Top ten Mexican Mafia snitches

[alexalonso]

- Rene "Boxer" Enriquez is number one by far. He debriefed because he couldn't take an ass whooping that was certainly coming as he gave in the past

- and he goes out of his way to testify against other carnals that has nothing to do with his debriefing, Senon Grajeda, Eulalio "Lalo" Martinez (RIP) are two examples.


- Also Ramon "Mundo" Mendoza for his work on the first RICO and for testifying against Joe Morgan.

Who else?

[Apathetic]

Angel Valencia.

[alexalonso]

Angel Valencia.

I was unaware that Angel Valencia snitched. Do you have any information on that? What case? Who did he testify against?

[Apathetic]

Angel Valencia.

I was unaware that Angel Valencia snitched. Do you have any information on that? What case? Who did he testify against?

Actually I'm not so sure that he snitched but he definitely dropped out and debriefed as stated by Rene Enriquez in The Black Hand. I think it was Enriquez who talked him into it.

[bumperjack]

Angel "stump" Valencia dropped out before Boxer!

[bumperjack]

If you debrief or drop out you have to become a rat period! that part some of you don't understand? Not ever members story is going to be accessable! Angel Stump Valencia is a rat, Snitch, drop out!

[Apathetic]

If you debrief or drop out you have to become a rat period! that part some of you don't understand? Not ever members story is going to be accessable! Angel Stump Valencia is a rat, Snitch, drop out!

What do you mean accessable?

[bumperjack]

Meaning it's not public record. For everyone to see. His debriefing Information from Law enforcement is what I mean by "accessable" When a member of a prison gang debriefs, it's not always accessable to the public.

[Apathetic]

Okay I understand, thanks.

[currygoat]

1. Ramon "Mundo" Mendoza
2. Rene "Boxer" Enriquez
3. Carlos "Pie Face" Ortega: 1st Eme member to break the code of silence. Testified against Gilbert "Shotgun" Sanchez in 1973. Sanchez was aquited.
4. Edward "Sailor Boy" Gonzales
5. Ernesto "Chuco" Castro: Wore a wire to many many high level meetings leading to the life without parole convictions of Benjamin "Topo" Peters, Raymond "Huero Shy" Shyrock, Daniel "Black Dan" Barela, Ruben "Tupi" Hernandez and many others.
6. Angel "Stump" Valenica
7. David "Chino" Del Gadillo
8. Jacques "Jacko" Padilla
9. Luis "Pelon" Marciel: Shot caller of the Mason Road murders.
10. Arthur "Artie" Guzman

[alexalonso]

What about Brothers that actually testified against other Brothers. Angel "Stump" Valencia, Sal Buenrostro and several other have debriefed and some debriefers are clever enough to only provide information that the investigators already know, and yes, that's a form of snitching, but what about the ones that actually provide information for the prosecution? Ernesto "Chuco" Castro from VNE is a good example and so is Ramon "Mundo" Mendoza

[alexalonso]

Ramon "Mundo" Mendoza in younger years. Became an Eme in 1970. He is still living on the low at an undisclosed location in the USA.

[bumperjack]

There is alot of defectors of the eme, even ones incarcerated for life. Two wrongs don't make it right.
The top ten snitches of the eme I believe are "them all" who debrief and defect" no one snitch is above or below any of them.Of you sign up for life and defect or debrief you will be running scared for the rest of your life. I went out with my love & Respects after 26 years in the life.

[razorman55]

I suppose this Top 10 List of Snitches makes for interesting conversation, right up there with people asking which is the baddest prison gang of all time? Agree with Bumperjack's observations when he states "them all" who defect and debrief. The MM certainly does not give out trophies for the "Top 10" or any other category but you have some up there on the "prioritized" green light list. Only the MM knows who they have a historical "hard on" for. Mundo was beloved by many of his OG EME brethren when he was part of their family. Of course that love quickly turned to hate when he unexpectedly went south. When you're that close and trusted and then betray, there is a hurt-turned-to-hate that kicks in and makes it very personal. On the other side of the spectrum was "Boxer" Enriquez who had his EME detractors (for political and other reasons) and is despised mainly by the younger generation since those are primarily the carnales he has hurt/is hurting with his testimony.

"Running scared for the rest of your life." Most of the dropouts we've handled, including snitches and former cartel hit men are no longer in "the life" and these individuals not only pack but many of these people know how to handle situations and, although they do navigate carefully, they do not appear to be scared. In my view, the choice to pull away is very commendable. The consequences for remaining in "the life" certainly outweighed the decision to become a snitch for many. Otherwise they would not have snitched, one would think. Therefore, simply dropping out without snitching (as is apparently the case with you and many others) would appear to be the right road for someone who may wish to reenter the lifestyle? Or is it considered a manly accomplishment of perseverance?

As for a "made" prison gang member who takes the Death Oath to join and participate with his brothers for life with NO WAY OUT except through the cemetery, then receives a pass because the brothers exercise their discretion to do so, doesn't that sorta place an "escape clause" on the Death Oath? Interesting topics. I suppose the bottom line is: a prison gang can break their own rules if and when they choose to do so. After all, they made the rules themselves.

[bumperjack]

Razorman, Great sypnosis on your reply; there is an "escape clause" in the "death oath" For some? not many. But remaining in the "Life" there is no way out when you have a death or Life sentence with out the possibility of parole. But there are defectors with Life sentences also still doing time in prison.
That are on different yards then there active predesssors.
Ernesto "Kilroy" Roybal did 40 years in California's prisons they say he was the Co-founder or original founding member of the Mexican Mafia who turned to God for redemption and became a Evangelist as myself after 26 years in the Brand. You can drop in on "Jesus Christ" instead of dropping out of the prison gang!!! few have gotten passes. Like you said they make the rules. Myself it doesn't matter the way you get out to change your direction it's defection. Take it when Love turns to hate, if your smart you will stay focused on staying completely out of the life and have little to worry about if your navigation skills are good enough to know we're you should be and we're you shouldn't be. Cause the ones that get caught sleeping don't completely get out of the "LIFE" What you have to remember is there influence on the streets is minimal because there prison gangs not street gangs. The oldest prison gang in California the Mexican Mafia has the strongest influence out of them all because of there influence on Southern California Street gangs doing there bidding. The other Gangs have very little influence after there founding years in California's Prisons.

[razorman55]

Great insight, Bumperjack. You have a higher calling now and I commend you, "Snake Eyes," "Kilroy" and others from that life who are now serving the Lord. He will use you more than you can ever imagine.
God bless you !!

[bumperjack]

Razorman, Thank You! Yes My "Higher Calling "is greater than all that madness. I left that Life over 5 years ago. What I do now outweighs the destruction and corruption that life brings. Not all of us wake-up! Sad but true. God Bless You as well Razorman!!!
Bumperjack

[dman93]

Is Raul Leon a gang drop out?

I read somewhere he was in PC.

he is very careful what he says on camera.

[alexalonso]

Is Raul Leon a gang drop out?

I read somewhere he was in PC.

he is very careful what he says on camera.

Not sure if Raul Leon dropped out, but dropping out and snitching are two different things. This list should include Mexican Mafia members that have actually testified in open court.

[bumperjack]

Dropping out is snitching. You have to give up individuals and events or crimes committed by the Gang your dropping out of... It has to be verified by investigators to have validity before they PC you up on a SNY yard.

[Szczelec33]

Actually you dont anymore. not for a good decade or so. no anyone can drop out for any reason at all or even choose to go shy right away if they want to at the gate of reception.

[Szczelec33]

You didnt read that article about them integrating sny and go how the article even described it?

[Dusty1]

Is Raul Leon a gang drop out?

I read somewhere he was in PC.

he is very careful what he says on camera.

Were did you read that? A EMEro dropout from the same hood (Shelltown) gave an interview. Skip to 50:30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34tv3umYUUA

[dman93]

Is Raul Leon a gang drop out?

I read somewhere he was in PC.

he is very careful what he says on camera.

Were did you read that? A EMEro dropout from the same hood (Shelltown) gave an interview. Skip to 50:30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34tv3umYUUA

hi M8,

take what i asked/said with a pinch of salt. I cannot for the life of me recall where I read it but it'd not have any backing as was probably a random online comment that I couldn't get out of my head.

I've watched your link many times. A great watch for sure.

[dman93]

Actually you dont anymore. not for a good decade or so. no anyone can drop out for any reason at all or even choose to go shy right away if they want to at the gate of reception.

LOl that makes no sense boyo.

So you can get into SNY without giving a biography of your gang activity?

that'd be chaos.

[Dusty1]

I knew a few regular Joes that were allowed to PC up at the gate (1990's) because they wouldn't last on the main line. One was pulled into PC because he was crying on the bus.

[Dusty1]

What's the latest on the 50/50 yards? Hear a lot of inmates been falling down stairs and cuttin themselves shaving.

[Szczelec33]

Actually you dont anymore. not for a good decade or so. no anyone can drop out for any reason at all or even choose to go shy right away if they want to at the gate of reception.

LOl that makes no sense boyo.

So you can get into SNY without giving a biography of your gang activity?

that'd be chaos.

Now you can. You simply can make something up, like I have a drug debt and am scared for my life withiut naming anyone its a liability if they keep you so they sny you. Ive heard cases like thst or even if someone has beef with one dude getting sny.

[Szczelec33]

I knew a few regular Joes that were allowed to PC up at the gate (1990's) because they wouldn't last on the main line. One was pulled into PC because he was crying on the bus.

Also, if you come from a questionable unit in county, they will suggest sny right away for you.