peckhem boys run peckhem, end of, everyone runs tingz in der own ends, theres NO! gang that runs london. anyway PDC is the biggest gang in london but even they dont run the hole of south london, they just run there parts, but theres loads of gangs that would be happy to fight them if they came down to there estate, SUK= stick up kidz, project mayhem,Y2K=year to kill, ect, even man in west london would put up a good fight if PDC came down to there own area, cos the hole of PDC would NEVER beable to all come down at the same time.. anyway its all a hype ting, most of dz crews are just youts init.. the only gangs i fear are the ones that know where i live,lolCrymz wrote:Peckham Boys and several Yardie gangs have been running London for the last few years and probably still are makin some noise to this day...
As far as more business structured, underworld organised crime groups are concerned - I wouldnt have a clue, they are too shrouded in secrecy....
GANG LIKE SUBCULTURE EVOLUTION IN WEST LONDON FROM http://gangsinlondon.piczo.com/westlond ... var=000044
In the mid 50s as youth culture defined. The local teenage rampage was commonplace in the old Prince of Wales Cinema on Harrow Road. In the wake of the rock and roll era Elvis become the role model of the Teds. As the Teds progressed from slashing cinema seats to harassing Cypriot and West Indian immigrants the look (which originated from Elephant and Castle) caught on in Notting Hill, particularly on Southern Street in Kensal.
“If you were a Teddy Boy what you aspired to was a 40 guinea suit”. Musically up until the late 50’s skiffle and jazz still held sway, people who used pubs were of an older generation, rock n roll hadnt kicked in the pubs and the younger Teddy Boys were still going to coffee bars or to the West End. Meanwhile, Notting Dale was rocking anyway. Regardless of music trends, the old slum area to the west of Ladbroke Grove was in a permanent riot waiting to happen state.
Notting Dale came into existence in the early 19th century as a shanty town inhabited by brickmakers and pigkeepers, officially known as the Kensington Potteries. A hundred years earlier Charles Dickens had referred to it as a plague spot and the not so far away northern slum of Kensal Town slum had been the venue of an anti Irish race riot in the 1860s. Notting dale in particular was known as a police no-mans land where anything can happen and usually does, “it seemed on every street corner brawls and quarrels were taking place”. Here groups of white youngsters would lounge against walls gibing West Indians and Cypriots.
At the time of the Mau Mau uprising in Kenya, a local boxing instructor teamed up with Jamaican boxer Lloyd Barnett to prevent a race riot developing from a dispute at a dance in the Kensington Public baths’ Argyll Hall on Lancaster Road. As a Teddy Boy white faction and a group of hot headed West Indians argued over who collected their coats first
The advent of the teenager coincided not very happily with the arrival of the first major wave of West Indian immigrants in Britain, to ease post war labour shortage. For many West Indians was disenchantment with ‘the mother country’ as they encountered racial discrimination in housing, employment and social life.
By 1958 its estimated that 7,000 West Indian immigrants settled in Notting Hill and the Colville areas was nicknamed “Brown Town” – as opposed to White City, the other side of the racial frontline was Notting Dale. There was an atmosphere of sexual jealousy and general ill-feeling towards West Indians, caused by a disproportionate number of black pimps with white prostitutes. For some “the Grove" was a testing ground in which people lived wild and free, uninhibited by laws and respectability. This was how it was at the end of the 50s. It was only Notting Hill/Grove that there was public life. Clubs, restaurants, cafes, music, street corner talk. This was the work of the immigrants.
With most local pubs unwelcoming, the hustlers/rude boys had their own scene, consisting of various types of clubs. There were after hours drinking clubs, basement/cellar clubs for daytime gambling, and blues clubs. Blues dance music went from jazz, calypso and Jamaican RnB through ska and rocksteady to 70s dub reggae.
West Indians would eventually establish a presence in Notting Hill pubs, most notably the Colville Hotel affectionately known as the pisshouse, and the Apollo on All Saints Road, followed by the Warwick Castle and Golden Cross on Portobello Road and the Kensington Park Hotel on Ladbroke Grove. Like the Irish shebeens and the most violent mushroom clubs of the indigenous English villains, blues clubs could crop up anywhere but tended to be in the areas around Powis Sq and St Stephens Gardens – this defines the original West Indian Grove areas as more Westbourne than Ladbroke.
Back in 1953, the Notting Hill crime of the century was solved when West Indian tenants of 10 Rillington Place encouraged John Christie to move out, and discovered the bodies of 3 prostitutes in a cupboard. In July, as the temperature rose, reports of isolated racial attacks around the area increased in seriousness, from general harassment to serious assault. In August, a local petition was organised and there were calls in the press for something to be done about the increasing violence.
Just before the riot in Notting Hill there was race rioting occurring in Nottingham. The night of the first Nottingham incident a gang of teenagers were driving around Shepherds Bush and Notting Hill attacking any black people they came across. After that racial tension increased.
The incident that started the Notting Hill riots was an innocent domestic dispute between a Jamaican man and his Swedish wife outside Latimer Road station. The argument attracted a crowd and the Jamaican was heckled by a group of white males who then attracted a group of West Indian men, there was a scuffle and that was the end of the beginning. The following night a local mob attacked a house on Bard Road and a blues party on Blechynden Street, setting off the late August riot weekend.
A SIMILAR EXTRACT ON ASIAN GANGS IN TOWER HAMLETS EAST LONDON http://gangsinlondon.piczo.com/towerham ... var=000044
There were only 10,000 National Front votes in London in 1973. By 1977 this had soared to 117,000 most prominently in Hackney, Waltham Forest, Redbridge, Newham & Enfield. In Tower Hamlets much of the borough was affected by NF voters and most notably in Stepney, Poplar and Bethnal Green.
In 1976 the Union of Pakistan Organisation was set up in response to facist and racialist attacks. It was a collection of groups willing to defend immigrant communities in Britain. It also called for the banning of racialist organisation National Front. Meanwhile in Southall the gang Holy Smokes formed to protect local Indians from racist atttacks in West London. In 1976 Tower Hamlets Bengali population was still only 6,000 far short of todays 40,000. The first and second generation Bengali population of Tower Hamlets were subject to much racial abuse and unlike the youths of today were not ones to fight back.
The Spitalfields area become recognised as a new Bengali community in the 1970s. The immigrants lived in the huddle of streets branching off Brick Lane. Fifty years previously it had been Londons East End Jewish ghetto. Like the racial abuse suffered previously by the Jewish population Bengalis were no exception.
In 1978 nearly 200 white youths stormed through this Bengali district where racial violence had been ever increasing. Shops and cars were damaged and the GLC proposed to establish racially segregated housing areas as oppose to more police protection.
Attacks on Bengalis in the Brick Lane area of Spitalfields had usually been the work of relatively small groups. This however was carried out by the largest gang to assemble to threaten Asians in the area. It was common for groups to insult the growing Bengali community in Tower Hamlts. But this incident was different, a turning point perhps, as bottles stones and masonry were thrown as youths rushed the street.
Bengali youths like other south Asian groups such as Indians and Pakistanis in London would eventually form gangs. In 1979 a group of NF supporters chased a young Bengali along Brick Lane before kicking him to death. Following this incident Bengali youths began to form vigilante groups, however, the racial torment by white National Front would continue into the 1980s.
In 1984, there were 319 racial attacks recorded against Bengalis in Tower Hamlets. In 1985 there were 485 racial attacks against Bengalis. The picture becomes clear? In the late 80s it was feared racial tensions would be heightened following the stabbing of a white boy by a gang of Bengali youths.
The attack was a new take on the racial confrontations whereby most attacks had been whites on Asians. Asian community leaders became fearful that their young people may have learned to retaliate with violence or even attack rather than just acting to protect themselves.
Another develop of the time is the growth of a Somali community in Tower Hamlets in the late 80s and early 90s. The New Somali Restaurant was the first of its kind in East London. "Gang warfare" between Bengali and Somali youths in one school saw Asian youths attending classes with meat clevers hidden under clothes. (War torn Somali meant a large increase in Somalians to Britain from 1988 onwards, Tower Hamlets has the largest Somali community in London with over 15,000)
Feuding between the groups began quickly. Like the way in which whites had targetted Bengalis (as new arrivals), the Bengalis returned the hostility to the new forming Somali community. Somalis were the most recent arrivals to Tower Hamlets, historically Londons most deprived borough, where tensions have always been sharp. Somalians become the easiest scapegoat for young bored and frustrated Bengalis.
In the way black-white conflict turned to black-black conflict, the traditional emnities of Tower Hamlets began to change. White against black/asian conflicts are giving way to new rivalries; Asian against Asian & Asian against Somali. From a Somali point of view it felt as though "we (Somalians) had invaded their (Bengali) area".
In 1991, Tower Hamlets, like previous decades was still a product of poverty. Commerce (for locals anyway, not the yuppies invading Canary Wharf) was in terminal decline, the average resident lives in a council flat whilst unemployed. Ethnic minorities, including whites, have turned in on themselves and become segregated and embroiled in territorial rivalries. Racial violence continued to increase and Asian gangs were becoming a new phenomena, the increasing frequency of their confrontations a sign of things to come?
Gangs began to rule estates. Every estate had its gang. The ethnic minorities did not exactly mix and the young Bengalis are alienated. They dont feel totally Bengali, they're not accepted by western culture and reject their own sticking them right in the middle of it all. The estates and areas where the gangs began to rule were Brick Lane, the Ocean Estate, Cannon Street Road, Bethnal Green Road, Vallance Road and Shadwell. The gangs predominantly were from the E1 and E2 areas.
The gangs to first form in the 1980s were Bengal Tigers, Osmani and the Brick Lane Massive, in response to racial violence. It was in the 90s that their territorial disputes erupted into pitched inter-Bengali battles that alarmed community elders. Bengali gang fighting become of particular concern in 1993 when a mini-riot of some 60 youths began on Brick Lane.
Windows were smashed and restaurants trashed in a fight sparked by a trivial dispute. Rival gang leaders got together and agreed a truce at a mass meeting on the Ed festival marking the end of Ramadan. However, it was not sustained for a significant period and violence between bengalis and racial attacks were still prevalent in the borough.
In the mid 1990s another "truce" was attempted when leaders of the Brick Lane Massive, Stepney Posse and Cannon Street Posse pledged to work together to keep the peace. The Committee of Youth Against Violence was renamed "Aasha" (hope) by its members and founders.
MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT A GANG IS JUST
- COMPOSED OF A MINORITY GROUP (MOSTLY BLACK YOUTH - PROBLEM BEING POLICE SEE TWO GROUPS THAT ARE THE SAME ONE WHITE, ONE BLACK - THE WHITE GROUP IS OVERLOOKED WHILST THE BLACK ONE IS LABELLED A GANG AND THEN HASSLED)
- HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN SHOTTIN DRUGS AND KILLING PEOPLE
Isn't Glasgow the gang capital of the UK? Aren't the gangs there mostly white?
TRUTH BE TOLD SCOTLAND AND GLASGOW IN PARTICULAR HAS A FAR HIGHER MURDER / SERIOUS VIOLENT CRIME RATE THAN ENGLAND AND GLASGOWS MURDER RATE IS OR WAS THE HIGHEST IN WESTERN EUROPE (SOMETHING LIKE 14 PER 100,000 SO TWICE THAT OF NYC AND AS A RATE IT MAY EVEN BE HIGHER THAN LOS ANGELES - BUT!!! THATS IN RATE TERMS ONLY, IN NUMBERS LA HAS 4X AS MANY MURDERS)
OG Cabrini wrote:When Glasgow hit its 10 year high in terms of murder, the rate was only 5.87/100,000 people not 14/100,000. That means its murder rate was a little lower than NYC's and im thinking alot lower than Chicago's n L.A's.
That year(2002) glasgow had 40 murders n LA had over 650. That means LA had 16 times more murders in total, not 4 lol.
9Caliber wrote:London has a lot or murder, but because its such a big place the murder rate is very small.
Does anyone know how many murder are commited in London each year?
I was watching International Football factories on Bravo the other week and Danny Dyer was in Brazil. I can't remeber whether it was Sao Paulo or Rio de Janerio but he stated that London had less than 150 murders last year compared to over 6000 to either Sao Paulo or Rio. That brings things into perspective.SoulJah wrote:9Caliber wrote:London has a lot or murder, but because its such a big place the murder rate is very small.
Does anyone know how many murder are commited in London each year?
WAS 222 IN 2003 BUT DOWN TO AROUND 170/160 IN 2007 - POLICE ESTIMATE OVER 50% TO BE GANG/ORGANISED CRIME RELATED
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