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Unread post by DiaBo » March 13th, 2005, 4:26 pm

Who is the world famous and largest drug lord?

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Unread post by purplecityhello » March 13th, 2005, 7:14 pm

most people think it was Manuel Noriega or Pablo Escoabr

it was Richard Nixon, guess who it is now?

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Unread post by WhiteBoy » March 13th, 2005, 7:45 pm

ME!
i wouldn't call nixon or any presedent a drug lord, they fit more in the over lord catagory.

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Unread post by BlaKK » March 13th, 2005, 8:55 pm

Escobar No Doubt. He had Billions. Cartels from Africa To Cuba, America to Russia, Mexico to Guatamla. Houses in almost every Country in the world.
Had an army of thousands that pleded there loyalty to him. Almost overthrew an incumbant Gov't regime. (Cuba) He owned zoo's.
Hes home in Florida was worht a retail $700,000,000 Muthfucha had a fuccenzoo with lions and shyt in his home.
He almost owned the mexican DEA through Bribes and that kept American Intell off him, He was low off the radar. and everything was goin smooth for him untill one of his people shot a presidential candiidate. Then it was all over. VERY VERY RICH MAN MAKE NO MISTAKE HE WAS INDEED A BILLIONARE

Escobar is by far the largest drug cartel dealer in the History of Drugs period.

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Unread post by Sentenza » March 14th, 2005, 6:38 am

yea i agree. The most of the rest is chicken shit compared to him.

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Unread post by BendyThumbs » March 14th, 2005, 7:43 am

As of right now, i really don't know who is pushing the stuff out of Columbia, but i believe when going through Mexico the biggest drug lord would be Vicente Carrillo Fuentes. He is the leader of the Juarez Cartel and has been Wanted a long time. Or other possible options are Humberto Abrego or Osiel Guillen, the co-leaders of the Gulf Cartel. I can't really say which Cartel is bigger though.

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Unread post by purplecityhello » March 14th, 2005, 8:16 am

You guys are thinking small-time, The united states government is credited for inventing crack-cocaine, President Nixon funded ventures in excess of 10 Billion dollars off of seized narcotic alone which suddenly went missing (another reason for his impeachment).

also i found this interesting piece on the net....

Would it change their perspective to learn that the biggest drug dealer of all time was not some Colombian cartelito, but Queen Victoria of England? The British East India Company was chartered by the Crown and controlled, after 1773, by their Britannic Majesties' cabinets. And in 1844 alone, from the port of Bombay alone, Company merchants shipped Malwa opium worth nearly two million pounds to China.

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Unread post by Cold Bear » March 14th, 2005, 8:29 am

About the opium, that's how China got f*cked up enough for the Japanese to invade. If the Queen of England can import enough opium to cripple a nation, what makes people so unsure that they can do this with crack?

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Unread post by Dr. Gonzo » March 16th, 2005, 11:28 pm

Pablo Escobar until the CIA and Delta Force decided to hunt him down like a dog poor bastard.

Just kidding he was a evil man who killed alot of good people he got what he deserved.

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Unread post by NW10 » March 25th, 2005, 8:35 am

Curtis Warren from Liverpool England. Maybe not the richest but he is rich, worth an estimated$370,000,000million dollars. He brought cocaine from columbia and venezuela to england. Whilst he is that rich he also has bought property allover Europe that is legitimate so he could be worth even more. I think he is to be released from prison in 2014

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Unread post by BendyThumbs » March 25th, 2005, 12:33 pm

I wouldn't say Warren is the biggest, but he is one of the most impressive. They can't locate his drug proceeds and connections because he has a photographic memory and remembers all of his bank numbers and phone book. And you a drug lord has a lot of those.

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Unread post by MICK » June 15th, 2005, 9:56 pm

Pablo Escoabr

And I heard from a VERY reliable source that he aint dead.

I heard those guys in the pic above were his boys.

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Unread post by Dr. Gonzo » June 15th, 2005, 10:02 pm

I actually hear that Delta Force did the actual hit. The guys in the picture were just their to make it look like Columbian troops found and killed Escobar instead of US forces.

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Unread post by NW10 » June 16th, 2005, 5:38 am

NW10 wrote:Curtis Warren from Liverpool England. ....Maybe not the richest but he is rich, worth an estimated$370,000,000million dollars..... I think he is to be released from prison in 2014
He was found guilty of murder recently while in prison, not sure when he will be out

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Unread post by BendyThumbs » June 16th, 2005, 1:22 pm

Yeah he got off with manslaughter for stomping the guy to death, he is due of in 2012 i believe.

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Unread post by Paper Chaser » June 20th, 2005, 10:56 am

Dr. Gonzo wrote:I actually hear that Delta Force did the actual hit. The guys in the picture were just their to make it look like Columbian troops found and killed Escobar instead of US forces.
I seen it on A&E, the americans killed him on top of a roof.

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Unread post by dblockin » August 5th, 2005, 5:24 pm

how about kun shah an asian cat who's considered the baron of the golden triangle this cat i heard 80% of the world supplies of heroin.the cia been trying to catch dude for years to no avail.now the's power!!

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Unread post by MICK » August 7th, 2005, 12:31 pm

I know Asia has ALOT of poppy plants. They have been the world capital for opium for years.

Wouldnt suprise me if an asian mob was behind most the heroin.

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 7th, 2005, 1:06 pm

[img]http://cocaine.org/colombia/gilberto-orejuela.jpg[/img]


I d say him and his brother .

Rodriguez, Gilberto & Miguel

Together they built a sophisticated, $7 billion-a-year empire that by the mid-1990s supplied 80 percent of the world's cocaine, according to the DEA. They came up with creative ways of hiding cocaine in cement pillars and frozen broccoli and pioneered sophisticated methods to launder drug cash through businesses that appeared legitimate. Chief among them, a chain of discount pharmacies called Drogas la Rebaja, which the Colombian government seized.

Things began to unravel in the mid-1990s. The cartel's contribution of nearly $6 million to the campaign of Colombia's newly elected president, Ernesto Samper, created an international scandal that stained Samper's presidency, convinced the United States to yank his visa, and brought international pressure that ultimately led to the brothers' high profile arrests in 1995.


They succeeded Pablo Escobar and had also put their 2 Cents in to kill him, by bribing police forces and politicians to hunt him down and not them.
Hard to beat eh?
http://cocaine.org/colombia/cali.html

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Unread post by MICK » August 7th, 2005, 1:24 pm

Thats pretty good sh*t brother. Good info.

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Unread post by MICK » August 7th, 2005, 1:24 pm

Thats pretty good sh*t brother. Good info.

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 8th, 2005, 3:50 pm

Thanks Amigo :D
Heres some more shit.

[img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/780000/im ... os_300.jpg[/img]

On the US-Mexico border an FBI 'wanted' sign displays the photos of two brothers: Ramon and Benjamin Arellano Felix.

Together they run the biggest drug-trafficking ring in Mexico and one of the most important in the world since the disappearance of the Colombian drug cartels in the mid 1990s.

They handle almost all the marijuana, much of the cocaine and a good part of the amphetamines bought in the USA.

But scarcely 20 years ago they were just a small group smuggling cigarettes and alcohol to and from Mexico.

The violence

In Tijuana almost no one dares talk about drug trafficking or the Arellano Felix brothers. And less so, if the conversation is going to be recorded or published. The group's violence is legendary on both sides of the border.

Violence is their most effective way of keeping possible competition, the authorities and the media at bay. And those who are disloyal or pass information to other cartels or to the authorities are murdered.

In the last six years two municipal police chiefs in Tijuana have been killed, one for rejecting a bribe. The second was killed earlier this year, only days after President Ernesto Zedillo launched a harsh warning to drug-traffickers.

"In the past year we have had 400 murders just in Tijuana" says police spokesperson Lorenzo Garibay. "Many are linked to common crimes but in nearly every case drug-trafficking plays a part."

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Their communication and interception equipment is, in many cases, more advanced than that of the Mexican authorities. The money laundering operations are carefully planned and few have been detected to date.

According to witnesses and former members of the cartel, the organisation receives $4,000-5,000 per kilo of cocaine handed over to a dealer in the USA.

It is estimated that at least two-thirds of the cocaine consumed in the US enters the country via the Mexican border.

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Unread post by MICK » August 8th, 2005, 6:19 pm

Yea, I think I've heard of these guys. Crazy......

Again, good info.

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Mexican drug commandos expand ops in 6 U.S. states
Feds say violent, elite paramilitary units establish narcotics routes north of border

World Net Daily | June 21, 2005

WASHINGTON – The ultra-violent, U.S.-trained elite, Mexican paramilitary commandos known as the "Zetas," responsible for hundreds of murders along the border this year, have expanded their enforcement efforts on behalf of a drug cartel by setting up trafficking routes in six U.S. states.

A U.S. Justice Department memo says the U.S.-trained units have recently moved operations into Houston, San Antonio and the states of California, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida. They have been operating in Dallas for at least two years, according to the feds.

The original Zetas are former Mexican army commandos, some apparently trained in the U.S. by Army special forces to combat drug gangs. Members of a broader Zetas organization have worked for the Gulf cartel since 2001. They provide firepower, security and the force needed to oversee shipments of narcotics and smuggled aliens along the border and up Interstate 35, which runs through Texas and Oklahoma.



According to FBI officials, the Zetas are attempting to consolidate their grip on the smuggling route along I-35. Anyone caught not paying the 10 percent commission they charge on all cargo – drugs or humans – is killed, according to U.S. and Mexican law enforcement sources.

The Zetas have also brought their cold-blooded killing tactics to the U.S., say federal law enforcement authorities – murdering rival drug dealers and sometimes innocent bystanders.

"Texas law enforcement officials report that the Zetas have been active in the Dallas area since 2003," said the Justice Department intelligence bulletin circulated among U.S. law enforcement officials. "Eight to ten members of the Zetas have been involved in multiple assaults and are believed to have hired criminal gangs in the area ... for contract killings."

The feds say the group has begun establishing its own trafficking routes into the United States and will protect them at any cost.

"U.S. law enforcement have reported bounties offered by Los Zetas of between $30,000 and $50,000 for the killing of Border Patrol agents and other law enforcement officers," the bulletin said. "If a Zeta kills an American law enforcement officer and can successfully make it back to Mexico, his stature within the organization will be increased dramatically."

The Zetas take their name from a radio code once used by its members. While originally there were 68, the Zetas have trained a second generation of commandos – many of them sons and nephews of those trained by U.S. military forces to combat drug trafficking in Mexico. U.S. law enforcement officials say they now number more than 700. Their numbers also include some Mexican army deserters and former federal police officers.

U.S. and Mexican law enforcement authorities say the Zetas operate special training camps in the Mexican states of Tamaulipas and Michoacán, where newly recruited Zetas take intensive six-week training courses in weapons, tactics and intelligence gathering.

The Zetas conducting a bloody war for control of the entire southern border in an effort to secure a monopoly on drug-smuggling and people-smuggling routes, according to law enforcement officials.

At least 600 have been killed this year in a wave of violence waged by the Zetas gang, headed by reputed drug kingpin Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, said Mexico's Attorney General Daniel Cabeza de Vaca.

Among the victims of the U.S-trained Zetas have been other suspected smugglers, hit men, police, soldiers and civilians on both sides of the 2,000-mile border.

There are widespread reports of the commandos making cross-border runs into U.S. territory in military-style vehicles, armed with automatic weapons.

The U.S. government spent millions of dollars training Los Zetas to intercept drugs, some of them coming from Mexico's southern border, before they could reach the U.S. The U.S. government has also sent U.S. Border Patrol agents to Mexico's southern border with Guatemala to train law enforcement and military forces to intercept human smugglers destined to reach the U.S.

Guzman, whose nickname means "Shorty," bribed guards to escape from prison in 2001. He is one of Mexico's most-wanted fugitives. U.S. authorities have offered a $5 million reward for his capture.

The spike in killings and kidnappings in northern Mexico in recent months has made headlines and prompted federal agents and soldiers to patrol the streets of Nuevo Laredo, across from Laredo, Texas. Recently, a new police chief in Nuevo Laredo was assassinated nine hours after taking office.

Among the 600 people murdered in gang shootings across the Mexican border this year, many were slain execution-style, with their hands tied behind their backs.

The violence along the border has reached a point where some are questioning President Vicente Fox's ability to govern the country.

A senior U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration official, Anthony Placido, told Congress last week that Mexico's corrupt police forces were "all too often part of the problem rather than part of the solution" in fighting the drug cartels.

Fox won office in 2000, ending 71 years of one-party rule and promising to clamp down on the multibillion-dollar cross-border trade in cocaine, marijuana and heroin.

While initially winning praise for putting bosses like Benjamin Arellano Felix and Osiel Cardenas behind bars, his crime-busting reputation has been undermined by the alarming rise in violence, along with evidence Fox has failed to clean up Mexico's police forces.

Faced with the fallout on its southern frontier, the State Department has twice issued travel warnings for the Mexican border, where more than 30 U.S. citizens have been kidnapped.

Mexico's apparent inability to curb the bloodshed on the 2,000-mile border is affecting the financial markets. Banking group HSBC said "staggering" levels of violence could raise questions about Mexico's stability in the run-up to next year's presidential election. Fox is constitutionally barred from running for re-election.

His approval rating has taken a hit, dropping 3 points to 56 percent in a poll in May, with many Mexicans complaining of safety fears, particularly in the north.

Fox has pledged a "mother of all battles" against the drug traffickers he says are openly challenging the government.

"We have taken on the challenge and we will do battle against all the cartels' criminals and against organized crime," Fox said in a speech Friday.

He sent hundreds of troops and federal agents to the states of Tamaulipas, Sinaloa and Baja California last week after suspected drug hit men killed the police chief of Nuevo Laredo.

Despite the move, drug gangs shot and killed at least 11 people across the three states during the week, prompting observers to declare the operation, dubbed "Mexico Secure," a failure.

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Former DEA Agent: Mexican Commandos Killing In South West US To Protect Bush Drug Cartel

Prison Planet | June 9, 2005

Retired DEA Agent Celerino "Cele" Castillo III served for 12 years in the Drug Enforcement Administration where he built cases against organized drug rings in Manhattan, raided jungle cocaine labs in the amazon, conducted aerial eradication operations in Guatemala, and assembled and trained anti-narcotics units in several countries.



Cele appeared on the Alex Jones show and dropped the bombshell that los Zetas, Mexican drug commandos trained in the U.S. at the School of the Americas at Fort Benning, Georgia to be the elite "special forces" of the Mexican military are now murdering police and conducting hits all over the South West US.

This partially came out in the national media last week but the spin was that it was just a case of blowback and that these US trained commandos had come back to haunt their former handlers. The truth is that they are still working for the US government in protecting drug routes to keep the wheels of Wall Street oiled.

These commandos are working directly for the Bush drug cartel in carrying out hits on rival drug smugglers who aren't paying their cut. Witnesses and innocent police, DEA and FBI agents are also being murdered.

Here is the partial transcript from the show. Click here to listen.

Cele Castillo: "That same blueprint they used in Guatamala and in Vietnam they have now brought it to Iraq and the same Colonel who ran the death squads down in El Salvador Colonel James Steele is now running those commando unit death squads in Iraq. So basically we have the same individuals, same cell grups that were in Vietnam that came to central America and Miami and so forth and are now in Iraq and some of them are being trained here in south Texas. There's warehouses down here we're they're training more Zetas individuals that work for the cartels.

Alex Jones: "Now for those that missed that, you have evidence as a former veteran, peace officer and then head DEA agent in Latin America and you live in south Texas, that down there they are training these los Zetas groups and again they're now targeting rival cowboys that are not paying their cut, do you agree with that statement?"

Cele Castillo: "Absolutely but not only that just recently last month we had a female US customs agent driving down the highway and a couple of individuals drove up to her and just shot the hell out of the car and she got hit on the ankle and they're not gonna take any more prisoners. They're now gonna target FBI agents, DEA agents and people that were able to get away from...."

Alex Jones: "And Bush has ordered the border patrol to stand down there in the Tuscon sector because, this was official, because it was cutting in on their drug profits."

Cele Castillo: "Well exactly and now they're planning to come to south Texas and they're gonna do the same thing here in south Texas and there was a story just today in the paper which says border patrol agents say you know what we can't stop these people from coming across the border and the reason that we can't stop them is because our government is not letting us do it."

Alex Jones: "Well I read in the Brownsville paper, the Dallas Moring News you name it that they're conducting murders all over Texas and killing police officers but it's a national secret Cele, it's in regional papers....

Cele Castillo: "Well one of the most major things that people don't realize that's going on is a lot of these people getting murdered are informants for the DEA and FBI and basically people don't wanna admit the fact or let the public know that these people are informants working for the government."

Alex Jones: "Cop killers that work for Bush."

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NewJerzThug wrote:Former DEA Agent: Mexican Commandos Killing In South West US To Protect Bush Drug Cartel

Prison Planet | June 9, 2005

Retired DEA Agent Celerino "Cele" Castillo III served for 12 years in the Drug Enforcement Administration where he built cases against organized drug rings in Manhattan, raided jungle cocaine labs in the amazon, conducted aerial eradication operations in Guatemala, and assembled and trained anti-narcotics units in several countries.



Cele appeared on the Alex Jones show and dropped the bombshell that los Zetas, Mexican drug commandos trained in the U.S. at the School of the Americas at Fort Benning, Georgia to be the elite "special forces" of the Mexican military are now murdering police and conducting hits all over the South West US.

This partially came out in the national media last week but the spin was that it was just a case of blowback and that these US trained commandos had come back to haunt their former handlers. The truth is that they are still working for the US government in protecting drug routes to keep the wheels of Wall Street oiled.

These commandos are working directly for the Bush drug cartel in carrying out hits on rival drug smugglers who aren't paying their cut. Witnesses and innocent police, DEA and FBI agents are also being murdered.

Here is the partial transcript from the show. Click here to listen.

Cele Castillo: "That same blueprint they used in Guatamala and in Vietnam they have now brought it to Iraq and the same Colonel who ran the death squads down in El Salvador Colonel James Steele is now running those commando unit death squads in Iraq. So basically we have the same individuals, same cell grups that were in Vietnam that came to central America and Miami and so forth and are now in Iraq and some of them are being trained here in south Texas. There's warehouses down here we're they're training more Zetas individuals that work for the cartels.

Alex Jones: "Now for those that missed that, you have evidence as a former veteran, peace officer and then head DEA agent in Latin America and you live in south Texas, that down there they are training these los Zetas groups and again they're now targeting rival cowboys that are not paying their cut, do you agree with that statement?"

Cele Castillo: "Absolutely but not only that just recently last month we had a female US customs agent driving down the highway and a couple of individuals drove up to her and just shot the hell out of the car and she got hit on the ankle and they're not gonna take any more prisoners. They're now gonna target FBI agents, DEA agents and people that were able to get away from...."

Alex Jones: "And Bush has ordered the border patrol to stand down there in the Tuscon sector because, this was official, because it was cutting in on their drug profits."

Cele Castillo: "Well exactly and now they're planning to come to south Texas and they're gonna do the same thing here in south Texas and there was a story just today in the paper which says border patrol agents say you know what we can't stop these people from coming across the border and the reason that we can't stop them is because our government is not letting us do it."

Alex Jones: "Well I read in the Brownsville paper, the Dallas Moring News you name it that they're conducting murders all over Texas and killing police officers but it's a national secret Cele, it's in regional papers....

Cele Castillo: "Well one of the most major things that people don't realize that's going on is a lot of these people getting murdered are informants for the DEA and FBI and basically people don't wanna admit the fact or let the public know that these people are informants working for the government."

Alex Jones: "Cop killers that work for Bush."
It it is true then the plan failed because the Zetas are losing ground and people to the the other cartel. Oh yeah and none of them were trained in the School of the Americas.

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Unread post by wutevr » October 9th, 2005, 9:24 am

BendyThumbs wrote:I wouldn't say Warren is the biggest, but he is one of the most impressive. They can't locate his drug proceeds and connections because he has a photographic memory and remembers all of his bank numbers and phone book. And you a drug lord has a lot of those.
wow that is krazy,seems he could have done anything!

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Unread post by snipez » November 1st, 2005, 11:15 am

VERY VERY RICH MAN MAKE NO MISTAKE HE WAS INDEED A BILLIONARE
w0w

now look at him

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Unread post by Y.G. » November 15th, 2005, 1:54 am

BlaKK wrote:Escobar No Doubt. He had Billions. Cartels from Africa To Cuba, America to Russia, Mexico to Guatamla. Houses in almost every Country in the world.
Had an army of thousands that pleded there loyalty to him. Almost overthrew an incumbant Gov't regime. (Cuba) He owned zoo's.
Hes home in Florida was worht a retail $700,000,000 Muthfucha had a fuccenzoo with lions and shyt in his home.
He almost owned the mexican DEA through Bribes and that kept American Intell off him, He was low off the radar. and everything was goin smooth for him untill one of his people shot a presidential candiidate. Then it was all over. VERY VERY RICH MAN MAKE NO MISTAKE HE WAS INDEED A BILLIONARE

Escobar is by far the largest drug cartel dealer in the History of Drugs period.

NO RONALD REAGAN BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR RONALD REAGAN NONE OF THESE FOOLS WOULD OF BEEN MAKING MONEY.

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Unread post by Brig » January 3rd, 2006, 7:37 pm

Pablo Escobar, Carlos Castano, one of the FARC or one of the Cali Cartel. Definitely Colombian. Also, there's no evidence whatsoever that Delta Force killed Escobar and if they did, we'd know about it. They're not very secretive compared to other spec-ops units worldwide.

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Brig wrote:Pablo Escobar, Carlos Castano, one of the FARC or one of the Cali Cartel. Definitely Colombian. Also, there's no evidence whatsoever that Delta Force killed Escobar and if they did, we'd know about it. They're not very secretive compared to other spec-ops units worldwide.
Yeah, I guess that's why to this day the Pentagon still denies their is even a group called "Delta Force" who exclusively work with the NSA and CIA on HIGHLY CLASSIFIED operations.

And what other vaunted Spec Op units are more secretive? SBS? Or how about 22nd SAS?

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Unread post by Brig » January 4th, 2006, 5:21 am

Dude, everybody knows Delta exists. I have no idea why the pentagon tries denying their existence. I'd be less surprised if the British or Israeli special forces pulled the trigger LOL - but seriously, all the evidence points to Colombian cops unless you've gotta link that proves otherwise. :)

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