GERMANY GANGLAND NUMBER 1 OF WESTERN EUROPE

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GERMANY GANGLAND NUMBER 1 OF WESTERN EUROPE

Postby EuroTrash » March 23rd, 2013, 11:55 pm

Germany is running wild now with gangs,also exporting them to neighboring countries.They have the Black Jackets a streetgang is active in Western and Eastern Europe.There football gangs are nuts and police can't handle them.They German soiled biker gang Gremium making noise.But also the traditional bikergangs in Germany are hardcore and solid.With now Hannover as motherchapter for the Hells Angels.Germany is changing.
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Postby dubbel » March 24th, 2013, 3:29 am

I think I saw a rap video by those Black Jackets on youtube awhile back.
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Re: GERMANY GANGLAND NUMBER 1 OF WESTERN EUROPE

Postby Sentenza » March 24th, 2013, 7:17 am

I dont know about that, i would think that titel goes to england, some of the english gangs date back 400-500 years...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damned_Crew
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkhurst_Gang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aldington_Gang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Mobs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moss-trooper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Boys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_and_Castle_Mob
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoxton_Gang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkubites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohocks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugarman_Gang

Those are some of the historical ones, hundreds of years old.

Germany has had gangs too some of them were started around 1890, of course they are extinct now....some of them:

Immertreu e.V. [Always Faithful]
Libelle e.V. [Dragonfly]
Apachenblut e.V. [Apaches' Blood]
Reichsverein ehemaliger Strafgefangener [Imperial Club of former Prison Inmates]
Berliner Ring
Der Freie Bund [Free Federation]
Norddeutscher Ring
Mitteldeutschen Ring
Ring Großdeutschland
Freie Vereinigung [Free Association]

Excerpt from an article:

"In the years between 1925 and 1932, as many old law enforcement investigators still know, the Ringvereine became so strong that they became a special threat to public peace and order. They were not afraid to show public presence and to act out openly, and it happened that during the funeral of a member club members took part itself as well as the friendly clubs in great presentation at the funeral and put up the club flags. The club members drove up in cars, and it was often the case that on special occasions, such as foundations and other club festivals, prestigious lawyers, businessmen, among others participated, who were in pursuit of their profession with the clubs or individual members thereof in combination. On the other hand, the rivalry between the clubs had grown so much that to mutual attacks on individual members as well as club houses came, so the places where the members met regularly. "

Made up of convicts, pimps, goons of all sorts. Rapists and murderers were not allowed even though they engaged in murder, gang fights and all that too.

This is what they looked like. This guy, Ali Höhler, a member of Immertreu, wrote history because he murdered Horst Wessel, a famous Nazi propagandist and song writer in 1930.
He paid him a visit and shot him in the head in his apartment.

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A picture of a police raid on one of the club houses.

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They engaged in gambling too and set up "mobile gambling" tables, with one guy always watching out for the police.

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A little story about a gang rumble that ended in a masacre in 1928 featuring the leader of Immertreu Adolf Leib, who was called "Muscle Adolf" because of his physical strength.

He is the one second from the left side.

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As neat as a pin eight men enter on that winter evening, the local pub"Armelien" near the Silesian station in Friedrichshain.
With tails, cylinder, patent leather shoes and white silk scarves they pay "Plank-Paul", they have just been taken to the grave, their respects. In "Naubur" which is the name of a restaurant in the Breslauer Straße 1 (today: Am Ostbahnhof / corner Holzmarktstraße) named after its owner, something has to be done now. Because this is where the 40 carpenters from Hamburg who are employed in the construction of the new subway line Gesundbrunnen Leinestraße are hanging out. The confident Hamburger citizens are many Berliner "ring, savings and sports clubs" - syndicates of local thieves, swindlers, robbers, burglars, pimps, drug dealers, hustlers and especiallyracketeer - a thorn in their flesh.

The goons from northern germany undermine by their sole presence the authority of "muscle-Adolf" Leib, the diminutive chairman of "conviviality Association Immertreu" and his men. Host Naubur had dared to denounce his "protection contract" with the Berlin "brothers" just as the carpenters moved in as regulars. The Immertreu-club flag still hangs in the bar on the wall.

And there was another reason for showing the disrespectful craftsmen who the boss was. For a day earlier, on 28 December, the hamburgers were celebrating in a bar, also in the ill reputed neighborhood around the Silesian Station.
A drunken 18-year-old carpenter stepped on the toes of the Berliner Ring brothers. Against the inevitable beating he had defended himself with a knife. After the hamburgers had been kicked to the curb, the remaining guests noticed that a "brother" named Malchin from "men's glee club north" - a friend of Immertreu underworld union - was stabbed left lying on the ground. His life was in danger.

Since mutual assistance is obliged by the club statutes the time had come "to kill the dog." Fortunately apparently only a few hamburgers are in the guest room left. The stabber from the previous day just bought at "eel-Hehdes" Fish-Shop his supper, when the "always faithful" pounce on him and beat him up severely. But in the back room sitting artisans are aware of the robbery and jump in to help the hard-pressed colleague. Muscle Adolfs people use pool cues, hit with table and chair legs. Eels and liquor bottles are flying through the air, splintered glass, and the carpenters show the many uses of their tools Hammers, axes, angle iron and wood crashing down on the Berliners. In the collective memory the fishmonger stands out. He is caught between the fronts and calls during the biggest helterskelter constantly "eels, eels" - then he passes out.
After about ten minutes, the Hanseatic men have the upper hand and muscle Adolf calls to retreat. Previously, he was served a special humiliation: The fellow guild member of the carpenters, "a huge guy with big shining brass earrings," had punched with his fist on the cylinder, so that it slid down over his ears: muscle Adolf looks like a laughing stock whose formerly elegant festive clothing is ruined.

Still on the way out, while taking outside the injured, the Ring brothers swear revenge for their failed vendetta. When the police arrive, there is a deceptive calm. Investigations are doomed to failure, since only one crook could be arrested, who remembers nothing because he "had received a blow to the head from behind". The Hamburgians prefer to remain silent against the cops too. The bystanders observing the, as one newspaper wrote, "interesting evening entertainment", mostly prostitutes and notorious young crooks known as "rat boys", said that "Polacks" were responsible for the fight.
Before the officials withdraw, they order the Hamburgians to lock themself up till sunrise in the "Naubur". A grave mistake.

In the meantime the berliner brothers had withdrawn secretly into "Leo's court" on the oppsite side of the street and "ring alarm" is triggered. In Immertreu headquarter, the "Black Whale" and in various dives in Moabit and Wedding (a district in berlin), around the Alexanderplatz in Neukölln rang the phones, alarm level three. That meant all available armed forces have immediately move to Breslauerstraße . The Hamburg were looking for reinforcements too. Of six fellow Berliner masons however only two came. The others are caught and beaten.

"Storm in and beat them up" - that is muscle Adolphus tactical instruction. Around midnight, the pubs door is kicked in and around 150 ring brothers of "Always faithful" and "North" go off on the remaining approximately 20 carpenters. The subsequent twenty-minute "battle of the Silesian Station" put everything behind what the usual brutality neighborhood had ever experienced. The Naubur is quickly shattered completely, Leos court severely affected. The Breslau streets and the neighboring side streets look like after a bomb attack. Moaning and screaming of the wounded. The "brothers" are fighting with knives and iron bars, the Hanseatic defend themselves with axes and knives. Broken ribs, smashed noses, smashed heads, and blood everywhere. As the carpenters absolutely refuse to capitulate, the ring brothers pull their guns. Later around 100 cartridges are collected.

The Berliner bricklayer Mörlitz who fought on the side of the room people is lying dead on the pavement. Also a second fatality, a Hamburgian, later is being talked of. Ten critically injured Hanseaten are brought to nearby hospitals. The stabber survived seriously injured.

Headlines such as "criminal association Immertreu assault Hamburger carpenters", or "The fight against of the carpenters against the goblins" show that the sympathies of the Berlin press, lie on the part of the craftsmen. But that should change soon.

The police arrest the usual suspects, including Adolf Leib who is injured at his wrist. Under pressure from the public, the President of the police bans the ring clubs. The answer follows immediately. On December, recalls the famous Berlin lawyer Erich Freyeight gorgeous princesses enter his office. The broads from the Board of Immertreu" led by Hulda Spindler called "stock kitty" put loads of jewelery ("this isnt hot stuff") on the table of the lawyer, and request him to take over the defense, Frey says. And there he is now, fighting police management, press and public opinion, he does something completely out of the ordinary. He pulls his biggest rival, the second Berlin celebrity lawyer, Max Alsberg into the mix.

The five-day trial begins on 4 February 1929 before the Moabit criminal court. The three colleagues manage by consistent downplaying the ring clubs to draw sympathy away from the artisans on the side of the criminals. Because in the meantime it became known that Malchin has died of his injuries - and in Dresden and Kiel, the carpenters, who were hastily brought into connection with the pimp environment had gotten into physical altercations. The trial becomes a farce. Innocent angels everywhere.
Nobody had seen anything, because "it was dark". The few willing to testify are presented by the lawyers as untrustworthy. All the main witnesses against "Always Faithful" drop out(which, as it was later called, was honored by the brothers with 300 Reichsmark). As Erich Frey is stolen his noble fur coat during the hearing, he uses a grotesque glorification of Always Faithful: "You see, your honor, such thefts would not happen if you legitimize the club brothers again. They have prevented such things. "

Muscle Adolf convicted of simple breach of the peace to ten months probation, another brother, "Beer-Albert" gets five months. The charge of assault resulting in death is dropped as unclear is who has beaten, stabbed or shot. The other seven defendants were acquitted for lack of evidence. "North" and "Always trust" may be followed forward to the re-admission of their clubs. The Hamburg stabber has been acquitted. The court granted him self-defense.

Again gets the "Always trust" Chef into the headlines, when not completely voluntarily movie director Fritz Lang hires him as a well-paid "consultant" for his world-famous, 1931 premiered movie "M - a city looking for a murderer". It depicts the ring associations concerned for their honor among thieves, in a race with the police a multiple child killer.

The "waiter and manager" Adolf Leib just like most ring brothers and "professional criminals" are imprisoned in a concentration camp by the Nazis and are killed.

Christmas Eve 1929 Erich Frey receives a packet. Its a valuable fur coat with the message: "In honesty lost, honestly aquired. Stock kitty. "


For those who speak german:

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/zeitg ... 05284.html

Today these "Ring-Clubs"/Ringvereine dont exist anymore and the gang scene is totally different, made of mostly motorcycle clubs, immigrant/mixed gangs, Hooligans, crime families from the middle east and all kinds of organized crime.
All of these or often mixed up with each other making it difficult to tell them apart....
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Re: GERMANY GANGLAND NUMBER 1 OF WESTERN EUROPE

Postby Sentenza » March 24th, 2013, 7:41 am

dubbel wrote:I think I saw a rap video by those Black Jackets on youtube awhile back.


They are kind of all over youtube....I mostly dont like their music, but whatever....
They are a mix of all kinds of ethnicities and religions. German, Serbs, Turks, africans, you name it.











One of them got killed 2 months ago. Shot dead after they had been hanging out at a corner store vandalizing the place, bullying customers and beating up the son of the store owner.

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Postby dubbel » March 24th, 2013, 3:18 pm

How long have they been around and how do they get along with others like HA or BMC?
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Re: GERMANY GANGLAND NUMBER 1 OF WESTERN EUROPE

Postby Sentenza » March 25th, 2013, 4:34 am

dubbel wrote:How long have they been around and how do they get along with others like HA or BMC?


1985. As far as their relationship is concerned its neutral from what i know, but i thin k there is potential for problems, since both are fishing in the same "job segments", bouncers, pimps etc....
The Black Jackets had a rumble with the United Tribuns, which is another gang made up of goons.
They were founded in 2004 by a Bosnian boxer. A Yugo-Gang, but they are also mixed.

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Postby Dobre » March 26th, 2013, 12:01 am

Reminds me of the Albanian Blackshirts.
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Re: GERMANY GANGLAND NUMBER 1 OF WESTERN EUROPE

Postby EuroTrash » March 27th, 2013, 3:02 am

Sorry Sentenza but idon't live in the past.And English gangs are not going overseas they are not influencing other countries like German gangs.I am talking about the present situation and Germany is kicking up dust.If u want to meet England gangs then u have to go to England.Germany is different story.And the bikerscene is deadly.While England is quiet.
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Postby Sentenza » March 27th, 2013, 4:07 am

EuroTrash wrote:Sorry Sentenza but idon't live in the past.And English gangs are not going overseas they are not influencing other countries like German gangs.I am talking about the present situation and Germany is kicking up dust.If u want to meet England gangs then u have to go to England.Germany is different story.And the bikerscene is deadly.While England is quiet.


I know but England today still has a lot of gangs...



Check out this site, it has a list with Londons current gangs.

http://londonstreetgangs.blogspot.de/20 ... ban_1.html

Germany doesnt have that many gangs, but yea the biker scene is way more active.
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Postby HungryWolf » March 28th, 2013, 8:16 am

New thread, same shit. Sentenza, thanks for the only interesting post in this one. I didn't know that at all.

To all the rest: Yeah, Germany is tuff shit...
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Postby Sentenza » March 28th, 2013, 8:52 am

HungryWolf wrote:New thread, same shit. Sentenza, thanks for the only interesting post in this one. I didn't know that at all.

To all the rest: Yeah, Germany is tuff shit...


You mean the Ringvereine? Yea its not very known, but very interesting...
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Postby EuroTrash » March 28th, 2013, 1:13 pm

@Hungry wolf
I do not look at tuffness or whatever.I just look at the current situation and Germany is the most active on different fronts.Football/biker wise they are for now the most active country of Western Europe.As for tuffness it's all the same.U have bad asses in every country.
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Postby HungryWolf » March 30th, 2013, 5:35 pm

@Sentenza: Yeah, that was quite interesting. I will take some time on that one! Big THX, bro!

@Eurotrash: It's a time of social decrease. Everybody is marking territory. The biker gangs are on top and they r recruiting from everywhere. It's just a matter of power. Black Jackets/United Tribuns have never been MCs, as far as I know. One gang hasn't yet been mentioned. It's the religious moslems that recruit as well. Remember that rapper Deso Dogg? Off he went to jihad somewhere in a Third World country. Well, puppet, these are ur options. Now chose ur master... :lol:
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Postby EuroTrash » March 31st, 2013, 5:34 am

First u have to determin what is a gang?Is a American styled gang the definition of a gang?What does the dictionary say?Gang=A group of criminals or hoodlums who band together for mutual benefits or profit.2 A group of adolescents who band together especially a group of delinquants.
So with the definition of the dictionary Germany is full of gangs...no?Even the graffiti scene is full of violent gangs.And not just Germany.So puppet master i will await ur respond mr. Knowitallihaveattitudeproblem :-))
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Postby EuroTrash » March 31st, 2013, 5:40 am

Oh Hungrywolf my appoligies for the last sentence i thought u were taking the piss out of me.Read ur post out of context.
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Postby EuroTrash » March 31st, 2013, 5:44 am

And muslims are maybe going on Jihad but also ur skinhead gangs are some tru terrorist.Need to remind u off the Shaorma killers in Berlin.How many did they kill like 10 muslims and committed bank robbery's etc.No really Germans ain't shittt 
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Postby HungryWolf » March 31st, 2013, 11:35 am

No, Eurotrash, I wasn't referring to u as a puppet. It was generell saying about the actual gang scene.

Sure, the nazis r a gang as well. But they r old, homegrown shit. The salafists i.e. r a new breed. U have two kinds of gangs nowadays. The ones for profit, the other for ideology. Nazis and religious groups r gangs that care about ideology, bikers and their likes r about money. But they all use criminal force to reach their aim. Plain and simple.
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Postby Sentenza » January 26th, 2014, 4:06 pm

There have been two murders in Berlin were the Hells Angels have been (supposedly) involved, one has been caught on videotape.



13 Guys enter a betting office and shoot one guy, killing him.

They say the guy that was killed stabbed a Hells Angels bouncer in an argument in front of a night club weeks before.
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Postby EuroTrash » January 28th, 2014, 2:37 am

Read the book from the German Hells Angel Bad Boy Ullie.German Hells Angels are interesting.Because they are going against the traditional rules off the biker scene.Also interesting is that the American HA are more racist then the German ones.
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Postby HungryWolf » January 28th, 2014, 7:49 am

Yea, they r. The interests of all of the clubs stand above any ideology. And that interests r money and power. With the extreme fightings above territory (Germany is a small country) came immigrant members and those members r taking over right now. Remember the Berlin Bandidos chapter that swapped sides and joined the Hells Angels? At the time that happened I said in an other thread that those guys r ether going down in the club or reign supreme, coz they r traitors and nobody is gonna trust them anymore. Nor the Angels, nor any other biker.
And like I said, it came true right now. The murder was (supposedly) commit on behalf of Kadir Padir, who is the leader of that former Bandidos chapter. So, see what's going on in German biker clubs? And it's not only about the Hells Angels, it is about any given German biker club. All of them join forces with immigrant street gangs. It's a carnivorous process going on. Different sides inside those clubs fight for power and as u can see with the Hells Angels guess who's gonna win.

I don't know nothing about American biker clubs, but European clubs r a different animal nowadays. Once you r a member (after serving and putting in work like in no regular job) it is all about climbing up the ladder and gain power. And when u reached the top u gonna make sure u stay there. U'll have nothing but enemies, mainly in ur own club. This machine will eat u up and spit u out. I personally know about one case where a Bandido member put in work real hard and after he got arrested and had been sentenced to 10 years all his former comrades dropped him like a hot potato. There goes the brotherhood.

I believe that American clubs r more traditional and have more of the original "biker spirit". A lot of the new German bikers don't even own a bike. It is ridiculous.
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Postby Sentenza » January 28th, 2014, 10:30 am

I agree with Wolf.
The chapter that committed the murder is the immigrant chapter "Berlin City". Most of them are related to some sort of arabic/kurdish organized crime family. Hells Angels and Bandidos accepted them, because they make good frontline soldiers, cause they are known to get violent very quickly.
They were banned by the local administration (kind of like an injunction), but somehow managed to reform themselves.
All this has nothing to do with the original biker stuff anymore, its solely about organized crime, prostitution and drug dealing.

This is the guy that was killed.

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He didnt take shit from those guys, supposedly stabbed one of them and was murdered.
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Postby EuroTrash » January 30th, 2014, 4:47 am

Funniest thing that was in the book was the German Hells Angels fabricated false documents to get a black guy his Hells Angels colours.Stating the black guy wasn't from African descent hahahaha.That shit cracked me up.Only because the guy was a big player in prostitution and drugs.I mean damn why go with the Angels,u knew this from the beginning.Patching over has always been a good tactic from the Angels.Thats how they won the war in Canada.But here it seems to backfire.
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