Eight Tray (83) Gangster Crip – Los Angeles

Westside Eight Trey (83) Gangster Crips are a predominately African-American street gang, founded during the mid 1970s as a splinter gang off the Original West Side Crips, that included Stanley “Tookie” Williams, Big Bob the Hawk, Melvin Farmer, Judson Bacot, Angelo “Barefoot Pookie” White and Mad Dog.

Kody “Monster” Scott (aka Sanyika Shakur), a member of this gang wrote a popular autobiography entitled An Autobiography of an L.A. Gangs Member while he was in prison during the late 1980s and early 1990s and in 2006 the rights to his book were sold and adopted into a screen play.

According to Shakur’s book, an O/G named Big Sidewinder was the founder who created this neighborhood which was a split off from the West Side Crips (p. 80). The gang started on 83rd Street but spanned north and south stretching from roughly Gage to Century, covering over 40 city blocks similar to the old boundaries of the West Side Crips. Over the years, they formed several sub-clicks including the Original South Side, Deep South Side, Bacc West Side, Far West Side and Nutty North Side. A section of their turf extends west past Western Avenue where St Andrews Park is located.

Scott has appeared on BET, 20th Century, and 60 minutes, and several other programs and magazines discussing his experiences in the Eight Tray Crips addressing the gang situation in Los Angeles. His younger brother, Kershaun “Lil Monster” Scott has been a part of the the peace movement and was involved in the gang truce of 1992.

Monster (b. 1963) was named to the top 10 most wanted gang members February 7, 2007 and was arrested on March 7, 2007 for assault and car-jacking. Because of his popularity the City of LA made a political decision to place Scott on the list above other gang members wanted for murder. According to the LAPD press release (March 8, 2007) Scott was identified on the 7600 block of Brighton Street by a tipster and was later apprehended. The LAPD also stated that Scott had been in and out of prison for 26 years of his life and that he was the “self proclaimed founder” of the Eight Tray Gangster Crips. Lil Monster appeared in the HBO documentary, Bastards of the Party (2005).

Because of the media popularity of this gang, it is one of the most reported Los Angeles based Crip gangs in the United States having been identified in Denver, CO; Aurora, CO; Hennepin, Minnesota; Harris County, TX; Wichita, KS; St. Louis, MO; Albuquerque, NM; and Portland, OR. These other gangs are not connected to Los Angeles and are not part of a national network. Youth from these cities have adapted this identity because of its popularity.

The Rollin 60s Crips are their main rivals and this conflict goes back to 1979. It is one of the biggest and most fierce rivalries between any two gangs in the County. Although there have been some new conflict during the 21st Century that has been extremely violent, such as the Blood Stone Villain vs. Pueblos Bloods and the East Coast Crips vs. Florence, the conflict between the 60s and 83s are among two of the largest gangs in Los Angeles and has existed for over 30 years unabated.

Lil Crip Toe talks about growing up in ETG hood from the Far West side, 2014

Lil Crip Toe talks about growing up in ETG hood from the Far West side, 2014

The rivalry between the Rollin 60s and Eight Trays has become a rivalry between N-Hood Crips and Gangster Crips, which extends the conflict from the two gangs into a regional one. This rivalry is discussed in Scott’s book Autobiography of an LA Gang Member and Donald Bakeer’s book, Crips.

Thus far, a truce or a cease fire between these 2 sets has not been implemented, but if possible a truce between all “Gangster Crip” sets that fall under the Eight Trays, and the N-Hood sets which fall under the Rollin Sixties would be revolutionary.

The ETG are also rivals to all “Rollin 0s” gangs which would include the Rollin 40s, Rollin 30s and the Rollin 90s. Their rivalry “NeighborHood” or “NH” gangs included the 67 NeighborHood Crips (67 NHC), located on the north side of their territory.

They are rivals to all Blood gangs but their main Blood rivalry is with the Inglewood Family Gang (IFG) located to the west of their territory but it must be noted that their rivalry with the Rollin’ 60s Crips is stronger than with any blood gang. The IFGs are attributed for the first ETG casualty (Autobiography of an LA Gang Member, p. 28) which predates their rivalry with the Sixties (1979). Their Crip rivalries include: Rollin 30’s, 40NH, 55NH, 57NH, 58NH, 60NH, 67NH, 90NH, 100’S NH, NH103HTHC, 111NH, 112NH, 115NH, UnderGround Crips, BCG, Menlo Crips, BudLong Crips, Geer Gang, 99 Mafia Crips, and 87 Gangsta Crips.

Graffiti of the 83 Gangster Crips crossed out by 67 NHC, 2002


Deceased member of ETG

  1. 8-Ball ( – July 1981)
  2. Lady Capp, shot by rival Crip
  3. Baby China
  4. Cheeseburger
  5. Big Criz ( ), died as a result of a fire.
  6. Baby Criz ( – 2005), from Back Westside, died in car accident on Normandie.
  7. Cocaine ( – 1981)
  8. D.B.
  9. Dirty Butch ( – 1981)
  10. Fat Rat ( – 2005)
  11. G-May ( – ), shot and killed on 76th Street & Dalton
  12. Lil Gun Slinger ( – ), shot and killed on 97th Street & Normandie
  13. Tiny J Lok
  14. Kay-O ( – 2015)
  15. Lucky ( – 1979)
  16. Lil Macaveli ( – 2005), shot and killed by 99 Mafias on Vermont & Century
  17. Baby Moe
  18. Martha
  19. Roach
  20. A.J. “Baby Set Trip” (-)
  21. Rayford “Sidewinder” Miles, 58 ( – October 1, 2016), died from health complications related to cancer.
  22. Baby Sodi
  23. Cedric Raynard “Tit Tit” Diggs, 17 (June 9, 1963 – Aug 23, 1980), shot and killed by Rollin 60s member
  24. James “Twinky” Cameron, 16 (Feb. 29, 1964 – Oct. 26, 1980), shot and killed by Rollin 60s member
  25. Wicc 1
  26. Young Country
  27. Young Evil, died of cancer
  28. Young Solo (- 2005)
  29. Young Teardrop ( – 2012)
  30. Shannon Hatley, 14 (Feb. 4, 1965 – Apr. 15, 1979), believed to have been killed by an Inglewood Family Blood member
  31. Mykel “G-Wit-It” Washington, 24 ( – June 10, 2015), shot and killed on 88th Street & Vermont


Lil Sodi recently released from prison from a gun case, 2017


Judson Bacot explains early conflict between ETGs and Rollin 60s, 2017


Any hope for Neighborhood 60s and Eight Tray Gangster truce, 2017


Monster Kody from Eight Tray Gangster Crips spits freestyle before his recent incarceration, 2017

OG G.T. on Chevy lowriders and Eight Tray Gangsters Crips history on Florence & Normandie, 2017


Original Westside/Eight Trays from Florence & Normandie on 25-years after 1992 Uprising, 2017


The 5 sides (clicks) of Eight Tray Gangster Crip’s neighborhood in South Los Angeles, 2017



Scooby Loc aka August Bleu, 2014

389 Comments for “Eight Tray (83) Gangster Crip – Los Angeles”

  1. Psychotic 30s

    yo any real Rollin 20’s NHB Bloods know my guy J-Bo? He’s of your set, even tho he Blood and I’m F.O.C (Fam of Crip) we were like brothers

  2. Notorious D

    I know how it is like to have membership in one gang and have blankociates of rivals. But in the long run it can add up. Higher position in gangs is always envied. Keep it Family but watch your back. don’t waste your bullets on good for nothing type of brothers’ I know in the West everything about Bloods and Crips are big. The West is mostly shooting but the East Coast Crippin’ and Bloodin” is mostly politics. Now its the YG’s shooting up now. i believe it for what it is. Jesus keep you. One Love

  3. Kill5^wiitckh

    blankk dat 5^Hiit 3a5^t5^iid3 9t3k!!!!93 Biilly bad azz dat hot hot set!!!!4 yo3 ckrab azz ni99azzz yah heard

  4. RSC H60DSTA

    TRAMPkS

  5. ???

    Is rollin 20 nhb rich rollin and hoodstas?

    • aSShton

      I can’t speak on other states but in Cali, the Rollin’ 20’s NHB are apart of the NeigHborhood Bloods.

      Bloods are obviously not part of the Rich Rollin / Hoodsta group … that’s Crips. From the 30’s to the 100’s.

  6. JOSE

    GARDENA 13 BANGIN THEY CALL MY SKOOBY CATCH ME IF U CAN blank ALL UR DEADD HOMIES

  7. Infant D-Loc

    This is Infant D-Loc Cuz RIch Rollin 40 Ave’s Cuz

  8. MynorFrom40s

    Fohties…to all y’all…and yo mommas. On NeighborHkood

  9. RT

    The “feud” with IFG’s isn’t really going on anymore. Even on Market St, the Trey’s hang out there in harmony. Drive down Van Ness, and you’ll notice that on the West side of the street, there’s IFG graffiti that only crosses out 60’s, and on the East side of the street, the ETG grafitti only crosses out 60’s. You’ll never see them diss each other.

    • mostknownunknown

      To me that’s showin’ u who’s really “Crips”. Crips tough…These so-called Crips gotta clicc wit bloods to fight otha Crips…that don’t sound like no Crips to me. ETG should just turn in all their blue flags for Red flags and just be bloods…there…I said it…anyone who disagrees should eat a fat dyacccccc!!!!!!! LMAO

      • C_coyf

        it seems that the 83 dropped crip a while back they never right it on their graff.. their pretty much their own gang, 83g and thts it

  10. Rich Rollin

    Cuzz them guys cliccin up with slobs and enemies thats like us cliccin with snoovs to take out liccs rmao suwoop movin and groovin is a joce cuzz.

  11. XLS

    THE ETG’s AINT NEVER BEEN CONSIDERD CRiP’s….THEY WHOLE BEEF IS JUST WITH “NEIGHBORHOOD CRIP” AND BACC IN THE DAY I HEARD THEY HAD A LiL BEEF WITH THE BRIMS AND FAMILYS BUT THATS BACC IN THA 70’s.THEY BEEN BEEFING WITH “NEIGHBORHOOD” 4 OVER 30YRS PLUS AND HAD CONFLICT WITH HOOVER….SO ITS LiKE THEY THERE OWN GANG

    • savage Loc

      8treyGC is crip I knw mad ETGs n the y beef wt 59hoover n all da other hoova sets besides 52hoova considered a fact bkcuz 52hoova is unda da gangsta card but also criminal regarding tht there hoova. Get ur facts straight Savage Loc W/S ETGC G stat

    • not true

      say what? ETG has been fueding with families for the majority of their existance

      the Families came to ETG for a ceasefire because ETG was pressing a cold line on IFG, ETG agreed, they both share a common enemy (W/S Rollins) so it worked out

      the F/W ETG are the ones thats coo with IFG, the other ETG cliques really don’t give a fuc about IFG

    • Rich Rollin

      Only reason they beefed wit snooc is cause tramps be on that u with us or against us sh*%.

  12. auld super

    gonna get a 8 tray set going here in ireland y’all !

  13. dawgg

    I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT ANY guy STILL SET TRIPPIN ON ANYBODY NEED TO DO ABOUT 10 TO 15 YEARS, WHERE ITS BACK TO BACK WITH SO CALLED ENIMEGO’S . I UNDERSTAND ITS MOSTLY THE BABY INFANT FETUS BANGA’S STILL WITH THE BULL sh*%, OBG AND OG guyH NEED TAH TAKES BELTS TO YALL blank… GET THIS sh*% ON TRACK WE WENT THRU THAT BULL sh*% AND MADE IT THRU ONLY TO FIND NOTHIN, SO WHY YALL STILL SEARCHIN FOR NOTHIN…

  14. enemigo

    infant d-loc i heard the 40 aves aint NH no more and they gey smashed on by the sp40etys???

  15. […] as though their poverty excused a little “acting out.” Football Williams was a member of the Eight Tray Gangster Crips. He received a “slap on the wrist” for his racially motivated crime, and upon his release from […]

  16. west craccn CUZ Loc Psycho n for anybkody that dont like this 83 gangstas they can go to hell or some other bkig city obg static n rip C style to tookie monster n sidewinder cuz without them there bke no us love to da land

  17. yc killa nappk

    first off fuc all nappks from tha 40k’s to the 100k’s Oki*lah from the lb 20k’s to the 100k’s. Nappk bashin wit a pblankion 99 maggot smashin. bacwest 83 gangster crip m8v3n

  18. DEEDUB

    A lot of ya’ll just don’t know? If anyone on his site know Huncy and Ex-Con then you might know a we bit!!!!!

  19. Western love

    Y’all 83rd guyz is running with bloods now….wtf…you suppose to be crips right. What happened. Ifgb x etgc…. That sh*% looks stupid….and yall us to beef with them guyz. Damn..yall be running wit the snoova too. They claim ck….yall a big blank hood butt u actin like succaz…naybahood….40 to da 100…bro

    • scrappy blue

      yea homie, dats true on rollin.. dat suwooin movin and groovin bs sounds stupid cuz, on h60d crip. tramps n snoos might as well turn slob homie… h60d hoppers. on rollin we stay turnt up on hyde parc n 10th ave. dime blo3k rida gang.. SIX OWE 90043 is the zip

  20. Bigg dallo - O.G

    D.P.G.C GET IT rite! Bklue and grey all day!

  21. peace2all

    do the etgs even beef wit any bloods since they clik up with ifgb?

    and whos deeper ETGCs or NH60s?

    just curious cuz i cant believe they beef so hard, both being crip sets.

  22. I thank all u who want to knw about ETGs and got something to say it’s all G 8ight 3ray gangsters is the most notorious set in LA thats why thay can bring crips and blood together think about it u sissy…just no SISSY’S…so if you got something to say???DON’t””’ just think about it…BABY CRAZY DEE!!!

  23. Spade loc

    Y’all trippin….but they showing the future ….it ain’t simply crip and blood no more…..it’s all about who you got beef with….at least half the time a crips worse enemy is another crip…….both hoods saying the other ones ain’t real crippin…….nowadays it’s neighborhood first then crip……these days….the way sh*% goin with the eses …..they under one umbrella ….blacks should be too……hoods always goin to beef…..but guys saying “I hate him jus cuzz he a blood/crip” is fading….I see crips and bloods interact daily and I come from a time when you couldn’t put them in a room together….so don’t act like that sh*%s so crazy

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