Evidence points to frame-up in Tookie Williams case

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Evidence points to frame-up in Tookie Williams case

Unread post by 'X' » December 8th, 2005, 4:32 pm

Evidence points to frame-up in Tookie Williams case
By Clive Leeman


If Stanley Tookie Williams is executed on Tuesday, Dec. 13, poisoned to death by the State of California, his fame will have doomed him. We may well have killed an innocent man without even realizing it.

On the other hand, if California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger grants clemency to Mr. Williams because he has rehabilitated himself, his fame will have saved him, and the crucial question of his innocence will simply fade away.

At a time when more and more Americans are turning against the death penalty because of increasing evidence that innocent people have been executed, we have allowed ourselves to be so bedazzled by the celebrity hype surrounding the Tookie Williams case that one important truth has been ignored: Stanley Williams may be innocent of the crimes for which he was convicted.

Was he truly proven "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt"? A careful reading of Attorney Verna Wefald’s 88-page appeal to the California Supreme Court to reopen the case strongly suggests that Tookie was framed and railroaded in a trial riddled with inconsistencies, contradictions, lack of physical evidence and false stories spun by a parade of informers trying to save their own necks.

As a founder of the Crips gang, he was assumed to be guilty before he was even charged with four murders. He was "The Black Man Rampant," "The Black Bogeyman" and "The Bigger Thomas of South Central Los Angeles." He was convicted by his notoriety, not by the evidence.


According to Atty. Wefald and federal courts that reviewed Williams' case, Williams' 1981 trial for the murder of Albert Owens, a convenience store clerk in Whittier, and Los Angeles motel owners Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shaic Yang and their daughter Yee Chen Lin, was based on flimsy circumstantial evidence; the fabricated testimony of five informants having "incentives to lie in order to obtain leniency from the state...." (according to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals); and the perjury of at least one police officer.

Physical evidence such as fingerprints and a bloody boot-print could not be traced to Stanley Williams.


Only one shotgun shell was found at the motel. It ostensibly came from a shotgun purchased legally five years before by Mr. Williams, but the gun itself was actually found under the bed of informants James Garrett and his wife Ester. The Browning shotgun shell was sold at only two local stores, one of which, a Big Five, had been robbed of guns and ammunition by Mr. Garrett the year before.

The Garretts were both being investigated for the murder of their crime partner, Gregory Wilbon. This investigation was dropped, according to Atty. Wefald, after they testified that Mr. Williams "volunteered" a confession to them.

Deputy Gilbert Gwaltney perjured himself when he supported Mr. Garrett, by testifying that the informant had a sound alibi at the time his crime partner Wilbon was murdered. Mr. Wilbon's body was so badly decomposed, Mr. Williams' lawyers write, that it was impossible to establish a time of death and thus impossible to establish an alibi.

Another informant also claimed that Stanley Williams had "volunteered" a confession to him—but only after a police officer had left the police file on Mr. Williams overnight in the informant's cell for him to read before he testified the next day, according to Atty. Wefald.

The prosecutor, who had already been censured twice by the California Supreme Court for discriminatory behavior, threw three Black people off the jury, leaving a majority-White jury with few or no Blacks (at least one juror's racial identity is in dispute).

Atty. Wefald's appeal was turned down by the California Supreme Court on Nov. 30 by a 4-2 vote. This is not uncommon, especially in cases that do not involve DNA evidence.

Every appeal to the California Supreme Court made by wrongfully convicted prisoner Gloria Killean was routinely denied for 16 years, until a federal court overturned her life sentence. And Thomas Goldstein filed repeated appeals to the court for 24 years before being exonerated by a federal court.

And the California Supreme Court’s divided vote "indicates the seriousness of the issues that were raised by the motion," Mr. Williams’ attorney Jonathan Harris said.

But the railroading never ceases. The moment the Dec. 13 execution date was announced in November, authorities rushed Mr. Williams to the holding cell next to the death chamber, three weeks before the usual holding period begins.


Now, the ultimate humiliation is being required of Tookie Williams. Like the innocent women at the Salem witch trials, he is being told he should confess in order to save his own life, a Catch-22 if ever there was one. This he refuses to do. He says he will not compromise his dignity and integrity, the most powerful and precious forces in his life today. :!: :!:

One of the most compelling arguments against the death penalty is that we inevitably kill innocent people. Britain abolished capital punishment in 1965 after Timothy Evans, hanged for strangling his young daughter, was later found to be innocent.

Now, new developments like DNA evidence are leading to the release of significant numbers of innocent people from death rows and prisons across the United States, and support for the death penalty is steadily declining.

In 2000, the same year that Illinois Governor George Ryan declared a moratorium on executions in his state, a California Field Poll showed that 73 percent of Californians supported a similar moratorium. The number is probably higher today.

Instead of spending hours agonizing over Tookie Williams' fate (and his own political future), Gov. Schwarzenegger should do the right thing and suspend the executions of all 637 death row inmates immediately.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » December 8th, 2005, 5:51 pm

Thanks for posting this.

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Victim pictures do not match witness statements and Patholog

Unread post by tula2020 » December 11th, 2005, 2:28 am

At the 7-11 store, Mr. Owens was shot in the back flat on the ground according to the witnesses. The blood trail wounds indicate he was bleeding to one side as those he were laying on his side. The upper back chest wound bleeds to one side instead of pooling and draining down the small of the back. The bottom back wound is to one side of the spine. The blood wound trail flows in the other direction and pools in the small of the back. Mr. Owens was lying on one side. Somebody layed the body flat on his face. The witnesses testfied Mr. Owens was flat on his back. Blood flows down hill and leaves a trail.[img]

Tsai I Shai Tailbone picture looks like a classic bedsore. The tailbone is clearly visible. A shotgun blast would have pulverized the tailbone and the wadding would been deep into the flesh. The wadding was found underneath the skin. Older people tend to develop bedsores if they do not change positions every two hours. If an elderly person does not change positions for two hours the skin at bone protrusion starts to die. The Pathologist planted a wadding underneath the skin to disguise the bedsore as a shotgun blast.[img]

I believe the pathologist planted evidence and the police forced the witnesses to testify to say Tookie shot the 7-11 Clerk while he was lying flat on his back. Mr. Ownes was lying on his side as indicated by the blood flow. Tookie has been framed.[/img]

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Unread post by Christina Marie » December 11th, 2005, 3:23 am

What are you a coroner or a crime scene investigator? I have been a caregiver for years and I have NEVER seen a bed sore that looked like that.

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Tailbone wound.

Unread post by tula2020 » December 11th, 2005, 12:58 pm

Everybody is talking about evidence and how it is the prosecutors responsibilitiy to clear Tookie. Somebody needs to pay an expert witness to look at the evidence then submit there results to the court. The only thing available to the public is what the prosecutor presents. Unfortunately, if one wants justice one has to pull out the cash and buy a legal dream team with expert witnesses. Who is going to pay for an expert witness for Tookie. I do not have the money.

If you look at Yen I Yang's left arm, the shotgun blast broke the arm off. A shotgun blast to the tailbone would have easily snapped it off. Why is there and exposed tailbone? The shotgun wadding was underneath the skin. The shotgun wadding for Yen I Yang penetrated all the way to his liver.

Yee Chin Len was hit with two shotgun blast not one. There is a scatter pattern on her face. Someone shot her at around 25 feet away. When I was preparing to hunt deer I was using a 20 gauge firing at clay birds about 50 feet away. I expended 500 shells to become somewaht proficient. One has to aim and lead the bird. The killer came in closer hit her with another shotgun blast and her face fell off.

One must question reality and question the experts and the evidence presented. What does the court really want to see? Just because I have different color skin means I should let somebody go. The judges want to hear the coroners report was bogus and they can grant a stay of execution. My plan is question the evidence. Other people might have another plan. What do the judges want to hear?

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Unread post by Christina Marie » December 11th, 2005, 1:09 pm

All the theoretical ^ stuff aside, I also believed Tookie was framed.

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Unread post by ChrisF202 » December 11th, 2005, 6:37 pm

Dont matter, he still deserves to die. He created one of the most violent gangs in history.

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Unread post by L Grindin » December 11th, 2005, 10:24 pm

crstnamre wrote:All the theoretical ^ stuff aside, I also believed Tookie was framed.
And it's sad that it isn't unreasonable to believe that a non-Black/mostly White jury in Torrance in the early 1980's would convict a muscular Black man who could've been innocent; Black folks still get treated unfairly at the Torrance court!

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Unread post by 'X' » December 11th, 2005, 10:52 pm

L Grindin wrote:
And it's sad that it isn't unreasonable to believe that a non-Black/mostly White jury in Torrance in the early 1980's would convict a muscular Black man who could've been innocent; Black folks still get treated unfairly at the Torrance court![/quote]


That's real right there, and same for Brown folk too...
Torrance court ain't no joke...

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Unread post by L Grindin » December 11th, 2005, 11:18 pm

X wrote:
L Grindin wrote:And it's sad that it isn't unreasonable to believe that a non-Black/mostly White jury in Torrance in the early 1980's would convict a muscular Black man who could've been innocent; Black folks still get treated unfairly at the Torrance court!
That's real right there, and same for Brown folk too...
Torrance court ain't no joke...
Torrance Court = Simi Valley of the South Bay! Whatever the police say, the judges and jury believe.

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Unread post by 'X' » December 11th, 2005, 11:38 pm

L Grindin wrote:
X wrote:
L Grindin wrote:And it's sad that it isn't unreasonable to believe that a non-Black/mostly White jury in Torrance in the early 1980's would convict a muscular Black man who could've been innocent; Black folks still get treated unfairly at the Torrance court!
That's real right there, and same for Brown folk too...
Torrance court ain't no joke...
Torrance Court = Simi Valley of the South Bay! Whatever the police say, the judges and jury believe.

lol...and can you imagine if it's crazy now, how it had to be back then? :shock:

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Unread post by kingterp » December 12th, 2005, 12:15 am

Why cant Tookie get any Justices im getting very mad right now this shit ant right if they let him die im going off

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Unread post by 'X' » December 12th, 2006, 9:49 pm

RIP

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Re: Evidence points to frame-up in Tookie Williams case

Unread post by PrinceTheReal » August 17th, 2011, 1:42 pm

all im askin is did he do it or not??

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Unread post by shing » August 19th, 2011, 2:15 pm

[quote="PrinceTheReal"]all im askin is did he do it or not??[/quote]
Yes he did. He showed the world that the crippin lifestyle is too shoot defenseless old chinese ladies.

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Unread post by PrinceTheReal » August 21st, 2011, 4:22 pm

why wouldnt he admit it though?

he would have got clemency if he admitted he was wrong and a changed man.

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