5 families administration-predictions

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This is to have everyones prediction of the administration of the five families. As of present. Thewestside- i want your predictions. your not allowed to cheat me on this. my topic-my rules. damn fcking straight.

1-boss/acting/streetboss
2-underboss
3-consiglieri


Bonanno-
Vinny Asaro
Jerry Asaro
Tony Rabito


Colombo-
Billy Russo
Donnie Shacks Montemmerano (totally took a shot on that last name)
Joe Tomasello


Gambino-
Dom Cefalu
Dom Cefalu (cousin)
John Gambino/maybe jackie nose


Genovese-
Matty Iannello/Dom Cirillo/Larry Dentico/
Barney Bellomo-1
Ernie boy Muscerella-2
Allie shades Malangalone-3


Lucchese-
Stevie wonder Crea
Joe Dinapoli
Neil Migliore

I hear Dom Cefalu, the cousin, isnt a zip at all. And i cant see john gambino wanting the #3 spot. I wouldnt doubt for a minute he would fill it though. If hes asked to do something by the boss he wouldnt say no- thats how all those old timers are, thats why dom is there. nicky and danny may be f-ing powerful but they arent old school gangsters. their from the new school even if they are 70-80. They coulda stepped up, they probably have been asked to, but they didnt. Real old school guys wouldve stepped up if asked.

I think barney runs the westside but will listen to the guidence of a couple older guys. Benny Eggs if he isnt old and completely senile yet.

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In some cases we don't need to make predictions. According to the FBI, this is how the Gambinos, Luccheses, and Colombos currently look -

Gambino
Boss: Domenico "Italian Dom" Cefalu/64
UnderBoss: Arnold "Zeke/Bozey" Squitieri/76
Consigliere: Bartolomeo "Bobby/Pepe" Vernace/62 (UI/IP)

Lucchese
Boss: Steven "Stevie Wonder" Crea/64
UnderBoss: ?????
Consigliere: Joseph "Joe C" Caridi/63

Colombo
Boss: Carmine "Junior/The Snake" Persico/78 (IP/L)
UnderBoss: John "Sonny" Franzese/94 (IP/6/25/2017)
Acting UnderBoss: Dominic "Donny Shacks" Montemarano/73
Consigliere: Richard “Ritchie Nerves” Fusco/75 (IP)


The Genovese are hard to read, as usual. An article in 2009 said the family was being run by a "rotating panel" of high-level members recently released from prison; including Benny Mangano, Barney Bellomo, Ernie Muscarella, and Larry Dentico. When Tino Fiumara died the following year, another article said he had been on a 3 man ruling panel running the family. It wouldn't surprise me if the other two guys included some of those others above. These West Side guys just seem to keep going and going. So older ones like Benny Eggs and Little Larry could still be helping to run things but a safer bet would be relatively younger guys like Barney and Ernie. Especially since most of the acting bosses in recent years have come from that crew.


The Bonannos? Hell, I don't know. They're the only NY family at the moment where there isn't a single guy known in the current administration. Of course, that's because their last official boss and underboss flipped. And Graziano is now a captain. And their latest acting boss was recently indicted. Looking at the captains not currently in prison or under indictment, I can see guys like Jerry Asaro and Anthony Rabito being on a panel.

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About the bonannos, i picked queens guys bc i see that brooklyn guys are all getting arrested. All i can think of that would be left is joe c and sal catalano. And joe c doesnt have enough respect to be boss. For the colombos, the only guy on ur list whos on the street is donnie shacks. Sal Fusco could be the new #3. for the gambinos-all those guys under dom were what the fbi had for peter gottis time on top. dont you think it wouldve been switched up a little? Isnt Squitieri on supervised release? i find it hard to believe that an old time sicilian will trust someone who isnt close that close to him. bobby glasses was a gotti guy, "zeke" was a bronx guy. I mean they coulda been penpals but shit, other than meetings dom wouldnt have known him imo. Joe Caridi is not a bronx guy steve crea is not gonna have a guy like that being his 3. i think joe c is an old amuso soldier, but he was pegged as the consiglieri a while back and theyve probably changed since.

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for the gambinos-all those guys under dom were what the fbi had for peter gottis time on top. dont you think it wouldve been switched up a little? Isnt Squitieri on supervised release? i find it hard to believe that an old time sicilian will trust someone who isnt close that close to him. bobby glasses was a gotti guy, "zeke" was a bronx guy. I mean they coulda been penpals but shit, other than meetings dom wouldnt have known him imo.

Joe Caridi is not a bronx guy steve crea is not gonna have a guy like that being his 3. i think joe c is an old amuso soldier, but he was pegged as the consiglieri a while back and theyve probably changed since.

Addressing both the Gambinos and Luccheses above, I don't think it's an insignificant thing for a guy to become boss and then demote other people who are officially in the administration. I'm not saying it can't be done but it could cause problems. As far as we know, Squitieri is the official Gambino underboss. So he could still hold that position while being on supervised release. A while back, Vernace was part of the 3 man ruling panel with Danny Marino and John Gambino. So he apparently has some clout too.

Same thing applies to Crea becoming boss. It may be looked at as a slap in the face to take over and then say, "Sorry, Joe, you're getting demoted." Plus, it may be wise to keep guys from other crews with you in the hierarchy to ensure loyalty. Crea would isolate himself if he insisted on all Bronx guys.

In the end, we can only go with the latest info released by the feds and won't know until the next article or indictment reveals more.

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Straw weight?????? I dont weigh no 115 pounds!! I think i need to be i thewestsides weight class lol. we should go a couple rounds man.. Actually im more of a fatass than a boxer now adays. beer belly to boot. haha.

Back to the actual descussion instead of my fat ass...
I gotta disagree with ya here man. The idea of of an underboss is to be the boss's right hand man, his mouth peice, his enforcer, collector, etc. As im sure you know. both the #2 and #3 are also used to oversee the crews, as well as sit in at major sit downs when to crews are having a beef. this keeps the boss insulated, this reduces his exposure to a small number of people, thus limiting his chances of getting thrown in jail (theoretically, usually doesnt work very well lol). Ill give you an example. When a company buys out another company, theyll usually keep the accountants, the telemarketers, the lowlevel guys but they will change the management. same thing goesin the life. remember this thing of ours (well not ours-theirs)--is a business. Think gf1.... you want to put in a guy who has the respect, a guy who is capable, whos feared-- but more than anything someone you would trust with your life. not someguy your asshole buddies with neccesarily-but you get the point. The #3 guy is usually more of an all round well liked, well respected kindof guy whos put in the work, whos been around the block. Look at Gottis #2 frank deccico. he was a bensonhurst guy just like sammy. but sammy was manipulative and scared john imo. everyone iv talked to always said that sammy was only in that spot bc john wanted to keep an eye on him. sammy was not loyal, he was a greedy sob. Frank d was a well respected capo from castellanos time, a guy who could keep his mouth shut that he was involved with the castellano hit and a guy who could keep the old castellano regime loyal to gotti. Even frankie loc was put in as the consiglieiri bc he was friends with john. Another example-when ducks took over from lucchese and gribbs, he appointed guys like paul vario- who he grew up with as his #2. the vario crew got busted, he put tom mix in there-another friend.

Theres no doubt zeke has juice. he was acting boss at one time, no doubt all the bronx guys are behind him. the thing is most of those guys are in jail. depalma, megale, funzi, nick mita. he could still be underboss. in fact, from everything iv heard about him, he would take it in a second. But he is on supervised release. Associatiing with known felons is grounds for being sent back to prison. Every captain in the gambinos is a felon or would be considered an "undesirable". IMO someone else is holding on to the spot till his 3 yrs is up. glasses though? i think hes awaiting trial, even if he was the consiglieri then id say he aint no more. look for a cefalu, a gambino, or a mannino to fill one of the admin spots for that family. spoils of victory-put who you want where you want.

As to joe c, if crea wanted to choose a guy from queens which, your right i think he will bc it will spread out his influence. it wouldnt be joe c-it would be neil migliori. all the amuso guys have been losin power since gaspipe flipped. crea has made sure that amuso guys have been out of power, he took most of danny cuatias crew and split it up among big joe and dom truscello. i personally think he will have to answer to whoever his son and soninlaw answer to (idk). but this is an example of crea keeping his guys in power. Danny lost his unions, his crew, everything basically bc he posed a threat. he was an amuso guy all the way. he was brought up with little al and the rest of those bensonhurst guys. I do not know for sure who is what or where but id be willing to bet money that neil is in the administration.

Appreciate the response buddy

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Well technically danny came up under paul vario but you know what i mean. he was an amuso guy. he passe messages back and forth.

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I'm not sure the company buyout analogy holds because people within a crime family are all part of the same company.

Going back to Gotti is, what? 20-25 years ago now? Tony Ducks even further back. What you describe is more the traditional roles of the people in the administration. How we've understood them to be in the past.

First, if you look at, say, the last 10-15 years, the traditional administration of a boss, underboss, and consigliere has been used less and less; due to the fact that they're so often in prison. Acting bosses and ruling panels have been the new norm. And only recently,in the last few years, have we seen some of the families attempt to install a more traditional set up again.

Second, even when a traditional administration is used, it often isn't along the same lines as it used to be. It seems it's much more about inter-family politics than the boss picking his right-hand man to be his underboss. Or them picking a widely popular, older, semi-retired member as consigliere. The guys in the administration, as well as captains, also seem to be more directly involved in the actual crimes of the family than we've traditionally assumed.

It's also important to remember that a guy can retain an official position even if he's in prison or on parole. Which is why they often have other guys acting for them. So it's not like Zeke has had to give up his position as underboss just because he's been in prison or is now on supervised release.

As for Migliore, people here on the forums have floated his name for a long time now. He was the only guy on the 3 man ruling panel who wasn't arrested back in 2007.

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Yeah i agree with you about how theyve made their admins different over time. And your right most of this shit is politics of a handfew of old men. regardless of all the shit you and i may pick up-johnny likes joe, mike hates lou... we wont know unless it comes out in the paper or we get our buttons.(i wonder whos crew you would report to out where you are haha) But hey, thats why these are just guesses right?

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Yeah i agree with you about how theyve made their admins different over time. And your right most of this shit is politics of a handfew of old men. regardless of all the shit you and i may pick up-johnny likes joe, mike hates lou... we wont know unless it comes out in the paper or we get our buttons.(i wonder whos crew you would report to out where you are haha) But hey, thats why these are just guesses right?

And that's the thing. Each time there's a bust, guys on the forums rush to start predicting who will fill this slot or that slot. I'm content to wait until we get official information.

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Some recent article in the dnews about your man bobby glasses. The article had something about gambino sicilian connections. It said frank cali and glasses were captains. So id like to think i had good info when it came to cali having his own crew and glasses being just a captain.

But im still stumped in a couple areas. i read here or sonewhere cali reported to jackie nose and was an acting capo along with erny grillo. Now i was under the impression both these guys were skippers in there own right. I like to think my friendds wouldnt BS me for the hell of it but then again everyone makes mistakes... Did these guys report to jackie nose back in the day or what? Back to the original topic.could jackie nose be considered for sayconsiglieri? I know he never really put in the work but he is a great fucking politician. And isnt glasses from old palermo or have i dropped on my head again lol...

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Some recent article in the dnews about your man bobby glasses. The article had something about gambino sicilian connections. It said frank cali and glasses were captains. So id like to think i had good info when it came to cali having his own crew and glasses being just a captain.

But im still stumped in a couple areas. i read here or sonewhere cali reported to jackie nose and was an acting capo along with erny grillo. Now i was under the impression both these guys were skippers in there own right. I like to think my friendds wouldnt BS me for the hell of it but then again everyone makes mistakes... Did these guys report to jackie nose back in the day or what? Back to the original topic.could jackie nose be considered for sayconsiglieri? I know he never really put in the work but he is a great #%@&#%@ politician. And isnt glasses from old palermo or have i dropped on my head again lol...

If you have both, always go with an indictment over a news article. Vernace was a captain who was on the ruling panel with Danny Marino and John Gambino. But more recent info (from Capeci, if I remember right) is that he is now the official consigliere. Cali became acting captain over D'Amico's crew when Jackie D'Amico became acting boss.

This stuff is followed pretty closely over on the Real Deal, where charts are always being updated. Sooner or later, we'll get you over there...

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Jesus iv been outta this place for weeks... workin hard/hardly workin..haha. You know how it goes... Just tryin not to get my fatass shot by a bunch of eggplants during my route. recently herd from a guy whos recently done some state time kept talking about dom truscello. According to him truscello is the underboss or acting boss for stevie wonder. he did hard time with tony black croce upstate somewhere. this guy did time for pistol whipping this faggot hipster fuvk after he grabbed his ass in rebar one night. Guy pulled out a 38 and clocked the fucker out cold lol. Wish i coulda been there, but i mightve gotten into the mix as well. Last thing i need is a violent felony.... Anyways i trust the guy and i know tony black came up at the same time as truscello. Someone once said said which crew he came from but ill be goddamned if i know for sure. Some old uptown crew in that family, started big as a dealer then worked his way into unions like other uptown soldiers. i want to say hes was in a differentcrew from joe d but i cant recal. Shit my dad might know more he could be a better historian than selywn raab. Just yhought youd like to know and get yours opinion.

The nypd busted a afterhoursclub/casino here in astoria two days agO. i can state for a fact thw owner was a connected guy-been around lou parisi since noah and the flood. Im a little surpised it hasnt been in the news but no one probably knew it was run by a connected guy. His last name was cheshire lol thats why it didnt make headlines. I liked the place actually-it took up the 2nd story above a 7-11. One of the last places to play roullette in the city that i knew of. Guy brought in some dough though-full bar, poker tables, one 21 game, a whole bedroom devoted to poker machines lol. Never any chicks there except for the bartender tho.

Well in other news i heard of benny eggs is in the hospital in bad condition. Doubt the guy gives a fuck about the life at this point,just wants to go his own way and make his peace.

Me brother said there was a bookie who was with the genovese busted today in greenpoint/wburg. You seen anything about this. Brother said it was part of a big sting going upstate.i havent seen jack shit in the dnews so far but ill let you guys know.

David email u yet btw?

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Jesus iv been outta this place for weeks... workin hard/hardly workin..haha. You know how it goes... Just tryin not to get my fatass shot by a bunch of eggplants during my route. recently herd from a guy whos recently done some state time kept talking about dom truscello. According to him truscello is the underboss or acting boss for stevie wonder. he did hard time with tony black croce upstate somewhere. this guy did time for pistol whipping this faggot hipster fuvk after he grabbed his ass in rebar one night. Guy pulled out a 38 and clocked the fucker out cold lol. Wish i coulda been there, but i mightve gotten into the mix as well. Last thing i need is a violent felony.... Anyways i trust the guy and i know tony black came up at the same time as truscello. Someone once said said which crew he came from but ill be goddamned if i know for sure. Some old uptown crew in that family, started big as a dealer then worked his way into unions like other uptown soldiers. i want to say hes was in a differentcrew from joe d but i cant recal. Shit my dad might know more he could be a better historian than selywn raab. Just yhought youd like to know and get yours opinion.

The nypd busted a afterhoursclub/casino here in astoria two days agO. i can state for a fact thw owner was a connected guy-been around lou parisi since noah and the flood. Im a little surpised it hasnt been in the news but no one probably knew it was run by a connected guy. His last name was cheshire lol thats why it didnt make headlines. I liked the place actually-it took up the 2nd story above a 7-11. One of the last places to play roullette in the city that i knew of. Guy brought in some dough though-full bar, poker tables, one 21 game, a whole bedroom devoted to poker machines lol. Never any chicks there except for the bartender tho.

Well in other news i heard of benny eggs is in the hospital in bad condition. Doubt the guy gives a fu-- about the life at this point,just wants to go his own way and make his peace.

Me brother said there was a bookie who was with the genovese busted today in greenpoint/wburg. You seen anything about this. Brother said it was part of a big sting going upstate.i havent seen jack shit in the dnews so far but ill let you guys know.

David email u yet btw?

Hey, sticks, good to see you're still around.

Yeah, I haven't seen anything on the news about that Queens gambling bust. Must have been a local cops thing since there's nothing on the Queens the website either. Keep me updated if you hear anything else.

That gambling bust yesterday was up in Connecticut and was actually a Gambino operation. Involved 20 people including Gambino associates Dean "The Kid" DePreta, Richard "Big Baldy" Uva, Thomas "Little T" Uva, Douglas "Chubby" Corbin, and Joseph "Pizza Joe" Borea.

As far as David goes, here's the deal. I sent him a PM asking what was up and he sent a PM back saying there is no new members at the present time. Now, I know for a fact that he said he was going to make an exception in your case but it looks like he's changed his mind. I really have no idea why and he's not saying. If I were to theorize, it could be making an exception for one person could open up a can of worms, but I really don't know. Since there's several people that want to sign up for the forum, I've asked him when new members will be accepted again and he says he doesn't know. Well, since he's the administrator of the board, he'd be the only guy who would know. So I take that as David hasn't made up his mind when to "open the books" again. It's kind of strange but I don't want to pester him too much.

There was actually a recent thread on the forum similar to this one. I'm going to pass along what you said. Your input will no doubt start some additional conversation and maybe it will speed you up joining the forum.

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The booke in bk goes by tony/anthony santora u could google him but theres a lotta anthony santoras in ny lol. The guys just an agent but hes on the record with the westside. He co-owns a bagel shop off of metro.

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The booke in bk goes by tony/anthony santora u could google him but theres a lotta anthony santoras in ny lol. The guys just an agent but hes on the record with the westside. He co-owns a bagel shop off of metro.

So we've got a gambling bust in Queens a few days ago. You mentioned the guy was connected to Lou Parisi. Which family is that?

And there was another gambling bust in Brooklyn a few days ago involving a Genovese-connected guy named Tony Santora?

Haven't been able to find anything on the web yet but I passed the info along on the RD.

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Lou parisi is a gambino guy from the bronx. Old guy-70s i think. Im not gonna say anything about the guy who is matty cheshires partner. Nothin personal I hope you can understand why. Hes an older guy to- actually a real hvyweight who ran with mike generoso back in the days. sr i mean. Gamvling busts go unmentioned a lot. if its not mob related ppl dont give to shits. Matt is already out on bail all they charged him with was gambling tools or instruments or watever the fuck. to give him a felony theyd need evidence of him bringing in a certain amount a night. And they cant do that without uc's or informants. I nwver liked tony really. He was known to stiff people on big wins.not me tho. ive probly got 5-6 friends alwayas asking to take my action but i nevver do it. Lol. i put action with the same guy who my dad played with since he woeked at hunts point. Real gentleman-great guy woulnt harm a fly and he gets paid every penny owed to him-outta respect. This guy will give yous the shirt off his back. Love the old guy!! Have a goodone bro. its about 1 or something and i spent all my spending money so shit. Wellanyways keep me updated with any of this new stuff yous hear over on that forum since i wount be goin anytime soon hahaha.)

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Lou parisi is a gambino guy from the bronx. Old guy-70s i think. Im not gonna say anything about the guy who is matty cheshires partner. Nothin personal I hope you can understand why. Hes an older guy to- actually a real hvyweight who ran with mike generoso back in the days. sr i mean. Gamvling busts go unmentioned a lot. if its not mob related ppl dont give to shits. Matt is already out on bail all they charged him with was gambling tools or instruments or watever the fu--. to give him a felony theyd need evidence of him bringing in a certain amount a night. And they cant do that without uc's or informants. I nwver liked tony really. He was known to stiff people on big wins.not me tho. ive probly got 5-6 friends alwayas asking to take my action but i nevver do it. Lol. i put action with the same guy who my dad played with since he woeked at hunts point. Real gentleman-great guy woulnt harm a fly and he gets paid every penny owed to him-outta respect. This guy will give yous the shirt off his back. Love the old guy!! Have a goodone bro. its about 1 or something and i spent all my spending money so shit. Wellanyways keep me updated with any of this new stuff yous hear over on that forum since i wount be goin anytime soon hahaha.)

I'm confused now...

The nypd busted a afterhoursclub/casino here in astoria two days agO. i can state for a fact thw owner was a connected guy-been around lou parisi since noah and the flood. Im a little surpised it hasnt been in the news but no one probably knew it was run by a connected guy. His last name was cheshire lol thats why it didnt make headlines. I liked the place actually-it took up the 2nd story above a 7-11. One of the last places to play roullette in the city that i knew of. Guy brought in some dough though-full bar, poker tables, one 21 game, a whole bedroom devoted to poker machines lol. Never any chicks there except for the bartender tho.

Above it seems you were saying the owner of the after hours club/casino in Astoria was a connected guy (named Cheshire) who is around an old Gambino guy from the Bronx named Lou Parisi.

Lou parisi is a gambino guy from the bronx. Old guy-70s i think. Im not gonna say anything about the guy who is matty cheshires partner. Nothin personal I hope you can understand why. Hes an older guy to- actually a real hvyweight who ran with mike generoso back in the days. sr i mean. Gamvling busts go unmentioned a lot. if its not mob related ppl dont give to shits. Matt is already out on bail all they charged him with was gambling tools or instruments or watever the fu--. to give him a felony theyd need evidence of him bringing in a certain amount a night. And they cant do that without uc's or informants. I nwver liked tony really. He was known to stiff people on big wins.not me tho. ive probly got 5-6 friends alwayas asking to take my action but i nevver do it. Lol. i put action with the same guy who my dad played with since he woeked at hunts point. Real gentleman-great guy woulnt harm a fly and he gets paid every penny owed to him-outta respect. This guy will give yous the shirt off his back. Love the old guy!! Have a goodone bro. its about 1 or something and i spent all my spending money so shit. Wellanyways keep me updated with any of this new stuff yous hear over on that forum since i wount be goin anytime soon hahaha.)

But here you seem to be indicating that the guy who Matty Cheshire is with - and I can only assume it's the same Cheshire from up above - is with a Genovese guy who was around Matty Generoso back in the day. And I thought the Genovese related bookmaking bust was in Brooklyn and upstate?

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Sorry i get a litle confused myself sometimes. When it comes to a game other than poker-21,craps,video poker-the guy who runs it needs to have cash on hand. Most guys dont havethe bankroll to back a big room like this one. He probably needed 20-30k up front snd instead of takin the risk with a juice loan from this guy,he made him his partner. This guys an old timer around the generoso crew. hes his bankroll for half the biz. Cheshire takes the heat and this guy collects his half. Now matty was an sheetholder around lou parisi since he was 20. Lou tho-isnt exactly tommy gambino lol. Hes never been more than half a bookie. Lous book is bankrolled from another made guy. lous never had any money but has territorial rights to matt even if the biz is not with him.

Anthony was part of that gambino sting in conn. I found his name listed as one of the arrested. Take my word tho tonys with angie castoricci of thewestside.
But yeah sorry bout the mixup i had quite a bag on lastnight and its hard to type on my iphone. If you got any questions tho feel free to ask man.

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Sorry i get a litle confused myself sometimes. When it comes to a game other than poker-21,craps,video poker-the guy who runs it needs to have cash on hand. Most guys dont havethe bankroll to back a big room like this one. He probably needed 20-30k up front snd instead of takin the risk with a juice loan from this guy,he made him his partner. This guys an old timer around the generoso crew. hes his bankroll for half the biz. Cheshire takes the heat and this guy collects his half. Now matty was an sheetholder around lou parisi since he was 20. Lou tho-isnt exactly tommy gambino lol. Hes never been more than half a bookie. Lous book is bankrolled from another made guy. lous never had any money but has territorial rights to matt even if the biz is not with him.

Anthony was part of that gambino sting in conn. I found his name listed as one of the arrested. Take my word tho tonys with angie castoricci of thewestside.
But yeah sorry bout the mixup i had quite a bag on lastnight and its hard to type on my iphone. If you got any questions tho feel free to ask man.

Sorry for being such a pain. I'm just trying to get this straight. Maybe you would be able to explain things better on a computer rather than your IPhone?

1. This Cheshire guy was the one with the after hours club in Astoria that got raided. And he's around an old guy from the Generoso crew.
Old timer from Generoso crew

2. Lou Parisi is a made Gambino guy, but his book is bankrolled by another Gambino member. And Matty is a sheetholder for Parisi's book.

3. I assume the "Anthony" you're talking about is Anthony "Skinny" Santoro, 48, of Williamsburg, N.Y., who was one of the guys listed in the recent Gambino bust. But you're saying he's actually with a guy named Angelo Castoricci of the Genovese family?

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Haha a computer would help but so would being sober...it was 1 on a friday buddy.. What do you expect from a upstanding citizen such as myself lol??

1. Yes
2. Yes partly. Matt Cheshire was not arrested on bookmaking charges tho. He got charged with some misdemeanor gambling charge as did 3 others who worked for him. He'll probably plead guilty next week and get some probation. Hes no a felon. The point of busting these places is basically to shut it down. Matt did take action there and he did before he opened the place a couple months ago. Lou doesnot have the kind of cash to bankroll all that videoppoker, weekend blackjack, liquor, tvs, furniture, rent deposits, excettera. So he went to a guy on long island near where he grew up. The place was kind of strange actually-most poker rooms dont serve booze and definatly dont sell it. And this place catered to the kind of local coke snorting hipsters who were all pussys at heart but let their hair down and tried to act tough. Not a wiseguy hangout or even a wannabe wiseguy hangout. more like a hipster/yuppie/junkie/degenerate/douchebag hangout. No girls in there. Ever. . Yeah thats why i never went more than a few times. haha.

3. This sounds right. He co-owned the bagel store of metropolitan ave.

A friend of mine blogs about poker. Some of his older posts include like yelp type reviews of underground poker rooms lol. Kind of like im doing hahaha. Ill get the link. http://ftrain.blogspot.com an examle is. http://ftrain.blogspot.com/2005/04/new- ... upper.html He reviewed a club i once worked at. This is just to show you these things can go unoticed very easily. and several are mob protected or bankrolled.

And ur not a pain i enjoy this shit man fire away if u got more.

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Haha a computer would help but so would being sober...it was 1 on a friday buddy.. What do you expect from a upstanding citizen such as myself lol??

1. Yes
2. Yes partly. Matt Cheshire was not arrested on bookmaking charges tho. He got charged with some misdemeanor gambling charge as did 3 others who worked for him. He'll probably plead guilty next week and get some probation. Hes no a felon. The point of busting these places is basically to shut it down. Matt did take action there and he did before he opened the place a couple months ago. Lou doesnot have the kind of cash to bankroll all that videoppoker, weekend blackjack, liquor, tvs, furniture, rent deposits, excettera. So he went to a guy on long island near where he grew up. The place was kind of strange actually-most poker rooms dont serve booze and definatly dont sell it. And this place catered to the kind of local coke snorting hipsters who were all pussys at heart but let their hair down and tried to act tough. Not a wiseguy hangout or even a wannabe wiseguy hangout. more like a hipster/yuppie/junkie/degenerate/douchebag hangout. No girls in there. Ever. . Yeah thats why i never went more than a few times. haha.

3. This sounds right. He co-owned the bagel store of metropolitan ave.

A friend of mine blogs about poker. Some of his older posts include like yelp type reviews of underground poker rooms lol. Kind of like im doing hahaha. Ill get the link. http://ftrain.blogspot.com an examle is. http://ftrain.blogspot.com/2005/04/new- ... upper.html He reviewed a club i once worked at. This is just to show you these things can go unoticed very easily. and several are mob protected or bankrolled.

And ur not a pain i enjoy this shit man fire away if u got more.

OK, I think I'm starting to get it now. Like I said, I've posted what you said over on the RD. There's a lot of people who live in your neck of the woods so hopefully these names will ring some bells. I'd except more input by Monday since a lot of posters are gone during the weekend.

So far, there's been some initial skepticism. Don't take it personally. It's just how people are (and should be) on the internet. One poster over there says Benny Eggs is not in the hospital. Another poster thinks there would be something in the news about the raid of the after hours club. And he says he knows of a Tony Castoricci, but he's with the Colombos.

This really would be a lot easier if David would just let you sign up. To be honest, I'm a little peeved about it all. I tell him about you, he says he will make an exception in your case and let you in, you try several times to contact him, and then nothing. And more nothing. And more nothing.

Finally he gets back to me and simply says, "No new members." No explanation beyond that. Well, it's his board and he's the boss, but I can't be blamed for thinking, "What the hell?" And, in the meantime, I have to play middleman here.

[thewestside]

By the way, I've posted the link to this thread over on the RD so anyone who's interested can read all this directly.

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Yeah buddy no problem im no bapist preacher my word aint the gospel but everyones got their own opinions. To benny eggs-just what i heard. I dont know him personally and all the guys friends from back in the day arent alive anymore either. So if a guy can say different that hes opinion or if he knows for a fact and ill tell my cousin that i heard that from. Keep on mind this is the same guy who i told you the story about so haha. Picture a sicilian ziggy from the wire lol. thats him. Angelo could be related to that tony guy. I dont know him real well. More like know of him if you get my drift.

You should tell those guys to start posting here make this place a little more intresting. Not to put you down or nothing-but so far its just been me and you lol.

[thewestside]

Yeah buddy no problem im no bapist preacher my word aint the gospel but everyones got their own opinions. To benny eggs-just what i heard. I dont know him personally and all the guys friends from back in the day arent alive anymore either. So if a guy can say different that hes opinion or if he knows for a fact and ill tell my cousin that i heard that from. Keep on mind this is the same guy who i told you the story about so haha. Picture a sicilian ziggy from the wire lol. thats him. Angelo could be related to that tony guy. I dont know him real well. More like know of him if you get my drift.

You should tell those guys to start posting here make this place a little more intresting. Not to put you down or nothing-but so far its just been me and you lol.

Nah, the best thing would to just bring you over there. This board is a lost cause. We need to get you on the Real Deal.

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Dont let that alonso fella hear that-i saw him on tv once.

[thewestside]

Dont let that alonso fella hear that-i saw him on tv once.

Well, I've said it before. For all I know, other parts of this forum may be hopping. But the organized crime section is about dead. Which is why it would be better to bring you over to the Real Deal - the best OC forum on the web - rather than bring people over here or have me continue to play middle man back and forth.

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Damn its been awhile since i was here-unless you count that last post lol. I swear that wasnt melol. The only acceptable explanation coulda been that i was smoking wet or some shit.

Anywaysss. in light of current events ill redeem my streetgang reputation with another post haha.

The administrations i will never know for certain but i believe my sources are pretty credible. If yous got a question ask away.

Luccheses have crea up top, dom truscello and ant santorelli from the bronx as consig.
Bonnanos got a panel of joe saunders, rabito and (either tony black or lou electric) total guess
Genovese---no fucking idea
gambinos-u were right from wat i hear from a nypd deu detective.dom,zeke,then glasses. To talk to zeke you have to go thru funzi. To get to dom you have to go thru ricky his brother. To get to john gambino you have to go to dom ceffalu. But thats just an opinion.
Colombos-bill russo,d shacks and joe t

How you been pal?

[thewestside]

Damn its been awhile since i was here-unless you count that last post lol. I swear that wasnt melol. The only acceptable explanation coulda been that i was smoking wet or some shit.

Anywaysss. in light of current events ill redeem my streetgang reputation with another post haha.

The administrations i will never know for certain but i believe my sources are pretty credible. If yous got a question ask away.

Luccheses have crea up top, dom truscello and ant santorelli from the bronx as consig.
Bonnanos got a panel of joe saunders, rabito and (either tony black or lou electric) total guess
Genovese---no #%@&#%@ idea
gambinos-u were right from wat i hear from a nypd deu detective.dom,zeke,then glasses. To talk to zeke you have to go thru funzi. To get to dom you have to go thru ricky his brother. To get to john gambino you have to go to dom ceffalu. But thats just an opinion.
Colombos-bill russo,d shacks and joe t

How you been pal?

Good to see you're still around, sticks. And, no, I haven't forgotten about getting you over to the Real Deal. David's still on his never ending European vacation. But I figure it's gotta end eventually.

As to your breakdown of the 5 NY family administrations...

Which of the above is information you got from sources and which are your guesses?

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Luchese and gambinos from a cop. Bonannos was a guess. Colombos my brother. Genovese-my cousin. I mean i just assume its barney but wholl ever know.