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1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » November 26th, 2008, 12:08 pm

Remember about those Alfi I told you guys and gals about??? Well...

This is also the reason I love watching our news there's always something fucked up like this. Basically 3 or 4 people in a Golf 3 with dark tinted windows came up to an unmarked Macedonian Alfi unit police car with Alfi inside and started shooting with AK's, the result is 1 policemen is killed(39 years old) 2 are injured and the car is totally shot out. This happened in Skopje in the parking lot of a mathematical university around 12 pm today. Without any warning, these guys shot up the Alfi car which was on a routine patrol around the neighbourhood. This was a hit by some OC group, obviously...

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Убиен е полицаец во напад врз патрола на „алфи“ кај ПМФ


39 годишен полицаец Африм Арифи е убиен а двајца негови колеги се повредени во оружениот напад на полициска патрола денеска напладне на паркингот на Природно математичкиот факултет во Скопје. Тројцата алфи биле во необележан автомобил во редовна контрола. Возеле од населбата Ченто кон факултетот каде и биле пресретнати. Напаѓачите, најверојатно 3ца или 4ца од автомобил Голф 3 со затемнети стакла пукале кон полицајците без предупредување. Полицајците немале можност да возвратат.



Ова е возилото во кое биле алфите. Бројните дупки од куршуми зборуваат за интензитетот на нападот. По неполна минута маскираните напаѓачи избегале со автомобилот со кој дошле. Полицијата во Скопје е мобилизирана, улиците се под силно полициско обезбедување, хеликоптери надлетуваат а граничните премини се блокирани. МВР најостро ќе реагира на нападот изјави министерката за внатрешни работи Јанкуловска:



- Во последниот период МВР имаше огромен број на успешни реализации. Најголем дел од нив беа резултат на успешната работа на мобилната полициска единица Алфа. Како еден од мотивите не ја исклучуваме ни одмаздата за претходни акции на полицијата.



МВР претпоставува дека станува збор за добро организиран напад кој претходно бил внимателно подготвуван.



Нападот на полициските алфи се случи среде бел ден во двор полн со студенти. Дел од куршумите завршија и во факултетската зграда.



Долготрајно пукање ги вознемири студентите и вработените на ПМФ. Сознанието дека во дворот на факултетот се случува крвава драма предизвикало паника, раскажуваат дел од нив. Во групи го напуштаа факултетот откако претходно биле легитимирани од полицијата:



- Бевме само зачудени. Не бевме на предавања туку во читална. Потоа ни кажаа дека некои поминувале кога се случувало тоа.


- Многу пукање.
- Во кое време?
- Околу 12 часот.



Годинава ова е втор напад на патрола со полициски жртви. Во јануари на излезот од Скопје беше застрелан полицаецот Зоран Марковски.

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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » November 26th, 2008, 12:24 pm

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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Azure9920 » November 26th, 2008, 2:12 pm

What makes this OC?
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » November 26th, 2008, 8:22 pm

Azure9920 wrote:What makes this OC?


It was an OC group that carried out the attack, no shit. We don't have street gangs here...the closest thing you'll get to a street gang is football hooligans...and we don't have much of those either. Actually, I'm not sure if we have them at all, really. Organized crime groups and the culture is as rampant throughout Macedonia as street gangs and that culture is throughout the states. It's not a select group of people, maybe idk what in your view in a city like Skopje 30 people all the same that are the OC? It's hundreds upon hundreds of interconnected local groups spread across the country and the region and the contient and finally the world.

When Johnny started hyping up the Albanian mob, hundreds of articles were found that pointed out facts from dozens upon dozens of sources. Westside had to change his theory, I'm not sure what it was before he started on the Albanian thing with Johnny but I'm guessing it didn't involve Albanians, AT ALL.

Albanian mob is the same as the Serbian or Bulgarian mob. Same size, same power. Albanians = thousands of members and associates in Tirana. Bulgarians = thousands of members and associates in Sofia. Serbians = thousands of members and associates in Belgrade.

Albanians' major power bases are Albania, Kosovo and Western Macedonia. Bulgarians power bases are Bulgaria, Eastern Macedonia(our closest allies where bloodlines are spread), Western Turkey, Bucharest Romania as well as Northeastern Greece. Serbians' major power bases are Northern Macedonia/Kumanovo areas where Serbs are plenty, Kosovska Mitrovica in Kosovo, Serbia, Montenegro and some parts of Sarajevo and Zagreb(Croatians dominant).
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » November 26th, 2008, 8:23 pm

In shorter terms, it's just another example of a daily war between cops and OC groups here in Macedonia.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » November 26th, 2008, 8:37 pm

Another thing, Skopje is worse than Baghdad...not literally, but theorically...

The situation in Baghdad exploded, and it's calming down slowly. Your gunfights rarely occour anymore and your bombings are daily but scattered.

Shootings like this happen daily, no biggie right? I mean gangs wielding AK47's fuck eachother up in South Central from time to time, and what's one shooting like this in the whole nation? It doesn't even matter that it's the same groups doing this all the time...

Bombings happen, also sometimes, not often, not rarely, but sometimes. Randomly some place gets bombed, most places get shot up and riddled with bullets. We do have NATO and UN soldiers come around from time to time, their military helicopters and war planes parked on the Alexandar Makedonski Airport in Skopje where I landed, with their bases right across which says don't come close or we'll shoot...

Skopje, Tetovo, Gostivar and Kumanovo are four major cities that can explode at any time, and all have a strong Albanian mob presence, an Albanian presence, as well as an UCK presence with videos of UCK soldiers marching through the streets of Kumanovo. If they were to explode, hundreds of people would die each day. What happened in 2001, was NOTHING...with what could've been. UCK had 5,000 troops, but they fought scattered and shot at people from the hills with AK's and snipers in bursts...

If it was to go street to street, our cities are pretty damn small, this isn't no Baghdad where at one point you can't hear shit from what's going on 3 miles away. There are no 3 miles in length here. If something gets bombed, you can hear the explosion. If a gun fight occours, you can hear it.

It's like shootings in Toronto, for example, you go sit infront of your porch all day, 30 miles away some black guy shoots his girlfriend or something. You don't hear shit.

People here fight like little kids, they have very short tempers, when it comes to joking around with insults people are more light than there on it, but when it comes to insults, there is no face to face touching and shit talking, it gets violent and physical real quick and there's screaming, yelling, and it's no pussy fights, just utter chaos.

So what if you was to arm 20,000 of those people with AK's and tell them to kill Albanians???

Neither side would hestitate to shoot up malls moving on to town squares moving onto just other pubic places.

What the fuck am I doing? /quit life
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » November 27th, 2008, 1:21 pm

Macedonia: 1 policeman dead in machine gun attack

The Associated Press
Published: November 26, 2008

SKOPJE, Macedonia: Macedonian authorities say unknown gunmen have shot dead one member of an elite police squad and critically injured another during a drive-by attack in Skopje.

Police spokesman Ivo Kotevski says the officers' vehicle came under machine gun fire from a car in the capital's Gazi Baba district. The gunmen escaped.

A third member of Macedonia's Alpha special police force was lightly injured. Kotevski says no arrests have been made and the motive for Wednesday's attack remains unclear.

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Macedonia Policeman Killers' Vehicle Found

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Police searching the crime scene

27 November 2008 Skopje _ Macedonian police say they have found the vehicle believed to have been used in Wednesday’s attack on policemen in which one officer was killed and another two wounded.

The vehicle Volkswagen Golf was recovered near Skopje lying abandoned in an area known as Kuceviski Pat, the police spokesman Ivo Kotevski on Thursday told local Makfax news agency.

Police conducted raids and questioned dozen of suspects over possible involvement in the attack.

About thirty people were detained for questioning on Wednesday night and on Thursday morning, state news agency MIA informed. Police raids to find the killers continue.

39-year old Afrim A. a member of the special anti crime Alfa police unit was killed and two of his colleagues were injured when unknown gunmen shot at them near the centre of Skopje.

Immediately after the incident, heavily-armed officers upped their presence around all major junctions in the capital Skopje. Search helicopters could be heard patrolling the sky and police blocked all the border crossings in order to prevent the possible suspect’s escape.

Interior Minister Gordana Jankuloska said a press conference that the attack was most likely retaliation for other previous successful police operations. She noted that the police would not succumb to pressure from criminal groups.

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Gazi Baba. LMAO. My cousin lived/s there. :/
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Azure9920 » November 27th, 2008, 1:50 pm

lol
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » November 27th, 2008, 2:40 pm

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW THIS GUY is so desperate to prove Macedonians as bad asses that he thinks Macedonians did this. ALBANIANS DID THIS YOU IDIOT! Only Albanians do things like this, we do it in America, not to mention Illirida, our own country.

Albanian mafia is the same as the Macedonian mafia ey? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and the Macedonians have gone global ey? I see I see, so its you guys who makes close to a hundred billion dollars just on heroin alone?? I see, OH BUT I FORGOT! WE HAVE TO PAY YOU GUYS, thats right how could I forget!? Macedonians tax the Albanian mafiA LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO And a mouse walks up to a lion and say hey, give me all your lunch money right? The Italian mafia cant tax the Albanians in Italy, SO WTF MAKES YOU THINK MACEDONIANDS CAN DO IT IN MACEDONIA WHEN WE GO OUT AND KILL YOUR COPS AND BOMB YOUR HQ'S on a weekly basis?
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » November 28th, 2008, 6:29 pm

AlbaniaUnited wrote:WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW THIS GUY is so desperate to prove Macedonians as bad asses that he thinks Macedonians did this. ALBANIANS DID THIS YOU IDIOT! Only Albanians do things like this, we do it in America, not to mention Illirida, our own country.

Albanian mafia is the same as the Macedonian mafia ey? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and the Macedonians have gone global ey? I see I see, so its you guys who makes close to a hundred billion dollars just on heroin alone?? I see, OH BUT I FORGOT! WE HAVE TO PAY YOU GUYS, thats right how could I forget!? Macedonians tax the Albanian mafiA LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO And a mouse walks up to a lion and say hey, give me all your lunch money right? The Italian mafia cant tax the Albanians in Italy, SO WTF MAKES YOU THINK MACEDONIANDS CAN DO IT IN MACEDONIA WHEN WE GO OUT AND KILL YOUR COPS AND BOMB YOUR HQ'S on a weekly basis?


LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Johnny you never fail to amuse me with your stupidity. You are fucking helarious. xD

Btw Macedonians > Albanians anywhere anytime and you can't do a fucking thing about it. :D
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » November 28th, 2008, 10:47 pm

Thats why the entire Macedonian government couldnt take care of 100 Albanian guerillas in 2001. Because we can do shit about it. Not to mention they werent even apart of the KLA because they attacked Macedonia when Albanians told them not to because Kosova would get a bad rap and perceived in a negative way if we did. We wanted to play the genocide card, not the Balkan you took my land card which everyone uses because the EU doesnt give a fuck about that card.


But no, this incident was not by Albanian rebels, it was by Macedonian crime lords exerting their power on Macedonian police with flash lights lmaoooooo.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » November 29th, 2008, 8:37 am

AlbaniaUnited wrote:Thats why the entire Macedonian government couldnt take care of 100 Albanian guerillas in 2001. Because we can do shit about it. Not to mention they werent even apart of the KLA because they attacked Macedonia when Albanians told them not to because Kosova would get a bad rap and perceived in a negative way if we did. We wanted to play the genocide card, not the Balkan you took my land card which everyone uses because the EU doesnt give a fu-- about that card.


But no, this incident was not by Albanian rebels, it was by Macedonian crime lords exerting their power on Macedonian police with flash lights lmaoooooo.


Still though, Macedonians > Albanians.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » November 29th, 2008, 11:13 am

Yes I heard you, Macedonians > Albanians, anytime, anywhere. You guys are such fierce warriors though. We dont really want to mess with you. I mean it was the Macedonians that caused the most problems in the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans spent more time fighting Albanians then any other race. Before they took over, it took them over 50 years to conquer Albania. Macedonians, Greeks and Serbs just fell down like Dominoes to the Ottomans. And even when they did conquer Albania. They still created the most problems for the Ottomans. But then again, Macedonians, Albanians, anytime, anywhere. The Albanians are terrified already.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Azure9920 » November 30th, 2008, 7:19 pm

AlbaniaUnited wrote:ALBANIANS DID THIS YOU IDIOT! Only Albanians do things like this, we do it in America


Wow.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » November 30th, 2008, 7:40 pm

Azure9920 wrote:
AlbaniaUnited wrote:ALBANIANS DID THIS YOU IDIOT! Only Albanians do things like this, we do it in America


Wow.


:O! What?
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby $outhPhillypuppet » November 30th, 2008, 8:16 pm

Albanian gangs are openly taking shots at police with AKs in America and aint get greenlit by the FBI,DEA or local police department yet?
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » November 30th, 2008, 9:54 pm

$outhPhillypuppet wrote:Albanian gangs are openly taking shots at police with AKs in America and aint get greenlit by the FBI,DEA or local police department yet?




No I didnt mean that Albanians open fire on the police in America, I was trying to tell razbojnik that only Albainans AK's someone in the street like that because he stupidly though that macedonians did that.

the biggest threat on giulianis life was by an Albanian though, and when Joe Lika was convicted two or three prosecutors and DEA agents moved away from New York and started working in their new city.

A bomb exploded at the Shelby township police station in Michigan to stop an investigation by the police on Albanians in shelby though.

Who knows how many incidents have happened that we havent heard about, police around the country also say that Albanian gangs are extremely difficult to infiltrate and in some areas of the country, the police have failed completely to do so.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby VostokSila » December 1st, 2008, 10:21 am

lol do u mean that AKing some1 in the street is an "Albanian thing"?
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby AlbaniaUnited » December 1st, 2008, 4:48 pm

VostokSila wrote:lol do u mean that AKing some1 in the street is an "Albanian thing"?



four/five people gunning down four/five other people in a parking lot? yeah, as far as organized crime goes, its an albanian thing, dont see russians doing it. except for in the movies, in real life they pay the italians a percentage of the money they make :p :D lol
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Faciulina » December 1st, 2008, 8:26 pm

four/five people gunning down four/five other people in a parking lot? yeah, as far as organized crime goes, its an albanian thing, dont see russians doing it. except for in the movies, in real life they pay the italians a percentage of the money they make :p lol


plese be serious albanianunited the camorra and sicilian mafia started using AK when the albanian gangs were not born :D :D :D only an isiot can think an AK killing is an "albanian thing", the camorra killed dozens of people just in the last two months with AK :D :D :D
and yes the italian mafia taxes albanian gangs both in north italy and new york but i think even in other places like germany, plus almost all the albanian shops in new york are taxed by cosa nostra you believe it or not, the protection is an "italian thing", seriously ahahahahah
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby VostokSila » December 2nd, 2008, 5:35 am

as far as organized crime goes, its an albanian thing, dont see russians doing it. except for in the movies, in real life they pay the italians a percentage of the money they make :p lol


Then you are a real idiot.
1) What do you think was in Brighton Beach in the 90's?
2) lol.. in Russia at one point, there were just 1500 Machine Gun (AK) shootings alone, in Moscow. Also in the 90's.
To this day there is AK shootings in Russia lol.. AK = Avtomat Kalashnikova = RUSSIAN GUN.

lol still you claim they pay the italians...
I say Albanians pay Russians money to work in Kosova. Yes.. Kosova is secretly controlled by Russians, the Serb and Albanian groups are just small hooligans.

And I was thinking that you are getting to be a normal and reasonable person. Made a mistake.

Oh.. as for Albans controlling 80% of the heroin in europe.. the biggest heroin market in Europe is in RUSSIA lol XD. Russians make more money even in heroin (which u claim to be an alban specialization).

lol.. in Russian there's a saying, this is said to whoever talks bad Russian "uchi albanskiy" = "learn Albanian".
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Faciulina » December 2nd, 2008, 11:55 am

Kosova is secretly controlled by Russians


kosova is not controlled secretly by russian goverment that's BS

lol still you claim they pay the italians...


they sure paid italians even in brighton beach in the past probably they still pay them in bath beach and other areas

Oh.. as for Albans controlling 80% of the heroin in europe.. the biggest heroin market in Europe is in RUSSIA lol XD. Russians make more money even in heroin (which u claim to be an alban specialization).


yeah that's because i said it's impossible that albanians control 80% of european heroin it's just BS... i bet the heroin coming to russia didn't even pass through balkans it arrives directly from afghanistan through caucaso... the albanians probably control 20% the chechens/russians 10% the turkish pkk 30% and the ndrangheta 40%... the cocaine is a different things because the whole colombian or mexican cocaine pass in the hands of the ndrangheta that controls both spanish and south african routes togheter with sicilian mafia
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby VostokSila » December 2nd, 2008, 3:04 pm

kosova is not controlled secretly by russian goverment that's BS


lol no shit u idiot, I said that in sarcasm.

they sure paid italians even in brighton beach in the past probably they still pay them in bath beach and other areas


lol.. they pay them nothing in Brighton, other areas.. maybe in little italy lol. there are over 60 groups operating in italy, Russian groups. Dont try to BS me like you BS AlbaniaUnited. You are worse than he is. How many italian groups work in Russia?? and I mean WORK not launder money.

i bet the heroin coming to russia didn't even pass through balkans it arrives directly from afghanistan through caucaso


lol why should it come from the Balkans?? :S

the albanians probably control 20% the chechens/russians 10% the turkish pkk 30% and the ndrangheta 40%


Do you mean that all of these control the heroin coming into Russia? or the heroin in eurpoe in general?
These numbers are made up...Ndragheta does not have the same availablity for Heroin as Russians or Albanins or Turks. They control the least ammounts of Heroin, would be the most likely assumption. And if you say that any of these groups (aside from Russians and Chechens) control the heroin coming into Russia then you are a bigger idiot than I have thought.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby thewestside » December 2nd, 2008, 6:18 pm

Faciulina wrote:yeah that's because i said it's impossible that albanians control 80% of european heroin it's just BS... i bet the heroin coming to russia didn't even pass through balkans it arrives directly from afghanistan through caucaso... the albanians probably control 20% the chechens/russians 10% the turkish pkk 30% and the ndrangheta 40%... the cocaine is a different things because the whole colombian or mexican cocaine pass in the hands of the ndrangheta that controls both spanish and south african routes togheter with sicilian mafia


According to pretty much all government and law enforcement reports, 80% of heroin coming into Europe is smuggled through the Balkan routes, which are largely controlled by Albanian groups. There are other groups involved to varying degrees somewhere along the way, both before and after the drug reaches the Balkan region, but the Albanians are still far and away the dominant group. You can't just start throwing out fake numbers to suit your argument because you lose all credibility that way. Just as AlbaniaUnited.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby Faciulina » December 2nd, 2008, 8:58 pm

lol.. they pay them nothing in Brighton, other areas.. maybe in little italy lol. there are over 60 groups operating in italy, Russian groups. Dont try to BS me like you BS AlbaniaUnited. You are worse than he is. How many italian groups work in Russia?? and I mean WORK not launder money.


ahahahahahahah idiot 60 russian groups at work in italy it's your fantasy :D :D :D there is not ANY russian groups in italy except maybe some money laundering in some northern regions, there are italian groups in russia the ndrangheta alone controls dozens of banks there... the russians pay the italian in brooklyn that's sure the russian mafia can't control even moscow there are dozens of etnich groups there and the chechens (not russians) are among the strongest the russian mafia is not a monolith like italian mafia although some media call it red mafia like it is an unique organization

Do you mean that all of these control the heroin coming into Russia? or the heroin in eurpoe in general?


i mean the control of heroin in europe as a whole genius

Ndragheta does not have the same availablity for Heroin as Russians or Albanins or Turks.


you're right ndrangheta have not the same availablity but a far MAJOR :D russian groups (armenians, chechens, ukranians etc.) controls just the domestic markets they have not shit in western europe

According to pretty much all government and law enforcement reports, 80% of heroin coming into Europe is smuggled through the Balkan routes, which are largely controlled by Albanian groups. There are other groups involved to varying degrees somewhere along the way, both before and after the drug reaches the Balkan region, but the Albanians are still far and away the dominant group. You can't just start throwing out fake numbers to suit your argument because you lose all credibility that way. Just as AlbaniaUnited.


thewestside these reports are very old most of them from 1995 or 1998 they are not true the today situation is different through the calabrian ports alone pass the 20-30% of the european heroin and the whole heroin direct to north america or do you think bush put the ndrangheta in the list of the most dangerous drug trafickers for joke? :D
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby thewestside » December 2nd, 2008, 9:58 pm

Faciulina wrote:thewestside these reports are very old most of them from 1995 or 1998 they are not true the today situation is different through the calabrian ports alone pass the 20-30% of the european heroin and the whole heroin direct to north america or do you think bush put the ndrangheta in the list of the most dangerous drug trafickers for joke? :D


Reports as recent as 2006 and 2007 have cited the Albanian's control of the European heroin trade at 80%. Where exactly are you getting that 20-30% of heroin passes through Calabrian ports? The Bush administration put the 'Ndrangheta under the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act because of it's international drug operations. Many criminal and terrorist organizations have been included in the act over the years.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby VostokSila » December 3rd, 2008, 1:12 am

ahahahahahahah idiot 60 russian groups at work in italy it's your fantasy there is not ANY russian groups in italy except maybe some money laundering in some northern regions, there are italian groups in russia the ndrangheta alone controls dozens of banks there... the russians pay the italian in brooklyn that's sure the russian mafia can't control even moscow there are dozens of etnich groups there and the chechens (not russians) are among the strongest the russian mafia is not a monolith like italian mafia although some media call it red mafia like it is an unique organization


I read it somewhere, I tried to find that source but no luck. thewestside, if you can find a source of this it would be great.
Chechens work in Moscow.. Albanians work in Rome ;) atleast we didn't have some foreign people come up and started operating on Russian/former USSR land. The Chechens were part of the USSR, that is why they can work in Moscow.
The media calls it the Red Mafia because there are many ethniceties beside Russians in it like Chechens, Georgians, Ukranians etc..

i mean the control of heroin in europe as a whole genius


If you would use proper english I would not have to ask you.
This does not change the fact that Ndragheta does not have the same availability for H as Albans, Russians or Turks.

you're right ndrangheta have not the same availablity but a far MAJOR


lol.. am sure they have strong presence in Afghanistan, stronger than the Russians or the Albanians or Turks.. infact it is stronger than all 3 of them together (no). You are the same with Italians as AlbaniaUnited is with Albanians.

russian groups (armenians, chechens, ukranians etc.) controls just the domestic markets they have not shit in western europe


That's BS and you know it.. Russians have more in the east than in the west, just like italians have more in the west than the east. And Russian's domestic market has europes biggest heroin market so.. ;)
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » December 3rd, 2008, 9:06 am

My computer rests at my friend's house for 3 fucking days and I come here to see all this going on between yall and just wanna say: I lol'd.

xD

Yeah that was a retaliation attack on the police by an Albanian OC group for several crackdowns on Albanian organized crime throughout Macedonia, the Alfi police officer killed is an Albanian and the 2 injured Alfi police officers are Macedonians, since with all the hell that came after the war they usually put 2 Macedonians and 1 Albanian together in a police patrol car.

For anyone that wants to know what the mafia is really like, from personal experiance, I can say the best movie to watch is Gomorra. Get some subtitles in your native language and give it a look, the accuracy is friggin amazing, the faces, the athmosphere, everything, to a T.

This will also hopefully change Azure's outlook on those fighter types from friggin-helarious-scrawny-ass-16-year-old-drug-dealer-from-chalkfarm-can-whoop-his-ass to don't mess with this muthafukka cause he's equivelent to 2 rhinos.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » December 3rd, 2008, 9:17 am

VostokSila wrote:That's BS and you know it.. Russians have more in the east than in the west, just like italians have more in the west than the east. And Russian's domestic market has europes biggest heroin market so.. ;)


I just wanna comment on this, the Russians are pretty close to both the Serbians and Bulgarians, Macedonians also work with them, it's because of the mentality type of thing, I'm not saying we avoid Italians we have hook ups there too, we avoid groups outside of the continent, and don't get me wrong, I like old Chinese and Japanese folks as well as old blacks, I friggin love Mexicans I think they're helarious, Middle Eastern groups etc.

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One gram of heroin is 80 leva. One dose of the stuff costs five to six leva, although some dealers sell it for two leva. Under the report, there are about 15 000 heroin addicts in Bulgaria, who need an average 1.9 dose of heroin a day. Thus, calculations show that daily heroin market is estimated to stand between 55 million and 135 million leva.

That's between 10 to 100 million dollars a day, 3.6 to 30.6 billion a year.

http://www.sofiaecho.com/article/readin ... 8/catid_29

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This is an interesting article on the Bulgarians in the EU:

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_objecti ... _page.html

Preview:

CHEERS, WE'RE COMING TO RIP YOU OV
PEOPLE INVESTIGATION REVEALED: Bulgarian mafia bringing heroin, hookers & guns 45,000 crooks on their way here Joining EU's great say gangsters I will get so rich, boasts vice girl

MAFIA mobsters in Bulgaria are plotting to flood Britain with heroin, prostitutes and guns when they join the EU in January.

The ruthless hoods are set to infiltrate the UK under the cover of tens of thousands of work-hungry Bulgarians who will flock to these shores legally.

A team of People investigators spent a week in the gangster-plagued East European nation where contract killings are rife and restaurants in the capital Sofia have signs saying: "No guns permitted."

> HAHA We can relate to that here with all types of businesses including the biggest bank in my town and the postal office on the town square(btw today I saw an AK47 for the first time in my life cops on the town square transfering money in a van guarding it)

We had no trouble setting up a phoney prostitution-smuggling deal with one swarthy mobster called Sveto who is reputedly linked to Bulgaria's murderous equivalent of the Kray twins.


As he clinked vodka glasses with our undercover man he bragged: "We can't wait for Bulgaria to join the EU. It is good for people like us. We know we will make a lot of money."


We also spoke to depairing Bulgarian corruption-busters and worried British and Euro crime fighters who all admitted: "The problem's heading here."


Following yesterday's call by Britain's business leaders to curb the expected flood of migrants, we can reveal the Bulgarian mafia will:


BRING a terrifying new wave of gun crime from a nation which has seen 150 gangland assassinations in five years -none of them solved.


FLOOD Britain's cities with tens of millions of pounds worth of dirt-cheap heroin.


BRIBE their customs officials to turn a blind eye.


TRAFFICK thousands of hookers to the UK to make massive profits for vice bosses.


PEDDLE counterfeit money, fake documents and goods.


SMUGGLE across thousands of pregnant women to give birth in NHS hospitals and SELL the babies.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby razbojnik » December 3rd, 2008, 9:18 am

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http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/EOP/NSC/htm ... 3.html#r11


There you go.
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Re: 1 killed 2 injured attack on Macedonian police Alfi Skopje

Postby VostokSila » December 3rd, 2008, 10:08 am

ahahahahahahah idiot 60 russian groups at work in italy it's your fantasy


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... /csis.html this is kind old though, from 1997, but still the figures are pretty much the same, around 60.

"Other countries with a known and active ROC presence include Germany, with 47 groups; and Italy, with 60 groups. The MVD estimates that over 100 ROC groups are active in at least 50 countries."
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