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Postby Dobre » July 8th, 2009, 8:27 pm

Just take a look at the Netherlands.

GDP (PPP) 2008 estimate
- Total $675.375 billion
- Per capita $40,431 (9th)
GDP (nominal) 2008 estimate
- Total $868.940 billion (15)
- Per capita $52,019 (10th)

A country of 16.5 million people is the 15th richest country in the world overall with the 10th largest GDP per capita in the world.

GDP per capita means the average person makes this amount of money each year.

52,000 dollars by the nominal estimate, that's more than Canada or the US.

Canada is 45,000, the US is 46,000. The only countries on the European mainland to surpass that are Luxembourg, Switzerland, Sweden, Ireland, Norway and Denmark(excluding Iceland).

Yet those countries are peaceful and lack crime.

The Netherlands is a hub for organized crime, prostitution and drugs stretching with groups invading from Asia to South America and beyond.

The Netherlands has nothing to offer in terms of tourism such as beautiful sights, I mean Macedonia being a friggin savanna with valleys, rolling hills and thick mixed forests and shrubland has more to offer in terms of natural beauty yet tourism is rare overall compared to Amsterdam.

Why? Drugs and prostitutes are legal in the Netherlands. When you sit in a cafe in the Netherlands and order a coffee, they bring you a complimentary joint with it.

Some hard drugs are legal, yet it's flooded with illicit drugs such as cocaine and heroin which passes through where I'm at for the most part, 115 tons of heroin seized in 2007 alone in the Balkans, and the minimum estimate that passes through for Western --- not Northern Europe is at least 100 tons, 15 which is left here for the local addicts and 7-8 tons are always stored for constant supply in Western Macedonia. In Bulgaria, the daily heroin market is worth 40-70 million dollars on average.

In Belgium, 75 percent of prostitutes are Bulgarian. 170,000 women and children as trafficked through Macedonia for sex slavery each year, most of them coming from Ukraine, Moldova and Bulgaria.

There are brothels on every street corner in Amsterdam with whores flashing naked giving sex shows on wide open glass for everyone passing by to see and prostitutes have law enforced but free checkups for sexual diseases weekly.

The Netherlands has nothing to offer yet it's booming. It's richer than most African countries combined --- and the Dutch firms are top at exploiting Africa's diamond mines and doing deals with the African diamond cartels.

The Netherlands is more of a sattilite state of Germany because Germany has pretty much illigal prostitution and drugs, yet they border.

Germany is under constant US oppression ever since World War 2. During and before World War 2, Nazi Germany was the most advanced and most powerful nation on Earth. If WW2 went on for another 20 days, Germany would have won the war. That was the theory. They invented the jet engine, remote controlled robots, rockets, the atom bomb amongst tons of other things.

US military bases in Germany, all kinds of pacts and agreements that say you can't do things freely without our permission. Why? The Germans will fuck everyone up.

I respect Adolf Hitler for having guts and standing up for his own people, leaders like this are rare nowadays, most of them are crooks who exploit their people after they win giving false promises. His only mistake was Operation Barbarossa. If anything he should have made the Soviet Union fight America before trying anything direct. You just don't invade the Russians, they're fucking crazy.

I can't forgive him for killing innocent.

So my analisys is this.

100 tons of foreign(Afghanistan, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran) heroin passes through Macedonia each year, this being the minimum estimate.

Not to mention they've started planting opium poppies around my town, it's normal.

I eat friggin opium seeds with bread.

On a side note, drinking 7 red bulls is like taking a pill of ecstasy.

Now think of it this way. Everyone smokes, everyone drinks.

There are tons of heroin addicts, but heroin is locally cheap.

Marijuana is even cheaper, 100 bucks for 50 grams. Albania provides 3 percent of the world's marijuana, 3 percent may not be much because the number is small but think about it.

It just isn't a norm as much as it is in Canada or the states to smoke weed.

If it becomes a norm, I guarentee you there will be as many people smoking marijuana on a regular basis as there is at anytime in Macedonian hospitals --- 100,000 minimum.

Then it flourishes. Being a major transit country on a global scale for drugs and human trafficking and the Netherlands being a DESTINATION COUNTRY, the local economy would boom. The budget would not even quadrouple, but it would go a 100x in a two year period.

Best of all is no one can touch us, everyone supports this. The CIA actually funds drug and organized crime operations in the Balkans, especially Macedonia.

It's a black budget, a black operation. It funds something much bigger. The addicts go through a cycle, they lose their family and friends, their warmth, they start sleeping in basements and alleyways, and they disappear.

They're the perfect human test subject, a guinea pig. All types of sick Nazi like experimination could be done with them --- from genetic and biological manipulation to cloning and transmutation.

Who cares about that fucker, he's probably dead by now od'd. He was never my son.

GDP (PPP) 2008 estimate
- Total $18.818 billion
- Per capita $9,157
GDP (nominal) 2008 estimate
- Total $9.569 billion
- Per capita $4,656

Population - 2.1 million

^ That's Macedonia's current economy. If they legalize drugs and prostitution by 2010 and visa free travel is approved for European Union, this will happen by 2015.

GDP (PPP) 2015 estimate
- Total $62.941 billion
- Per capita $32,758
GDP (nominal) 2015 estimate
- Total $47.852 billion
- Per capita $24,842

Population - 2.5 million

And then

GDP (PPP) 2020 estimate
- Total $92.910 billion
- Per capita $41,758
GDP (nominal) 2020 estimate
- Total $76.653 billion
- Per capita $36,842

Population - 3 million

And then

GDP (PPP) 2025 estimate
- Total $117.314 billion
- Per capita $58,955
GDP (nominal) 2025 estimate
- Total $94.721 billion
- Per capita $43,641

Population - 3.5 million

GDP (PPP) 2030 estimate
- Total $157.624 billion
- Per capita $73,925
GDP (nominal) 2030 estimate
- Total $121.421 billion
- Per capita $61,249

Population - 4.5 million

Oh man...

That's talking about small countries.

If they legalized drugs and prostitution in the USA...

The population would jump to 350 million by 2025 and the GDP would jump to 20 trillion dollars.

With Canada, population 45 million and GDP 3 trillion.

How else would agree with me on this???
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Postby DutchGangster69 » July 8th, 2009, 8:56 pm

I agree drugs should be legal but only soft drugs...maybe ecstasy..cocaine and heroin is too destructive...I also agree prostition should be legalized and carefully monitored ...look what those greasy Albanians are doing to girls globally..There stealing them drugging them up and raping them, and of course Johnny is proud of this.
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Postby DutchGangster69 » July 8th, 2009, 8:59 pm

Don't forget Holland has many museums, good shopping, and big beaches plus old architiecture, but your right the landscape is flat farmland with many canals and shallow lakes which are good for nothing except boating. There are also some large beaches and good nightclubs.
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Postby CheGuevara » July 8th, 2009, 9:01 pm

DutchGangster69 wrote:I agree drugs should be legal but only soft drugs...maybe ecstasy..cocaine and heroin is too destructive...I also agree prostition should be legalized and carefully monitored ...look what those greasy Albanians are doing to girls globally..There stealing them drugging them up and raping them, and of course Johnny is proud of this.


im not proud of this at all. and its rare that the drugging and kidnapping things goes on. most of these so called "innocent" girls are prostitutes in their home countries before being taken to italy or germany or britain or the netherlands. you've watched taken one too many times little kid.

drugs should not be legal at all. the government should stop giving in to this liberal hippy nonsense and exterminate the drug dealers on site. anyone caught with over one kilo of cocaine or heroin should be shot on sight by the cops. any pimps sould be killed as well whether they be albanian, russian, italian, dutch or any other person willing to do that sort of thing.
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Postby DutchGangster69 » July 8th, 2009, 9:06 pm

You don't hear many people in Canada or the states saying lets go to Macedonia this summer..lol...its usually the carribean, bahamas, mexico or a cruise.
Holland just happens to be near the big cities of London Paris, Berlin and so on, so alot of tourists stop by or shortly visit the Netherlands.
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Postby DutchGangster69 » July 8th, 2009, 9:13 pm

I am sure if Macedonia was located in western or central europe they would be much wealthier being in the heart of business, trade, and finance...just to let you know my friend spent 500 on a macedonian stripper.
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Postby DutchGangster69 » July 8th, 2009, 9:15 pm

im not proud of this at all. and its rare that the drugging and kidnapping things goes on. most of these so called "innocent" girls are prostitutes in their home countries before being taken to italy or germany or britain or the netherlands. you've watched taken one too many times little kid.

drugs should not be legal at all. the government should stop giving in to this liberal hippy nonsense and exterminate the drug dealers on site. anyone caught with over one kilo of cocaine or heroin should be shot on sight by the cops. any pimps sould be killed as well whether they be albanian, russian, italian, dutch or any other person willing to do that sort of thing.CheGuevara
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If thats your political view you should move to Iran or Saudi Arabia
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Postby CheGuevara » July 8th, 2009, 9:20 pm

DutchGangster69 wrote:If thats your political view you should move to Iran or Saudi Arabia


no i'm happy here in canada :)

DutchGangster69 wrote:just to let you know my friend spent 500 on a macedonian stripper.


lol!!! priceless.
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Postby DutchGangster69 » July 8th, 2009, 9:44 pm

Wow there really growing opium and cocaine in Macedonia...thats kinda fucked up
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Postby CheGuevara » July 9th, 2009, 12:24 am

DutchGangster69 wrote:Wow there really growing opium and cocaine in Macedonia...thats kinda #%@& up


albanian criminals have attempted to grow cocaine in albania for about a decade or so now. albanian criminals in kosova as well as in macedonia have tried to do the same. so far, according to saviano, a crime expert from italy, the albanians only have the ability to grow enough for local consumption. according to him, only in 19 years will the albanian traffickers be able to grow enough to supply on a worldwide scale.
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Postby thewestside » July 9th, 2009, 1:12 am

CheGuevara wrote:according to him, only in 19 years will the albanian traffickers be able to grow enough to supply on a worldwide scale.


That's an interesting prediction on Saviano's part but unlikely to come true. For centuries up to now, there are only three countries capable of producing enough cocaine to supply the world - Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia. And they are all next to each other in the northern region of South America.
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Postby CheGuevara » July 9th, 2009, 2:13 pm

thewestside wrote:That's an interesting prediction on Saviano's part but unlikely to come true. For centuries up to now, there are only three countries capable of producing enough cocaine to supply the world - Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia. And they are all next to each other in the northern region of South America.


shut the fuck up you idiot. if saviano was claiming the italians were going to grow it. you would be like. WOW, GOLLY GEE! THE ITALIANS HAVE SHOWN SUCH A HUGE AMBITION IN ORGANIZED CRIME. IT REALLY SETS THEM APART FROM OTHERS, YUPPERS, THIS IS WHY I SUCK ITALIAN COCK ALL DAY!

have any traffickers taken scientists and tried to alter coca to grow in different conditions? nope. so how the fvck do you know if it will or won't work. wow, anything to downsize anybody but italians ej?
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Postby Azure9920 » July 9th, 2009, 2:52 pm

thewestside wrote:That's an interesting prediction on Saviano's part but unlikely to come true. For centuries up to now, there are only three countries capable of producing enough cocaine to supply the world - Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia. And they are all next to each other in the northern region of South America.


The fact that leading botanists have been attempting to do so for centuries has no meaning whatsoever...they weren't Albanian.
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Postby Azure9920 » July 9th, 2009, 2:52 pm

Dobre wrote:Some hard drugs are legal


Like what?
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Postby Dobre » July 9th, 2009, 5:15 pm

DutchGangster69 wrote:Don't forget Holland has many museums, good shopping, and big beaches plus old architiecture, but your right the landscape is flat farmland with many canals and shallow lakes which are good for nothing except boating. There are also some large beaches and good nightclubs.


Beaches...on the North Atlantic? lol
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Postby Dobre » July 9th, 2009, 5:16 pm

Azure9920 wrote:
Dobre wrote:Some hard drugs are legal


Like what?


To be honest I never knew ecstasy was a soft drug.
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Postby Dobre » July 9th, 2009, 5:34 pm

CheGuevara wrote:
DutchGangster69 wrote:I agree drugs should be legal but only soft drugs...maybe ecstasy..cocaine and heroin is too destructive...I also agree prostition should be legalized and carefully monitored ...look what those greasy Albanians are doing to girls globally..There stealing them drugging them up and raping them, and of course Johnny is proud of this.


im not proud of this at all. and its rare that the drugging and kidnapping things goes on. most of these so called "innocent" girls are prostitutes in their home countries before being taken to italy or germany or britain or the netherlands. you've watched taken one too many times little kid.

drugs should not be legal at all. the government should stop giving in to this liberal hippy nonsense and exterminate the drug dealers on site. anyone caught with over one kilo of cocaine or heroin should be shot on sight by the cops. any pimps sould be killed as well whether they be albanian, russian, italian, dutch or any other person willing to do that sort of thing.


Yeah ok whatever, I love your sympathy for crime victims, it was only so close back that you said I want to see Macedonian babies killed and when I posted the picture of you, you went crying to pappa and he figured OH FUCK BLOOD FEUD and locked you up inside your room...but took your computer. So you started banging on your door crying your ass off OMFG AHHHH SHQIPTERISE SOME WHTIE STUFF ON ME FACE FROM ALEX RUDAJ'S PENIS OMFG WAAAAAAAHHH

It's true what you said about these innocent girls though, they do start out as whores, but not as prostitutes. Once the whole city finds out, it's safe to go film porn and have a pimp and it's the pimps who approach the girls, not the girls approaching the pimps.

There are girls who only get calls for sex, and they're girls, not friggin escort agencies. It's not like hey how are you doing, you good? That's good, bye.

It's do you wanna fuck, I have 15 people here who are willing to pay you 1,000(25 bucks) MKD each to fuck you, take it or leave it. Right now.
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Postby Dobre » July 9th, 2009, 5:39 pm

DutchGangster69 wrote:You don't hear many people in Canada or the states saying lets go to Macedonia this summer..lol...its usually the carribean, bahamas, mexico or a cruise.
Holland just happens to be near the big cities of London Paris, Berlin and so on, so alot of tourists stop by or shortly visit the Netherlands.


I know lol..

People here actually go to the Carribean, the Bahamas and Hawaii as well.

My brother's best friend here was around Central America because he works on a cruise ship.

Macedonia - Timeless. xDD

Of course. I hate how everyone looks at you though. They don't look with much enthusiasm, these fat old hairy men looking like mobsters looking at you suspiciously like let's get this guy drunk, rob him and kill him.

You can ignore them like no one is looking at you and you'll get less stares walking through a crowded area, but if you start to panic and look back, you're looking for trouble.

As they do in Venezuela, for a dirty look they'll kill you.

Same here. If I find you looking at me like I was born aborted, I'll rip your fucking head off.
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Postby CheGuevara » July 9th, 2009, 6:53 pm

Azure9920 wrote:The fact that leading botanists have been attempting to do so for centuries has no meaning whatsoever...they weren't Albanian.


they obviously weren't smart enough then because albanian traffickers have already sealed the deal. it's only a matter how mass producing it now. so keep coming in the middle of conversations like a little pussy and leaving your half opened lame comments in bitch. then go copy and paste while you're debating.
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Postby DutchGangster69 » July 9th, 2009, 6:58 pm

Heres a Dutch Beach

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Postby Azure9920 » July 10th, 2009, 11:33 am

CheGuevara wrote:they obviously weren't smart enough


Obviously not. :roll:

because albanian traffickers have already sealed the deal.


Not even the most optimistic...sorry, I mean only source, states that they're a good dozen years away, at least. I think it was actually a figure of 20 years.

so keep coming in the middle of conversations like a little pussy


Awww, is the little Albanian boy getting angry?

then go copy and paste while you're debating.


Only you can deride someone for using facts. I swear, it's like a one man idiot circus.
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Postby Azure9920 » July 10th, 2009, 12:33 pm

Dobre wrote:To be honest I never knew ecstasy was a soft drug.


Some people consider synthetics like MDMA and LSD to be hard drugs, but only because they're synthetic. In terms of actual risk of physical dependency or physical danger, ecstasy ranks very close to weed, as does LSD.

The lethal dose of MDMA is something like 250 mg per kilo in humans. Assuming that the average E pill has...maybe 100, 150 mg of MDMA in it, and the absorption rate orally is probably under 50%.

So, you do the math.
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Postby CheGuevara » July 10th, 2009, 12:34 pm

Azure9920 wrote:Not even the most optimistic...sorry, I mean only source, states that they're a good dozen years away, at least. I think it was actually a figure of 20 years.


it was 20 years stupid. but saviano as well as other people said they are able to grow cocaine already. just not on a mass production scale.

Only you can deride someone for using facts. I swear, it's like a one man idiot circus.


it's not that. but most of the time, you have no idea what you're talking about. you just copy and paste, copy and paste. whats funny is many of the times, you read your sources wrong and end up proved wrong. whatever, go play now.
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Postby Azure9920 » July 10th, 2009, 12:47 pm

CheGuevara wrote:it was 20 years stupid.


I knew it was something around there.

but saviano as well as other people said they are able to grow cocaine already.


Are there any other articles to support this, or just Saviano?

it's not that. but most of the time, you have no idea what you're talking about.


Incorrect.

you just copy and paste, copy and paste.


Incorrect.

whats funny is many of the times, you read your sources wrong and end up proved wrong. whatever, go play now.


Incorrect. Strike three. The ironic thing, is all three of those accusations apply to you quite perfectly, as do most of the one's you label on thewestside.
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Postby CheGuevara » July 10th, 2009, 12:54 pm

whatever makes you sleep good at night you aboriginal.
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CheGuevara wrote:You're right Azure, that's why I consistently rely on non sequitur logic when speaking to you.


Oh, I know.
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Azure9920 wrote: I barely ever know what i'm talking about Johnny, i just copy and paste through out the conversation and fill in the rest based on my own thoughts and wants.


Well admitting it is the first step towards the cure.
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CheGuevara wrote:
Azure9920 wrote: I barely ever know what i'm talking about Johnny, i just copy and paste through out the conversation and fill in the rest based on my own thoughts and wants.


Well admitting it is the first step towards the cure.


Well, since we're on the subject, can you provide an example or two of this ever happening?
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Azure9920 wrote:Well, since we're on the subject, can you provide an example or two of this ever happening?


you know exactly where you did this. i don't have to mention it because i'm not in the mood to engage in a long debate with you again. you're obviously unarmed when it comes to brains.
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CheGuevara wrote:you know exactly where you did this. i don't have to mention it because i'm not in the mood to engage in a long debate with you again. you're obviously unarmed when it comes to brains.


A simple "no" would have worked just as nicely.
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Postby CheGuevara » July 10th, 2009, 8:15 pm

Azure9920 wrote:Well, since we're on the subject, I know perfectly well that I'm a copy and paste whore who really doesn't know what he's talking about half the time. I come into conversations half way in the middle and add my little cut out texts and lols. But hey, let's stretch this conversation a little. can you provide an example or two of this ever happening?


nope, not a single one.
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