mayugastank wrote:
Blacks have influenced the entire world -definetly. The music alone is shouted in the streets of Ireland to the clubs of Japan.
In the 20th century ,with out a doubt, black americans have impacted nightlife,entertainment, and helped to mold the atmosphere of different countries modern day culture. An example of this is jazz, back in the early 20th century it didn't take long for it to become popular in not just AMerica but it had appeal to the masses in Europe, in Germany during WWII it swept the nation and many kids German youth were were swept into the wave so strongly they even risked their freedom,jazz was outlawed because anything that was associated as black american. or in blunt words African or mud-people music ,it was seen as blasphemous,repulsive , and unpatriotic in Nazi Germany .
Now I could go ahead and state "Ska" a Caribbean style genre of music influencing the Skinheads of England(were skinhead culture arguably originated) or could state how Afro-Brazilian martial arts styles have influenced modern jiu jitsu , or better yet contemporary modern Latin american music having strong roots in Afro-Congo music but that would be off topic cause we are focusing on urban youth in America , Chicano or African American youth in America.Or better yet urban youth influencing modern art, so I will stay within in these bounds.
mayugastank wrote:
Forget the AZTEC designs -calendars-mexican women-I mean talking that street style that all races do. Yet till recently NO RACE besides us EVER did.
Saying Aztec culture didn't influence Chicano art, is like saying the fore fathers of America starting the US Senate and House of Representatives wasn't influenced by England's House of Commons and House Of Lords , its like saying protestant abbeys were not influenced by Catholic Cathedrals in architecture, like saying Bootsy COllins wasn't influenced by JB's to make his own musical get down.When new art forms first arise they usual mimic something that they previously were familiar with or were even apart of.
An example is Latin American catholic art being merged with indigenous Latin American gods in the 17th and 18th centuries, saints and gods ended up becoming syncretic and synonymous with each other ,whether they were African rooted gods or Indian American gods.
mayugastank wrote:
Meaning to say that those designs werent EVER used by anyone else. Its significat because a big percent of the scene and clothing worn now are direct results of the tattoo culture.Ed Hardy incorporating sailor jerry tattoo designs/and old school cholo art/day of the dead making its way onto the rock scene by way of tattoos/shirts/art and even lately ideology.
Ed Hardy jeans were always popular amongst the punk rockers and stoners, I don't know exactly when cholos actually started wearing it.But I noticed a lot of Chicanos have had a similar taste with the stoners in regards to fashion through the years. Pearcings,tattoos,and some of pants were something that cholos have always had in common with ravers and stoners , other things that were similar between the two ,were steel toe boots, chains,pants side chain,and you wouldn't of guessed it"tattoos".
mayugastank wrote:
The ear plugs original worn by taggers/ravers out here with aztec designs in the center to represent a throwback to our aztec culture ( the first people to use plugs) and on and on.
Well this the reason why you cannot discard, the aztec designs because they obviously influenced Chicano culture, whether it was something rehashed by Chicanos remembering their ancestors or if it was Aztec art that was inspirational they saw and decided to incorporate into their art.
Catholicism seems to influence the Chicano street style, the Virgin Mary is even important to some chicano gangs in LA, and some even keep Catholic ''saints'' close to their for protection or even a prayer for money, at least from what I can conclude.
mayugastank wrote:
I mean we have every ethnic group in the world here and every region has different people BUT only the chicanos of teh Southwest have been able to adapt/adopt both cultures to set the trends for the worlds underground art. Its a beautiful movement -but its a privelege to sport our identifiers and they dont belong to everyone.
But don't you think that some CHicano art has been influenced by some of the the other urban styles, hip hop, stoner, punk rock, and especially Catholic art. And I would say catholic art because the Virgin Mary is painted throughout a lot of walls in Chicano gangs. The truth is America has a lot of urban sub cultures if jews live along Italians in north eastern US neighborhoods, they will influence each other, if Albanians live alongside each other in an Eatern European neighborhood in the US, they will be obvious cultural exchanges between them.Take for example Puerto RIcans and Cubans in New York in the 1950s they obviously have influenced each other in culture that helped spread musical style and suspicious beliefs,and of course what about Salvadorians and Mexicans, they both have the same style gangs examples of this is MS13 and 18st, so of course they influence each other. There is no exception to CHicanos and blacks who live in the same neighborhoods in Texas,California, Detroit, and CHicago,they probably have influenced each other somehow, in graffitti ,tricking out cars,gangster styles ,and of course tattoos