Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject: tj
I see gang signs written all over the walls from Tijuana to Ensenada in Baja. I would think there are quite a few street gangs in Mexico. Anyone know 100% about this?
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
In TJ theres a LOT of gangs. The TJ ghettos are pretty bad.
Arellano-Felix Cartel (AKA Tijuana Cartel) was pretty big, and still is, it just happens to be going to shit now that the government actually decided to get involved.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Mexico
IN TIJUANA THERE IS THE 8TH STREET GANG AND THE 23RD STREET GANG. I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF THE O/G`S OF 23RD AND SHE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT A WAR BETWEEN 23RD AND 8TH STREET.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Here's the list of gangs in T.J. TiJuas, that I've compiled so far. A lot of the TiJuana gangs have been started by Homies from Cali, especially from L.A. & S.D. Therefore they might carry the same name of a gang in your neck of the woods, but the majority of those local members do not share for the most part the same indoctrination or allegiance as in the O.G. hoods. You must keep in mind that it is a completely different world and way about doing things, the level of violence for the street gangs is still relatively still on "rumbles" and "1 on 1", 2 against 3" and so on, bats, bottles, chains, fileros, and whole lot of rocas y piedras (rocks & stones) are o.k., Guns are used for other type of business such as "setting up a store" but then you have to get a "MADRINA" (P.D. PROTECTION-FAIRY GODMOTHER) as well as your suppliers authorizing you from the "ESTABLISHMENT(S)-CARTELES"., Also there's other types street gang membership in the "COLONIAS" (NEIGHBORHOODS) other than just "CHOLOS", you may be active but not necessarily be sporting the traditional "GANG STYLE", the Judas/Juras down here are way different than say LAPD and play by a complete different set of rules and so do the vatos out here
BARRIO CREDENCE 13 / CREDENCIA.,
BARRIO LONE WOLF.,(NOTHING TO DO WITH MY ALIAS)
BARRIO CINCUENTAS / 50's.,
BARRIO DEL SOL 13 / SUN TOWN.,
BARRIO CAñON DEL SOL.,
BARRIO 3 ESTRELLAS / 3 STARS.,
BARRIO MEMORIES LOCO.,
BARRIO CHOLO BOLT.,
BARRIO CHOLO TOWN.,
BARRIO CHEMO / CINCO MIL 5000.,
BARRIO MAFFIA 13.,
BARRIO MUERTO 31 / DEAD TOWN.,
BARRIO SOMBRA / SHADOW.,
BARRIO EAST SIDE LOMITA / LOMAS.,
BARRIO HOMEBOY 13.,
BARRIO HUMILDES / POOR TOWN.,
BARRIO POBRES / POOR SIDE.,
BARRIO BRUJO / WIZARDS.,
BARRIO BUITRE / VULTURES.,
BARRIO VIEJO / OLD TOWN.,
BARRIO REY 13 / KINGMEN.,
BARRIO GRANDE BAJADITA / BIG LOWER SIDE.,
BARRIO SORDO 23 / QUIET SIDE.,
BARRIO MAYA 13 aka: MAGO 13 / MAGICIANS.,
BARRIO 16TH STREET.,
BARRIO 3RA DEL PARQUE / 3RD ST PARK.,
BARRIO SESENTAS / 60's.,
BARRIO WALTER 70's.,
BARRIO DIAMANTE / DIAMONDS.,
BARRIO EL GEMA.,
BARRIO LA TENOCH.,
BARRIO LA COSTA 53 / THE COAST.,
BARRIO LA VILLA.,
BARRIO GRANDE ZONA NORTE / BIG NORTH SIDE.,
BARRIO BUENA VISTA.,
BARRIO LA ESCONDIDA / THE HIDDEN SIDE.,
BARRIO LA PILA / THE WATER TANK.,
BARRIO LA LLUVIA / THE RAIN.,
BARRIO LA TAPATIA 13.,
BARRIO TREINTAS / 30's.,
BARRIO CUARENTAS / 40's.,
BARRIO EL ARBOLITO / THE TREE.,
BARRIO LA HERRERA / IRONMEN.,
BARRIO KEY STREET / CAñON K.,
BARRIO JOHNSON / CAñON JOHNSON.,
BARRIO LOS PINOS 11 / PINE TREES.,
BARRIO REBELDES / REBELS.,
BARRIO DEL RIO / RIVER SIDE.,
BARRIO IMPERIALS 13.,
BARRIO LA MARYS.,
BARRIO NUEVO / NEW TOWN.,
BARRIO GLORIA 20.,
BARRIO INTOCABLES / UNTOUCHABLES.,
BARRIO GENOVA 9TH STREET.,
BARRIO PUEBLO PERRO / DOG TOWN.,
BARRIO MALDITOS 27.,
BARRIO EL PATO aka:CAñON DEL PATO / DUCK TOWN.,
BARRIO SOLER LOCOTES.,
BARRIO BANDOLEROS INCORPORADOS / INC. GANGSTERS.,
BARRIO PEMEX 13.,
BARRIO CHICOS MALOS / BAD BOYS.,
BARRIO LA BARDA / THE WALL.,
BARRIO SANTOS / SAINTS.,
BARRIO LA LINEA 13 / BORDER SIDE.,
BARRIO JARDIN / GARDENS.,
BARRIO PLEBES / PLAYBOYS.,
BARRIO PELONES aka:RAPAS / SKINHEADS.,
BARRIO LARGOS / THIEFS.,
BARRIO PRIMERA FLATS.,
BARRIO DIESICOHO / 18 STREET.,
BARRIO MAS LOCOS / MORE CRAZYS.,
BARRIO VILLANOS / VILLAINS.,
BARRIO PITUFOS / THE SMURFS.,
BARRIO BANDIDOS / BANDITS.,
BARRIO REGINA / REGINE.,
BARRIO 22 TWENTY TWO CALIBER.,
BARRIO FANTOMAS / PHANTOMS.,
BARRIO VAGOS / STRAYS.,
BARRIO SILVER 65.,
BARRIO STRAY CATS.,
BARRIO CAñON DEL DIABLO.,
BARRIO VAGABUNDOS / WANDERERS.,
BARRIO 13 LOCOS.,
BARRIO EL CARTEL 13 / THE CARTEL 13.,
BARRIO BOSQUE / THE WOODS.,
BARRIO CITY HEIGHTS.,
BARRIO AZTECA 13.,
BARRIO PANDILLA JUVENIL / THE MOD SQUAD.,
BARRIO PANTERAS / PANTHERS.,
BARRIO MUTUA 13 / MUTUALISM.,
BARRIO EL RUBI / THE JEWEL.,
BARRIO CINCO ESQUINAS / FIVE CORNERS.,
BARRIO LOS LAURELES / LAUREL SIDE.,
BARRIO 360 BOLT - INACTIVE (OLDIE).,
and many more, some I know where they're at, some I know Homies from, some I see hit up on the walls and camiones (buses), and some I don't get along with., "ALL" are "13" since their creation, some go back to the 60's as in my familias neighborhood DEL SOL 13 / MISION DEL SOL - not affiliated with San Diego's Del Sol Varrio.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Trip out ese, thats along ass lista.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
damn, thats alot of barrios. i remember seeing alot 18st tags last time i was down there.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Thats a big list homie
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Some 18organized like in COL. INDEPENDENCIA, keeping others in check, but for the most part 18 streeters are mostly deportees that did not really get the hang of things in L.A., a few of them in my Colonia, the only hard vato was EL PUPPET WSXV3ST TINY WINOS doing life I beleive now up in San Quentin. others Lil Man2, Negro, Silent - busters in my book.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
my homie from NSXV3st had some probelms with some WS18streeters down their in TJ and had to fight them. whats the point of claiming the same barrio if you arent even going to get along when you see each other? lol...but anyways..how big is TJ? i know its a big city but how big compared to LA?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
2+ Million Souls and growing everyday in the land area one eighth the size of L.A. all hills, hillsides, and canyons, with Mejicanos from every corner of the Country, all bringing in their way of doing things, from different dialects and foods, to the bad sides of their respective cities and towns, not to mention "US" from accroos the border in Califas bringing in our chaos as well. But TJ has never been an angel of a city, always has had a notorious reputation, a lot of feuds and wars that spill into the cartels as well between the locals and the sinaloans as well as other recent immigrants from "chilangoland aka"Mexico City". As to NS18 vs WS18, I was around when the NS was started by the WS in the 818 Mid Valley, and like I posted in other forum topics, those Biggest Gangs sometimes feud with each other because in reality they have very little in common.
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
anyone know what gangs are in Ensenada? just woundering cause i have family who stays there. i just know they have 18st.
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
WS.Eighteen started every other side they have but ya when hoods get big they always get into it with each other, whether its side vs. side, homeboy vs. homeboy or click vs. click. A few months ago the Alsace LS and the Lil Lowks(their youngsters) from the Jefferson Park area had sh.. with each other.
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Ain't been down there for a long ass time, I used to have a lady there, and the Barrio was Valle Verde (Green Valley). There's also a place east of Ensenada called Ojos Negros - real nice place where I went camping a couple of times.
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
ORALE...FIRME LIST LONE~WOLF,
EVERY SINGLE BARRIO CLAIMS "SUR 13" CORRECT ?
EVEN "BARRIO MARAVILLA" ???
ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH ANY MV IN EAST LOS ?
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Somehow I knew that you would ask that question Señor Martinez, ha ha ha.,
Here we go Homie, the answer is definitely, MaraVilla in TJ was the offspring of vatos from L.A. started back around 1980 or so, along with the explosion in Cholo Gangs that occurred in the city around that same time, lots of other Barrios started up with duplicate names in different Colonias with either L.A. or S.D. names, however the same understanding that the o.g. vatos had from their respective Cities did not fit the long established way of doing things down here, so even though MaraVilla split from the rest of "13" & La eME, it did not affect it in TJ for the most part because (1) La Eme does'nt control TJ's or Baja Califas Prison system. (2) "13" has for as long as I can remember -(keep in mind my family has been in TJ since 1962)- associated 13 with "Mariguana" as another way in saying "Locos" and not really Sureños as it is understood in Cali, the Norte vs Sur does'nt really fly down here where everybody is Mejicanos. (3) The TJ gangs allegiances to the L.A. or S.D. gangs is not really there because down here, there's more allegiance to the Colonia then to out of towners with new ideas - that being said - the trend is changing BIG TIME. But you still have Homies from different Barrios in Cali joining the same Gang down here in TJ, there's no contradiction in it because like I said, there's really no real allegiance to the Cali Barrios. (4) By adopting a name from a Cali gang is mostly for reasons of known notoriety, sort of like a psychological warfare, for instance the name EL CARTEL 13 to instill on their enemies a thought that they have "connections".
I hope that I was not to confusing in my writting Señor Martinez.
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Q-vole Lonewolf, the list u put up is pretty good, damn, there are some barrios there that i didn't even knew existed, i would put there also Barrio Perla over in La Zona Norte, i think there is also a varrio Otay, not sure though, oh yeah, and where i live at, Barrio Roma x3, thats are a few i can think of right now, but you covered a lot of them on your list.
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Orale Loco, so we are neighbors, you're from La Roma by the cemetary, just behind La Herrera. So you must be familiar with the Mision Del Sol que no.
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Simon, so u live in El Soler, right, i go there all the time, to get some tacos for the most part, your just a few minutes from where im at.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Tijuana es una ciudad que supera el mote de "violenta" y "caótica". Es volátil como las almas que la utilizan como trampolín para brincar al otro lado, a través del río o del desierto. Es un popurrí de culturas. Es la cantina y el prostíbulo de los gringos. Es inocente y perversa. Es la línea de batalla, el microcosmos de lo que será México, la cabeza de playa de la ola Hispano-Americano que llegará hasta la Patagonia.
La ciudad donde asusta a todos. La consideran terrible, cada vez nos agringamos más, pero también Estados Unidos se hispaniza cada día. ¿Quién asimilará a quién? ¿Cómo se llamará la nación que tenga como base este nuevo mestizaje?"
Tijuana is a city that goes above "violent & chaotic". Is volatile like the souls that utilize it as a springboard to jump accross to the other side, thru the river or the desert. It is a mixing bowl of cultures. It is the bar & whorehouse of the gringos. She is inocent & perverse. She is the battle line, the microcosm of what is and will become Mexico, the beachhead for the Hispano-American wave that will reach all the way to the tip of South America. It is the city that scares everyone. She is considered terrible, everyday we become more Americanized, but the United States also becomes more Hispanized every day. But who will assimilate who? What would be the name of the nation which has as its base this new breed?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
Since the Wild West days, border natives have often been a law unto themselves - a product of their historic resentment of racist gringos to the north and haughty chilangos (Mexico City residents) to the south who sneered at the border for being neither American nor Mexican enough. "That identity crisis and alienation grew into the violent face of the border". Coupled with the region's poverty, it spawned a subculture of Pachucos & Cholos.
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Mexico
BSTLS Barrio STreet LocoS - at Playas de Tijuana
Varrio NAZY 13 - at Colonia Aleman, Tijuana