Westside Eight Trey (83) Gangster Crips are a predominately African-American street gang, founded during the mid 1970s as a splinter gang off the Original West Side Crips, that included Stanley “Tookie” Williams, Big Bob the Hawk, Melvin Farmer, Judson Bacot, Angelo “Barefoot Pookie” White and Mad Dog.
Kody “Monster” Scott (aka Sanyika Shakur), a member of this gang wrote a popular autobiography entitled An Autobiography of an L.A. Gangs Member while he was in prison during the late 1980s and early 1990s and in 2006 the rights to his book were sold and adopted into a screen play.
According to Shakur’s book, an O/G named Big Sidewinder was the founder who created this neighborhood which was a split off from the West Side Crips (p. 80). The gang started on 83rd Street but spanned north and south stretching from roughly Gage to Century, covering over 40 city blocks similar to the old boundaries of the West Side Crips. Over the years, they formed several sub-clicks including the Original South Side, Deep South Side, Bacc West Side, Far West Side and Nutty North Side. A section of their turf extends west past Western Avenue where St Andrews Park is located.
Scott has appeared on BET, 20th Century, and 60 minutes, and several other programs and magazines discussing his experiences in the Eight Tray Crips addressing the gang situation in Los Angeles. His younger brother, Kershaun “Lil Monster” Scott has been a part of the the peace movement and was involved in the gang truce of 1992.
Monster (b. 1963) was named to the top 10 most wanted gang members February 7, 2007 and was arrested on March 7, 2007 for assault and car-jacking. Because of his popularity the City of LA made a political decision to place Scott on the list above other gang members wanted for murder. According to the LAPD press release (March 8, 2007) Scott was identified on the 7600 block of Brighton Street by a tipster and was later apprehended. The LAPD also stated that Scott had been in and out of prison for 26 years of his life and that he was the “self proclaimed founder” of the Eight Tray Gangster Crips. Lil Monster appeared in the HBO documentary, Bastards of the Party (2005).
Because of the media popularity of this gang, it is one of the most reported Los Angeles based Crip gangs in the United States having been identified in Denver, CO; Aurora, CO; Hennepin, Minnesota; Harris County, TX; Wichita, KS; St. Louis, MO; Albuquerque, NM; and Portland, OR. These other gangs are not connected to Los Angeles and are not part of a national network. Youth from these cities have adapted this identity because of its popularity.
The Rollin 60s Crips are their main rivals and this conflict goes back to 1979. It is one of the biggest and most fierce rivalries between any two gangs in the County. Although there have been some new conflict during the 21st Century that has been extremely violent, such as the Blood Stone Villain vs. Pueblos Bloods and the East Coast Crips vs. Florence, the conflict between the 60s and 83s are among two of the largest gangs in Los Angeles and has existed for over 30 years unabated.
Lil Crip Toe talks about growing up in ETG hood from the Far West side, 2014
The rivalry between the Rollin 60s and Eight Trays has become a rivalry between N-Hood Crips and Gangster Crips, which extends the conflict from the two gangs into a regional one. This rivalry is discussed in Scott’s book Autobiography of an LA Gang Member and Donald Bakeer’s book, Crips.
Thus far, a truce or a cease fire between these 2 sets has not been implemented, but if possible a truce between all “Gangster Crip” sets that fall under the Eight Trays, and the N-Hood sets which fall under the Rollin Sixties would be revolutionary.
The ETG are also rivals to all “Rollin 0s” gangs which would include the Rollin 40s, Rollin 30s and the Rollin 90s. Their rivalry “NeighborHood” or “NH” gangs included the 67 NeighborHood Crips (67 NHC), located on the north side of their territory.
They are rivals to all Blood gangs but their main Blood rivalry is with the Inglewood Family Gang (IFG) located to the west of their territory but it must be noted that their rivalry with the Rollin’ 60s Crips is stronger than with any blood gang. The IFGs are attributed for the first ETG casualty (Autobiography of an LA Gang Member, p. 28) which predates their rivalry with the Sixties (1979). Their Crip rivalries include: Rollin 30’s, 40NH, 55NH, 57NH, 58NH, 60NH, 67NH, 90NH, 100’S NH, NH103HTHC, 111NH, 112NH, 115NH, UnderGround Crips, BCG, Menlo Crips, BudLong Crips, Geer Gang, 99 Mafia Crips, and 87 Gangsta Crips.
Graffiti of the 83 Gangster Crips crossed out by 67 NHC, 2002
Deceased member of ETG
- 8-Ball ( – July 1981)
- Lady Capp, shot by rival Crip
- Baby China
- Cheeseburger
- Big Criz ( ), died as a result of a fire.
- Baby Criz ( – 2005), from Back Westside, died in car accident on Normandie.
- Cocaine ( – 1981)
- D.B.
- Dirty Butch ( – 1981)
- Fat Rat ( – 2005)
- G-May ( – ), shot and killed on 76th Street & Dalton
- Lil Gun Slinger ( – ), shot and killed on 97th Street & Normandie
- Tiny J Lok
- Kay-O ( – 2015)
- Lucky ( – 1979)
- Lil Macaveli ( – 2005), shot and killed by 99 Mafias on Vermont & Century
- Baby Moe
- Martha
- Roach
- A.J. “Baby Set Trip” (-)
- Rayford “Sidewinder” Miles, 58 ( – October 1, 2016), died from health complications related to cancer.
- Baby Sodi
- Cedric Raynard “Tit Tit” Diggs, 17 (June 9, 1963 – Aug 23, 1980), shot and killed by Rollin 60s member
- James “Twinky” Cameron, 16 (Feb. 29, 1964 – Oct. 26, 1980), shot and killed by Rollin 60s member
- Wicc 1
- Young Country
- Young Evil, died of cancer
- Young Solo (- 2005)
- Young Teardrop ( – 2012)
- Shannon Hatley, 14 (Feb. 4, 1965 – Apr. 15, 1979), believed to have been killed by an Inglewood Family Blood member
- Mykel “G-Wit-It” Washington, 24 ( – June 10, 2015), shot and killed on 88th Street & Vermont
Lil Sodi recently released from prison from a gun case, 2017
Judson Bacot explains early conflict between ETGs and Rollin 60s, 2017
Any hope for Neighborhood 60s and Eight Tray Gangster truce, 2017
Monster Kody from Eight Tray Gangster Crips spits freestyle before his recent incarceration, 2017
OG G.T. on Chevy lowriders and Eight Tray Gangsters Crips history on Florence & Normandie, 2017
Original Westside/Eight Trays from Florence & Normandie on 25-years after 1992 Uprising, 2017
The 5 sides (clicks) of Eight Tray Gangster Crip’s neighborhood in South Los Angeles, 2017
Scooby Loc aka August Bleu, 2014
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Yes fellas, Im friends with yo homie big Joker that got life ,I remember are days at john muir jr high were ,he and I met lil opa dog and that was jokers beging, and his end, I beg him not to get involed with the gang life ,but he did anyway and that cost him his moms, lil brother and big sisters,so is any of you guys looking out for him while he does this life sentence.
You seem to be from everywhere and know everybody hard times.,
Yo haard i was taking care of him i was his cellie we used to make love at nite during lights out and we finger each otherrs man vagina…what u doing? u really haard?
yeah thats nice, I guess, for his stiuation, but he’ll never see the street’s again, now all you would bee gang banger’s listen to what you have to look forward to, if you get life,a life of gaydum, loving a man in place of a sweet woman keep on kil#i*gg ,and you to will become gay!
Come on Harrd if you cant be with the one you love then u have to love the one youre with. I did needlepoint in prison and made lovely underwear that was very sexy. now that i am out i wear my sisters panties and think of my days back in the pen
are you retarded?
ding dong guy 🙂
Call me long dong guy,then cry.
wyte fahgz
way reTardED
You anit no ,peaceful person , just a pieace of cat sh*%!
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I dont like tramps they can eat a vagina while its slobbing no disrespect to the bounty hunters lmfao 3k all day
i only chill wit crip guys screaming k-swiss guy i be like camel and bulls my crip guys kno wat it mean i kno guys n guys kno me in all crip gangs n sets claaaaaaaat throwing up my 3cz gap lil guys claimin dey need 2 start banging cause i be like ashes 2 ashes dust 2 dust in crip we trust in slobk we bust, or let it rain let drip u a slobk or a crip bust a slobk in his lip watch his favorate color drip
Shut up and read a book you idiot
That guy hardtimes is a I dont likeen snitch straight up…I dont like sissysK
guy fuc trampz
What’s cracking cuz crack me 843 505 2452
I dont like napp bashin. All day cuzzz 3 the hard way movin loc..
I dont like SISSY’S AND THEY MOMMAS MOMMA guy chick blank guyS CANT C LIKE US E.T.G.C IN THAT MUTHAI dont likeIN ORDER CUZZ
Fuc 8 tramps 60 gang cuz
YALL ALREADY KNOW WE M8V3N MY guy AND WE STAY M8V3N ON 83 I dont like YALL sh*% TALKCING blank SISSIES YALL AINT sh*% on HOOD
Cracking Gangsta 843 505 2452
On the east coast really need to crack at you
West moving Loc i need to liink up with ows from cali hmu 3365122095
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reppin my 96 accord Sur much love to scrapz’ wEStSiders blood gaNG’ much respEct’
yo itz 96 cuZz peACE to my liquor
lil pee die wakk ,waz up cuzz, here that niger hardtimes trying to do your dadys job , niger if your daddy couldnt do it he cant do either, backs dont want to,get along they just to grimmy to get along with each other cuzz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgSrYLdzR8
A rich strrollink I dont like sissys yu napp blank guy cum to 83rd and western ma guy napp bashin ma guy sissyki*lah ma guy
Say young dude’s, get your mind right, I’ve done time with these brothers from the 60s and they didnt act like you guy’s are actting, that’s bad news for are commuity,quit while your ahead!
Right, Right!
YO f#@$k CKRIPK IT’SK ALL ABOUTK THAT SUR GANG 83K ALL DAY FO LIFE f#@$k HXXVERKSK TOO SSF13 JM13’SK YOU KNOW WHATSKUP FOOLSK
aye d8nt l3t catch laccin whil3 it craccin 3 n wuz craccin tr3yz stay m8v3n 3 C,z upk
Checc it out I dont like ss flowerz I dont like all sewwer ratzz I dont like all nappz I’m frm 83gc ma guy napp bashin sissy smashin I dont like 60zk and dai dead 1z moovin gang or dnt bang I dont like nappz
what mexican say “yo f#@$k ckrips” fool mexican gangbangers dont speak like that and why you wacking out the os in hxxver????? because your a fake one thats why ….EXPOSED
Both of u mutha f#@$kas are some of the most ignorant people.. So I say f#@$k the both of u.. Dumb blankes still gang banging and kil#i*gg over a color or hood.. That’s some real dumb sh*%…
I dont like u dound we live eat dis
Thats some real talk, hound is right, fightin over a color or hood? , especially african americans, we supposed to stick together, we may have our disagreements but who dont, if we dont stick together, we will lose this war
dats to u
They still haven’t learn that hatting on blacks,is dead,and the browm punks are winning the war on blacks with there help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont like 13 wetbaccs brang yo blank to my hood, so i can take yo weed again.
fuk u rollin sissies still goin i thought u were wiped out in 1990 etg style. i must have missed it.
f#@$k CRABS BUNCH OF LAME blank guyS THAT EAT A LOT OF BANNANAS ALL DAY… 187 ON CRABS
:.BROWN PRIDE.: 13 ALWAYS RUNNIN CALIFAZ WHILE THE guyS BE SURRENDERING AND RESTING IN PISS
But how did u get over here did u swim or use a boat this time WetBack&WhiteBoyK
@BROWN PRIDE AKA DROWN PRIDE YOU WETBACKS EAT ALOT OF BEANS AND TORTILLAS AND DRANK TOO MUCH BUD LIGHT YOU RUNNING ALRITE RUNNING FROM IMMIGRATION SURRENDER YOUR FAKE GREEN CARD OR GET GREEN LIGHTED GOT IT ESE???
harlem30 and brown pride your both stupid racist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U_JskW9Fq4&feature=related
here goes your pride gay pride!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U_JskW9Fq4&feature=related
Being in a gang is not worth your soul because thats what you are giving up, my older brother is in a gang an he almost died a few times
That’s real talk, from a real man, I feel yo pain!
Hardtimes, LOL, YOU CRAZY CUZZO.
Yes sir, crazy about bringing our people back together for once and for all!
skater dude guyz
Ryan Sheckler is sorry white boy 187
Shadow Hell Mafia BEast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetvBWE2-q8
da rocc rhymE
rappers revenge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCrFAmVRpMs
sike some old bum guyZz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbMhczkc40Y
CUZZ THIS ETG BABY CRAZY DEE WEST SIDE KEEP 3 MOVIN TO ALL G’S AND IF YOU DON’T LIKE!,,, “GROW UP”
(LEARN) NOT TO LIKE BUT LOVE 2083,,,,D.WRIGHT YOU AIN’T I dont likeING WHIT ME,,, OG!…G’S I 3,,, BIG FROGGG BIG CRIZZZ BIG SIDEWINDER…
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Man its been a min Baby Crazy Dee, how is Big Crazy Dee doing these days, Im sure he is hanging in there, what about Mad D.O.G.? or lil D.o.g. anybody know whats going on with them?
Big Crazy Dee ain’t doin too well
he needs a pen pal:
http://www.inmate.com/inmates/deautridenard.htm
how is big crazy dee gettin on, he still with us in jail or gone.like eight ball and tray ball. keep up the etg legends.
Real spit my guy, keep it coming, for the the of blacks!
true indeed we cud lut u Got hatin blank guys on hiGh schoo sh*%
lets just linc up and 187 some dead real talc I dont like du dum sh*%
and somce on dat