One thing I don't understand (Manson related)

[PolakoMafia]

is why America and everyone seems to hate Manson as much and calls him a killer, and often everytime you say anything positive about him people wonder why you support a killer or simply tell you he is a killer. He himself in various interviews says he never had a childhood and has been in and out of jails all his life and his family abandoned him when he was young. I mean he grew up in reform schools. But those same people would defend blacks or hispanics form L.A slums like Compton and don't call the youth of Compton killers despite virtually all of them being in gangs and having killed, or simply say they are just disinfranchised kids looking to belong, their family not being for them, them being poor, or make various excuses and all those excuses could be said the same for Manson if not more so. Why is this? Heck in a class I had this guy wrote a letter to ane ditor of a paper and when the teacher used his example asking what people thought of it, some thought he was racist simply comparing the rioting that occured here and hooliganism to Brooklyn, or SOuth Central slums, and he didnt even mention black people or anything but people already are so race sensitive thats what they immediately thought of. SO its ok to kill if ur a minority but if your Manson you can't?

[PolakoMafia]

http://www.serialkillercalendar.com/bri ... onbio.html

[razbojnik]

I love him, he's fucking helarious. He reminds me of Miki Li.

[PolakoMafia]

He is actually pretty intelligent, like in this interview he mentions the year 1776 and that is obviously the year of the declaration of independence, he shows these things throught his interviews that most people don't remember off the top of their heads. He is actually pretty intellectual:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIfGj_55FHI

"I had all that...The Dena Martins and the Nancy Senatras...WIll you do it to me I hear you do it good honey...iIll you come up to my pad later tonight?"
lol

"Drugs...Icd...I dont consider it a drug - I dont consider powde a drug. Those are more or less religiously significant mind expanding aparatus that come from the intelligence of the universe."

here is a really good interview when he was still on death row:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nggE3jrIbj4

[PolakoMafia]

"If you're outside and livea life on the outside the mind that you live in - the thought that you live in is a family. The ehad of that family is Nixon. He's your father...He doesn't see the bottom of the world. The penetentary is in the background - these are all think chambers."

"Most of the people here are just your reflecions - They weren't born rebelling. They had to be put on somebody. SOmebody created them. The outside world programs world and the inside world deprograms them into wisdom and understanding."

"Aren't we all born to die?"

[PolakoMafia]

Manson discusses love in this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCb2PrQa ... re=related

He almost spits his coffee after the interviewer says he claimed he needed love.

[PolakoMafia]

I think he tried to unsuccesfully destroy celebritism in America. Look at how young girls worship celebrities and how they are treated above regular people like kings literally and can get away with almost anything in court. Manson tried to destroy that.

[PolakoMafia]

here he is crying at the beginning people commenting say he was and/or looks very sedated or drugged:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOX4KSI0 ... re=related

[PolakoMafia]

"Not only has the heinous nature of Manson's murders made his chances of ever leaving prison very slim, but his behavior behind bars has made it impossible. According to Kay, Manson has committed 13 serious violations since his 1992 parole hearing. Kay also has a psychiatric report that says Manson is a sociopath and a serious threat to society. Manson collected his 13 violations by threatening to murder a peace officer, threatening staff members, illegally possessing a stabbing instrument and narcotics, and assaulting a staff member. Through the years, he has also been known to spit, hit and pour hot coffee on prison guards."
http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts ... 92498.html

[Azure9920]

He is actually pretty intelligent

That's an understatement. Manson is VERY intelligent, when he sticks to speaking about things that aren't completely off the wall.

[PolakoMafia]

he's a con. he's all institution. all he knows is prison. he comes from a structured society that you could probably never fathom in several hundred years of your worst nightmares. he comes from a place where cruelty and debasement and disregard of humanity is the norm, day by day. nowhere on earth will you find more cunning BS.

[PolakoMafia]

this is one of the funniest interviews of his:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmnHfh4w ... re=related

"The Manson family was a music group. The music groups I had was called the family jams, and all the girls sang in the music group and the guys played in the music group. It has nothing to do with a cult."

"I am my mother."

[PolakoMafia]

The guy is still a fighter:
http://www.mansondirect.com/updates.html

"Update January 18, 2006
MansonDirect has received indications that Charlie is close to release from SHU. This is not confirmed by Manson himself however. Recent cards and letters including those received here have dealt with various topics, but Charlie hasn't speculated on his return to PHU at this point.

UPDATE August 25, 2005
MansonDirect has learned the facts behind the most recent placement of Charlie into the SHU ('the hole'). According to the written incident report, form CDC 115, on June 20, 2005 Manson was leaving his cell on his way to the shower. A guard delivering mail told Manson to stop and remain in the dayroom, so the guard could enter Manson's cell to search it for contraband. According to the guard's allegations, Manson said "The hell you are" and at that point stopped on the stairs, which the guard was about to walk up to reach Manson's cell. Supposedly, Manson took a swing at the guard. The guard set off his personal alarm to summon help, and tried to grab Manson's arm in order to place it behind his back so he could put hand cuffs on Manson. As the guard held Manson's arm, Charlie "lost his balance" according to the guard, and fell against the wall striking his head. At this point Manson was on the concrete floor and two other guards arrived on the scene, and together all three guards "held Manson down" and handcuffed his hands behind his back. Manson was experiencing pain in his head and his chest area at that point, so he was taken to the hospital for observation. No specific treatment was required at the hospital. Manson was released the same day, and was then placed directly into the SHU."

imagine Manson being in Corocal the scene of the gladiator schools and from that movie "Felon" and not giving a f@k and still hitting and attacking those guards like that black guy whoa ssaulted inmates and set up the fights shown in that movie everyone was scared of, Manson probably clocked him a couple of times. No one was able to force Manson into those fights or to do shet.

[PolakoMafia]

For instance most people on this site or at least in the prison subsection claim the reason so much percentage of the prison population is black isnt self imposed but the society's fault. WHy dont journalists even liberal oens and people on this site say this about Manson? For example he never had a family and was in jail since he was 9 so how is he any more privelaged than blacks? How is OJ anymore innocent than him especially sicne it was proven he was a criminal recently as well? I just dont get blacks logic at all. Or how is Tookie any less of a serial killer from Manson or any less of a criminal? In Mansons interviews they keep trying to put the balme on him that he kept getting himself in jail yet you never hear the media doing this to blacks why?

[Turknose]

Polako, you as an proud white man has absolutely nothing to do with an psycho-killer. I dont care if the people of other colours on this board defend their own killers, we should not follow them. We have always been on top of this world and will always be, take pride in that instead of that roach who accidently have the same skincolour as we. Dont be an follower.

[Azure9920]

he's a con. he's all institution. all he knows is prison. he comes from a structured society that you could probably never fathom in several hundred years of your worst nightmares. he comes from a place where cruelty and debasement and disregard of humanity is the norm, day by day. nowhere on earth will you find more cunning BS.

LOL. You sir are hilarious.

[razbojnik]

he's a con. he's all institution. all he knows is prison. he comes from a structured society that you could probably never fathom in several hundred years of your worst nightmares. he comes from a place where cruelty and debasement and disregard of humanity is the norm, day by day. nowhere on earth will you find more cunning BS.

LOL. You sir are hilarious.

My sentiments exactly.

[doobeez]

[quote="PolakoMafia"]He is actually pretty intelligent




You're correct.

Dudes a genious. In fact, I believe I read where his IQ was above 150.