Maravilla still have "Green light" on them by Eme

[all eyes on me]

Thank you for educating me on that! I would look at old Eme Pics and see Veteranos from MV, that why I couldnt understand the beef, but now I do. The other question was, the black and brown beef is mostly prison sh*t from Eme. Like I mentioned in a previous post, I have run into Vatos from clikas that say personally the dont have any beef with blacks. Thats its just strickly business, especially in the pintas. I also read a post on another site were a Vato from F13 was talking about the War between them and ECC. That he didnt think it was cool they were fighting basically cuz of race.... that it was basically something the Eme was trying to enforce.

[DICERxOVSBAxBMTLs]

^HOW SO MV WERE THE ONES WHO CALLD FOR THE GREENLIGHT TO BE LIFTED ASKN EME...MV GANGS ARE DEEP ROOTED IN LA VARRIO LIFE, ALL OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS IN EME WHERE FROM MV GANGS SO EME N MV HAVE MOSTLY GOOD HISTORY TELL THE GREENLIGHT IN THE EARLY 90s.

O, it's cuzz I thought it was more serious.

IT WAS, FOLKS WERE DIEING N GETTING SHOT BUT OVER ALL I THINK EME N MV HAVE NEVER HAD BAD BLOOD BEFOR...JUST THE TAX.

[twocost]

EME having MV ride 13 in the pen shows that eMe only cares about numbers sometimes.

Correct me if I'm wrong... But in prison aren't numbers the only thing that matters? There are 10 fools over there by the benches, then we have 30 fools over here by the basket ball courts and were gonna run up on them... Who do you thinks gonna win? Numbers pretty much runs all.

[Vincetheprince]

Exactly

[MMRbkaRudog]

Numbers are not the only thing that matters.

[Vincetheprince]

But they're important.

[DICERxOVSBAxBMTLs]

ONE WOULD BE A STREET SMART, BOOK SMART OG THATS TRUE TO HIS SHIT BUT NUMBERS ARE IMPORTANT TO.

[Vincetheprince]

simon

[youngspade]

Trust me. Green light is dropped but in the streets of Los Angeles ALL MARAVILLA GANGS still beef it with SUR Gangs and this is coming from both sides. SUR and MV, don't get it wrong I live in east los at the moment so I hear it first hand and thats all I'm going to say. Just trust that its coming from very reliable sources and believe what I'm telling you because I wouldn't speak on something that I know nothing about. Just go into Maravilla hoods and you'll see 187 Sur tagged up on the walls. The walls aren't where I'm getting my info. from so don't trip haha. That'd be the day. Maravilla is Maravilla until they hit la pinta then they go sur to make the south side Mexicans (La EME) stronger and more powerful. They still don't pay taxes, that won't ever happen. I'm not disrespecting or anything I'm just saying the facts.

Wither or not they are actually "on the main lines" putting in mad work for the SUR 13, This is something I know nothing about.

They dont get along in jail like they do in the streets.

[issaissa]

maravilla is on eof teh oldest gangs in la they have been around since the 1940 's

[MARTINEZ]

Maravilla is still deep for being a gang that had the greenlight for 13 years I would say, "Not bad".

Local Boys Maravilla (LBMV) - Just joined into an other MV gang
Gage (MVR) - Active
Marianna (MMV) - Active
Maravilla Flats (MVF) - Died than the youngsters instead of keeping it alive wanted to make a new MV Gang but failed - {Died because the greenlight}
El Hoyo Maravilla (HM, HMV) - still around but dieing from old age {was dieing before the greenlight}
Ford Maravilla (FMV) - Active
Fraser Maravilla (FRM) - Active
High Times (Stoners) Maravilla (HTSMV,HTSMVP) - still around but dieing {was dieing before the greenlight}
Juarez Maravilla (JM, JMV) - Active
Kern Maravilla (KMV) - Died from old age {before the greenlight}
Lomita Maravilla (LMC)(LMVP) - Died from old age {before the greenlight}
Lopez Maravilla (LMV) - Active
Lote Maravilla (LMR) - still around but dieing from old age {was dieing before the greenlight}
Maravilla Projects (MVP, MVPJS) - Active
Maravilla Rifa (MVR) - Active
Moeriya Maravilla (MYAMV) - Active
Pomeroy Maravilla (PMV) - Active
Rascals Maravilla (RX3MV),(RX3MVP) - Active
Rock Maravilla (RMV) - Active
Arizona Maravilla (AMV, AM,) - Active
Soto Maravilla (SMV) - Died from old age {before the greenlight}

So out of all of them if you can see. 13 Active, 3 Died before the greenlight, 3 are weak and was getting weak before the greenlight, 1 joined an other MV Family (lets say) and only one truly died because of the greenlight (mostly because of weak youngsters). So it all depends on what is deep to you?

There's NEVER been a gang called SOTO MV.... It was EL HOYO SOTO (Defunct)

Local/Loco Boys MV....where were they at? and who'd they get into to?

they were Never a bonafied MV gang....just like KAOS MV... just a crew that was "UNDER" a real MV Gang

[MARTINEZ]

there was also SOTO STREET (also defucnt) but, destict from EL HOYO SOTO

but NEVER was there a SOTO MARAVILLA....Never.

[MARTINEZ]

"...Maravilla's way of paying taxes is going on the main line in prison as of now..."/

100% bull shit! ^^^ right there

Maravilla gangs have never been there own car in the pinta...like say the FRESNO BULLDOGS

Maravilla gangs fall under SUREñOS 13 in all Califas pintas

[DICERxOVSBAxBMTLs]

maravilla is on eof teh oldest gangs in la they have been around since the 1940 's

TRY THE 1920s HOMIE.

[youngspade]

"...Maravilla's way of paying taxes is going on the main line in prison as of now..."/

100% bull shit! ^^^ right there

LOL

[MARTINEZ]

Since MV beef with most of the Surs, how's their relationship with black gangs?

NOT TO MENY BLACK GANGS IN EAST LOS DONT THINK THERES ANY REALLY.

Officially there are no established black gangs in EAST LOS

There are black vatos from some Boyle Heigths/EAST LOS varrios

example :

EVERGREEN DUKES

ELA 13 DUKES

CUATRO FLATS

GERAGHTY LOMA has one

Ect ect

[MARTINEZ]

my homeboy (S------) is a really dark Mexican (darker than most blacks)

so in the L.A. County jail --> they say, "hey, there's that black vato from THE LOTT".....

does that count?

[all eyes on me]

So in the Penn the ride with Surs, but on the street they do their own thing. Who's MV main rival???

[youngspade]

So in the Penn the ride with Surs, but on the street they do their own thing. Who's MV main rival???

Which one? MS-13 itself? 18teeens.

[DICERxOVSBAxBMTLs]

So in the Penn the ride with Surs, but on the street they do their own thing. Who's MV main rival???

Which one? MS-13 itself? 18teeens.

VATOS TALKN ABOUT MV=MARAVILLA NOT MS=MARA SALVATRUCHA.

[MARTINEZ]

maravilla is on eof teh oldest gangs in la they have been around since the 1940 's

TRY THE 1920s HOMIE.

Wrong ese.

the oldest MV gang is EL HOYO MARAVILLA - which is from 1939

even by there own admission.

all the other "Original" MV gangs came after that 40's, 50's ect ect

[all eyes on me]

That's where Joe "Peg Leg" Morgan was from. So can anyone tell me who their main rivals are? I know they beef with all Surs and even each other at times. But who do they really go at it with?

[MARTINEZ]

That's where Joe "Peg Leg" Morgan was from. So can anyone tell me who their main rivals are? I know they beef with all Surs and even each other at times. But who do they really go at it with?

El Hoyo Maravilla

Enemigos:

• THE LOTT 13 #1 enemy since the 1980’s to the present

• Geraghty Loma # 1 enemy during the 1960s and 70s

• Lil Valley ……Southern border enemy

• White Fence

• All SUR varrios in East Los

[all eyes on me]

Thats crazy! So for example when someone from EMV goes to the penn, theyre not gonna beef with a cat from WF or L13, cuz the ride with the Surs? I know there are no black gangs in ELA, when I lived in the wood, you would always hear stories that brothers should keep their asses out of ELA. SO MV beefs with black gangs also?

[MARTINEZ]

Thats crazy! So for example when someone from EMV goes to the penn, theyre not gonna beef with a cat from WF or L13, because the ride with the Surs? I know there are no black gangs in ELA, when I lived in the wood, you would always hear stories that brothers should keep their asses out of ELA. SO MV beefs with black gangs also?

Lemme put it like this…

In EAST LOS …there are no black gangs to beef with what-so-ever


So it’s SUR vs. SUR varrios

SUR vs. Maravilla varrios

Maravilla vs. Maravilla varrios


We don’t the time nor the energy for anyone else

[sickside]

MARTINEZ..................sickside"]Maravilla is still deep for being a gang that had the greenlight for 13 years I would say, "Not bad".

Local Boys Maravilla (LBMV) - Just joined into an other MV gang
Gage (MVR) - Active
Marianna (MMV) - Active
Maravilla Flats (MVF) - Died than the youngsters instead of keeping it alive wanted to make a new MV Gang but failed - {Died because the greenlight}
El Hoyo Maravilla (HM, HMV) - still around but dieing from old age {was dieing before the greenlight}
Ford Maravilla (FMV) - Active
Fraser Maravilla (FRM) - Active
High Times (Stoners) Maravilla (HTSMV,HTSMVP) - still around but dieing {was dieing before the greenlight}
Juarez Maravilla (JM, JMV) - Active
Kern Maravilla (KMV) - Died from old age {before the greenlight}
Lomita Maravilla (LMC)(LMVP) - Died from old age {before the greenlight}
Lopez Maravilla (LMV) - Active
Lote Maravilla (LMR) - still around but dieing from old age {was dieing before the greenlight}
Maravilla Projects (MVP, MVPJS) - Active
Maravilla Rifa (MVR) - Active
Moeriya Maravilla (MYAMV) - Active
Pomeroy Maravilla (PMV) - Active
Rascals Maravilla (RX3MV),(RX3MVP) - Active
Rock Maravilla (RMV) - Active
Arizona Maravilla (AMV, AM,) - Active
Soto Maravilla (SMV) - Died from old age {before the greenlight}

So out of all of them if you can see. 13 Active, 3 Died before the greenlight, 3 are weak and was getting weak before the greenlight, 1 joined an other MV Family (lets say) and only one truly died because of the greenlight (mostly because of weak youngsters). So it all depends on what is deep to you?[/quote]

There's NEVER been a gang called SOTO MV.... It was EL HOYO SOTO (Defunct)

Local/Loco Boys MV....where were they at? and who'd they get into to?

they were Never a bonafied MV gang....just like KAOS MV... just a crew that was "UNDER" a real MV Gang..............................



Soto or how ever you say it! it was there at one at one point but you might have more info. on that, because i always wounder were they were located? or what happen to there terrorty? or how did they even come around? And I believe it was Local boys. They got into one of the Project MV gangs sorry for not knowing which one but I know for a fact it was a Project MV gang!



MARTINEZ................."there was also SOTO STREET (also defucnt) but, destict from EL HOYO SOTO


..............."MARTINEZ"]"...Maravilla's way of paying taxes is going on the main line in prison as of now..."/

100% bull shit! ^^^ right there

Maravilla gangs have never been there own car in the pinta...like say the FRESNO BULLDOGS

Maravilla gangs fall under SUREñOS 13 in all Califas pintas[/quote]


that is funny because it is 100% bull shit. And yes when MV goes to the pen the fall under SUR real quick because mostly there ties wasn't cut off completely just when it comes to "funding" and "Say So". but the bull dogs dont fall under SUR! big dog....just resent days they truly have no relations with the Sur!


"MARTINEZ"][........="DICERxOVSBAxBMTLs"]..........."]maravilla is on eof teh oldest gangs in la they have been around since the 1940 's

TRY THE 1920s HOMIE..........

Wrong ese.

the oldest MV gang is EL HOYO MARAVILLA - which is from 1939

even by there own admission.

all the other "Original" MV gangs came after that 40's, 50's ect ect[/quote]


Actually I heard from family and people from MV that Lomita Maravilla was truly the first! HMV was just the biggest at the time. So it was more wide known as the oldest because hardly any one even heard about Lomita MV. Hell even I dont know were they were located? what happen to them? who took over them? who was there biggest enemy? nothing and I never heard any ANY ONE ever truly talk about Lomita MV or Kern MV shit in my eyes those two from what I heard was truly the OG's of the MV ! But I do have more info on Kern thou way more than Lomita.


MARTINEZ.................That's where Joe "Peg Leg" Morgan was from. So can anyone tell me who their main rivals are? I know they beef with all Surs and even each other at times. But who do they really go at it with?...........


El Hoyo Maravilla

Enemigos:

• THE LOTT 13 #1 enemy since the 1980’s to the present

• Geraghty Loma # 1 enemy during the 1960s and 70s

• Lil Valley ……Southern border enemy

• White Fence

• All SUR varrios in East Los[/quote]


Big Dog no disrespect but I would say White Fence is there #1 since when they were both started! but you are there next door neighbor so you would know better but its just I guess I heard different. So if you can show some light am still in the darkness.




Peace Out

[HIGHINSP]

what about...primera mv...i know smiling faces from PMV...lived in my varrio for years...all his carnales from the varrio...do you remember that click...i know an older cat from lopez...he said they were small and been died out before the 90s...high

[sickside]

Lomita primera Maravila.homie its one gang the same gang just one long ass name!..lol,or I could be mistaken you never know. Some of the older cats of East Los has to jump on this question!

[MARTINEZ]

"...Big Dog no disrespect but I would say White Fence is there #1 since when they were both started! but you are there next door neighbor so you would know better but its just I guess I heard different. So if you can show some light am still in the darkness…../

White Fence is in Boyle Heights homie

THE LOTT 13 and EL HOYO MARA are both in Unicorporated EAST LOS.

The only calle that separates THE LOTT 13 and EL HOYO MARA is Brooklyn aka Cesar Chavez

Trust me.

Look at any of the roll calls / hit ups and see how is the 1st ones they diss….THE LOTT


I wonder why

[HIGHINSP]

@MARTINEZ...any info on PMV???primera mv...was it active back when you were...cause you seem to be like 1 or 2 genertaions older then i am...just curious...gracias...high

[yardstick]

"...Maravilla's way of paying taxes is going on the main line in prison as of now..."/

100% bull shit! ^^^ right there

Maravilla gangs have never been there own car in the pinta...like say the FRESNO BULLDOGS

Maravilla gangs fall under SUREñOS 13 in all Califas pintas

no disrespect intended...and i have been out of the mix for a while...but:

I remember that MV g's always had to PC up in county and the pen because of the green light on MV gangs, and the reason that they were always VERY outnumbered relative to south siders.

I heard tat MV can hit the main line now because they have formed a sizable car that can hold their own, since there are so many heads that have caught long cases, and there are always new soldiers from ELA coming in and out of the CDC. The green green light is still in effect...i think (i see "tax free" on some of their hit ups), but now they can protect themselves in the Pen better.

I think (and this is a guess) the only time they have probably associated with southsiders in the Pen, is when there are race riots. Then they probably jump in to back up raza. (probably a "race" before gang outlook). Some one can enlighten me on that one, because i heard that NS and NF will step out of race riots, unless they are directly involved in them (they don't have the "race" before gang outlook). And, I heard that F Bulldogs will back up either Sur or NS/NF during race riots. But...all this is just speculation on my part.....so someone can school me.

[MARTINEZ]

Schools in session ^^^^

Maravilla gangs NO longer have the green light and therefore are free to walk the main line in the condado

Unless they talk that “Maravilloso” shit and PC up

It doesn’t have anything to do with them having numbers



The Verde is OFF because they broke that shit down and got with the program again

They are absolutely under the SURENOS 13 in the pinta

Same yardas / celling up with the SUR


Its only there youngster out here in the Calles (who have never done time)

who are talking outta there ass and keep yelling that “Sewer-Rat” and “Tax-Free” BS

Even though they’re BIG homies are throwing spreads with the SUR in the pinta


………………………

FRESNO Bulldogs are on their own again, since many years now…..

SUR and NORTE don’t want them…but they got some riders and will stick mufuckas

……………………

Primera Lomita Maravilla is DEFUNCT / OBSOLETE



Soy Martinez
THE LOTT 13 ~ East Los Area