Georgia gangs (Decatur area)

[FoEvaFlamin]

Valentine Blood
Eastside Crip

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Eastside Crip

I have the the East tat from years ago when I rode with a few. Back in 1990. Later.

[FoEvaFlamin]

Eastside Crip

I have the the East tat from years ago when I rode with a few. Back in 1990. Later.

YOU RAN with THE EASTSIDE CRIPS IN the DEC.? IF SO ARE THEY STILL ACTIVE? I NOTICE THEY TAGGED UP the EASTSIDE WITH THAT. AND IT SEEMS LIKE the SWATS ARE DOMINATED BY BLOODS. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE BLOODS IN the SWATS AREA?

[stretch]

You know I have no clue to be honest. I moved to Texas in 96, got my gang influences out of me and moved back to GA a year later. I haven't followed up too much on gangs and activity so I can't answer.

BTW, even though I'm not G-d up anymore, I still bump old sheet, NWA, CMW, Above the Law, and all them, lolol. Later.

[DSGB]

The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution

November 4, 1993


Juvenile court sheds light on problems outside

Article Text:

Two 12-year-old boys and one 14-year-old boy stood before a juvenile court judge charged with the armed robbery of a 30-year-old man. They used a toy gun.

"I held the gun . . . I said, `Give it up,' " confessed the 14-year-old when asked about his role in the crime.

The first 12-year-old, his attention divided between the judge and various courtroom sights, then admitted his role.

"I patted his pockets and handed the money to [his accomplice]," he mumbled.

Judge Madeline Griffin, holding up two toy guns tied together with a property room tag, paused glaring at the boys.

"Do you understand what you were doing?" fired Griffin. "That man could have had a gun, pulled it out and killed all three of you."

Despite her obvious agitation, Griffin says cases like these are by no means unique. A day in her court will turn up this and much more.

At 9 a.m. the shuffle of solicitors, public defenders, probation officers and alleged juvenile criminals begins. Children, brought up in hand-cuffs, are led to small holding cells decorated with penciled drawings of swastikas and various grafitti.

Court deputy Rick Bowland says that before the handcuffing of youths on their way from detention to court was made policy two weeks ago, he and one other officer used to average three "tussles" a week with juveniles. He says the use of handcuffs, now, symbolizes the growing trend.

"That's where one threw a security officer through the wall." said Bowland pointing to holes and large cracks in the hallway walls of the court. "They're out of control - a lot of it is gang-related, a lot of it is family values they're not getting."

Earlier that morning, the street gang influence was on full display as a 16-year-old boy was sentenced for "using fighting words" against his mother. Since his last appearance in court in early September, the boy had been marked absent from school at least seven times.

Despite his current charge, everyone present seemed more concerned about his relationship with a gang called the "Folks" in Decatur.

The boy, barraged with both directives and advice about his gang activity when the judge left the courtroom for a short recess, defended the group, saying that they didn't go around hurting people - unless others messed with them first.

"It's just like you're in a big family," argued the boy. "Someone goes and messes with your brother, you're going to go after him."

With a look of exasperation, public defender Bess Walthour pointed to the boy's mother seated nearby.

"That's your family right there," she said. "I think you're confused."

The solicitor, requesting that the boy be placed in the strictest probation program offered, had to settle for a typical probation program because no openings were available in the stricter program. Until one comes open, however, Griffin placed a 5 p.m. curfew on the boy at his probation officer's request.

"This is hard," said the mother when asked if she had anything to say, "because everyone is fighting tooth and nail, and breaking their back for this child, but he isn't doing anything."

Griffin's next case involved the sentencing of a boy who earlier pleaded guilty to a two-month crime spree which included auto theft, theft-by-taking, shoplifting, theft-by-receiving, and giving a false name.

The boy hasn't seen his 15th birthday.

"How did you get the Celebrity?" asked the judge about the stolen car.

"I hot-wired it," the youth responded.

"Why were you stealing razor blades and batteries from a convenience store?" the judge asked.

"To sell," answered the boy, as the solicitor informed the court that he had been saving up for a "Starter" sports jacket.

Griffin ordered the boy committed to the state for two years, which means he'll participate in various rehabilitation programs. The solicitor also suggested that because the boy stole to save money, he should be ordered to get a job. He was also ordered to pay back $80 to each of his three victims as restitution for his crimes against them.

Little more than a smirk shown on the 14-year-old delinquent's face as he left the courtroom.

"In the month I've been here," said court deputy Bowling, "I've only seen one parent say, `Sit-up and pay attention, I didn't teach you that way.' "

It's no secret how these kids get this way, says child advocate attorney Dorothy Murphy.

"More and more of the kids in the foster care system on my caseload are being charged with delinquent offenses - there's no question about it," said child advocate attorney Dorothy Murphy. "And more serious, the magnitude of the offenses has increased."

Griffin sees a correlation, as well. Each week parents are also brought before her court for neglecting and abusing their children.

Her first case the previous day was a hearing to determine whether five children were neglected by their parents. The mother had been caught asleep while the children roamed around their apartment pool. Her apartment was also found to be extremely unsanitary, according to a caseworker.

The parents pleaded guilty and the children were ordered to stay in foster care while the parents cleaned up their act. The only other relative willing or able to take the children would take only the youngest. She was disqualified however, because she lived with a convicted felon. The kids remain in three separate foster homes.

At the close of court, two of the boys earlier found guilty for armed robbery with a toy gun remained in a holding cell. The mother of the 12-and 14-year-old brothers hadn't picked them up after their arrest, nor did she bother to show up for their trial.

This is one of a continuing series of articles on the problem of youth crime in DeKalb County.

[FoEvaFlamin]

GOOD INFO

[Interested]

Very good info

[jeff]

some Nine Trey bloods graffiti in Decatur

[Vincetheprince]

Are the ATL bloods and crips real, I doubt it because those are Cali gangs

[MMRbkaRudog]

Are the ATL bloods and crips real, I doubt it because those are Cali gangs

Sounds like some are fake, but maybe the got some real 1's. They got some real Nortenos & I heard some real Surenos too, so I don't doubt there could be real c's & b's there. I can't remember hearing about real c's & b's being there, but I'm sure a lot of stuff was mentioned on the board already.

[Vincetheprince]

Well the only way they'd be legit is if they branched out from LA(Surenos,bloods, crips, and nortenos)

[MMRbkaRudog]

Well the only way they'd be legit is if they branched out from LA(Surenos,bloods, crips, and nortenos)

You would only know if Nortenos were legit, if they branched from LA? That don't make much sense.

[Vincetheprince]

I mean that if a crip or blood or sureno moved to another state(out of cali) and starts a blood/crip/sureno set then it would/should be considered legit, for example some kid out in idaho can't start a blood/crip/sureno set and it be considered a real/legit blood/crip/sureno gang. How does that not make sense, and I messed up on the Norteno thing

[Azure9920]

For 9 Trey to be legit it'd have to be branched out with connects to NYC, not LA. You'll never find a 9Trey who got put on through Cali lool

[MMRbkaRudog]

I mean that if a crip or blood or sureno moved to another state(out of cali) and starts a blood/crip/sureno set then it would/should be considered legit, for example some kid out in idaho can't start a blood/crip/sureno set and it be considered a real/legit blood/crip/sureno gang. How does that not make sense, and I messed up on the Norteno thing

Anybody can start a legit set, as long as it's legit. If some kid in Idaho has the right to start a legit set, then the kid can. I q'd the Norteno thing.

[Vincetheprince]

I messed up on that, for an out-of-cali Norteno gang it would have to branch out from Nort Cali, and when I say it wouldn't be a legit blood/crip set if it didn't branch out from Sur Cali I mean ask a Blood or crip if they consider it real and they'll say "HELL NO", "they flase' flaggin'", "they're marks", does that make sense?

[MMRbkaRudog]

I messed up on that, for an out-of-cali Norteno gang it would have to branch out from Nort Cali, and when I say it wouldn't be a legit blood/crip set if it didn't branch out from Sur Cali I mean ask a Blood or crip if they consider it real and they'll say "HELL NO", "they flase' flaggin'", "they're marks", does that make sense?

I mean they got to at least have ties. There's real c's & b's out of S. Cal, so of course so can be made from 1's outside. An out of state Norteno gang most likely will come out of Norte Califas, but I heard of real Nortenos out of state starting 1's somewhere else too.

[Vincetheprince]

thats what I was trying to say so your right

[DICERxOVSBAxBMTLs]

Are the ATL bloods and crips real, I doubt it because those are Cali gangs

THEY GOT IxE13 N WSV=WEST SIDE VERDUGO/SAN BERDO IN ATL I SEEN THERE GANG REPORT ON THE WEB...N THESES Bs N Cs WHO CLAIM POEPLE OR FOLK ARE SOME FAKES IN MY BOOK, SHIT EVEN Bs N Cs IN NY CUT THAT SHIT OUT.

[Vincetheprince]

i feel you man, but i'm gonna tell you because you asked about esr, well they've been active all summer homie i was kickin it with them foos 3 days/nights straight, craziest 3 days of my life so my mom took me to arcadia out by pasadena and monrovia lol where theres been action as well, but ya east side is heatin' up quick status if you know what i'm sayin

[Br112way]

My set br112way gangster crips out here got ties to the homies in south central and i know some inglewood family niggas that moved out here from cali that put hella niggas down.

[freegbizzle]

they ride the 5 9tre outta new york

[dee18stwsg]

WESTSIDE 18TH ST GANG TRACE THE ROOTS WE A REAL GANG IN GWINNETT CO. AND DEKALB CO... BRANCHED OUT TO MANY STATES FAKE ASS SLOBS AND CRABS WATCH MOVIES AND THE FEEL INSPIRED AND WANA BANG!!!HAHAAHAHAHAHHA.... THATS FUNNY!!!
ONLY THE HISPANIC GANGS DO IT REAL BIG OUT HERE WE JUST DNT GIVE A FUCK!!!!

[DICERxOVSBAxBMTLs]

WESTSIDE 18TH ST GANG TRACE THE ROOTS WE A REAL GANG IN GWINNETT CO. AND DEKALB CO... BRANCHED OUT TO MANY STATES FAKE ASS SLOBS AND CRABS WATCH MOVIES AND THE FEEL INSPIRED AND WANA BANG!!!HAHAAHAHAHAHHA.... THATS FUNNY!!!
ONLY THE HISPANIC GANGS DO IT REAL BIG OUT HERE WE JUST DNT GIVE A fu--!!!!

SO WHAT MAKES THEM FAKE AND YOUR VARRIO NOT?...YOUR JUST COPYING WHAT CALIFORNIA STARTED JUST LIKE THESE OTHER FAKE OUTA STATE BANGERS WITH NO CONNECTION TO SOUTHERN CALI.

[scrillz404]

mayne none of yall niggaz real bruh let me jus say there are lil to no gangs on the E/s u got 9tek 60z 20z nd GD'z but datz it bruh its all bout wat hood u claim nd wat click u bang bruh Eastside the Fuck up the Dec 2 the Mount EastBound