Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

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Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby @1 » August 5th, 2004, 8:20 pm

I assume that most of you people on here are aware of the slave trade in the Sudan where the Black Dinkas in the South are being oppressed by the Arabs in the North. It is a battle on multiple fronts, Its' Muslims in the north, enslaving Christians in the SOuth, and it is Blacks being oppressed by Arabs.

For those that are not aware of the atrocities in the Sudan read the following articles, if not skip them and continue reading, but at least read the 4th one..it is about how Dinka boys have been gang-raped by the Arab slave owners.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=17888

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9712/20/sudan.slavery/

http://www.lnsart.com/Sudan%20Slave%20Story.htm

http://mirrormax.i8.com/custom2.html

Now whats important to note is that there has bee no humantatian aid to the Sudan to end the atrocities, and it appears that eventually the US will go in there to liberate the Dinka people, but if and when they do it, it is going to be very controversial, because it will be look like US vs. Islamic people, and we know what kind of drama that brings, but as it stands now, the US has not decided to go in. Since fighting broke out in 1983, the war has attracted little attention, despite the deaths of an estimated 2 million people. As late as September 1999, then Secretary of State Madeleine Albright reportedly stated that "the human rights situation in Sudan is not marketable to the American people."

What do you think of that quote? "not marketable".....that's deep.
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby Shortty » August 6th, 2004, 11:02 am

I think america would look like hypocrites by going in there to free the "opressed" while at the same opressing minority groups in america...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... _candidate
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby @1 » August 6th, 2004, 11:52 am

Shortty wrote:I think america would look like hypocrites by going in there to free the "opressed" while at the same opressing minority groups in america...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... _candidate


that above link has nothing to do with the topic of this string. you should post that in a new string. We all know that the south is the home to the most racists people in the US whether they are republicans or democrats. The South is the dirty south. Thats a good topic for another string.

Whats going on in the Sudan in the last 10 years is NOTHING compared to what goes on in the US in the last 100 years to minorities. Yes, the US has participated in its dirty deed against minotity groups over the years, but if you think that whats going on in the Sudan is similar, then you dont know whats goin on over there.
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby Ms. Nisi » August 6th, 2004, 1:33 pm

Yeah I read about this the other day. Its a very sad situtation. I hope one day its gets better for people over there. Good post alonso.

alonso wrote: We all know that the south is the home to the most racists people in the US whether they are republicans or democrats. The South is the dirty south.

You definitely got that right!
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby 100 » August 12th, 2004, 3:25 pm

SOME OF THOSE SO CALLED ARABS ARE JUST LIGHTER BROWN AFRICANS LOOK AT SADDAM AND THEN LOOK AT THEM.


BEING A MUSLIM IN NORTH AFRICA PRETTY MUCH IDENTIFIES WITH EVERYTHING ARAB
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby Common Sense » August 15th, 2004, 9:11 am

The situation in Sudan is horrible, and it doesn't seem like true Islamic behavior, at least from what I know about it. I'm not sure if the U.S. should go there. The U.S. has it's hands full already. Secondly, most of the world see the U.S. as a policing empire. Which is good in some countries and bad in other countries, but as you said going over there would be like "I knew the Americans hated the muslims".

I think Canada or France should go over there. Let them have the glory.
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby AcmeWhiteBread » August 17th, 2004, 8:07 pm

A little tid bit for ya....
As you exit basic training in The French Foriegn Legion and receive deployment for any point in Africa. You get to visit Sudan, to be specific a base in the area of township Argo. Its on the Nile and is filled with muslim's of the worst sort. These are the ones who enslave, murder, rape children in the name of Allah the whole swarthy sum of them. So in order to gain real live fire expirience, you get un-official training. The game, locate a pocket of 40-50 of these twisted perverts and take them out. It is strongly encouraged that your first kill be with a knife. But if you can also perch at 2000 meters and use the 50 on them. I have sent my share to the wheel mothership in the sky, its like christmas. They are unfit for life on this planet and the good people od Sudan deserve a break from the satanic muslim beasts.
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby Kemosave » August 18th, 2004, 8:31 am

Don't hold back Acme. Lol.. Seriously that sounds like a very bad situation. Do the Sudanese like the FFL there or does there presence create more drama for them?
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby AcmeWhiteBread » August 18th, 2004, 9:29 am

Well the souther Sudanese do. FFL has a ver small out post there. You are met by a General out there who has just plain been there too long. He is numb to humanity, and actually has taxidermied heads in his house of muslim warlords who prey on the christians. You know what? We dance around the truth on here and let the enemies of the God of compassion and truth get slammed by DX and other facist dogs. The truth is, 20% of islamics live peacfully, 50% are sympathetic to the extremist cause, and will harbor and lie to protect terrorist's. 30% are fiendish killers that, if you want to describe it this way, serve Satan. I have seen them gang rape little christian boys, do unspeakable things to women. They must be eradicated from the earth for the betterment of man kind. And every last muslim hsould be escorted off american soil. RIGHT NOW! Then lets send the troops into Sudan and wipe them off the planet. Those southerners deserve a break. And gives two damns what the " World" thinks?
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby Kemosave » August 18th, 2004, 9:48 am

Thanks for replying. I'll deal with the first part of your post but leave the second as I am for legitimate authority exerting to create change (as in Iraq) but totally 100% against genocide in any form.

What's your view on the Executive Outcomes?

I really would like you to go read the many threads in the religious section as well as the ones here in race and ethnicity. I think you'll find that NOI, Islam, Mormonism, Christianity, Deism, etc.. are not being given a pass and that all beliefs are being discussed and put to the test. Seriously. See what's proving out and what is not. Peace.

Interesting links:

http://www.sierratimes.com/02/08/29/lobaido.htm
http://www.southsudanfriends.org/
http://www.southsudannation.com/
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby Mraka » January 11th, 2005, 11:39 am

There is a peace contract .I think it is signed yesterday.Mr.Powell supported it.
From now on the (?) Sharia is no longer an alternative there.The freedom contract is made only for the south of Sudan.The biggest country of Afrika.It is 7-8 times bigger than Germany.
Several Sudaneese Politician or Generals were as a group on college in USA.One was forced as a commander to shut down a rebellion,in the south,but he went over .And he is now a high range politician ,like his former colleges.Problem in the north with Janjaweed-Millitias goes on.
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby mamlook » January 11th, 2005, 11:56 am

Yeah Manute Bol's tribe is Dinka. Shits been going on for years n years now, really sad. Ive heard the Arab's side of the story but cant remember what it was. Thing is the northern ppl got all the technology, while the south broke as a joke. Reminds me of Israel Vs Palestine.
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby Anonymous20 » January 11th, 2005, 12:06 pm

yeah its crazy..
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the situation in Sudan is terrible.



greeks has been held as slaves by the assyrians (?) too, to bad no one talks about this..
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby blackmanofhonor » January 20th, 2005, 10:02 am

sad,sick,and shocking
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby 100 » January 21st, 2005, 3:46 pm

read the final call(muslim paper about it and get more info
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby Anonymous20 » August 16th, 2006, 9:30 pm

100 wrote:read the final call(muslim paper about it and get more info


Muslims are in denial of what the Arabs are doing to the African Dinka people in the Sudan. I have yet to hear any Muslim, Black American or Arab condem what is going on in the Sudan and that's a shame.
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Postby Common Sense » August 17th, 2006, 12:45 pm

US, Britain want UN to authorize troops for Darfur.
By Matthew Verrinder
August 2006

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Britain and the United States on Thursday introduced a U.N. Security Council resolution to send some 17,000 U.N. peacekeepers to the Darfur region of Sudan, despite opposition from the Khartoum government.

The resolution can be adopted without any consent from Sudan, U.S. Deputy Ambassador Jackie Sanders said. But in practice troops cannot be deployed until Khartoum agrees.

"I hope that when we negotiate this text, there will be clarity from the government of Sudan that such an operation, favored by the African Union and favored by the Security Council should take place," Britain's U.N. Ambassador Emyr Jones Parry told reporters.

The under-financed African Union is the only bulwark against violence in Darfur, where more than 2 million people are homeless after a campaign of ethnic cleansing.

The draft resolution asks U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan to work out a plan and timetable with the African Union for a transition and for sending in reinforcements no later than October 1.

The number of troops to be authorized in the resolution suggests 17,300. But this figure is not settled yet, and Jones Parry said he expected the number to be closer to 15,000.

Tens of thousands of people have died since fighting flared in early 2003, and 2.5 million people are living in squalid camps in Sudan's arid west or neighboring Chad.

In response to a rebel uprising, the Arab-dominated central government armed so-called Janjaweed militias, who conducted a campaign of murder, looting and rape. In recent months, in-fighting among the rebels have also resulted in similar atrocities against civilians.

HUMANITARIAN WORKERS ENDANGERED

Parts of the resolution are under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter, which allows troops a greater use of force. Sudan objects to this provision, viewing it as tantamount to an invasion or occupation.

"I understand Khartoum and the perception they have with Chapter 7," Jones Parry said. "Those perceptions are not soundly based."

He said the resolution was meant only to support a peace agreement in Darfur and help endangered humanitarian workers who have been under attack in recent weeks. Eight aid workers died in July, more than in the previous two years.

Some diplomats questioned whether Russia and China, who have veto power in the 15-nation Security Council, would support any measure disapproved by Khartoum.

Arab nations, who prefer the African Union stay in Darfur, are also allies of Khartoum and have rarely criticized its policies in Darfur.

Should U.N. troops go to Darfur, Jones Parry said U.N. peacekeepers in the field would number more than 100,000, the highest number ever in 18 missions.

The United Nations already has close to 10,000 troops in southern Sudan to monitor a peace agreement between Khartoum and the former southern rebels.

The draft resolution follows a letter on August 10 to the council by Annan on escalating violence in Darfur.

"While the government maintains its firm opposition (to U.N. troops), the situation on the ground is deteriorating, and the AU mission's ability to function for the remainder of 2006 is being jeopardized by a funding crisis," Annan wrote.
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Postby torontomanna » September 7th, 2006, 1:19 pm

WHY ARE BLACKS ALWAYS THE ONES BEING OPPRESSSED
BLACK PPL NEED TO STOP ALWAYS BEING THE CRY BABY IN THE PLAYGROUND AND FUCKIN FIGHT , STOP FUCKING CRYING AND BITCHING FUCKIN FIGHT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AFRICA IS OUR HOMELAND WHO THE FUCKIN FUCK R THOSE ARABS TO COME TO OUR HOMELAND AND OPPRESSS US. I WISH MALCOM X WAS STILL ALIVE ID MAKE HIM COME TO SUDAN WITH ME AND START A BLACK REBEL GROUP!!!!!!!.
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Postby torontomanna » September 7th, 2006, 1:25 pm

THESE FUCKIN ARABS WANNA CRY AND BITCH ABOUT WHAT GEORGE BUSH IS DOING TO THEM BUT THEY WANNA OPPRESS AND ENSLAVE OTHERS WHILE THEY COMPLAIN.

ITS LIKE COMPLAINING TO MS WILLIAMS THAT JOHNNY STOLE UR LUNCH WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND U HAVE LUCYS SANDWICH IN UR POCKET!!!!

MALCOLM X WAS STILL ALIVE BLACK PPL WOULD HAVE THE NERVE TO FIGHT BACK TO THERE INJUSTICES ALL OVER THE WORLD.

KILL THOSES FUCKIN ARABS THEY HAVE NO RIGHT IN AFRICA. ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE THERE TO ENSLAVE BLACK PPL FUCK EM.

AND GEORGE BUSH I AINT MAD AT U NO MORE KEEEP THOSE BOMBS COMING SON!!!!
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Postby blue eyed devil » September 8th, 2006, 4:09 am

I dont know if you know anything of Geogrpahy Toronto but the whole top half of Africa is Arabic...

I cant see Black revolutionaries getting rid of them..
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » September 8th, 2006, 5:09 am

Just watch Hotel Rwanda, and see why the world doesn't gives a rat's ass about what happens to black Africans.

Colonel Oliver: [explaining why the world will not intervene] You're black. You're not even a nigger. You're an African.
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Postby MiChuhSuh » September 8th, 2006, 9:40 am

No matter what America will lose.

I heard this one mosque talk about how America doesn't care and that's why we aren't taking much action.

Then I heard another group say that America is faking the situation there so we can use it as an excuse to get involved and spread influence
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby MiChuhSuh » September 8th, 2006, 9:42 am

Common Sense wrote:The situation in Sudan is horrible, and it doesn't seem like true Islamic behavior, at least from what I know about it. I'm not sure if the U.S. should go there. The U.S. has it's hands full already. Secondly, most of the world see the U.S. as a policing empire. Which is good in some countries and bad in other countries, but as you said going over there would be like "I knew the Americans hated the muslims".

I think Canada or France should go over there. Let them have the glory.


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Postby @1 » January 29th, 2008, 1:23 am

George Bush mentioned the atrocities in the Sudan must end in lastnights State of the Union address. Although I dont think that the president will do anything, thanks to this string we made George at least mention it. It took us almost 4 years though. Good job folks.
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Postby MiChuhSuh » January 29th, 2008, 1:30 am

alexalonso wrote:George Bush mentioned the atrocities in the Sudan must end in lastnights State of the Union address. Although I dont think that the president will do anything, thanks to this string we made George at least mention it. It took us almost 4 years though. Good job folks.


Hilary said she was the first to call Sudan a genocide but the first three were Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, and Sam Brownback, R-Kansas.
http://www.againsthillary.com/2008/01/2 ... -speeches/
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby thekinks1886 » May 27th, 2008, 5:37 am

Shortty wrote:I think america would look like hypocrites by going in there to free the "opressed" while at the same opressing minority groups in america...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... _candidate


if you try to make any relativist crap equation about living as a minority in America with those in Sudan, then you desever to be be shipped to Sudan for a year and find out a bit more, :roll:



Thats like saying living in the UK is like living under Stalin because of some of the intrusive powers of the state :roll:
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Postby thekinks1886 » May 27th, 2008, 5:38 am

MiChuhSuh wrote:No matter what America will lose.

I heard this one mosque talk about how America doesn't care and that's why we aren't taking much action.

Then I heard another group say that America is faking the situation there so we can use it as an excuse to get involved and spread influence



corretn my friend, damned if they do and damned if they don't- some people are so anti american they will become the friend of genocidists, racists and fascists
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby cliffard » December 3rd, 2008, 3:06 pm

sudan = no oil, no us/uk involvement. just that simple.
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby Sentenza » December 3rd, 2008, 8:54 pm

cliffard wrote:sudan = no oil, no us/uk involvement. just that simple.


They got oil. Its just that China is taking it right now.

China Invests Heavily In Sudan's Oil Industry

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Dec22.html
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby cliffard » December 4th, 2008, 12:46 pm

fuckin hell, my mistake, caught me out there...alright then how does this sound? no oil that we can get our hands on without more aggravation than its worth-no us/uk involvement.
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby MiChuhSuh » December 14th, 2008, 1:24 am

cliffard wrote:sudan = no oil, no us/uk involvement. just that simple.


Sentenza wrote:
cliffard wrote:sudan = no oil, no us/uk involvement. just that simple.


They got oil. Its just that China is taking it right now.

China Invests Heavily In Sudan's Oil Industry

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Dec22.html


cliffard wrote:fuckin hell, my mistake, caught me out there...alright then how does this sound? no oil that we can get our hands on without more aggravation than its worth-no us/uk involvement.



LOL that was a perfect example of what I posted about more than two years ago.

MiChuhSuh on Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:40 am
MiChuhSuh wrote:No matter what America will lose.

I heard this one mosque talk about how America doesn't care and that's why we aren't taking much action.

Then I heard another group say that America is faking the situation there so we can use it as an excuse to get involved and spread influence
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Re: Slavery of the Dinka people in the Sudan

Postby cliffard » December 14th, 2008, 3:53 pm

michuhsuh can you explain what you mean, i've lost you a bit there.....
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