perongregory wrote:I don't know bro, when I read about some of the weird shit people liked back in the day in diff. parts of the world I feel societal ideas of beauty might trump our inherent biological leanings. This scientist said this:
However, John Manning of the University of Liverpool in England cautions against over-generalization, especially by Western scientists. "Darwin thought that there were few universals of physical beauty because there was much variance in appearance and preference across human groups," Manning explained in email interview. For example, Chinese men used to prefer women with small feet. In Shakespearean England, ankles were the rage. In some African tribal cultures, men like women who insert large discs in their lips.
Indeed, "we need more cross-cultural studies to show that what is true in Westernized societies is also true in traditional groups," Manning said his 1999 article.
(source: http://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/issu ... /feng.html)
And the studies you cited mayuga are of western men. Now if humans prefer a certain look and only a few groups of humans really possess this look are you telling me that for centuries most humans have been settling? Seriously.
mayugastank wrote:Absolutely not....that is not what I am saying. What I am saying is that beauty equals a certain bone structure as science says it does --that-that bone structure would equal beauty in that race as well. West Africans are well known for having that facial bone structure...however the differences in hair/skin color wouldnt make them as appealing to all races. But ask an African what he considers good looking and the facial charecteristics of beauty is almost guaranteed to equal "pretty". Is Vivica Fox beautiful?Yes absolutely....Is Queen Latifah? In my opinion"hell nah".....lol. Would certain races have more or less of the characteristics? yes in my opinion...but it is an opinion and only that. I just have never seen it on average as much as I have amongst that certain list" silencioso" is regretting posting......haha
Silencioso wrote:Yeah, I know, Peron. To be honest, I'm beginning to regret even putting up that post. Now I seem like a racist jerk. I just want Sentenza to support his position a little better.
mayugastank wrote:Your statement is saying that you believe that the universal concept of beauty is new.
This is a photograph of the so called Venus of Villendorf in Austria from prehistoric times, about 20.000 years ago. It is believed, that it had ritual functions concerning fertility.
It does not correspond very much to our present sense of an ideal body, because we expect beauty to evoke sensuous and mental delight as an image of harmony and perfection.
This sculpture is small in size, only approx. 11 cm of limestone, but great in design, as it is very elaborately composed and carried out.
Antiquity: Hellenism/Ancient Rome
The Hellenistic conception of art derived from natural life, as the Romans were more pragmatic than the Greeks. It was realistic and therefore allowed the first individual portraits in history.
Here we have "Aphrodite Kallipygos", goddess with beautiful buttocks, made about 100 b.c.
Late Middle Ages
Here we see the paradise scenes on a miniature from one of the most beautiful books ever made, called " Les tr�s riches heures du Duc de Berry", a prayer book of the French king's brother, originating from about 1400.
An enormous change in art has taken place. We see the so called "Beautiful -" or "Soft Style", a luxurious, refined fashion again, with a slim silhouette.
Uniquely the ideal of a beautiful female body was having a belly and looking pregnant!
Finally - another work of the so called "Classical Modern Era", the "Reclining Female Nude" by Modigliani, 1917, a beautiful and ideal body for us. In contemporary art the variety is vast an there seems to be no more universal ideal. Nevertheless the charming curves of Modigliani still delight our senses.
21. Reclining Female Nude Amadeo Modigliani, 1917; Milan
mayugastank wrote:HERE WE GO evermore! Congrats miss universe -miss mexico 2010.
Silencioso wrote:mayugastank wrote:HERE WE GO evermore! Congrats miss universe -miss mexico 2010.
Be serious Mayuga! That girl is about as white as Mexicans get! Where's your brown pride, homie? Let's see some Aztec princess represent Mexico for a change.
You know that won't happen, the media worships the fair skin in Mexico/Latin America as does much of the world.Silencioso wrote:Be serious Mayuga! That girl is about as white as Mexicans get! Where's your brown pride, homie? Let's see some Aztec princess represent Mexico for a change.
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