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[thewestside]

Who are these people you keep talking about? Are you talking about my Johnnyred days? Yeah I agree, I pissed off alot of people back then. I created AlbaniaUnited to start a serious discussion on here. Thats around the time you came. Before that, it was a bunch of people who were totally ignorant talking. When you came I wanted to start fresh and actually debate.

It would have helped if you had been honest about your identity from the beginning instead of lying about it.

Wishful thinking? By saying sit back and we'll see? The FBI didnt overstate because they havent said anything yet. They said they are threatening to replace the Italians. A threat is usually something that will take place in the future. Until we get to the future. We both have to stop making out own movies of what will happen.

I'm happy to "sit back, wait, and see." Neither of us knows what surely will happen. But we can give educated guesses on what is most likely to happen. My guess is based on historical precedent, including the fact that the same predictions made about Albanians now have been made about others before. And, as of now, I see nothing that leads me to believe the Albanians will be any different.

See. Now you are just plain lying. You didnt hear about any of them before I told you.

And how would you know that? For the record, I mistook some of those names for others that I read in relation to the Rudaj gang. In any event, how is you knowing about some individual Albanian criminals any different than me knowing Messina Denaro strangled his girlfriend? Answer, it's not. It has little to do with how one rates a crime group in general.

I havent said anything about Albanian organized crime. I state that when the Albanian passport becomes free to the world. The Albanian mafia will maximise in the United States as well as in the rest of the world. I said it might surpass the Italians in America when it happens. Until it happens. The only thing I am saying it that it "might".

And Carmen Electra "might" show up at my door tomorrow. Here's hoping!

Same goes to you.

Please show me where I have ever made up my own figures like you did.

[CheGuevara]

It would have helped if you had been honest about your identity from the beginning instead of lying about it.

You have to get over the name thing. You are starting to talk as if you work with me. The point is the debate.

I'm happy to "sit back, wait, and see." Neither of us knows what surely will happen. But we can give educated guesses on what is most likely to happen. My guess is based on historical precedent, including the fact that the same predictions made about Albanians now have been made about others before. And, as of now, I see nothing that leads me to believe the Albanians will be any different.

Okay well I believe that when Albanians acquire their passports in 2013, the Albanian mafia in America will maximise and possibly surpass everyone except the Asians and Mexicans. My assumption is based on European history in the last 15 years.

And how would you know that? For the record, I mistook some of those names for others that I read in relation to the Rudaj gang. In any event, how is you knowing about some individual Albanian criminals any different than me knowing Messina Denaro strangled his girlfriend? Answer, it's not. It has little to do with how one rates a crime group in general.

Because it affects your judgement. You know alot more about Italian OC then me. And I have come to you for knowledge on them at times when I did not know myself. But you cannot match my knowledge on Albanian OC. Just like you know about Messina, I know about Plaurent Dervishaj who fled Interpol for America. This is why instead of saying I am hyping. Try to educate yourself on Albanian OC as much as I am educated in it.

And Carmen Electra "might" show up at my door tomorrow. Here's hoping!

Thats pretty much not going to happen. The Albanian mafia expanding to surpass the Italians in America could happen.

Please show me where I have ever made up my own figures like you did.

I am talking about your assumptions on Italians in Times Square and your assumptions on who is going to surpass or stay on top. If you want me to stop assuming. You better do the same my Dannish friend.

[thewestside]

Because it affects your judgement. You know alot more about Italian OC then me. And I have come to you for knowledge on them at times when I did not know myself. But you cannot match my knowledge on Albanian OC. Just like you know about Messina, I know about Plaurent Dervishaj who fled Interpol for America. This is why instead of saying I am hyping. Try to educate yourself on Albanian OC as much as I am educated in it.

I can't match your knowledge of many specifics about Albanian OC. The general state of Albanian OC in Europe, in the U.S., and around the world is another matter. And I dare say you only know the specifics of Albanian OC that you do because you have a personal interest in it. It therefore takes up the vast amount of your present research. When you do extensive research into various crime groups around the world for 15 years, then get back to me.

[CheGuevara]

I can't match your knowledge of many specifics about Albanian OC. The general state of Albanian OC in Europe, in the U.S., and around the world is another matter. And I dare say you only know the specifics of Albanian OC that you do because you have a personal interest in it. It therefore takes up the vast amount of your present research. When you do extensive research into various crime groups around the world for 15 years, then get back to me.

I know more about specifics? Crime figures and areas where they operate in are not specifics to me. That is knowledge. Specifics would be like quoting what Dedaj and Rudaj said about Italians in Jimbo's Bar in Astoria. No offense but you know what gets generalized about them. You can see the mountain but havent come close enough to see the trees and rocks on it. If you come closer, you will see that the Albanian mafia is much bigger then you know it to be. I admit, I am not on your level when it comes to Italian OC but you should admit that my knowledge of the Albanian mafia exceeds yours in the same way.