irish racism

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irish racism

Postby fistfullofboomstick » September 26th, 2004, 10:24 pm

http://www.nde.state.ne.us/SS/irish/unit_2.html just an intersting link, be sure to read the good stuff
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Re: irish racism

Postby willihen » September 27th, 2004, 9:01 am

Thats funny stuff!

Irish Racism? Man, thats not possible. Irish are white, just like English, Germans and so on.
Irish were Celtic, while most English were Saxons.

But they are all the same. They're both white.
Hell, I have Irish in me and English.

I remember a funny English joke about the Irish. Something like this...

Why was the wheelbarrow invented?
answer: To teach the Irish how to walk.
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Re: irish racism

Postby fistfullofboomstick » September 27th, 2004, 3:36 pm

its tru tho man, that shit happened all the time and still happens, that page was used as a class lesson in schools about racism, not sure where
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Re: irish racism

Postby fistfullofboomstick » September 27th, 2004, 3:38 pm

it makes no difference if your white, white people hate white ppl too, just different types, there are white ppl that hate jewish ppl, jews r white ppl, that doesnt matter to people because people hate things that are different
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Re: irish racism

Postby J-DUB » September 27th, 2004, 4:17 pm

I THINK ITS TRUE, BUT ITS JUST KRAZY
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Re: irish racism

Postby willihen » September 27th, 2004, 4:24 pm

fistfullofboomstick wrote:it makes no difference if your white, white people hate white ppl too, just different types, there are white ppl that hate jewish ppl, jews r white ppl, that doesnt matter to people because people hate things that are different


Your right.
But this is not being taught today. These were political cartoons back in the 1800s. It said "Irish Famine" so that would put them around the 1840s.

This looked like a history report on the way English viewed different cultures through time.

The paper was probably current but the info and events were in the past.

Your right though. White people hate and kill other white people over stupid differences.
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Re: irish racism

Postby fistfullofboomstick » September 27th, 2004, 4:27 pm

^^ unfortunatly so do all people
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Re: irish racism

Postby MICK » January 19th, 2005, 1:24 pm

Irish were treated as bad as the early blacks upon arival to America. Irish would come off the boats and there would be Americans throwing rocks at them and spitting at them and sh*t. We had seperate waterfountains too, seperate bathrooms, and the most common sign on a store window was "IRISH NEED NOT APPLY".

Interesting fact, the common clown was created to ridicule the Irish.
The red nose from drinking, the bright red hair, the red paint on the mouth represented a bloody mouth from fighting, and of course the patches on the clothes, because the Irish were poor as sh*t.

Bet you didnt know somthing as innocent as a children's clown came from hate huh?

Im an American, but I wear the Irish flag with more pride the red white and blue could ever give me. My people fought through that sh*t, survived it, and now Irish in America are just as normal and accepted as 4th of July. But I know the history.
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Re: irish racism

Postby Anonymous20 » January 19th, 2005, 2:23 pm

true.. at first irish lived in the same neighborhoods as scandinavians and italian in NYC, if i understand it right.

i got some irish blood in me..

whats happening in ireland right now? is it some kinda war or something?? he.. all i know is that its something between northern irish n south irish or something like that.. and catolics .. can someone clear that up for me?
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Re: irish racism

Postby MICK » January 19th, 2005, 2:27 pm

that war has been going on for a VERY long time. I lost track of what its about these days. Im going to the Isle in the summer for my honeymoon. I'll let you know what I find out brother.
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Re: irish racism

Postby kodiak » January 19th, 2005, 4:52 pm

Wow i didnt know that the clown originated from that. Thats very interesting.
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Re: irish racism

Postby Invincible » January 19th, 2005, 5:01 pm

willihen wrote:Thats funny stuff!

Irish Racism? Man, thats not possible. Irish are white, just like English, Germans and so on.
Irish were Celtic, while most English were Saxons.

But they are all the same. They're both white.
Hell, I have Irish in me and English.

I remember a funny English joke about the Irish. Something like this...

Why was the wheelbarrow invented?
answer: To teach the Irish how to walk.


technically white isn't a race. Define white, are Turks, SPaniards, Italians, and Greeks all white? WHat defines white?
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Re: irish racism

Postby Invincible » January 19th, 2005, 5:02 pm

jews were white too, and so were slavs yet Hitler must not have cared eh?
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Re: irish racism

Postby MICK » January 19th, 2005, 5:02 pm

thats true invincible.
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Re: irish racism

Postby Invincible » January 19th, 2005, 5:05 pm

what's interesting is blacks also kill/hate other blacks, cripps and bloods killing each other and all, but people generally think whites hate kill each other the most (because of all the wars in Europe I think). SOme AB guy also wrote that white people were not unified and would get grouped on in prison before the white gangs started forming, but what's funny is almost all the white gangs are nazis and don't fight each other like bloods and cripps despite the fact that alot of whites think "the white man walks alone by nature".
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Re: irish racism

Postby kodiak » January 19th, 2005, 5:15 pm

White gangs do fight each other all the time. Bikers gangs fight each other Skinheads and KKK fight each other and so on.
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Re: irish racism

Postby Anesis » February 9th, 2005, 9:56 pm

The fight has been going on a long time. Back in the 1600's, the best part of Ireland (the Northern part) was taken from the native Catholics and was given to Protestant settlers. The fighting has been going on ever since.

Ok, so that was really condensed. The BBC has a lot more info about it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/troubl ... ndex.shtml

When I went to Northern Ireland years ago, it was VERY tense. You could tell who was Catholic and who was Protestant. The Catholics were poor, lived in government housing, and had fences painted green, white, and orange. The Protestants lived in the wealthy neighborhoods, went to private schools, and had the English flag painted on everything (red, white, and blue).

Bloody Sunday happened in 1972 when British soldiers opened fire and killed 13 (later 14) IRA members who were illegally protesting.

The Irish were called the "white niggers" when they first started to arrive here. In fact, as one poster already comment, many political cartoons depeicted the Irish in the same derogatory fashions and compared the two, physically and mentally.

http://www.nde.state.ne.us/SS/irish/unit_2.html
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Re: irish racism

Postby MICK » February 9th, 2005, 10:03 pm

^^ Hey brother, that link you put is pretty f*ckin cool. The BBC one.
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Re: irish racism

Postby wizdom » February 24th, 2005, 7:18 pm

Didn't Irish niggas have a gang back in the day. in Brooklyn or something somewhere in NY. Like they had an all Irish hood, and niggas would kill people and neighbors wouldnt say nothing, not even cooperate with the police. they was mad gangsta, now they're gone.
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Re: irish racism

Postby MICK » February 24th, 2005, 8:15 pm

Yes sir. I belive your talkin about the Westies...

It was Hell's Kitchen actualy. If you read, I highly reccomend the book.

They were f*ckin nuts.
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Re: irish racism

Postby MICK » February 24th, 2005, 8:17 pm

Now you are in Chicago, so you know theres lots of us here. HAHAHA.
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Re: irish racism

Postby ROOJOJR » February 24th, 2005, 9:59 pm

Invincible many whites do war on each other inside. I have seen alot of roll up calls between white crews inside and out. Right now BBH and the skins have an onsight. The tip is backing out of backing the nlr and the white boys from iE just lit up some low riders. There is not as much unity as there used to be. In Socal pens whites are clicking up along north and south colors a little bit more each day and no matter how much the lifers want to keep the peace its going to get bad soon especialy with the new deseg laws that are being pushed.
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Re: irish racism

Postby wizdom » February 25th, 2005, 11:29 am

krookid wrote:Now you are in Chicago, so you know theres lots of us here. HAHAHA.


i haven't been to many parts of chicago, i moved here only 2 months ago. where i live its mostly Asians and black people. i live NEAR the OLB hood, i dont live in there territory.
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Re: irish racism

Postby MICK » February 25th, 2005, 11:49 am

Oh ok. Im in Wrigleyville. 2 blocks from the stadium. Welcome to CHI.
How do you like it so far, brother?
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Re: irish racism

Postby wizdom » February 25th, 2005, 12:00 pm

its kool nigga. im in Leland basically, i dont realli much about chi realli. im like here to work basikally to support my kids. kuddnt get a job realli back home in NY
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Re: irish racism

Postby MICK » February 25th, 2005, 12:33 pm

Thats cool brother. I have a kid myself. hes 2. His names Dallas.

How many kids do you have? CHI isnt a bad place to grow up. When I was a kid I loved it here. Couldnt imagine growing up anywhere else.

Work is easy to find here too. I was in Atlanta for a year. F*ckin hated it.

I am contractor here in town. On the side Im a proffesional wrestler.
Thats why I went to Atlanta in the first place. I was trying to get into WCW. But they got bought out. So back home I am.
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Re: irish racism

Postby wizdom » February 26th, 2005, 12:35 pm

krookid wrote:Thats cool brother. I have a kid myself. hes 2. His names Dallas.

How many kids do you have? CHI isnt a bad place to grow up. When I was a kid I loved it here. Couldnt imagine growing up anywhere else.

Work is easy to find here too. I was in Atlanta for a year. F*ckin hated it.

I am contractor here in town. On the side Im a proffesional wrestler.
Thats why I went to Atlanta in the first place. I was trying to get into WCW. But they got bought out. So back home I am.


Yea i feel u, i have 3, and im only 23. but i love em to death. i aint tryna get mixed up in no bad shit kause i seen to many niggas go down not raising there kids. thats why im in chicago so i can be with them and so i can work and make money. kause in NY it was harder to get a job that pays me as much as i need to get paid.
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Re: irish racism

Postby MICK » February 26th, 2005, 9:07 pm

Yea I hear that.
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