FAVELA9 wrote:the dude from the lench mob is on a regular yard riding as well as tray dee from the east siders and there by far more famous than x raided.
FAVELA9 wrote:so your saying tray dee is less famous than x ?
another thing is why did he accept to go to a yard like that ? wonder what his homies thought of him as he left ? big dissappoinment right there , tray dee been on world tours with snoop i say hes more famous and way more g'd up for a fact.
MMRbkaRudog wrote:Also, how do you even know those other rappers are currently walking the main line? You actually keep tabs on this? I wouldn't think you did, especially if you couldn't even remember what rapper from the lench mob it was.
FAVELA9 wrote:relax hoe ! why are fools getting all mad because x raided is on a pc yard and got hit by a bunch of pc's ? thats a bad look right there - for him.
i guess prison standards for blacks amognst each other are questionable ? dont you think ?
youngspade wrote:I was talkin abt how he thinks mexicans run all california pens gtfouttahere!!!
femun wrote:youngspade wrote:I was talkin abt how he thinks mexicans run all california pens gtfouttahere!!!
FAVELA9 wrote:do you think thats why the BLACK GUERILLA FAMILY hasnt been able to have more numbers in the calif. state pens ?
mayugastank wrote:Its nothing to be proud of but its pretty much true. I read a book detailing California prisons in the 1960s and the author and prison officials likewise said the Surenos at that time ran the situation even then....they made up about 15% of the population but were hands down in control--with far more white and blacks. Reason? Idealogoy. Race.
Mexicans even back then were indoctrinated to believe in Racial Ideology akin to the Japanese--they also felt as outsiders in a hostile enviroment of racism on the streets. Whites would frame and routinely beat the snot outta inmates in and out of prison -so what developed as a code of no cooperation and no trusting those outside your race amongst the Chicano bangers. This led to a group think solidarity ---that both whites and blacks did not have. Read the book Soledad brother and youll see that even George Jackson admits to the unifying racial consciousness amongst Chicanos ---he also devoted some paragraphs to the pysche of the black man and his demeanor towards his brother. Competition and hatred is somewhat how he described the black inmate. This inability to unite under a "race" amongst blacks left them vulnerable. If a mexican chose to stab and or kill a black --their might be a black who retaliates but he has no fear of unifying black power to retaliate. Meaning: they did not act as a solid group. They were also more so likely then chicanos and even whites to be police informers.....another theme brought about by divide and conquer.
Monster Cody said " if a mexican lets out a cry for help you'll be fighting a 100 of them" If a black does he is on his own....their is no black collective in prison or out of it. HIS WORDS NOT MINE!
In the book Monster -he wrote that Surenos had handidly won the War for control of the prisons--remember this was in the early 1990s...........the Sureno and Chicano population wasnt even 25% then...........these are his words AGAIN.
Although its nothing to be proud of its the absolute truth. Racial Unity stronger then that of both whites and blacks made Chicanos both North and South the top dogs. Its kind of like a suicide bomber ----how can he be stopped when he is ready to die for the cause? In this case young chicano bangers were indoctrinated with the "cause" being racial superiority and racial heirarchy against a hostile country/judicial system and opposing racial groups.
Read thru it again.......He stated word for word .......that the Surenos were winning the war statewide. I dont have my copy anymore but it is in there, or Id quote you a page #. I believe he was discussing a certain prison were blacks had maintained control previously and at a time when SUR and blacks were at war statewide....right after the LA riots and public beatings of mexicans LA EME called a statewide war on blacks...real talk. I know alot of people discount those incidents as not a big deal but LA EME was extremely offended and theirs been others whove reiterated the public beatings as the catalyst for most ongoing prison violence...if you look thru the history of the system youll see that the early 90s after the LA riots where the most deadly in the system between black and brown.
mayugastank wrote:Also you didnt point out the fact that monster admitted that the black inmate was unreachable -not loyal to race or race conscious.
mayugastank wrote:You also didnt point out my other quote from Monster where he speaks on the collective unity amongst chicanos-The guy really had a bad taste for SURENOS and its obvious in his words if you pay attention....
but irregardless he did give them props and grudgingly admitted that though smaller in numbers they were outmanuevering black inmates through collective consciousness.
mayugastank wrote:He seemed disgusted by the fact of the alliance between brown and white inmates and wondered aloud --how they could unite with whites that way?....
mayugastank wrote:In Soledad was a little more than two hundred Crips. They all stuck together, CCO made sure of that. Together they all worked out and when Kody was there they co-operated with UBN, Vanguards, BGF and 415. Every time any Crip showered, another stood guard.
mayugastank wrote:he also called Nortenos "CULTURED" in comparision to the SURENO.....
mayugastank wrote:After a while a general knife fight broke out in one of the wings. The Northern Mexicans (who were allied with the blacks) were attacked by the Southern Mexicans (who were allied with the whites). The white population was driven into the dayroom and attacked by the black population, several whites were stabbed. One prisoner was shot to death by the guards. Later a racist guard was attacked. Kody was involved in the attack together with a few others and therefore was sent to San Quentin.
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