering, extortion, murder, and racketeering conspiracy.
what gets me is that these cops always convict these italians on homicides past 10 years ago, and sometimes as old as 30 years ago. how the fuck do they find out now? i think the government made some new technology normal people dont know about yet.
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by JohnnyRed » February 20th, 2008, 1:13 am
thewestside wrote:JohnnyRed wrote:damn thats alot of fuckin people. i wonder how many are gonna be convicted. i give it 13 at the most.
As is the usual case nowadays in the mob, you will see a lot of plea deals. Probably very few will actually go to trial. Many of the defendants are facing relatively light charges for illegal gambling and loansharking. The ones that are facing heavier penalties are the hierarchy and captains in the family. They are looking at charges involving labor racketeering, extortion, murder, and racketeering conspiracy.
what gets me is that these cops always convict these italians on homicides past 10 years ago, and sometimes as old as 30 years ago. how the fuck do they find out now? i think the government made some new technology normal people dont know about yet.
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by JohnnyRed » February 20th, 2008, 1:13 am
thewestside wrote:JohnnyRed wrote:damn thats alot of fuckin people. i wonder how many are gonna be convicted. i give it 13 at the most.
As is the usual case nowadays in the mob, you will see a lot of plea deals. Probably very few will actually go to trial. Many of the defendants are facing relatively light charges for illegal gambling and loansharking. The ones that are facing heavier penalties are the hierarchy and captains in the family. They are looking at charges involving labor racketeering, extortion, murder, and racketeering conspiracy.
what gets me is that these cops always convict these italians on homicides past 10 years ago, and sometimes as old as 30 years ago. how the fuck do they find out now? i think the government made some new technology normal people dont know about yet.
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by thewestside » February 20th, 2008, 11:19 pm
JohnnyRed wrote:
what gets me is that these cops always convict these italians on homicides past 10 years ago, and sometimes as old as 30 years ago. how the fu-- do they find out now? i think the government made some new technology normal people dont know about yet.
They usually find out about murders decades old through either bugs/wiretaps or informants. Usually the latter. A mob guy will get jammed up on charges and be facing a lot of prison time. Often times they are willing to talk about old murders they know about in exchange for leniency in sentencing.
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by thewestside » February 28th, 2008, 7:47 am
Here come the plea deals.....
GAMBINO DEAL-ATHON IN B'KLYN
By STEFANIE COHEN
February 28, 2008 -- Federal prosecutors passed out plea offers like candy yesterday at the first court hearing for alleged Gambino crime-family members charged in a historic, 62-person indictment earlier this month.
"It's the government's way of paring it down because it's so unwieldy," grumbled one defense lawyer. The feds admitted as much.
"As a practical mater, it is highly unlikely that all 62 defendants will proceed to trial. Plea agreements will likely reduce the number," prosecutor Joey Lipton wrote in court papers.
Yesterday's conference before Judge Nicholas Garaufis in Brooklyn federal court was nothing if not a mob scene. The gangsters awaiting trial from jail sat in the jury box, their hands shackled. Those out on bail filled the gallery seats. And that was only half of them. A second crew will appear today.
On Feb. 7, feds indicted 62 Gambinos on charges ranging from extortion to murder, including everything in between.
All but one defendant present at yesterday's hearing was given a plea offer: Charles Carneglia, who is accused of five murders dating back three decades, was not.
GAMBINO DEAL-ATHON IN B'KLYN
By STEFANIE COHEN
February 28, 2008 -- Federal prosecutors passed out plea offers like candy yesterday at the first court hearing for alleged Gambino crime-family members charged in a historic, 62-person indictment earlier this month.
"It's the government's way of paring it down because it's so unwieldy," grumbled one defense lawyer. The feds admitted as much.
"As a practical mater, it is highly unlikely that all 62 defendants will proceed to trial. Plea agreements will likely reduce the number," prosecutor Joey Lipton wrote in court papers.
Yesterday's conference before Judge Nicholas Garaufis in Brooklyn federal court was nothing if not a mob scene. The gangsters awaiting trial from jail sat in the jury box, their hands shackled. Those out on bail filled the gallery seats. And that was only half of them. A second crew will appear today.
On Feb. 7, feds indicted 62 Gambinos on charges ranging from extortion to murder, including everything in between.
All but one defendant present at yesterday's hearing was given a plea offer: Charles Carneglia, who is accused of five murders dating back three decades, was not.
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by JohnnyRed » April 4th, 2008, 4:15 pm
truestar wrote:there washed up and donee.. this indictment was really bad for the family
It was but the family is not done, just severely weakened, god fucking damn, 82 people... thats alsmot half the family...
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by JohnnyRed » April 4th, 2008, 4:15 pm
JohnnyRed wrote:truestar wrote:there washed up and donee.. this indictment was really bad for the family
It was but the family is not done, just severely weakened, god #%@&#%@ damn, 82 people... thats alsmot half the family...
sorry 62 people***
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by thewestside » April 4th, 2008, 7:12 pm
TeeKay wrote:remember 62 people were not all Gambino,many were associates of other families,1 was a Genovese if im not mistaken.
It's in an above post. The indictment included the 3 members of the Gambino hierarchy, 3 Gambino captains, 3 Gambino acting captains, 18 Gambino soldiers, 29 Gambino associates, 1 Bonanno soldier, 2 Bonanno associates, 1 Genovese associate, and 26 other defendants.
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by thewestside » April 5th, 2008, 9:32 pm
JohnnyRed wrote:Gambinos, thats the end of they're chapter.
If you really believe that you're even more ignorant than I thought.
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by JohnnyRed » April 5th, 2008, 9:34 pm
thewestside wrote:JohnnyRed wrote:Gambinos, thats the end of they're chapter.
If you really believe that you're even more ignorant than I thought.
They're not done and over with but they just got there asses handed to them by the feds, I dont htink the Gambinos will recover from this one. The future of the Gambinos is probably breaking up like they were on the verge of doing in the early 2000s.
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by thewestside » April 5th, 2008, 9:46 pm
JohnnyRed wrote:
They're not done and over with but they just got there asses handed to them by the feds, I dont htink the Gambinos will recover from this one. The future of the Gambinos is probably breaking up like they were on the verge of doing in the early 2000s.
This latest bust will turn into plea bargains for most of the defendants except for a few that are high-ranking or charged with serious crime like narcotics, extortion, or murder. But there are more indictments coming down the pike now that it has been revealed that longtime associate of John Gotti Lewis Kasman has been working for the government for 10 years. He has information on both the Gambinos and the Luccheses.
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by JohnnyRed » April 5th, 2008, 9:50 pm
thewestside wrote:JohnnyRed wrote:
They're not done and over with but they just got there asses handed to them by the feds, I dont htink the Gambinos will recover from this one. The future of the Gambinos is probably breaking up like they were on the verge of doing in the early 2000s.
This latest bust will turn into plea bargains for most of the defendants except for a few that are high-ranking or charged with serious crime like narcotics, extortion, or murder. But there are more indictments coming down the pike now that it has been revealed that longtime associate of John Gotti Lewis Kasman has been working for the government for 10 years. He has information on both the Gambinos and the Luccheses.
This could only happen in an Italian-American crime group. To have indictments come down like this by rats. People who are facing long sentences are gonna rat too.
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by thewestside » April 5th, 2008, 10:23 pm
JohnnyRed wrote:This could only happen in an Italian-American crime group. To have indictments come down like this by rats.
And yet again JohnnyRed offers another one of his opinions without having any idea what he's talking about.
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by flame_guards_member1 » April 6th, 2008, 1:19 pm
Why are they going after the Gambinos more than the more powerful Genovese family?
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by JohnnyRed » April 6th, 2008, 4:09 pm
flame_guards_member1 wrote:Why are they going after the Gambinos more than the more powerful Genovese family?
looool your so fucking stupid.... you think the FBI just wakes up one day and says hey lets arrest the Gambinos today.... idiot, the Gambinos had a rat or rats in the operation they were trying to do and were caught.... how does that have anything to do with the genoveses? my god macedonians are fucking idiots... your whole countries politics just went down did you hear about it? I guess they were asking stupid question in the same way you are....
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by thewestside » April 6th, 2008, 10:55 pm
flame_guards_member1 wrote:Why are they going after the Gambinos more than the more powerful Genovese family?
The FBI has active squads assigned to investigate all five of the New York families. In the early 1990's, the government was hitting the Gambinos, Luccheses, and Colombos pretty hard. John Gotti, of course, brought down a lot of heat on the Gambinos and the defection of his underboss Sammy Gravano led to a number of indictments over the next several years. Vic Amuso and Anthony Casso also brought down a lot of heat on the Luccheses, which led to a number of captains and soldiers flipping. And the Colombos had a lot of heat brought down on them because of their internal war from 1991 to 1993. By the mid-1990's they started really going after the Genovese family and it's boss Vincent Gigante was convicted in 1997. The feds have continued to hit the Genovese family hard over the last decade, although it still remains the most powerful. Because they considered the Bonannos to be so weak, the FBI actually removed a full time squad from investigating the family in the early 1990's. This enabled the family to regroup and regain a lot of power over the next decade, including replacing the Gambinos as the second strongest family in New York by the early 2000's. But the FBI soon saw it's mistake and began investigating the family, and in only a few years a number of captains, it's underboss, and finally it's boss had flipped and a number of members had been convicted. As a result, the Bonannos are now the weakest family in New York again. Indictments of New York families basically go in revolutions. Over the past few years, things had been relatively quiet with the Gambinos, Luccheses, and Colombos while the government was pounding away at the Genovese and Bonanno families. But last year, the Luccheses had a huge bust in the New Jersey faction of the family. And then of course there was the recent huge bust of the Gambinos. The Colombos probably have another one coming their way here soon.
JohnnyRed wrote:looool your so #%@&#%@ stupid.... you think the FBI just wakes up one day and says hey lets arrest the Gambinos today.... idiot, the Gambinos had a rat or rats in the operation they were trying to do and were caught.... how does that have anything to do with the genoveses? my god macedonians are #%@&#%@ idiots... your whole countries politics just went down did you hear about it? I guess they were asking stupid question in the same way you are....
Hey JohnnyRed, can you go one post without insulting someone? Seriously, if you have something relative to add then fine. Otherwise, SHUT THE HELL UP!
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by thewestside » April 7th, 2008, 8:17 pm
JohnnyRed wrote:suck a dannish dick you bitch.
Sadly, this is about as intelligent as your posts get.
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by TeeKay » April 8th, 2008, 12:41 am
JohnnyRed wrote:Hey JohnnyRed, can you go one post without insulting someone? Seriously, if you have something relative to add then fine. Otherwise, SHUT THE HELL UP!
suck a dannish dick you bitch.
How old is this dude seriously?
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by flame_guards_member1 » April 8th, 2008, 1:44 am
TeeKay wrote:JohnnyRed wrote:Hey JohnnyRed, can you go one post without insulting someone? Seriously, if you have something relative to add then fine. Otherwise, SHUT THE HELL UP!
suck a dannish dick you bitch.
How old is this dude seriously?
I'm 15, I'm guessing he's in his early 20s. I'm more mature than him if you've noticed. Both of us are still in puberty, except I got hair on my balls and he doesn't.
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by flame_guards_member1 » April 8th, 2008, 1:47 am
JohnnyRed wrote:flame_guards_member1 wrote:Why are they going after the Gambinos more than the more powerful Genovese family?
looool your so #%@�%@ stupid.... you think the FBI just wakes up one day and says hey lets arrest the Gambinos today.... idiot, the Gambinos had a rat or rats in the operation they were trying to do and were caught.... how does that have anything to do with the genoveses? my god macedonians are #%@�%@ idiots... your whole countries politics just went down did you hear about it? I guess they were asking stupid question in the same way you are....
I thought albanian women weren't allowed to speak.
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by RONNIE » April 8th, 2008, 2:10 am
flame_guards_member1 wrote:I'm 15, I'm guessing he's in his early 20s. I'm more mature than him if you've noticed. Both of us are still in puberty, except I got hair on my balls and he doesn't.
To be honest I think you are even younger than 15, and I dont really think you possess hair on your balls, much more likely is hair on your pussy, lol.
But it is understandable why the conversation has reached such a low level.Insults follow insults.
But it would be more interesting for all of us if you guys tried to be more original and funny, instead of making ridiculous, dry insults to each others ethnicity, that is pathetic.
Sure, Johnny has started insulting and still keeps them going, but since there are only less than a handful of people making any interesting posts on this forum, the rest is all fights, insults are inevitable, and Johnny has at least shown some very funny and entertaining ones.
"suck a dannish dick" for example was excellent, lol.
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by flame_guards_member1 » April 8th, 2008, 2:23 am
RONNIE wrote:flame_guards_member1 wrote:I'm 15, I'm guessing he's in his early 20s. I'm more mature than him if you've noticed. Both of us are still in puberty, except I got hair on my balls and he doesn't.
To be honest I think you are even younger than 15, and I dont really think you possess hair on your balls, much more likely is hair on your pussy, lol.
But it is understandable why the conversation has reached such a low level.Insults follow insults.
But it would be more interesting for all of us if you guys tried to be more original and funny, instead of making ridiculous, dry insults to each others ethnicity, that is pathetic.
Sure, Johnny has started insulting and still keeps them going, but since there are only less than a handful of people making any interesting posts on this forum, the rest is all fights, insults are inevitable, and Johnny has at least shown some very funny and entertaining ones.
"suck a dannish dick" for example was excellent, lol.
I am 15, turning 16 in November, and in real life people honestly think I'm in my 20s because of my size. I do possess hair on my balls, and around my genetelia for that matter. Hair on my pussy? Proposterous. I don't have a pussy, I have a dick.
I agree about everything else.
I mean usually when people insult me, it hurts me. Reading Johnny's insults, however, is very entertaining. People can remember my beefs I had with Dr. Gonzo, for example, which I am a little suspicious about since Nov of 2006 was the same year and month I started to play an online shooter regularly with a vato named Paul S De Reon or Leon or whatever the fuck he calls himself, from Los Angeles, also bearing the name Gonzo in-game. Well anyways it was in 2005, It was probably the most crazy year and interesting in my life, 2004 was the most depressing, but since I hanged around friends who had some of the funniest insults on the planet, and I used the same style of insults to insult him and others on the board. I had numerous accounts, got banned, came back, I was away for awhile. I cleared my head now and I'm trying to do my best. Usually even the pettyest of insults would get me into a flame fest. People called my encounter with Dr. Gonzo some of the funniest beefs they have ever heard, and who can forget the ooga-booga caveman classic in accordance with his name.
As far as insults goes, let him insult all he wants, I urge all everyone that Johnny's insults are directed to to stay cool and not insult back in the same manner he did, such as name calling. He'll soon be isolated and lose his self esteem and might switch sides and contradict himself again. Who knows. I know I was...
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by RONNIE » April 8th, 2008, 3:01 am
flame_guards_member1 wrote:I am 15, turning 16 in November, and in real life people honestly think I'm in my 20s because of my size. I do possess hair on my balls, and around my genetelia for that matter. Hair on my pussy? Proposterous. I don't have a pussy, I have a dick.
lol, good one flame, and interesting post.
Out of fairness I should add that I really liked westsides comeback too, brilliant.
It would be even better though, if we all got back to the topics again.
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