UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

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UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

Unread post by ViciousRidah » February 12th, 2013, 7:31 pm

The Rikers Island Population In The 1990s was at least 75% black,plus if there were many other homegrown black organizations in NYC like Zulu and The NGE(5% Nation) then they were not major factors to contend with .Either that or they looked the other way of their brothers plight which is disappointing from the stores we hear.

But the only other logical reason for that, is blacks in Rikers Island in the 1990s were not outnumbered at all. Since most of the population was black. On the contrary there are stories that the Netas were getting abused by the UBN,so the NETAS created an alliance with the Latin Kings to combat bloods

This article is from the New York magazine about Rikers Island Prison population in June 1981.Its on the 3rd paragraph page 24,were it says the Prison population at rikers was 65% population, I can't see the numbers blacks and hispanics in prison drastically changing in that period of time.
http://books.google.com/books?id=JeQCAA ... ck&f=false

This in an excerpt of Rikers Island in 2012 even up until today it was 57% black and 33% Latino, I doubt it was predominantly black.


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“There are over 13,000 people sitting on Rikers Island. Eighteen percent of these people are already sentenced to City jail time, with an average length of stay of 38 days, and the rest are detainees awaiting trial or prison bound. Fifty seven percent of these people are African American, 33.7% are Latino, and 6.9 percent white. In comparison, NYC’s population is 26.6% African American, 27.0% Latino, 44.7% white. Seventy to eighty percent of people on Rikers have substance abuse histories, 75% are in on drug-related charges, 32% are illiterate, 40% percent require mental health services and 11% suffer from serious and persistent mental illness. Over 5% of these people are released to NYC homeless shelters, while many more wind up in our shelter system within months of release. In addition, according the NYC Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, 8% of males and 18% of females on Rikers are HIV positive. There we approximate 58,000 discharges in FY10, including 19,500 to Brooklyn, 15,200 to the Bronx, 9,600 to Queens, 9,400 to Manhattan, and 2,200 to Staten Island. Statistics show that 45.5% will return to Rikers Island within a year. For those under age 21, approximately 8000 people, 48% will return in that same time period.”

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Re: UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

Unread post by ViciousRidah » February 12th, 2013, 7:34 pm

*I mean I doubt it was predominantly Latino*in 1993 or even half Latino

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Re: UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

Unread post by ViciousRidah » February 12th, 2013, 9:10 pm

Here below you can see the demographics of Latinos increasing in the early 1990s but even by then the prison population was still predominantly black.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/09/us/hi ... gewanted=2

In many of those cities, though, non-Hispanic whites still outnumber the Hispanic and black populations.
In New York City, blacks made up 25.6 percent of the population in 1990 and Hispanic people 23.8 percent. By now, the Hispanic population may be larger than the black population, given the vast disparity in growth rates. In the 1980's, the number of black New Yorkers increased by 9 percent, while the Hispanic population increased by 27 percent.
In the early 1990's, said Dr. Joseph J. Salvo, who heads the population division of the New York City Planning Department, the emigration of blacks from the West Indies decreased somewhat, while the influx of Hispanic immigrants from the Dominican Republican intensified.
This report says criminals on probation in the most crime prone neighborhoods are 50% black and 30% Latino.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/ymi/downloads/pdf/able.pdf

With 27,000 people on probation city-wide, almost one-third of whom (approximately 8,000) are between the ages of 16 and 24, probation is by far the City’s largest alternative-to-incarceration. Of the young adult clients on probation, about 2,700 live in five neighborhoods: Brownsville, Harlem, Jamaica, East New York, and the South Bronx. Eighty-four percent are men, 50% are black and 30% are Latino. In
That overall probation of convicts 16-24 citywide are 50% black and nearly 1/3 latino, so its safe to deduce that most of the prison population Rikers Island was black.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/ymi/downloads/pdf/able.pdf

The Vera Institute of Justice reports that up to 60% of adolescents ages 16-18 in New York City jails read below a fifth grade reading level.ii A research study by Public Private Ventures has demonstrated that two-thirds of young adults returning from New York State prisons never return to school.iii Of the 27,000 people on probation citywide, approximately 8,000—or almost one third—are teens and young adults between the ages of 16 and 24. Of these 8,000, 84% are male; almost half are Black and nearly one-third Latino.iv Evidence indicates that post-release education has a significant impact on reducing recidivism.
Now keep in mind that many of the Latinos counted would of been Dominicans, which were not considered legit Latinos back then, Dominicans some what did their own thing , and were very frowned upon by Puerto Ricans and not allowed in the circles. Only a few Dominicans joined PR gangs like LK and Netas.

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Re: UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

Unread post by ViciousRidah » April 18th, 2013, 3:19 pm

This quote below shows you that the Latin Kings and Netas were at war during the pre-UBN years and had begun to band together when the bloods became black treachery machine that threatened the livelihood of the Latinos in Rikers Island. By this time the Latinos had it in mind it was no time to play around.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/08/nyreg ... all&src=pm

The Inmate Gangs of Rikers Island; New Challenge in a System in Which Violence Is Chronic

Jose Cruz, 26, a leader of the Latin Kings in the jails, acknowledged that members are sometimes violent, but said it was mostly to defend themselves from abusive officers. He said there were racial tensions between Hispanic inmates and black officers, who make up 58 percent of the uniformed staff.


"They see a lot of Latinos sticking together and they can't pick on us like they used to,
so they call us names and one thing leads to another," he said in a telephone interview from the Brooklyn House of Detention, where he awaits trial for drug sale charges.


The unit, part of the 1,100-bed maximum security jail on Rikers, the James A. Thomas Center, is reserved for inmates who have behaved violently while in jail. Of the 350 inmates housed there last week, 175 were members of the Latin Kings and Netas, said Deputy Warden Michael Geoghean. Gangs Involved In Recent Fights.
This is also shows that the population of blacks on Rikers Island was twice of that of Latinos.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/research/ ... IDS-ed.htm

Evaluation Study and Results

The original evaluation was conducted at the New York City Department of Correction’s Adolescent Reception and Detention Center on Rikers Island between 1991 and 1992.

Key Intervention Effects

Increased condom use

Study Sample
The analytic study sample of 157 incarcerated adolescents is characterized by the following:

66% African American, 33% Hispanic, 2% White
100% Male
95% heterosexual, 5% homosexual or bisexual
Median age of 18 years, range: 16-19 years
41% attending school at time of arrest

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Re: UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

Unread post by DIRTC » September 26th, 2013, 6:46 pm

Doesnt matter the population if dey had no unity

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Re: UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

Unread post by BlueMoon » September 26th, 2013, 7:24 pm

They use that Latin King shit as a way to have a history and purpose behind they fake gangbangin......those Latin Kings aren't original either in New York.....what's funny is they both use 5 point stars but suppose to be enemies.....new York cats don't have gangbangin mentalities.......they do have a copycat mentality.......its crazy because Bloods started in 1973 in Los Skanless not on rikers island in 1993......smdh........I can speak on them because I was locked up with a few when I was on the East Coast......this was in 2000 and I asked the new York nigga when they started Bloods in NYC and he said 1997......either way wanna be's and will never be respected......

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Re: UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

Unread post by DIRTC » November 22nd, 2013, 8:19 pm

Catchin bodies n dyin for your set is as real as it can get cuhz. Niggas dyin over that shit so who df is u to call somebody a wannabe

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Re: UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

Unread post by ViciousRidah » December 2nd, 2013, 5:40 am

DIRTC wrote:Catchin bodies n dyin for your set is as real as it can get cuhz. Niggas dyin over that shit so who df is u to call somebody a wannabe
Some people play with their life if you play Russian Roulette just to act macho which leads to you blowing your head off,that don't make you real,it just makes you real dumb.

You have white boys up in country ass Arkansas who have died over colors that don't mean niggas would ever consider them real.Get your mind right,

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Re: UBN Was Not Created To Protect Blacks In Prison

Unread post by ViciousRidah » September 5th, 2019, 7:35 am

I been telling dudes on here (Shout out to C Bear), that UBN or Bloods in NYC weren't created to protect,@4:40
@7:55 other bloods were getting at other blacks ,case closed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boWp2kTyjPA&t=7s


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