AN APOLOGY TO BLACKS

[perongregory]

Yeah a lot of poor blacks are out of control, but guess what so are a lot of poor mexicans like those cholos who killed that baby girl last week. stop being bias...nexicans have a lot of gang ties a lot, isn't it you guys always bragging about the cholo gangster and how he started gangsterism, but it's the blacks who are gang related? Lol.and I don't think blacks nake the majority of the LAPD prob. Mexicans, definitely not no blacks.

Its not only poor blacks. Even blacks up here in Fox Hills and Baldwin Hills just cant stop acting like animals. MOST Mexicans are not gang related in LA.But in LA, blacks are a minority they are more likely to have gang ties.

youayntfresh... I can post and say alot of shit about Mexicans acting like animals, so chill it with the bs homeboy, and dobre sit yo sidelinin ass back and worry about Bulgaria, Albanians or whatever, and leave this shit to us black and browns to handle.

[MENACE18]

to me i always be hearin blacks complainin bout cops and all that BS,yea ive seen some hispanics like that,but to me alot of blacks try to make their swagger look like a gang look and they are gang related so they end up gettin killed.i know alot of hispanics who have families that are gang members but they dont be gettin gang related,some do but most dont,and nah blacks always be sayin they started the gang scene cuz the east coast and all that shit,but eses werent the ones bringen the drugs or guns into it,that was blacks

[youayntfresh]

to me i always be hearin blacks complainin bout cops and all that BS,yea ive seen some hispanics like that,but to me alot of blacks try to make their swagger look like a gang look and they are gang related so they end up gettin killed.i know alot of hispanics who have families that are gang members but they dont be gettin gang related,some do but most dont,and nah blacks always be sayin they started the gang scene because the east coast and all that shit,but eses werent the ones bringen the drugs or guns into it,that was blacks

yupp....like when a gang banger or some thug gets shot by the police they say it was racial...he was a good person..not involved in gangs...the list goes on....I dont hear this shot in other cities just in LA.

[perongregory]

youayntfresh how old are you? How long has your family had history in LA? Do you know the history of blacks with LAPD in Los ANgeles, in fact do you know the history of Mexicans with the LAPD in LA? If you don't then most of what you say is influenced by either a black doing you wrong, racism/stereotypes being fed to you by your family, homeboys, Mexican bangers. And that's the truth... because you're hardly objective when it comes to black and brown... you're the type that would get in city government and be low-key racist against blacks enacting and doing BS.

Menace...there have always been drugs and weapons involved with gangs, always. Blacks upped the violence of LA gangs, yeah, but if yall acting like it's so bad now, why you and your homies and all other ese gangs aalways braggin about killing enemies and being big, bad gangsters then. If blacks brought all this bad shit in gangs and Mexicans were just chillin, why don't eses just go and chill, cruise, drink beer, smoke wet and listen to oldies?

[thaswiper]

The fact of the matter is this is all some BS. People letting mufuccas who are gonna die in prison dictate what goes on the street. If the people on that BS don't or won't see what's wrong with that, then the shit don't stop. As far as the gang violence is concerned, i know it's more blacks killing blacks and more hispanics killing hispanics than blacks killing mexicans and vice versa. We got a gangbanging culture in LA and thats what it is. If u brotha is out here crippin', he gotta worry out bloods, other crips, and eses that his hood may not get along with. Eses gotta worry about other eses and black gangs they don't get along with. If that's the life you chose, you know what the consequences are that comes with that. But when you have hispanics killing innocent blacks and blacks killing innocent hispanics based on race, regardless of gang affiliation, you turning a gang issue into a racial issue. But i wonder, why don't my people get mad @ the blacks killing innocent blacks the way they do @ eses killing innocent blacks and i also wonder do hispanics get as upset when eses kill innocent hispanics the way they do when a black banger kills an innocent hispanic??

[MENACE18]

i never even heard of any homies usin straps and shit until blacks started usin them,it use to be every1 got down with fist,bats,knifes,chains,maybe straps once in a while but blacks were the ones who started usin guns alot and eses knew if they didnt use them black hoods would try to take them out,its true bout drive bys tho blacks didnt invent it but they were the ones and still do it in LA and other places,eses get killed by their own hood for doin a drive by

this is a question i gotta ask blacks,alot of people in LA want all the blood and crips hood to unite just like when some hoods were callin truces back in the day,to me,thats the dumbest shit ever cuz bloods were started to fight crips so if bloods dont fight crips,whats the point of bein a blood,i know now a days alot of ppl from blood and crip gangs got homies and family from rival hoods,shit i know some hoods got bloods and crips in them,and too me,if all the black hoods in LA called truces with eachother,wheres all the beef going to go to,eses,than whats gonna happen to that,ese hoods are gonna stop fightin and be cool with eachother just to take out black gangs than that shit would turn into a real racial war

[perongregory]

i never even heard of any homies usin straps and shit until blacks started usin them,it use to be every1 got down with fist,bats,knifes,chains,maybe straps once in a while but blacks were the ones who started usin guns alot and eses knew if they didnt use them black hoods would try to take them out,its true bout drive bys tho blacks didnt invent it but they were the ones and still do it in LA and other places,eses get killed by their own hood for doin a drive by

this is a question i gotta ask blacks,alot of people in LA want all the blood and crips hood to unite just like when some hoods were callin truces back in the day,to me,thats the dumbest shit ever because bloods were started to fight crips so if bloods dont fight crips,whats the point of bein a blood,i know now a days alot of ppl from blood and crip gangs got homies and family from rival hoods,shit i know some hoods got bloods and crips in them,and too me,if all the black hoods in LA called truces with eachother,wheres all the beef going to go to,eses,than whats gonna happen to that,ese hoods are gonna stop fightin and be cool with eachother just to take out black gangs than that shit would turn into a real racial war

Nah, blacks had automatic weapons and heavy shit when ese hoods was fuckin with weak ass .22s and rifles and shit and the blacks didn't make any moves, they just killed each other up in record pace. Think about it, black hoods aren't really aggressors on race bangin, that's more of a mexican thing and that's true, plus even if blacks were to go fight with mexicans mexican gangs outnumber blacks and are everywhere while black gangs aare concentrated in a few areas. That takes me into your question, shit has changed its not the day of the individual varrio or the bloods vs. crips, this is the day of Sur 13, alliances (NH, Gangsta movin, etc.) and nigger killer regardless if you are blood or crip. but ese hoods do put shit behind them sometimes to fuck with blacks, mexicans changed with this sur thing, blacks gotta change and get with the times too.

[MENACE18]

one thing i kind of see is that the sureno hoods that go kill innocent blacks do it because they want blacks out there hood,or they see them as a threat for some reason.than sometimes blacks retaliate by just killen any hispanic in that neiborhood instead of the gang that did it

one thing that i dont get,is that in the pen its all bout sticken with ur race,to me thats y the sts are probably the same,cuz in the pen innocent ppl are always killed cuz theyre race,the only difference in the sts tho is that the ppl bein killed r women and kids and teenagers who most of the times have gang ties,but to me none of the prison gangs,la eme or bgf must think they have alot of power cuz if the bgf cud get all black hoods to be cool with eachother in the pen,y cant they do it in the sts,same thing with la eme,they got all this sur thing thats suppose to be southern united raza but they arent united in the sts,to me it shud have just been keep this shit gang related,fuck the racial shit,innocent ppl shudnt be killed cuz theyre race,i know theyres places like in sd where u see blacks and ese bein cool with eachother,behind eachothers back some do talk shit but they still act cool,but in places of LA its pure racial hate,hispanics hate blacks for bein blacks,blacks hate hispanics for hating them,and too the sureno hoods that go and kill innocent ppl,that just makes ur hood look like a bitch,u might get respect in the pen but in the sts u aint,same shit for blacks,gang shit to be left to just gang members,thats it,not our ppl

[perongregory]

I feel u homeboy but shit changed... i'm not gonna lie I'm weary around some hispanics now back then when it was instant love -like we grew up together both minorities in the hood- because this shit has spilled out into the civ. populace, if it was gang shit i would be like whatever. but my young cousins got stuck up with a knife by some older bangin mexicans when they were walking to school, and they are good kids in that they have no gang ties, they were home schooled before going to public school. My uncle just approached these fools later and was like is this what it is now, you attack innocent people, you attack people over race, I thought yall were gangsters...and they respected that shit, at least they didn't do no leva ass shit like that anymore.

[Dobre]

I feel u homeboy but shit changed... i'm not gonna lie I'm weary around some hispanics now back then when it was instant love -like we grew up together both minorities in the hood- because this shit has spilled out into the civ. populace, if it was gang shit i would be like whatever. but my young cousins got stuck up with a knife by some older bangin mexicans when they were walking to school, and they are good kids in that they have no gang ties, they were home schooled before going to public school. My uncle just approached these fools later and was like is this what it is now, you attack innocent people, you attack people over race, I thought yall were gangsters...and they respected that shit, at least they didn't do no leva ass shit like that anymore.

Now that you've felt what I've been through, the healing process can begin. Say allahu akbar with me

[perongregory]

Yeah, I've felt what you've been through but you've never and you will never fell what I have been through...and aren't you eastern orthodox or something? Plus ,razbo aren't you still in high school or college now -why do you spend so much time on this site? why don't you go out and do young people shit... always on here spamming.

[Dobre]

Yeah, I've felt what you've been through but you've never and you will never fell what I have been through...and aren't you eastern orthodox or something? Plus ,razbo aren't you still in high school or college now -why do you spend so much time on this site? why don't you go out and do young people shit... always on here spamming.

I do young people shit HAHA

I'm on here spamming for the same damn reason - delete my posts and threads with this account and the previous one(razbojnik). PLEASE. I've been begging this fucking forum for the past year and it's easier for you to compare experiances because of religions to me? For Christ's sakes... :/

As for experiances, this is the discrimination I've been through: Racial, by other racial groups, such as blacks, hispanics, asians and east indians. And I fit in with them more than white Canadians. My parents witnessed the same discrimination and my dad with his thick Russian accent and spitefulness and black women don't really take fondly much and they're more spiteful...

What do you think happens?

[Coup]

Apology or not the statistics show mexicangers are targeting black civillians a lot more than black gangsters are targeting mexican civillians, either way it's punk shit.

Sorry but I had to say that about 50-60 of LA blacks are out of control animals. I dont know if that makes me a racist. Almost every black in LA has gang ties that why you hear about those low key bangers getting caught slipping.

I was at this McDonalds on Crenshaw and 43rd and theres like these old blacks that get suited and just talk. They were talking about how they are still being oppressed and that LAPD is racist.LAPD is now mostly black and Latin so why do blacks keep trying to find excuses for their own failure.

I heard that southern blacks are more respectful towards each other and other races.

( I should take this to the race forum huh)

Youayntfresh, I see through you young homie. Those Black P. Stones (on someone Black) has victimized you or someone in your family and it is very easy to see this. Your posts are very one sided when discussing Black people. Is your mother or sister dating a Black person? You live on the W/S in a highly populated Black area (around the J's I have read). I think you need to come clean young homie and let it out.

[perongregory]

Lol Coup saying/seeing exactly what I am.

[youayntfresh]

Apology or not the statistics show mexicangers are targeting black civillians a lot more than black gangsters are targeting mexican civillians, either way it's punk shit.

Sorry but I had to say that about 50-60 of LA blacks are out of control animals. I dont know if that makes me a racist. Almost every black in LA has gang ties that why you hear about those low key bangers getting caught slipping.

I was at this McDonalds on Crenshaw and 43rd and theres like these old blacks that get suited and just talk. They were talking about how they are still being oppressed and that LAPD is racist.LAPD is now mostly black and Latin so why do blacks keep trying to find excuses for their own failure.

I heard that southern blacks are more respectful towards each other and other races.

( I should take this to the race forum huh)

Youayntfresh, I see through you young homie. Those Black P. Stones (on someone Black) has victimized you or someone in your family and it is very easy to see this. Your posts are very one sided when discussing Black people. Is your mother or sister dating a Black person? You live on the W/S in a highly populated Black area (around the J's I have read). I think you need to come clean young homie and let it out.

Lol...This is the race forum isnt it?

Of course im gonna be biased here..Almost everyone is.

Im still not down with the Hispanic gangs missing their targets and killing kids.

Im just really amazed of how "African Americans" find excuses not to excel in life.

But maybe I should lay out on this issue,its non of my business right.

[Dobre]

Lol...This is the race forum isnt it?

Of course im gonna be biased here..Almost everyone is.

Im still not down with the Hispanic gangs missing their targets and killing kids.

Im just really amazed of how "African Americans" find excuses not to excel in life.

But maybe I should lay out on this issue,its non of my business right.

Hey at least we have both something in common with them, except blacks is racial while ours is political, same common policy = Oppression.

Only difference is our people are academically more efficient and more intelligent, more practical and they find tons of ways to do and get things they want more than other white people around the globe. Only thing we lack is economics on a widespread level otherwise I think you'd find white American and European scholars more stupid as the time goes by.

And if white peoples as a whole excel blacks in academics, imagine the possibilities.

Sorry, but this isn't prison or the ghetto, it isn't darwin, it's eintein. That's reality. Old fat greaseballs that are typically afraid of wannabe youngsters control the entire planet.

[Dobre]

If NATO carried out a ground campaign first instead of an air campaign in 1999 in Serbia, what do you think would have happened? Insurgency. The Balkans aren't the desert. All major world powers have came through this place through the millenia and found it harder and harder to keep the occupation on. Read about the Komiti and their kidnapping of Americans in the 1800's. It's mountains, valleys and organized crime means access to nuclear capabilities. Are you willing to risk Manhattan for that? Organized crime in the Middle East can be more isolated just like Middle Eastern society, but Balkan figures have worldwide connections.

1,000 planes bomb everything, a ceasefire is proposed then ground troops are sent once the ceasefire is accepted.

[Coup]

Sorry but I had to say that about 50-60 of LA blacks are out of control animals. I dont know if that makes me a racist. Almost every black in LA has gang ties that why you hear about those low key bangers getting caught slipping.

I was at this McDonalds on Crenshaw and 43rd and theres like these old blacks that get suited and just talk. They were talking about how they are still being oppressed and that LAPD is racist.LAPD is now mostly black and Latin so why do blacks keep trying to find excuses for their own failure.

I heard that southern blacks are more respectful towards each other and other races.

( I should take this to the race forum huh)

Youayntfresh, I see through you young homie. Those Black P. Stones (on someone Black) has victimized you or someone in your family and it is very easy to see this. Your posts are very one sided when discussing Black people. Is your mother or sister dating a Black person? You live on the W/S in a highly populated Black area (around the J's I have read). I think you need to come clean young homie and let it out.

Lol...This is the race forum isnt it?

Of course im gonna be biased here..Almost everyone is.

Im still not down with the Hispanic gangs missing their targets and killing kids.

Im just really amazed of how "African Americans" find excuses not to excel in life.

But maybe I should lay out on this issue,its non of my business right.

LOL.......yep.

Everyone is going to rep their ethnicity/culture...but not everyone clearly has such a dislike for another ethnicity that almost every post clearly raises eyebrows.

Big fuccen deal....nobody wants kids killed. That is not the issue! Your clear dislike for Black people was what my remark revolved around. There has to be a reason that you dislike so many of your neighbors...is it just their skin color? Attitudes? Again, I am not playing child psychologist here, just find it strange that you live in the J's and hate more then half its residents.

Blacks have/are/ will continue to excel. Here is an example....go outside, turn towards Stocker and look at all those big houses up on the hill. Almost all are owned or lived in by Blacks. Just a bunch of under achieving Lawyers, Doctors, Judges, Scientists, Engineers, etc. etc. etc. I know you are young but do you really believe that every Black person is like those you meet in the J's? Damn...I dissed the J's.

It is your business. You are part of the community and this city...I just want you to be honest with yourself... and look at yourself for what you are.

[perongregory]

He can't be honest, cuz eses shot at gangmembers and because of bad aim they kill multiple black civillians, in hoods where you know blacks and mexican bangers are beefin like Highland park, lol. But blacks you know they conciously, all of them, be fuckin up all the time... sort of like them negros the obamas.

[youayntfresh]

Youayntfresh, I see through you young homie. Those Black P. Stones (on someone Black) has victimized you or someone in your family and it is very easy to see this. Your posts are very one sided when discussing Black people. Is your mother or sister dating a Black person? You live on the W/S in a highly populated Black area (around the J's I have read). I think you need to come clean young homie and let it out.[/quote]


Lol...This is the race forum isnt it?

Of course im gonna be biased here..Almost everyone is.

Im still not down with the Hispanic gangs missing their targets and killing kids.

Im just really amazed of how "African Americans" find excuses not to excel in life.

But maybe I should lay out on this issue,its non of my business right.[/quote]

LOL.......yep.

Everyone is going to rep their ethnicity/culture...but not everyone clearly has such a dislike for another ethnicity that almost every post clearly raises eyebrows.

Big fuccen deal....nobody wants kids killed. That is not the issue! Your clear dislike for Black people was what my remark revolved around. There has to be a reason that you dislike so many of your neighbors...is it just their skin color? Attitudes? Again, I am not playing child psychologist here, just find it strange that you live in the J's and hate more then half its residents.

Blacks have/are/ will continue to excel. Here is an example....go outside, turn towards Stocker and look at all those big houses up on the hill. Almost all are owned or lived in by Blacks. Just a bunch of under achieving Lawyers, Doctors, Judges, Scientists, Engineers, etc. etc. etc. I know you are young but do you really believe that every Black person is like those you meet in the J's? Damn...I dissed the J's.

It is your business. You are part of the community and this city...I just want you to be honest with yourself... and look at yourself for what you are.

[/quote]


Yeah I know where you mean. Ive also been noticing more For Sale signs there.

You probably already know about the Chicago kid right. Thats my dislike. Since this is America,the media will try to portray all blacks as seen on tv.

Its not skin color or attitude. Its ignorance.

You know all that CRAP some blacks give that they are still being oppressed this and that? That ship has sailed. They can not just sit and wait for ANYONE to hand them anything. Dont get me wrong there is STILL racism but not as exaggerated as some pople put it.
This has nothing to do with the J's anyway. Im talking about blacks in LA in general.

Todays black youth is more concerned on sidekicks,skinny jeans,and other useless junk that will not excel them in life. Im talking about high schoolers not elementary.

[perongregory]

and what is the mexican youth centered on ben davis dickies, cortezes, 501's pelones, and conejo cd's? fuck is you talking about... mexicans fucking up everyday all day like blacks but you got the nerve?

[youayntfresh]

and what is the mexican youth centered on ben davis dickies, cortezes, 501's pelones, and conejo cd's? fu-- is you talking about... mexicans #%@&#%@ up everyday all day like blacks but you got the nerve?

First off Mexicans are in Mexico.

But if you want talk about the ones here ok then.

Well most Mexicans in LA are not in jeopardy like Blacks in LA are. Did you know blacks in LA have the highest drop out rate. Yet they are only about 10 percent of the population. Latinos are about 56 percent of the LA population. Yet Blacks are still higher the Latinos in dropout rate. If that is no alarming i just dont know what is.


http://www.ssc.wisc.edu/~hauser/Trends2001_03.pdf

[perongregory]

the point is a good portion of chicanos is fuckin up too being portrayed in the news bad but you lways gott excuse for them and some bs to say about blacks...

if you really cared you would be tryna make a difference instead of talk shit

[Dobre]

the point is a good portion of chicanos is fuckin up too being portrayed in the news bad but you lways gott excuse for them and some bs to say about blacks...

if you really cared you would be tryna make a difference instead of talk shit

It would really make a difference if you deleted all my threads and posts. EVERYTHING. From all accounts. It would open you up at least a gig of bandwidth. Alonzo would be so greatful he'd kiss your ass.

[perongregory]

Dobre, how many times do I have to tell you I can't do that, only Alonso... go nag him.

[mayugastank]

and what is the mexican youth centered on ben davis dickies, cortezes, 501's pelones, and conejo cd's? fu-- is you talking about... mexicans #%@&#%@ up everyday all day like blacks but you got the nerve?

First off Mexicans are in Mexico.

But if you want talk about the ones here ok then.

Well most Mexicans in LA are not in jeopardy like Blacks in LA are. Did you know blacks in LA have the highest drop out rate. Yet they are only about 10 percent of the population. Latinos are about 56 percent of the LA population. Yet Blacks are still higher the Latinos in dropout rate. If that is no alarming i just dont know what is.


http://www.ssc.wisc.edu/~hauser/Trends2001_03.pdf

There you go!! you are dismissing the race claim made by blacks --by trying to say that RACISM doesnt exist, or by saying that blacks even claiminh RACE based discrimination-is tantamount to YELLING FIRE,in a theater! Blacks who say Racism is alive and well arent ignorant-or looking for a cop out--they are just expressing what they see. I personally have been in situations or heard conversations were blacks were discriminated against , I know that anytime a black man stands up for himself at work (in a white enviroment-or with white bosses) they are labeled race baiters -standoffish or troublemakers.Simply put and sad to say that compared to hispanics, blacks are more privy to discrimination being that they have the history -right at their doorstep!less then 40 years ago -they were still states practicing segregation, and many southern states that didnt integrate till the 70s. Chicanos and Mexicans try to petend Racism doesnt exist --even when it lands in their lap , almost like WE are hoping that by not calling whites on their racial practices, eventually they will like us! Blacks know better!!, It took me along time to understand were they are coming from, but their is clearly something there that we try to ignore that blacks are willing to confront. They have and WE have a right to make accusations and stand up for ourselves when our color, race,creed is teh factor used to stereotype or pin us down. I dont know that my people dont see what is going on, I believe my people have blindly ignored it. Just take a look at the national polls whites have taken on their views towards immigration. After reading those polls come back and tell me that RACISM is not active ,alive and well.!

[perongregory]

Good post, but it's that blacks have realized we have to call it when we sense it are affected by it, or else we would totally be stepped on. I'm not saying some blacks misuse it, but it is there. I forget the name of the black leader who professed that blacks ignore racism and just try to elevate themselves in society -I think it was a Benjamin something- it didn't work.

[mayugastank]

and what is the mexican youth centered on ben davis dickies, cortezes, 501's pelones, and conejo cd's? fu-- is you talking about... mexicans #%@&#%@ up everyday all day like blacks but you got the nerve?

First off Mexicans are in Mexico.

But if you want talk about the ones here ok then.

Well most Mexicans in LA are not in jeopardy like Blacks in LA are. Did you know blacks in LA have the highest drop out rate. Yet they are only about 10 percent of the population. Latinos are about 56 percent of the LA population. Yet Blacks are still higher the Latinos in dropout rate. If that is no alarming i just dont know what is.


http://www.ssc.wisc.edu/~hauser/Trends2001_03.pdf

Being that blacks are treated poorly by all races, wouldnt it be likely that they would turn inwards? There are studies conducted on racial stereotypes and mindsets people have towards other races in an immediate reaction( whether they know the person or not). Blacks have a 400 year history of oppression in this country 200 years of slavery and 200 years of oppression, it wont just disappear in one generation considering that the 400 year history of African Americans, only the last 40 years has been on a legally equal footing. Loving versus Texas, Brown versus the Board of Education, Jim Crow segregation voted on and upheld by majoritys of teh legislature, we arent talking ancient history ,MAN!, these things happened in the last 40 years! Forced Busing--these were real upheavels in the 80s!! Boston buses were torched ,blacks beat and killed in New York in the 80-90s, Dont make it sound like its all in the past. We need to as a people wake up and get up on the stage and demand equality, just like blacks have done.We as apeople need to stop pretending that racism is not real or that when we get laid off, fired or protested against its ALL GOOD!,I really dont know whats wrong with my people. I bet that on a one on one ,most chicanos and mexicanos would admit that institutional racism is what is keeping us in the Varrios, but in public we try to pretend like the race deal is a BLACK deal, to gain points or I dont know what?! And it isnt helping us! Deportations are at their all time high, whites from east to west ,north to south have a very similiar attitude towards immigration and immigrants (of the non-white class) in study after study but here we are pretending they like us?! Get outta here....to those blacks out there , keep on fighting for whats yours and <call it like you see it>

[perongregory]

simon brother, and I implore Latinos to do the same. you are very right there are many systemic reasons why blacks and Latinos are mainly in ghettos, varrios, and prisons. If you go to any 4 year college and take a sociology class you'll learn some of the reasons, and then watch as the white kids get nervous and say well it wasn't me and my family. Blacks and Latinos are to be the workers for this beast... fuck that, get hip to the BS and shake it off.

[mayugastank]

Good post, but it's that blacks have realized we have to call it when we sense it are affected by it, or else we would totally be stepped on. I'm not saying some blacks misuse it, but it is there. I forget the name of the black leader who professed that blacks ignore racism and just try to elevate themselves in society -I think it was a Benjamin something- it didn't work.

You know , manly its older blacks who have that shared racial history with whites who are more likely to view things through colored lenses. Rosy colored glasses work so long as they stay rosy! being said after the first few times things start happening and it doesnt make sense as to why you got fired,laid off, talked down to,protested against, made laws to deport you.....it is in your best interest to see the problem for what it is. Blacks are clearly 100% more able to get to the root cause then my people are.It takes protests, murders, killings, life sentences, racial profiling, getting sent to the worst jobs-on union contracts, on and on and on and still you will get latinos who have no clue! it irritates me. Converstaions with older blacks have really opened my eyes to the discrimination, and I sat their dumbfounded that I hadnt seen the racism before?!! Like I had been told that the Race problem in America was a black/white issue so much I actually believed it! I dont know if Im grateful to having my eyes opened or would have rather been bling because , now with those rose colored glasses removed -shit looks alot dingier.I just couldnt imagine what blacks have had to go thru and go thru now. Dont let the slight of hand fool you ,-when whites try to eliminate the racial discussion as a counter argument to valid concerns they are trying to discriminate against you and have you not be able to do anything about it.

[perongregory]

The thing is I feel most Latinos would rather approach the issue of racism and assimilation the way the ethnic whites did -most notably the Irish and Italian. I'm not sure how that would work out. Either you can totally succumb to acculturation and be a white soul with brown features how some Asian populations in America have turned out, or you can mix enough with whites, but I don't think that is going to work. I don't know.

[MENACE18]

racism does exist but ive seen way too many blacks use the race card,1 black kid i went to school with got a teacher fired because she gave him an extra worksheet because he had low math grades and he bitched sayin it was cuz he was black,there was 10 other black kids in class,he dropped out of school in 8th grade and got killed in a drive by by bloods(he was a crip)and ive seen blacks be racist against every race themselves,they dont say nothing about that,ive seen a black church in florida say they didnt want a mosque built in their community because they didnt want terrorist in their area,a black church discriminating against people just because of their religion,and some of the muslims were african americans who turned to islam,white people wanted to start a show called WET, white entertainment but they werent allowed too because blacks were saying that it was racist when they got BET,when al sharpton was talken bout american idol being racist,.how many african americans have won it,alot,how many blacks got careers cuz of american idol,alot,in africa,you got africans selling kids from africa as slaves,every country has some type of slaves,asian countries do that,they have sweat shops,latin america countries do it,european,middle eastern countries do it,every group of people have felt discrimination when they came to america,chineses,japanese,koreans,mexicans,italians,irish,germans,russian,every one not just blacks,and to me i kind of find it sad cuz pretty much every1 from other races can trace their ancestors but blacks some cant because they were never told,some just dont know,theres alot of countries and tribes in africa,alot of people speak about black power and all that,they should try to go and find out what tribe,country they from