No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby PS1979 » March 6th, 2005, 3:47 pm

haha...wesley like him some fried rice
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby blackmanofhonor » March 6th, 2005, 4:08 pm

se11 wrote:
purplecityhello wrote:
se11 wrote:[quote="blackmanofhonor"]because 50% of black men are unemployed in NYC,in NYC if your name sounds black youre 50% less likely to be called in for an interview.That means there are alot of racist whites in NYC.


where did you get that from?


he got it from you, you were the one who posted that stat...son


so because 50% are employed that means you got a 1/2 shot of getting called for an interview? even if they were going to turn you down for being black, usually they have to see that you are first....son[/quote]


The State of the Dream 2004" report, sites a University of Chicago and Massachusetts Institute of Technology study that found that job applicants with "White-sounding" names were 50 percent more likely to be invited for an initial interview than those with "black-sounding" names in the same skill set.


^^^ read that really slow,se11.Can you comprehend that?
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby se11 » March 6th, 2005, 4:17 pm

what exactly is a black sounding name tho? how can they tell if a name sounds black or not?
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby purplecityhello » March 6th, 2005, 4:19 pm

se11 wrote:what exactly is a black sounding name tho? how can they tell if a name sounds black or not?


how many white guys do you know named ...tysean (my name hahaha).....this racism is killing me inside
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby se11 » March 6th, 2005, 4:21 pm

so because people see tyseen on an application, you have a 50/50 chance of being turned down?
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby L Grindin » March 6th, 2005, 4:21 pm

se11 wrote:what exactly is a black sounding name tho? how can they tell if a name sounds black or not?


They assume that any name that isn't British or contained in the King James version of the bible is probably a "Black sounding" name.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby PS1979 » March 6th, 2005, 4:25 pm

white employers wanna see a black man put "toby" or "ben" on his application.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby blackmanofhonor » March 6th, 2005, 4:26 pm

Lakesha,tameka,Tyrone,Lamar etc.Im guessing Muhammid or Juan garcia's applications just ''happen'' to be overlooked more often than jane Smiths as well.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby blackmanofhonor » March 6th, 2005, 4:26 pm

se11 wrote:so because people see tyseen on an application, you have a 50/50 chance of being turned down?


yep.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby purplecityhello » March 6th, 2005, 4:37 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:
se11 wrote:so because people see tyseen on an application, you have a 50/50 chance of being turned down?


yep.


exactly.... my name is pronounced tie-shawn. if that shit aint ghetto..... my son is named cecilio ( cease for short) SMH@letting his mother name him
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby Cold Bear » March 6th, 2005, 4:59 pm

Hell yeah my dog named Dwayne dropped the D and made it Wayne because it sounds more 'employable'. Wayne is for sure a more white sounding name.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby Skillz » March 6th, 2005, 5:18 pm

What is this crock of shit? Damn man America will never let the issue of race die.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby PS1979 » March 6th, 2005, 5:24 pm

white people are preoccupied with race....thats why were here right now discussing which names sound "black" an which ones dont.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby cinnamongirl233 » March 7th, 2005, 5:44 am

in reply to what ps 1979 said, that white people are preoccupied with race, i feel the need to point out some of life as i see it. I am a nurse. I work with and for primarily black people, and trust me, I have a lot better things to do with my time (like CPR) than to worry about somebody's race is. I have encountered more racism from blacks than I have ever seen from white people. If I ask someone to do something within their job description and they don't want to do it, it's because they're black. I can't count the number of patients mothers who have yelled at us because their son (who is actively bleeding from a fresh gunshot wound or stabbing) is thirsty and "I bet you'd give him something if he was white!" The fact is this: yes, it was wrong to enslave a group of people. no, i can not even begin to imagine the horror of segregation and bigotry that people had to endure. and yes, I realize there are still a lot of white supremacists out there. But it is a situation perpetuated by both sides. It still baffles me how it's fine to have a movie like "white chicks" that openly makes fun of white people, but hell would break loose if there was the same movie made the other way around. In our town you can have the black chronicle but i'll be damned if you could start selling the cracker chronicle right beside it. See if you want equality, then just be satisfied to be a human being and stop feeling the need to identify.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby blackmanofhonor » March 7th, 2005, 8:04 am

^^^feeling the need to identify?lol...we have to because your people created such a fu**ed up society.You want us all to become colorblind when at the same time we are living in a society where if your name even sounds black,you have a 50% chance of not being called in for an interview?

''See if you want equality, then just be satisfied to be a human being and stop feeling the need to identify.''

^^^^ its not blacks making society unequal.You act like we are the ones that created this racist society.And our skin color is not just a shade in a box of crayons,there is alot of pain and suffering behind my black skin.Millions died,die,and suffer because of it.I will forever identify myself as a black man.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby blackmanofhonor » March 7th, 2005, 8:07 am

we have to make our own newspapers,televison channels,etc because your kind which controls the mainstream just overlooks us.If there wasnt any BET,then lol you just wouldnt see alot of black movies and videos on TV.If there wasnt a black chronicle,then alot of whats happening in the black community would be overlooked.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby purplecityhello » March 7th, 2005, 9:44 am

blackmanofhonor wrote:we have to make our own newspapers,televison channels,etc because your kind which controls the mainstream just overlooks us.If there wasnt any BET,then lol you just wouldnt see alot of black movies and videos on TV.If there wasnt a black chronicle,then alot of whats happening in the black community would be overlooked.


yeah its kinda funny that the channel that represented "Us blacks" has ultimately become sort of an achilles hill. with all the booty shaking videos non-stop and lack of shows that adress our issues it seems to the outside world like we dont care. lets see how TVONE turns out
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby PS1979 » March 7th, 2005, 3:59 pm

BET is now owned by the same people that run VH1, MTV and comedy central...VIACOM.
Bob Johnson sold out for the dollars.

Viacom=radical zionists with an agenda
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby Common Sense » March 7th, 2005, 4:20 pm

The bottom line with the studio executives is MONEY. The studios spent a lot of money making this movie and they want to be sure they are going to get their money back and them some. I'm sure "Hitched" would have been just as good if not better if Will Smith's character had a black wife.

The executives most likely believed that they couldn't make as much money if the wives were either black or white, alienating a lot of potential white and black Will Smith fans.

When it comes to show business. The word BUSINESS is a lot larger than show, and business wins over art everytime in Hollywood.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby 100 » March 8th, 2005, 6:19 pm

fistfullofboomstick wrote:thats true but it works both ways, ive caught shit from black and latino guys for being with a mixed black/latina girl, and i have caught hell from black ladies too, so its no different man, ppl will care either way



THATS CAUSE THEY THINK BEING A LATINO IS BEING NON BLACK, YOU CAN ASK 50 PEOPLE THIS

25 AFRICAN AMERICAN AND THE OTHER 25 ANY PERSON OF LATINO ETHNIC GROUPS= ARE LATINOS NON BLACK PEOPLE AND 0VER 80% WILL SAY YES BOTH GROUPS INCLUDED.


YOU CAN'T BE A BLACK LATINO AT THE SAME TIME. LEEME ASK YOU THIS THIS GIRL THAT WAS HALF BLACK/LATINA HOW DOES THAT SOUND WHAT RACE WAS THIS LATINA GIRL WE ALREADY KNOW SHE BLACK TOO GET WHAT IM SAYING. THE UNITED STATES GOVERMENT HAVE SUCCEEDED WITH THESE TERMS JAMAICANS, TRINIS, BAHAMAINS ARE BLACK THEY SPEAK ENGLISH AND COME FROM THE SAME REGIONS IN THE CARIBBEAN SO IT'SALL B.S
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby 100 » March 8th, 2005, 6:44 pm

THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY:


"The term Hispanic makes my skin crawl," renowned author Sandra Cisneros told Hispanic Magazine a few years back. "It's a very colonistic term, a disrespectful term, a term imposed on us without asking what we wanted to call ourselves." Since the 1970s, the U.S. Census and the general Anglo establishment have categorized persons from—or whose ancestors are from—Mexico, the Hispanic Caribbean and Latin America as Hispanic. In this sense, Hispanic is a catch-all term that's been imposed on us. For many, however, this isn't necessarily a problem. But for me, it is.

A 2002 national survey conducted by the Pew Hispanic Center in Washington, D.C., reports that 53% of Latinos have no preference when it comes to the terms Latino and Hispanic, while 34% favor Hispanic and only 13% prefer Latino. Hispanic is clearly the more popular term, but I would
argue that Latino is the better one.

Hispanic basically means "from Spain." It's correct to refer to a Spaniard outside of his or her country as Hispanic, but to extend the definition in the way that the U.S. government has is to (unfairly) privilege the European heritage of a mixed peoples.

Latino is short for "Latinoamericano," so the term acknowledges both our indigenous-American and our Spanish ancestries. It's also how we've been referring to ourselves for ages. (Off the top of my head, I can recall lyrics from Ruben Blades' 1978 hit "Plastica," in which the Panamanian crooner calls for Latinos specificallyto rise up in unity against the ills of capitalism.)

^^^^^^YOU SEE THIS PARAGRAPH ABOVE STATES IT ALL^^^ THE STUPIDITY SOME OF YALL HAVE!




In his book Harvest of Empire, journalist Juan Gonzalez uses the terms interchangeably. The National Association of Hispanic Journalists president asserts that the Latino vs. Hispanic debate is one we no longer need to bother ourselves with. I disagree, and so should you.

Latino and Hispanic are umbrella cultural categories that encompass a broad range of racial, national and ethnic groups. Columbia University sociologist and Latino Studies professor Nicole Marwell says that the issue that's really "most interesting at this point is the way in which the terms [Latino and Hispanic] are coming to stand for a race." Latinos—or Hispanics—are going a process of what's termed "racialization," as we're increasingly being seen as the fourth race. We're moving, in other words, from Mongoloid, Negroid and Caucasoid to Black, Asian, White and Latino/Hispanic. Does the fact that we're being seen more and more as a race mean that whether we're referred to as the Latino or the Hispanic race doesn't matter?

While it's true that Latino and Hispanic are both adequate in that both, at this point, refer to the same group of people, there's still something about the term Hispanic that puts me on edge. Its use by members of our community comes off as an attempt to get people to see us as European immigrants rather than as a mixture of African, indigenous andEuropean. If we're seen as transplanted Spaniards, the logic goes that we'll be able to "blend in" more easily, to assimilate in the same manner as turn-of-the-century European migrants.

Latino, on the other hand, has a Spanish ring to it, which tends to work as a mark of difference in a nation where English is the de facto official language. In this way, there is almost a sense that the term Latino resists assimilation and it suggests our struggle to create our own national identity out of our history in the States. For these reasons, I refer to myself as Latino and urge you to do the same.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby Soldier » March 9th, 2005, 3:28 am

It seems to me that the people that most have a problem with black men and white women is actually the black women. White dudes seem to be starting to go for the latin flavor, hehe. They take care of their men better, they are less "high-maintainance," and, well let's face it they're hot.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby purplecityhello » March 9th, 2005, 8:36 am

Soldier wrote:It seems to me that the people that most have a problem with black men and white women is actually the black women. White dudes seem to be starting to go for the latin flavor, hehe. They take care of their men better, they are less "high-maintainance," and, well let's face it they're hot.


im pretty sure black women have no significant international influence as far as movie going goes haha, and that black/hispanic thing has been swirling in the hood since the 70s. I know some puerto rican girls that make Shaniqua look like the Queen of England. Haha@ taking care of their men better
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby blackmanofhonor » March 9th, 2005, 11:16 am

Soldier wrote:It seems to me that the people that most have a problem with black men and white women is actually the black women. White dudes seem to be starting to go for the latin flavor, hehe. They take care of their men better, they are less "high-maintainance," and, well let's face it they're hot.


lol most latinas dont want a white man,most stick to latinos and some like black men
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby Anonymous20 » March 9th, 2005, 11:52 am

i guess u know every latina in the world..
ive seen as much latinas with white dudes as ive seen with blacks..
dont think youre special
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby blackmanofhonor » March 9th, 2005, 1:03 pm

well in my city I rarely see latinas with white dudes most of them stick with latinos but those that go outside of thier ethnicity most of the time go for black men.I have many latino friends and I have had relationships with mexican and puerto rican women.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby se11 » March 9th, 2005, 2:03 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:
Soldier wrote:It seems to me that the people that most have a problem with black men and white women is actually the black women. White dudes seem to be starting to go for the latin flavor, hehe. They take care of their men better, they are less "high-maintainance," and, well let's face it they're hot.


lol most latinas dont want a white man,most stick to latinos and some like black men


i dont know if thats true. if they see a good looking white guy there not going to hold back.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby Common Sense » March 9th, 2005, 2:05 pm

se11 wrote:i dont know if thats true. if they see a good looking white guy there not going to hold back.

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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby 100 » March 9th, 2005, 4:01 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:well in my city I rarely see latinas with white dudes most of them stick with latinos but those that go outside of thier ethnicity most of the time go for black men.I have many latino friends and I have had relationships with mexican and puerto rican women.



@BLACK MAN OF HONOR BLACK IS NOT AN ETHNICITY, RATHER RACIAL AFRICAN AMERICAN IS THOUGH!

A DUDE CAN BE AS WHITE AS DENNIS THE MENACE, BILL CLINTON, OR LOOK LIKE HITLER IF HE'S OF SOME LATINO ETHNIC GROUP HE'S ALRIGHT BUT IF HE'S NOT THEN IT'S 50/50 THAT THEY'LL FUKK with EM THATS WHY I THINK THEY ARE HYPOCRITS!

I HAVE A FEMALE FRIEND WHO TRAVELS TO S AMERICA AND THE SPANISH SPEAKING CARIBBEAN SHE SAYS THE BEST SPANISH SPEAKING ISLNAD IS CUBA AS FAR AS PR GO SHE WAS DISCRIMINATED CAUSE SHE WAS BLACK THEY MISTOOK HER FOR A BLACK-PUERTO RICAN IT WAS NO DIFFERENCE WHEN SHE TOLD THEM SHE WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby purplecityhello » March 9th, 2005, 4:05 pm

Common Sense wrote:
se11 wrote:i dont know if thats true. if they see a good looking white guy there not going to hold back.

J-Lo


she fucks with everybody, excuse my french
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby buck » March 9th, 2005, 4:07 pm

purplecityhello wrote:
Common Sense wrote:
se11 wrote:i dont know if thats true. if they see a good looking white guy there not going to hold back.

J-Lo


she fucks with everybody, excuse my french


you beat me to it purple.
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Re: No Black or White Wife for Will Smith in HITCH

Postby Common Sense » March 9th, 2005, 4:13 pm

I guess there's no shame in her game................LOL.
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