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These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby dmills » May 18th, 2008, 1:36 am

SolidWood wrote:"Blacks get 38-40% of the welfare benefits but make up only 12-14% of the population in the U.S. In referance to size of population, blacks have the highest welfare recepient percentage".


Your making this too easy.

Like my man Will Rodgers so eloquently stated " There's lies, there's damn lies and then there's statistics". Basically that stat is based on old data taken from 1994 when black poverty was at 33%. Black poverty has dramatically decreased since then, as have welfare recipients. Obviously demographics have changed a little bit since 1994 but you're a smart guy so you probably knew that already. And the reason I focus mainly on Cali and Mexicans is for a couple of reasons.

1) Because I'm playing the game by the parameters that YOU set. So it wouldn't be fair to group ALL Latinos into one big group when YOU are clearly talking about you're sureno homies. Latinos come in all shapes, sizes, nationalities and more importantly (depending on your perspective) colors.

2)I live here so it's all I really have to go on. :wink:
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Postby Old Shatterhand » May 19th, 2008, 8:31 am

U.S. Census Bureau Historical Poverty Tables:

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/histpov/hstpov3.html
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Re: crybabies

Postby TheReal » May 19th, 2008, 9:47 am

dmills wrote:
SolidWood wrote:
dmills wrote:
SolidWood wrote:
dmills wrote:
SolidWood wrote:
dmills wrote:
SolidWood wrote:Blacks are always whining about Mexicans working for less and taking all the jobs. Blacks weren't working these jobs anyways for the most part. They are too busy looking for handouts and crying about how life is so "hard in the hood". Ha Ha, yeah real hard, Icebox full of foodstamp provided food, cell phones, cable t.v., X-box, shiny new rims etc. Poverty? You don't even know what poverty really is. Life is a cakewalk "in the hood". Food provided, housing provided, electricity and running water provided and hang out all day watching t.v. and complaing how tough things are. Put things in perspective. The so-called "leaders of the black community" have sold you out. They have a vested interest in keeping blacks in their victim mentality. Everything is someone elses fault, you're not responsible for yourself or you're own actions. Truth is the first casualty in these p.c. times when it comes to discussing problems in the black community. If someone says anything critical of blacks, bam! out comes the race card and the dialogue gets shut down. If the person putting forth the criticism is of a race other than black they are labeled a racist. If they are black they are labeled a house negro, uncle tom or sellout. Don't dare question the "black community". Don't dare even insinuate that any problems might be of their own doing, that's "racism". "It's all whiteys fault, blacks are always victims". It's pathetic. Then blacks wonder why they get no respect.


Very interesting and insightful comments... Too bad you're about 15 years too late. All of those problems that you mentioned as being black oriented are now latino problems (not gloating by the way). Times have changed or have you been in prison too long to notice?
I don't really see Mexicans playing the race card or shutting down dialogue when someone points out problems in their varrios. I don't see them blaming all their problems and shortcomings on "whitey". I don't see Mexicans promoting a victim mentality. It's blacks who have elevated whining about being victims to an art form. According to the prevailing black victim mentality nothing is their fault, they take no responsibility for their actions. They have 7 kids with 5 different women and don't take care of none of them, it's not their fault is what they whine. They refuse to even try and work and rather to live at "mommas" house or scab off of some hood rats welfare, it's not their fault is what they whine. They're locked up for slingin dope, it's not their fault is what they whine. blacks are commiting genocide against their own race, killing other blacks in huge numbers, it's not their fault is what they whine. A whole community of little boys and very few men. It's a sign of weakness and utter failure. Pathetic. I'm 100% Wood, I've lived in predominately Mexican varrios and I've lived in predominately black hoods, and their is a huge difference between the two. I know blacks get all defensive when you call them out on their shit but it don't change the truth. And yeah I've done lots of time behind the walls, again their is a huge difference between the rugs and the ese's in the pen also.


LOL at this shit! So predictable. I just love how this dude talks about black on black crime and black drug dealers while convieniantly ignoring Latino on Latino crime and drugs ( which are being routed into the USA primarily through Mexico). As I said before some of what this dude is saying may have had some validity 15-20 years ago but not today. Times have changed and you got some catching up to do. All of the short comings you have mentioned have dramatically decreased across the board statistically speaking. Have you even been in a welfare office lately? Not too many blacks in there nowadays, lot's of Latinos though, and even quite a few Asians surprisingly. If you ever take a look at the list of people who get busted for welfare fraud most are Mexican or Asian, very few are black.

And you mention whining as if blacks hold a monopoly on whining. There's a lot of so called whining being done by whites who are trying to curb illegals. And lot's of Mexicans whining about wanting a free pass into this country i.e. amnesty.

And to my Mexican peeps I'm not trying to put you down but I'm trying to point out the absurdity of the comments made by this fool just to stir up BS. This wood is obviously a Sureno ball washer who can apparently type and juggle nuts in his mouth at the same time. Be sure to wash your hands before you touch the keyboard again.
Not many blacks on welfare? Ha Ha! Sure. Also that's one tiny point, what about all the other stuff you conveniently ignore? Yeah you're right about other races whining but you're people have raised it to an art form. As for the "Sur ball washer" thing, ha ha! So giving respect to my Mexicano homeboys just equals asskissing in your eyes? Not surprising considering your people don't know shit about respect. Your ignorance isn't surprising it's typical.


All what other stuff? Let's see go down the list;

Drugs- most of the drug flow in the US comes from Mexico and most of the drug trade in LA is dominated by Southsiders who take their orders from the Mexican Mafia.


Handout's/Welfare- 15 years ago blacks made up most of the welfare cases in cali. Now Mexicans make up the vast majority of welfare cases. Not to mention the free medical treatment they get at hospitals across the country, all at the expense of tax payers like me.

Teen pregnancy- Yet another area where Mexicans are number 1.

Try again. I didn't ignore anything. As for the respect issue, it's one thing to respect people, but it's another to accuse a particular group of people -i.e. blacks - of selling drugs, killing each other and living off of welfare and hand outs but then ignore it when your "Mexicano" homeboys do it on an even larger scale. So yes in my eye's that is ball washing, or at the very least it's myopic. And I also find it interesting that you choose to post your comments on a black/latino issues forum. But you're not ball washing?
You're focusing your stats on cali and LA. Look at the national picture. And again, you're trying to portray my argument as if I'm saying only blacks are on welfare, sell dope etc. My point is about blacks ATTITUDES about these things. You're people think everything is owed to them. They whine and cry about every tough time they encounter. I'm talking about the VICTIM MENTALITY that is so prevalent in the black community. And I posted this on the Latino/black forum because I read so many posts by blacks denigrating Mexicans, talking shit, telling 'em to go back to mexico etc. .



And you feel the need to regurgitate this issue why exactly? Where the hell do you see posts by blacks telling Mexicans to go back to Mexico? That's mainly your people doing that. People on this forum for the most part are just hashing out some issues -namely homicides- within the black and brown communities and trying to figure out a better way to co-exist in this great country of ours. I'm still trying to figure out your angle here and since you haven't made one single coherent point yet my best guess is that you are just here to stir up BS.

Blacks are crybabies, how are we supposed to respond to that exactly? Are we supposed to come to some sort of consensus about the varying degrees of bitching done by various racial groups or something? Are blacks on this forum going to all of a sudden go, "Gee, you know what, that guy solidwood is right. We do cry too much." Where are you going with this topic exactly?

Again as I've stated before, Mexicans and Woods for the most part share alot of similiar values, respect, honor, loyalty. So, I stick up for those I respect. Again, I wouldn't expect you to understand this


This shit is LOL funny! So let me get this straight. Mexicans and woods share similar values, so if that's the case why do nortenos not get along with surenos or woods? Do the Nortes not have the same honor, respect, and loyalty as their southern counterparts? They are Mexican after all. You don't even need to bother with a response because we both know what you're preaching is BS. It's about money, period.

And for the record I think this topic needs to be locked because this guy hasn't made a single coherent point and we can all see where this is headed. Put this in the "all other race issues" section.


You made some good points. Some folks will eternally use devices, or bring up "sore spots," in order to deflect from the relevancy of the topic being discussed.

It's like me saying that termites are a nuisance, only for a termite, or someone who's pro-termite, to come back at me and say that folks who complain about termites HAVE BAD CREDIT, and are always bitching and moaning about their economic status. This is done, AGAIN, so as to steer you off the topic, in hopes that you will shut down, or be stifled in your presentation, because of a "sore", or suppposed weak spot of yours, is being addressed, to where if you continue to pursue your position-whether it be righteous or not-the prospect of your opponent continuing to rehash this "spot" or "spots," (whether the "spot" or "spots" is relevant to the issue at hand, what you're discussing, or is true, half true, or not true at all; at least contextually), is ever present, so as to cause deflection and steer you off of topic.
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Re: crybabies

Postby dmills » May 19th, 2008, 10:49 pm

You made some good points. Some folks will eternally use devices, or bring up "sore spots," in order to deflect from the relevancy of the topic being discussed.

It's like me saying that termites are a nuisance, only for a termite, or someone who's pro-termite, to come back at me and say that folks who complain about termites HAVE BAD CREDIT, and are always bitching and moaning about their economic status. This is done, AGAIN, so as to steer you off the topic, in hopes that you will shut down, or be stifled in your presentation, because of a "sore", or suppposed weak spot of yours, is being addressed, to where if you continue to pursue your position-whether it be righteous or not-the prospect of your opponent continuing to rehash this "spot" or "spots," (whether the "spot" or "spots" is relevant to the issue at hand, what you're discussing, or is true, half true, or not true at all; at least contextually), is ever present, so as to cause deflection and steer you off of topic.


Exactly. Which is why I won't even bother with this dude anymore.
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Postby jmaups2005 » May 19th, 2008, 10:56 pm

yes he is a joke
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Postby AztecNinja » June 2nd, 2008, 6:03 pm

SolidWood wrote:
Mcminister wrote:yo u crazy thinkin black folks are that lazy

i dono what kind of black person u talkin bout...most niggaz are always up to somethin....ur right on the fact that black folks blow they money like idiots i have to agree...that chrysler 300 sittin on 23s and nice paint and TVs's in that ghetto ass project apt don go good with police and also makes no sense to have such an expensive car and still living in the projects wen u kno damn well u cuda got a beter apt and did u shit there and not get heat fo it.

but u talkin buot lazy .....are u mexican, u were defendin them earlier...u kno how lazy mexicans are...after their hard labour they have to do ,they wudnt stand up to get a beer, even other latinos critisize them fo bein so damn lazy....most mexicans are huge coz of their lazyness....me n my mexican frends from back in the day always use to crack racial jokes and id always clown them on how lazy mexicans are
Nope I ain't Mexican, !00% Peckerwood. As for Mexicans being known for being lazy? Where? They are usually some of the hardest working people you will meet, and they take family very seriously. Also, honoring their word and having a sense of integrity is important to them. These are the values that I share and why I respect them. Unfortunately, these values are in short supply in the black community.
+1, good point Wood!
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Postby Skrewdriver » June 13th, 2008, 8:56 am

Old Shatterhand wrote:U.S. Census Bureau Historical Poverty Tables:

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/histpov/hstpov3.html

Scroll down to the figures for "Blacks alone" and you will see that as of 2006 black poverty rate was 33.4%. So dmills is wrong again when he said in 1994 black poverty was at 33% and that level has dramatically decreased since then.
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Re: crybabies

Postby thekinks1886 » July 3rd, 2008, 7:06 am

sweetness wrote:
SolidWood wrote:Blacks are always whining about Mexicans working for less and taking all the jobs. Blacks weren't working these jobs anyways for the most part. They are too busy looking for handouts and crying about how life is so "hard in the hood". Ha Ha, yeah real hard, Icebox full of foodstamp provided food, cell phones, cable t.v., X-box, shiny new rims etc. Poverty? You don't even know what poverty really is. Life is a cakewalk "in the hood". Food provided, housing provided, electricity and running water provided and hang out all day watching t.v. and complaing how tough things are. Put things in perspective. The so-called "leaders of the black community" have sold you out. They have a vested interest in keeping blacks in their victim mentality. Everything is someone elses fault, you're not responsible for yourself or you're own actions. Truth is the first casualty in these p.c. times when it comes to discussing problems in the black community. If someone says anything critical of blacks, bam! out comes the race card and the dialogue gets shut down. If the person putting forth the criticism is of a race other than black they are labeled a racist. If they are black they are labeled a house negro, uncle tom or sellout. Don't dare question the "black community". Don't dare even insinuate that any problems might be of their own doing, that's "racism". "It's all whiteys fault, blacks are always victims". It's pathetic. Then blacks wonder why they get no respect.
You obviously don't know the history of blacks in America.Blacks aren't cry babies,they just want equal pay and equal opportunities and they are not getting that in America.Niether or hispanics.Blacks and Hispanics are both tired of eating Hamburger Helper while watching whites eat t-bone steaks.The sooner hispanics and blacks unite the better.You both deserve your cake and eat it too so go and get it and stop pointing fingers at each other.Stop bieng so retarded!


Obama is gettin unequal pay, so is oprah
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Re: crybabies

Postby Smokefather » July 5th, 2008, 12:25 am

first of all the a-hole who says black are babies come talk to cuz I'm black in L.A so first yes blacks have rims and such but that's onl cuz dru money so even with srims on the car yea they move the car ain't goin no where. Also I'm hispanic so first thing for peace black on black and brown on brown need to stop, then black on brown. O yea solidwood I believe stop tryen that old mumbo jumbo bout we no nothing bout be poor trust me we been poor for bout 500 years andsome got the merican dream yes I'm broke,yes weve been worken at jobs mexicans work cept the deference was cotton not front plus for 500 years so no offence but til mexicans are force to work jobs against their will for 500 years with no money worring bout kkks then come talk smack. By the way(Jamaican-Puerto Rican)<--------------------------------
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Re: crybabies

Postby Smokefather » July 5th, 2008, 12:28 am

sorry for the messed up words nighttime and sleepy ps blacks aren't pathetic and blacks and browns will be together
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Re: crybabies

Postby StillNoScript » July 6th, 2008, 2:11 am

SolidWood wrote:Life is a cakewalk "in the hood".


Tell that to the police asking for more funding and more injunctions "in the hood", retard.
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Re: crybabies

Postby Vincetheprince » July 6th, 2008, 3:44 am

HAHAHA LOL good point
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