East side longos and ICG,r20

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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby perongregory » August 21st, 2010, 4:41 pm

Hell NO! They didn't take over no SC, in West SC that's nigga land through and through, even East SC still got blacks doin they thing, just the pop. Thinnin out so in 10 yrs that shit gon be all Mexican.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby caliboi » August 21st, 2010, 4:46 pm

perongregory wrote:Hell NO! They didn't take over no SC, in West SC that's nigga land through and through, even East SC still got blacks doin they thing, just the pop. Thinnin out so in 10 yrs that shit gon be all Mexican.

nigga dis is bout l.a. county not south carolina. u eva ben to l.a. man and see how it is compared to south carolina. bloods vs crips vs surenos is the l.a. wars goin down rite now. idk bout sc but that seems like a hell of a boring place to live
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » August 21st, 2010, 5:39 pm

perongregory wrote:Hell NO! They didn't take over no SC, in West SC that's nigga land through and through, even East SC still got blacks doin they thing, just the pop. Thinnin out so in 10 yrs that shit gon be all Mexican.



I think your wasting your time with caliboi he seems to be a french fry short of a combo meal . I mean the boy jumped from South Central to Soth Carolina...hahaha. And he referred to you was niigga -mispelled purposely to show you how serious he is.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby caliboi » August 21st, 2010, 8:12 pm

mayugastank wrote:
perongregory wrote:Hell NO! They didn't take over no SC, in West SC that's nigga land through and through, even East SC still got blacks doin they thing, just the pop. Thinnin out so in 10 yrs that shit gon be all Mexican.



I think your wasting your time with caliboi he seems to be a french fry short of a combo meal . I mean the boy jumped from South Central to Soth Carolina...hahaha. And he referred to you was niigga -mispelled purposely to show you how serious he is.

aye dood i thot he meant sc as in south carolina i guess it ment south central l.a. so did chu wach the gland on florencia 13 vs crips new episode
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby buLLetxx2 » August 21st, 2010, 10:25 pm

mayugastank wrote:It just doesnt seem so ...I mean how the hell Longos can do battle with some dozen gangs..I dont know. What you read is constant killing done by them -and I mean constant//one after another after another....and their fighting the entire LBC. Maybe that seige mentality has made them extra fanatical > But even from other varrios they are known as being on the same level as skinheads. their aint no mexican gangs Ive ever heard of to get NK and GOOK KILLER tattooed on their faces....like the longeros on some youtube videos. wild dude i wish their was more on this subject out there -I feel they deliberately try to downplay the race card in LB so people dont figure how bad it is. You could take the entire East LA against the East Side of the LBC and they would have more violence going on in LB.


It really doesn't fit the typical sur fanatical profile, this is...or at least is attempted to be portrayed as, downright open, indiscriminate racism on their part, if there is such a thing. They blast innocents without giving it a second thought, this is what's been going down and, if you haven't already noticed, this is why I got the way I did when you and I first exchanged (unfriendly) words, Mayu, because I was raised in this. I've tried to tell Alonso and others on this board that, though the whole "black v brown" thing is all up in everyone's faces, the "yellow v brown" war in long beach has been going on much longer, and tends to get swept under the rug, without just cause.

Though the Press Telegram articles also do not do it justice, there are just as many black/asian retaliation shootings/killings going down, though you never see them reported as much, this is in line with PT's agenda though if you notice all the immigration debates re: hispanics in the past years so it's no surprise to see more coverage of hispanic crimes than most. Black gangs(20s and IGC) only get coverage when they get the wrong folks(like that melody ross shooting recently). Asians(gangs) dump on longos when they lose one of their own, this is documented (somewhat) in the media, and is well known to anyone from the HA on the streets. I ain't trying to name names, dates and times here so please just trust this, coming from someone who was (once) in the thick of it.


Oh, and Mayu, CBC is not "cambodian brotherhood clan", it started out as "Cold Blooded Cambodians" and they originally banged crip, then the black crips got it twisted and misconstrued the meaning of "cold blooded"(thinking they meant bloods), and at the same time they got tired of cripping(they were not generally accepted by any of the asian crips in the beach because they'd alligned themselves with TRG and WSI at the time) and switched to, what they're presently known as, Crazy Brothers Clan, call themselves "clansters" as opposed to "cuhz" and fly the white flag as opposed to blue.
Though, that video/article you posted is what i spoke of and, in line with what i previously mentioned, was one of the few Asian murders committed by longos that actually got an Asian gang member...most of them in the past 7-8 years or so have been innocents with the exception of a few.


In the long run it all boils down to, imo, drugs and the M. Sure the (e/s) longos may feel outnumber (because they are on the E/S, they're smaller than they've ever been despite them being arguably the oldest hood on the E/S) but they're sitting on prime turf for import and hub distribution atm and that is the reason why they've chosen not to go, for lack of a better phrase, silently into the night. They still, really, hold no weight in the E/S, Insanes(arguably) run the E/S and always have, the longos are just fighting not to die on the east.

The w/s and n/s, now thats a dif story, but on the east those fools are and have been in steady decline.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » August 21st, 2010, 11:09 pm

Ive heard this that the ESLongos have been hit hard with injunctions ETC. Ive also known that the majority of their members are in prison. Certain gangs have a reputation as being killers and the Longos are ones Ive heard about forever-they were the first to tattoo CK-NK- on themselves -a guy named LIL EVIL was the first mexican I had ever known about to sport CK like a black gang member. It seems theyve had their start in the 1940s. You say the media doesnt mention it as much, but to the contrary if Im correct Freedom Writers/and several national magazines (USA TODAY-TIME MAGAZINE) have picked up the story. I remember hearing about the Longos fighting a dozen asian gangs-and a few huge black gangs. Wasnt the thinking that the Longos were the largest? from others view. But I actually remember hearing about how they were seriously outgunned by some dozen gangs. It was a well known fact amongst chicanos that the Longos were on par with skinheads and actually labeled themselves as such/took pride in it. I have been interested in this subject for awhile -the crimes go back to 1989 and have been constant and non-stop the site where I got the articles I posted had literally an endless stream of hate crimes.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.p ... pic=126444.

Take a look as this is the most comprehensive look at the subject I have ever seen its lacking in its depth as it doesnt even touch on the crimes committed since 2000 -which are numerous and endless in themselves -I believe your view that the asian/longo war is not covered is completely wrong. Its just that its quieted down and the new thinking is to cover the black/brown beef of which the LONGOS are actively participating in. I had seen something inthe works of a serious documentary being done on the subject in 2007 -but didnt hear anything about it since. The articles above dont touch on how the Longos are also at War with the citys blacks. I bet if you incorporated the amounts of murders with blacks the death toll would resemble a mini war.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » August 21st, 2010, 11:29 pm

A 2003 article in vibe magazine detailing some stories of the exiles of the gang war with the Longos


http://books.google.com/books?id=viYEAA ... &q&f=false



Weekend of violence

LONG BEACH: Police investigate three killings and shooting of toddler.
By Tracy Manzer, Staff Writer

Posted: 03/02/2009 10:16:09 PM PST

The two victims - Austin Sarom Seng, 20, of Long Beach and Chamreun Kong, 20, of Bellflower - were gunned down in a North Long Beach alley, authorities said.

Police said they began investigating the incident after they were called at about 2:30 p.m. to an alley in the 2000 block of East Del Amo Boulevard regarding a fight between two groups of males.

"At one point, someone fired shots from one group into the other group and two males went down," Bezart said.

Seng died at the scene of Sunday's fight, while Kong died at a local hospital, said Coroner's Assistant

Near these apartments at Orange Avenue and 59th Street, Malaki Teaupa was in his SUV when two men fired upon the vehicle and ran away, police said. (Stephen Carr / Staff Photographer)Chief Ed Winter.
Long Beach homicide detectives were called out a second time on Monday when 26-year-old Malaki Teaupa was killed, authorities said.

The third homicide victim in less than two days was sitting in front of an apartment complex at 59th Street and Orange Avenue at about 12:30 a.m. when he was shot multiple times, according to police and the Los Angeles County Coroner's Department.

Witnesses said the victim was sitting in the driver's seat of an SUV when two males approached on foot and fired several times into the vehicle before running away, Bezart said.

The motive for Teaupa's slaying was still under investigation Monday, Bezart said.

Also not yet known was his city of residence, she said.

Anyone with information on any of the killings is asked to call the Long Beach Homicide Detail at 562-570-7244.

Those with information about the shooting of the 15-month-old girl are urged to call the LBPD's dispatch center at 562-435-6711.

tracy.manzer@presstelegram.com, 562-499-1261
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » August 21st, 2010, 11:40 pm

North side Longos killed 2 members of the asian boyz in the above post
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » August 22nd, 2010, 12:40 am

mayugastank wrote:North side Longos killed 2 members of the asian boyz in the above post



Theres 2 much on the subject/just in the last few searches I found enough attempts and murders by the Longos and against them to know that this black and asian/mexican gang war is one of the worst. Its beyond me -anytime I pick up on a subject like this it leaves me disgusted and right about now I am realizing the reasons our people live in the shitholes and abusive life styles we do. we can continue to lay the blame on the white man -but seriously no one asked these bangers to pick up a weapon cap some black dude sitting outside his home fixing a car and no one asked an asian kid to retaliate against some long haired hispanic kid for a shooting of some low life banger. What a serious bunch of straight idiots. Meanwhile after their construction jobs the LONGOS similiar to the italian mafia went on a robbery spree and killed a clerk at a 7-11 for a total of $36 dollars-both suspects were caught and eventually recieved life sentences .....gangsters.....my ass.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby caliboi » August 22nd, 2010, 7:04 am

its gon to get worse n worse unless an asian gang cums up on the rise
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby buLLetxx2 » August 22nd, 2010, 8:37 am

mayugastank wrote:North side Longos killed 2 members of the asian boyz in the above post



Only Cham (aka D-bo, whom I mentioned earlier) banged ABZ, and he was inactive/retired at the time of the shooting, the other victim was just another innocent with zero gang ties, unless you can't the fact that he'd known Cham since they were kids.

Cham had grew his hair out(to cover up an ABZ tat on his head) and been rocking long sleeves (in public) for quite some time when that shooting occurred, he'd just had a daughter too.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby caliboi » August 22nd, 2010, 9:58 am

buLLetxx2 wrote:
mayugastank wrote:North side Longos killed 2 members of the asian boyz in the above post



Only Cham (aka D-bo, whom I mentioned earlier) banged ABZ, and he was inactive/retired at the time of the shooting, the other victim was just another innocent with zero gang ties, unless you can't the fact that he'd known Cham since they were kids.

Cham had grew his hair out(to cover up an ABZ tat on his head) and been rocking long sleeves (in public) for quite some time when that shooting occurred, he'd just had a daughter too.

did dis occur last year or this year???
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » August 22nd, 2010, 10:59 am

buLLetxx2 wrote:
mayugastank wrote:North side Longos killed 2 members of the asian boyz in the above post



Only Cham (aka D-bo, whom I mentioned earlier) banged ABZ, and he was inactive/retired at the time of the shooting, the other victim was just another innocent with zero gang ties, unless you can't the fact that he'd known Cham since they were kids.

Cham had grew his hair out(to cover up an ABZ tat on his head) and been rocking long sleeves (in public) for quite some time when that shooting occurred, he'd just had a daughter too.



Well he was with a gangbanger-ex or not. When you associate with someone like that your looking for trouble-the guys who blasted them I bet saw that he was a banger whether retired or not. I have never been involved with gangs and the look I have shows it. Theres a certain look bangers have whether or ex bangers or not/I can always see it and I am sure others can as well. You know the deal. The way they dress is always a certain throwback to gang dress...either the khakis/dockers get creased -the hair looks deliberately long to cover tattoos( seen this alot) or a long sleeve shirt in the hottest weather is well known to hide a banger. But usually its the face after doing stretches and behaving badly that shows me a certain person is affiliated. Like Monster said " its not the look that scares people -its whats behind that look that scares them"


The Longos always been this active? You said earlier that they are just holding on but it seems like whats left is doing alot of shootings -I mean they are fighting the entire LBC .
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby caliboi » August 22nd, 2010, 6:40 pm

like dey say jus anotha day in the lbc
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby buLLetxx2 » August 23rd, 2010, 8:27 am

mayugastank wrote:
buLLetxx2 wrote:
mayugastank wrote:North side Longos killed 2 members of the asian boyz in the above post



Only Cham (aka D-bo, whom I mentioned earlier) banged ABZ, and he was inactive/retired at the time of the shooting, the other victim was just another innocent with zero gang ties, unless you can't the fact that he'd known Cham since they were kids.

Cham had grew his hair out(to cover up an ABZ tat on his head) and been rocking long sleeves (in public) for quite some time when that shooting occurred, he'd just had a daughter too.



Well he was with a gangbanger-ex or not. When you associate with someone like that your looking for trouble-the guys who blasted them I bet saw that he was a banger whether retired or not. I have never been involved with gangs and the look I have shows it. Theres a certain look bangers have whether or ex bangers or not/I can always see it and I am sure others can as well. You know the deal. The way they dress is always a certain throwback to gang dress...either the khakis/dockers get creased -the hair looks deliberately long to cover tattoos( seen this alot) or a long sleeve shirt in the hottest weather is well known to hide a banger. But usually its the face after doing stretches and behaving badly that shows me a certain person is affiliated. Like Monster said " its not the look that scares people -its whats behind that look that scares them"


The Longos always been this active? You said earlier that they are just holding on but it seems like whats left is doing alot of shootings -I mean they are fighting the entire LBC .



Well, that shooting we were just discussing occurred on the North Side, by N/S Longos, when I said they were just "holding on" I was referring to the E/S Longo set, as they've lost quite a foot hold since the rise of black and asian gangs on the East Side in the 80s.

Also, dress and indirect association were not really an issue in that shooting, Cham was fresh out of work, rocking Cable Company clothes, it started with 2 N/S Longos spotting the group of Asians in an alley and murmuring racial slurs in passing, they did not ID themselves as Longos and none of the Asians IDd themselves as Asian Boyz but Cham, formerly aka D-Bo, was given that name for a reason, he was pretty big for a Cambodian and could scrap so, in the face of verbal, racial abuse, he stood up to the 2 Longos and, even in a 2 on 1, mopped the floor w/ them. He let them walk(there was 4 Asians and 2 Hispanics, only 1 Asian fought both Hispanics without anyone "jumping in", they could have just ended it right away but it wasn't seen as more than a stupid, every day racist confrontation to them) but when they got to their car they pulled out a gun, Cham still didn't run which is why they were able to get him point blank in the chest.

This ties into one of your other questions, no? The fact that Longos tend to just indiscriminately attack based on race, regardless of gang affiliation, simply because their enemies are of XXX or YYY decent, all X's and Y's become enemies in their eyes and an easy way to earn stripes.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » August 23rd, 2010, 7:10 pm

Yea Longos are on a trip way different then any other mexican hood Ive known about-Their isnt a mexican gang anywhere in USA that I can think of at that level. Its one of the reasons Ive found it interesting/ I am here we have a gang surrounded by different ethnic groups/who have declared war on all of them. They are directly responsible for creating a majority of Asian gangs throughout the USA-as these asian gangs adopted the styles and demeanor of the Longos while at the same time trying to kill them. The style of tattooing on the Longos is like nothing Ive ever seen on a mexican gang.

I guess the hate goes both ways/check out the video CHONGO KILLA...hahaha/it sounds [youtubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zks0wRrHqoc&feature=related][/youtube]pretty good though.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby buLLetxx2 » August 23rd, 2010, 7:33 pm

Ha, yeah, I heard that song last year when it popped up on youtube. it's that fool "Black Raskal aka Kamouw", he definitely got some skills and I enjoyed the song, for what it's worth, despite my past problems with Raskals. Banging on wax was always pretty laughable to me, but at least this one is halfway decent on it's own, despite the subject matter.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby caliboi » August 23rd, 2010, 7:45 pm

buLLetxx2 wrote:Ha, yeah, I heard that song last year when it popped up on youtube. it's that fool "Black Raskal aka Kamouw", he definitely got some skills and I enjoyed the song, for what it's worth, despite my past problems with Raskals. Banging on wax was always pretty laughable to me, but at least this one is halfway decent on it's own, despite the subject matter.

dood do u listen to that undaground rap haha i rather listen to snoop dogg, daz dillinger, kurupt, nate dogg, warren g, tupac, and eazy e cuz dey all frm l.a. county and r way more real with musik
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby buLLetxx2 » August 23rd, 2010, 8:04 pm

caliboi wrote:
buLLetxx2 wrote:Ha, yeah, I heard that song last year when it popped up on youtube. it's that fool "Black Raskal aka Kamouw", he definitely got some skills and I enjoyed the song, for what it's worth, despite my past problems with Raskals. Banging on wax was always pretty laughable to me, but at least this one is halfway decent on it's own, despite the subject matter.

dood do u listen to that undaground rap haha i rather listen to snoop dogg, daz dillinger, kurupt, nate dogg, warren g, tupac, and eazy e because dey all frm l.a. county and r way more real with musik


Off topic but yes, I do listen to "underground" rap if anything, and not gangster underground, I can't do radio rap anymore it's all the same garbage with a gem or 2 in between the scraps(i sound like a red state old dude right now ha). Latyrx, DJ Shadow, Sage Francis, Sole, Dose one, Aesop Rock, Qwel, etc...all good in my book. I still bump the old stuff, some Warren G circa Gfunk Era, the Twinz, Masta Ace and the oldies but goodies, Zapp and Roger, Parlament, some Tom Tom Boys, haha.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby caliboi » August 23rd, 2010, 8:32 pm

buLLetxx2 wrote:
caliboi wrote:
buLLetxx2 wrote:Ha, yeah, I heard that song last year when it popped up on youtube. it's that fool "Black Raskal aka Kamouw", he definitely got some skills and I enjoyed the song, for what it's worth, despite my past problems with Raskals. Banging on wax was always pretty laughable to me, but at least this one is halfway decent on it's own, despite the subject matter.

dood do u listen to that undaground rap haha i rather listen to snoop dogg, daz dillinger, kurupt, nate dogg, warren g, tupac, and eazy e because dey all frm l.a. county and r way more real with musik


Off topic but yes, I do listen to "underground" rap if anything, and not gangster underground, I can't do radio rap anymore it's all the same garbage with a gem or 2 in between the scraps(i sound like a red state old dude right now ha). Latyrx, DJ Shadow, Sage Francis, Sole, Dose one, Aesop Rock, Qwel, etc...all good in my book. I still bump the old stuff, some Warren G circa Gfunk Era, the Twinz, Masta Ace and the oldies but goodies, Zapp and Roger, Parlament, some Tom Tom Boys, haha.

dood its actually not off topic those guys came frm l.a. county but snoop dogg, daz dillinger, warren g, nate dogg all came frm e/s lbc and wuz prt of the rollin 20s and dey proly kno the war with the chongos and had shit with dem.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » August 24th, 2010, 1:55 am

[youtubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zks0wRrHqoc][/youtube]



Madafucker got me feeling like killing a chongo...shit is so tight/too bad it aint placed at a different level .....I aint ging a fuck ..chongo run on up /holmes you better duck ESE....chongo killa/nigga ......EAST SIDE CHONGO CAP PEELER....haha...this fool is 2 much/ I cant get over the lyrics though hes a savage for that one/for a bloody chongo laying on the spot ...I gotz no love for these animals.....hahah......but seriously change the words a bit and you got a hit .....I had to dance to this shit a little....haha
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » August 24th, 2010, 2:04 am

I dont know what the fuck cambodians/and mexicans got against eachother/out there. Its weird cuz I dont ever think asian girls look good unless they cambodian or pinoy. And I only like them cuz they resemble mexican girls -petite/thin faced/femine/ big lipped.....I seen some khmer girls Id marry on the spot...small waisted/big assed and big lipped -whew! props for that . Seems like our cultures would have more in common then difference/ I mean your parents( immigrant cambodians) got the same swag as paisas. They keep to themselves dont believe in being loud or causing a scene. Are friendly-honest-and in genaral decent people. My dad used to say that he prefered to deal with asians then mexicans..lol. You guys are fucked up our there in LBC its a shithole/
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » November 24th, 2010, 2:49 pm

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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby mayugastank » November 24th, 2010, 2:58 pm

At 1:41 Goldie loc says he got a clip for them pinche Longeros......other songs he talks about killing elote salesmen. Goldie Locs sister( PANCAKE) was gunned down in his garage ( studio) by East Side Longo gang members.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby caliboi » December 6th, 2010, 10:12 am

man the beef has been going on for a long ass time wow!!! i think its not gonna end until any race is wiped out basically.
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Re: East side longos and ICG,r20

Postby H572DSTA » December 7th, 2010, 4:01 pm

caliboi wrote:man the beef has been going on for a long ass time wow!!! i think its not gonna end until any race is wiped out basically.


just shut the fucc up
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