Mob Rule - Canada

[CheGuevara]

[Azure9920]

Looks like it'll be a good video.

1:00-1:10 made me lol though.

[thewestside]

Since the embedding function was taken out, here is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-5KiJvOTH0


Of course, we all know why Johnny is posting this. The claim from 0:30-0:45 about the Mafia being "pushed aside" and the Hells Angels "taking over."

Neither is exactly true. The Hells Angels have never gone to war with the Mafia, though there have been some very bloody internal conflicts within the biker gangs. The Angels have always worked with the Mafia, not fought against it. And it also depends on what part of Canada you are talking about when you say who is the "most powerful."

[CheGuevara]

oh dear god! i didn't even watch the documentary yet! i was planning on watching it just now! what a complete and utter fool!

[thewestside]

oh dear god! i didn't even watch the documentary yet! i was planning on watching it just now! what a complete and utter fool!

You didn't watch the documentary but posted it anyway? Kind of like when you only read about Albanians, but not any other groups, and then come and make comparisons.

[CheGuevara]

i'm doing ten things are once you fvcking moronic bastard. i posted it on here because i knew azure and dutchboy would be interested and i planned on watching it later.

you're the one to talk about researching only one group. you spend 99% of your research on italian organized crime.

[thewestside]

i'm doing ten things are once you fvcking moronic bastard.

1. Posting your lies and exaggerations on this forum.

2. Whacking off to the Alex Rudj poster above your bed.

3. Crying in your pillow because Albanian OC will never be what you want it to be.

4. Crying in your pillow because you are insecure about your Albanian heritage.

5. Cruising six other forums also bragging about Albanians in some fashion.

6. Talking to chicks online - the closest you get to any of them.

7. Eating a rancid, 3-day expired handful of Albanian goat cheese.

8. Shitting yourself because the goat cheese went right though you.

9. Listening to your mom and dad planning to sell your sister into sex slavery in the next room.

10. Yelling at the computer screen during one of your bitch fits.

[CheGuevara]

trying to distract what i said about what was said in the beginning of the video? wow, do you really want people to now see what the italian police officier said?

[Dobre]

i'm doing ten things are once you fvcking moronic bastard.

1. Posting your lies and exaggerations on this forum.

2. Whacking off to the Alex Rudj poster above your bed.

3. Crying in your pillow because Albanian OC will never be what you want it to be.

4. Crying in your pillow because you are insecure about your Albanian heritage.

5. Cruising six other forums also bragging about Albanians in some fashion.

6. Talking to chicks online - the closest you get to any of them.

7. Eating a rancid, 3-day expired handful of Albanian goat cheese.

8. Shitting yourself because the goat cheese went right though you.

9. Listening to your mom and dad planning to sell your sister into sex slavery in the next room.

10. Yelling at the computer screen during one of your bitch fits.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh man I love you even more, do this more frequently please it was for a good laugh LOOOOOOOOL

[thewestside]

trying to distract what i said about what was said in the beginning of the video? wow, do you really want people to now see what the italian police officier said?

You haven't commented about what was said in the beginning of the video. I did, and then said it was probably why you posted it. You then replied you hadn't even watched the video before posting it. But feel free to comment any time.

[CheGuevara]

actually i got mixed up and was referring to the sex slaves video and it was more in the middle of the video about the difference between the albanian and italian mafia in italy.

[Faciulina]

actually i got mixed up and was referring to the sex slaves video and it was more in the middle of the video about the difference between the albanian and italian mafia in italy.

albanian mafia in italy? loooool albanians are finished moron i have italian articles says romanians and nigerians far surpas them among foreign group today i can't put it because they are in italian sorry pal the albanians were the strongest foreign groups in 1995 not today... if other immigrant groups surpassed them imagine if you can compare them to the southern italian syindicates retard down that totally dominate the country and killed thousand of people it's laughable just laughable

[thewestside]

albanian mafia in italy? loooool albanians are finished moron i have italian articles says romanians and nigerians far surpas them among foreign group today i can't put it because they are in italian sorry pal the albanians were the strongest foreign groups in 1995 not today... if other immigrant groups surpassed them imagine if you can compare them to the southern italian syindicates retard down that totally dominate the country and killed thousand of people it's laughable just laughable

The problem with you and Johnny (at least one of them anyway) is that you are both on opposite sides of the spectrum where the truth is usually in the middle. The Albanians are hardly finished in Italy. They are the strongest immigrant group in the country overall. But that doesn't mean they have the same amount of influence in all areas of the country and in all rackets. I agree that there are other areas where other groups, including the ones you mentioned, have a bigger presence and more clout than the Albanians.

[CheGuevara]

I agree that there are other areas where other groups, including the ones you mentioned, have a bigger presence and more clout than the Albanians.

which areas? and show good reason for why they are in those select areas.

[Faciulina]

which areas? and show good reason for why they are in those select areas.

i can answer you easily moron in rome for example romanians are the strongest among foreign groups in turin nigerians and in milan albanians forget albanians are the strongest in all northern cities moron there are other groups there

[thewestside]

which areas? and show good reason for why they are in those select areas.

In parts of central Italy and the southern regions groups like the Romanians, Nigerians, and Chinese have much more of a presence than the Albanians. These groups are also in the northern regions but aren't as strong as the Albanians there. Once again, if you were to read Gomorra, you would get a very good idea of the makeup of the underwold in Italy.

[CheGuevara]

i believe i said show good reason for any region you might mention. care to highlight specific quotes from the book that state such things? i believe amazon allows a search inside the book feature.

[Faciulina]

In parts of central Italy and the southern regions groups like the Romanians, Nigerians, and Chinese have much more of a presence than the Albanians. These groups are also in the northern regions but aren't as strong as the Albanians there. Once again, if you were to read Gomorra, you would get a very good idea of the makeup of the underwold in Italy.

in some northern regions like piedmont nigerians are the strongest, of course we are talking aboug insignificant gangs compared to italian mafia so you can compare them in their tiny and very relative strenght; in south italy there is not any active independent gang outside the mafia

[thewestside]

i believe i said show good reason for any region you might mention. care to highlight specific quotes from the book that state such things? i believe amazon allows a search inside the book feature.

How may times do I have to say this?

I'm sick of you coming on this board, opening your big fat Albanian mouth, making claims about Albanians while not having done any research on anyone else, and then just sitting back and expecting other people to prove you wrong. I've proven you wrong literally dozens of times Johnny. And while you will probably lie and say that hasn't happened, other people will back me up on that. It's time for you to start doing some of your own objective research and not just Google "Albanian Mafia" all day. I realize that will mean that you will have to let go of this Albanian laziness you seem to have, as well as maybe fork out a few bucks for the book. With your so-called rich parents, you should have no problem with that.

[CheGuevara]

Dumb fvcking American babbles on and on ignorantly about something that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

you were the one that mentioned foreign groups being stronger than albanian criminal clans in some regions of italy. you open your big fvcking mouth so why can't you back it up? i should read an entire book because you're lying and don't have good reason like i asked you for in the beginning?

[thewestside]

you were the one that mentioned foreign groups being stronger than albanian criminal clans in some regions of italy. you open your big fvcking mouth so why can't you back it up? i should read an entire book because you're lying and don't have good reason like i asked you for in the beginning?

I explained this to you above. And it is true. As much as you might wish they were, the Albanians are not the strongest immigrant group in every part of Italy, though they are the strongest over all.

This is a perfect example of what I was talkign about in the other thread. You've only researched about Albanians in Italy. You know nothing about the other groups so you have no frame of reference. So you just sit back, make your claims, and then expect others to provide you with additional evidence that you would need to make an accurate read on the situation.

As long as you only care about Albanians, and only so you can brag about them, you will always have this problem Johnny. Nobody will respect what you have to say, no matter how often you say it.

[CheGuevara]

this is why simple questions turn into entire threads that go for 20 pages each with you. because you lose track of what you're saying and enter a totally new field of debate.

i didn't open my mouth. i stated the albanian criminals are simply the strongest out of all the immigrant groups in italy which you agree is true. however, you opened your mouth and said there are other groups in certain regions that are stronger than albanian clans. so i normally asked you for proof of this. i haven't even really denied it yet, i would just like proof because i find it hard to believe. i asked you for some good reasons for your statement. now you turn it back on me? do you honestly see the contradiction of your own claims towards your actions on this thread?

[Faciulina]

loooool cheguevara claimed albanians command all the other immigrant groups when it's simply not true since nigerians, for example, far surpass them in turin and other cities, only the southern syndicates can command everyone like puppets since all the foreign groups all togheter in north italy are even close to a single ndrangheta cell in rome or milan or turin

[thewestside]

i didn't open my mouth. i stated the albanian criminals are simply the strongest out of all the immigrant groups in italy which you agree is true. however, you opened your mouth and said there are other groups in certain regions that are stronger than albanian clans. so i normally asked you for proof of this. i haven't even really denied it yet, i would just like proof because i find it hard to believe. i asked you for some good reasons for your statement. now you turn it back on me? do you honestly see the contradiction of your own claims towards your actions on this thread?

That's part of the problem. Your attitude about finding it hard to believe that any group could be more powerful than the mighty Albanians. If you knew anything about Albanians in Italy, you would know that they don't have a strong presence in all areas of the country. Where they do, they are the most powerful. And yes, they are the strongest immigrant group overall. But they are not the strongest immigrant group in every area of the country because, as I said, they don't have a strong presence in every area of the country.

It's amazing how you are always willing to do hours of Google searches to find evidence of where Albanians are the most powerful. But in cases where they are not, you just say "Show me." And you wonder why people call you biased?

[CheGuevara]

hey idiot, you were the one who brought it up so it's up to you to find the sources and evidence for it. that is what you tell me countless times isn't it. but now you go on the lamb and contradict yourself and your own statements? i simply said the albanians were the strongest immigrant group overall by a wide margin. you were the one that came in and said not in every area. so prove it or otherwise shut the fvck up.

[thewestside]

hey idiot, you were the one who brought it up so it's up to you to find the sources and evidence for it. that is what you tell me countless times isn't it. but now you go on the lamb and contradict yourself and your own statements? i simply said the albanians were the strongest immigrant group overall by a wide margin. you were the one that came in and said not in every area. so prove it or otherwise shut the fvck up.

Saying the Albanians are the strongest immigrant overall is true. But that does not mean they have the same presence in every part of the country. Where they are small in number, or really have no population at all, there are other immigrant groups that are stronger in those areas. I keep telling you to read Gomorra, or any number of other books on organized crime in Italy, to get a picture of this. But you won't because you simply want to sit there and wait for me to post the proof right in front of you. I used to think it was because you're so damn lazy but now I'm starting to think it's just because you can't afford to buy a book. Well, I guess you could, but your family would probably have to go without the top of the line Albanian goat cheese for a few weeks.

[CheGuevara]

once again let me break it down for you since you intentionally avoided what i said before. i claimed the albanian criminals in italy are the strongest immigrant criminals by far and away. i didn't mention specific regions, i just said overall.

you then came up and said not in every region... so i said, can you show me some proof of your statement...

in response, you insult my family.

now countless times you have told me it's up to me to back up my statements and that i can't just make them and expect others to prove me wrong. so why do you contradict yourself with your own statements?

[thewestside]

once again let me break it down for you since you intentionally avoided what i said before. i claimed the albanian criminals in italy are the strongest immigrant criminals by far and away. i didn't mention specific regions, i just said overall.

you then came up and said not in every region... so i said, can you show me some proof of your statement...

in response, you insult my family.

now countless times you have told me it's up to me to back up my statements and that i can't just make them and expect others to prove me wrong. so why do you contradict yourself with your own statements?

And I told you how to see for yourself. Read Gomorra. If you are too lazy or cheap, that's not my problem. There was a time I might have gone into my records of articles, reports, etc. and found the references you requested. But I just don't care that much anymore. I'm tired of spoonfeeding you. This is one reason why you will always know very little about organized crime Johnny. Because you aren't willing to do any research above what you can find on Google. And only then it's only about Albanians. Any other group and you just sit back and demand that others sit it right in front of you. You couldn't find better proof that you are just a fanboy looking for an argument and nothing close to a serious, objective researcher.

[CheGuevara]

once again let me break it down for you since you intentionally avoided what i said before. i claimed the albanian criminals in italy are the strongest immigrant criminals by far and away. i didn't mention specific regions, i just said overall.

you then came up and said not in every region... so i said, can you show me some proof of your statement...

in response, you insult my family.

now countless times you have told me it's up to me to back up my statements and that i can't just make them and expect others to prove me wrong. so why do you contradict yourself with your own statements?

And I told you how to see for yourself. Read Gomorra. If you are too lazy or cheap, that's not my problem. There was a time I might have gone into my records of articles, reports, etc. and found the references you requested. But I just don't care that much anymore. I'm tired of spoonfeeding you. This is one reason why you will always know very little about organized crime Johnny. Because you aren't willing to do any research above what you can find on Google. And only then it's only about Albanians. Any other group and you just sit back and demand that others sit it right in front of you. You couldn't find better proof that you are just a fanboy looking for an argument and nothing close to a serious, objective researcher.

once again let me break it down for you since you intentionally avoided what i said before. i claimed the albanian criminals in italy are the strongest immigrant criminals by far and away. i didn't mention specific regions, i just said overall.

you then came up and said not in every region... so i said, can you show me some proof of your statement...

in response, you insult me.

now countless times you have told me it's up to me to back up my statements and that i can't just make them and expect others to prove me wrong. so why do you contradict yourself with your own statements?

[thewestside]

What you have yet to figure out Johnny is that I don't have to play by the same rules as you. And you know why? Because you, not me, have shown yourself to be a liar many times over. Or at least exaggerate almost constantly in favor of Albanians. So when you make a claim, if you want anyone to even give you the time of day, you're going to have to back it up with something. I'll tell you what I know. If I have a reference or link ready, I'll post it. But like I said, I don't care enough about convincing you anymore to start digging around in my files to find them just so I can post them here for you. Like I keep saying, you simply want to be spoonfed all the time. And I'm willing to bet most people won't have a problem with me doing that because they know I'm not a liar like you are and don't have an agenda like you do. Sorry pal, but you eventually build a reputation for yourself for good or bad over time.

[CheGuevara]

What you have yet to figure out Johnny is that I don't have to play by the same rules as you.

why he can't just admit he was bullshitting and flat out lied is so hard to understand :S:S:S

[thewestside]

why he can't just admit he was bullshitting and flat out lied is so hard to understand :S:S:S

Because I don't come here to BS like you do. I don't lie like you do. I state the facts as I know them. For too long now, I've played your little game of back and forth. But I just don't care anymore. Which is why I'm not going to spend 45 minutes looking for sources. I don't have to because people know I don't lie. But if the situation was reversed, you would have to provide a source because you are known as a liar Johnny? Understand? It's like the story of the boy who cried wolf.