Racial Tensions? Do Mexicans & Blacks get along in Imperial Courts Watts Los Angeles?

Streetgangs.com
April 11, 2010

There has been a lot of discussion about the conflict between Blacks & Hispanics in Los Angeles for some years and some have suggested that there is an ethnic cleansing or racial war taking place in Los Angeles. Evidence on crime between the two groups does not reflect that, and killings defined as “racial” are isolated and far and few between.

Most conflict that people perceive as “racial’ are rooted in gang conflict and can be traced back to the California prison politics, but that has not had a significant impact on los Angeles crime. The last murder in Los Angeles that can be defined as racial occurred in December 2006 when Fajardo from 204th Street gang murdered Cheryl Green, 14, a young girl with no gang ties.

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67 Comments for “Racial Tensions? Do Mexicans & Blacks get along in Imperial Courts Watts Los Angeles?”

  1. Scruff

    I’m chill on yall though. I hope yall work out yall problems out there foreal.

  2. OG

    Scruff u a real ignorant brother you hae no idea what’s going on out here. Yes blacks are leaving and if it’s from Mexicans it’s not becuz of ese bangers but mexicans coming in and influxing prev. Black communities and buying up the houses and the stores from the koreans. No Mexican gang has kicked a black gang out of a nhood, none the F13 haven’t wiped out the coast, the pacoima hoods haven’t wiped out the 1 black gang there, and CVTF haven’t moved the Fruit Towns, in fact blacks have moved the TFlats out of compton. Blacks moved to the high desert comm. To escape the terror of the B’s and C’s or the south to live better for cheaper. This is the truth, the same is happening in the bay and they don’t have outright race problems but blacks is moving. And the racist mex gangs who is doing stuff are going after black civs in hoods where the blk comm. Is small and new. Now get it right next time before u come with that chi supremacy talk.

  3. OG

    You an inpgnorant brother scruff. No mexican hood has pushed out or extincted a black hood in gang warfare in LA. Mexican civs however have moved in mblank into the black comm. And bought the houses and inherited the stores from the koreans. Blacks have moved to escape b and c violence to either the south or high desert communities. In the bay where racial sentiments arenakt as high is experiencing the same thing with blacks leaving and mexicans coming in. CVTF pushed outta compton by ftp, F13 couldn’t smash the coast, and Pacoima Piru still going strong in a city where they fight with almost every Mexican hood, so what are you saying. You on some stupid hater sh*%, and don’t know what’s poppin in LA. The Mexes who ki*l blacks ki*l civs in places with a small and new black pop. Ex. The HG’s and the Aves. These hoods don’t fight black gangsters because there arenakt enough blacks to start a hood in those comms. So pack it up brotha and stay out east, The real racial violence Is in prison.

  4. Chicago Bulls

    Just to correct the person who said Chicago is full of Puerto Ricans, you are wrong. over %65 percent of the Latinos in Chicago are Mexican. Chicago is second only to Los Angeles in terms of Mexican Population. The biggest difference between Cali Gangs and Chicago gangs are that Chicago gangs are educated. The Mexicans and Blacks in Chicago aren’t all about kil#i*gg, they are about expanding and growing financially whether it be selling drugs or opening up businesses. The fact that Chitown gangs see past racial differences goes to show much more advance they truly are when compared to Cali gangs. Many gangs in chicago are multiracial, which shows that in order to join a gang you don’t have to have the same color skin, you just have to be street smart and believe in the overall objective of the gang.

  5. Real ish Says:
    April 14th, 2010 at 8:39 am

    PR’s was attacking blacks in NY prisons why you think they stole the LA prison blood sh*% (UBN – UNITED BLOOD NATION)…So the blacks could unify under something to fight back. Latinos have a habit of going against blacks when there is alot of them and no pressure is on them. Texas and the south may be different from what I know about Texas is mexicans and blacks been there for along time and both of them were gettin blankaulted by whites.
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Some of what you said is correct! But most of those blacks and Latinos usually grow up around one another in their hoods. This might sounds retarded, but it does not become racial until it hits the joint!!! I grew up with some LK in NY, and some of them are mad cool with my family, but you are right about how they change when they start to out # us blacks. It is like that in my hood in NY, now!!!

  6. I think we are our worse enemy because we don’t have unity!!! There are a whole lot of PR Bloods and Crips in NY, so it’s not entirely about racism in NY!!! I heard that most of the original NY LK left, and became Crips, but I cannot confirm it!!!

  7. w/s

    first off this is about cali no ny or chi so shut up nobody cares 2nd f#@$k unity dont need that og is tellin the truth blacks are leavin it seems like 4 every one who leaves 4 new s.a. come back but itas kool though you gotta edapt to your enviroment simple bbuuuttt
    @ OG the f13 have evicted the ecc 59 76 and 89 strugglin cause they was coexcisting then when the beef broke out the 59 and 76 ren out they hood and dont tell me they where not deep the 76 is/was deep guy the got evicted why when they where coexcisting in peace they were all over their hood but once the beef started they moved the f#@$k out sh*% give credit when its do and the 89 is allmost dead i see bloods over their i dont know what blood though maybe the 92 bishop or swans but they allmost gone

  8. wacky boy

    The bottom line of all this maddness is That California belongs to the EME the Mexican Mafia which has strong ties with the Mexican cartels. So quit wolfin all That, crab slob and Asian pride maza you fools ain’t running nada but yo mouth. Yeah you kick some dust here and there. But that’s it. We run it and if you been to calis pintas south side one three. And to u lames outside of Cali the Zoe pound in Florida or the latin kings in new York and them Chi town folks or peoples what ever. The city of Los Angeles we the best!

  9. gritty

    “The Mexicans and Blacks in Chicago aren’t all about kil#i*gg, they are about expanding and growing financially whether it be selling drugs or opening up businesses. The fact that Chitown gangs see past racial differences goes to show much more advance they truly are when compared to Cali gangs.”

    I’ve read of racially motivated murders by hispanic gangs against blacks in Chicago as well, so this is not just a west coast phenomenon.

    “Many gangs in chicago are multiracial, which shows that in order to join a gang you don’t have to have the same color skin, you just have to be street smart and believe in the overall objective of the gang.”

    Hell, there were some black/hispanic multiracial gangs in LA back in the day.

  10. BenGleck

    guytaco mmm

  11. Real ish

    EME don’t run sh*% but they blankholes after the carnales hit them in they culo, if they ran it they wouldn’t need the chick punk sewerrats to try to ethnically cleanse the blacks from their hoods, like some scared blank hos. f#@$k LA femme, and f#@$k turnt up loud mouth, big head, cant catch a fair one, short chick blank sewerrats.

  12. Scru

    Its true when latin numbers are up they want to start acting funny. But blacks will let you coexist if their numbers are in their favor for the most part. I believe that is across america. I think its a cultural thing. I also think its becuase most people think they are better than black people. People have to realize blacks have fought for race in America for years all ready. Made easy for everyone of color to live here. I’ll state something else to. I’m trippin on how cali surenos let the jails dictate the streets. Yeah the jails made people and folks out here but bangers do what they want until they hit county and the pen. Prison is prison the streets is streets. Seems like yall blindly take orders, and kick up money out of fear. It must suck to be young and affilated in southern Cal. Good luck with all that. Chicago no fear, ALL Renegade.

  13. Ray

    And to add another thing about race and gangs in L.A. There are still Mexican Bloods and Mexican Crips and Black Surenos in Southern California. There’s blacks in gangs like 18th Street and Compton Varrio 70s, and Mexicans in gangs like 52 Pueblo Blood and one or both of the Blood Swan gangs (could be either Mad Swan or Family Swan or both that has Mexican members). I’m sure there are some Crip sets that have Mexicans, just can’t think of any right now. I think there’s even a few blacks in Culver City Boys/Culver City 13, even though they had beef or still have beef with the Venice Shoreline Crips.

  14. Radical For God

    WE all need Love power through Jesus. The gangs and violence will never stop but got can change your life. LA need’s a revival.

  15. Radical For God

    GOD can change every aspect of peoples way of thinking. I have done urban missions in the imperial court, jordan downs etc… I can say this that many gang members have a sensitive heart, but they have been abused since their childhood. We need to turn to God for a change. John 3:16.

  16. Big Papi

    What about the high school football players who was ki*led my a Latino gang member last year?

  17. Joaquin Murrieta

    Boys and girls, here’s the reality of it all: all of this nation, especially within the state of CA is becoming populated by Mexicans. Now, I say Mexican, because I know my people; and by the way, those of you who allow yourself to be called a “hispanic,” or “latino,” shame on you. This is nothing but the European/white culture to place a label on our people; but hey, that’s a comment for a different day. Here’s the truth of the matter. Now, the following is an account of what happened so please, don’t get hung up on the whole racial issue; I’m just keeping it real.
    Sometime between 1995-1996, I was working as a police officer with the Housing Authority PD, (the real “one-time”), and I was sent to the Imperial Courts office to take a report of a battery. It turned out a brother and sister, (as in belonging to the same parents), ages 10 and 12, of Mexican descent, had been beat up by a group of about 20 blacks all whom happened to be adults. The kids were not beat up to the point of needing hospitalization, but they certainly got their licks.
    The investigation revealed that yes, they had been up by blacks, but the reason for it was simple: fear. The fear that the black community was feeling is something that Samuel Huntington wrote about in his article, “Jose can you see,” about “nationalism.” For those who don’t understand big words, or don’t know how to use a dictionary, nationalism is: “Devotion to the interests or culture of one’s nation. The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals. Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.”
    The black community within the Imperial Courts was and continues to be concerned the loss of their homes and the loss of their community. This is no different than what the U.S. experienced with the arrival of all races: Mexicans, the Irish, the Italians, etc. Nor is it any different than what the French are experiencing with the inundation of Muslims into their country; and according to http://www.linuxinsider.com/perl/board/mboard.pl/offtopic/thread234/234.html, “…countries like Canada, the United States, Argentina, Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, and Russia can expect to be pressured to accept collectively hundreds of millions of refugees from India, and sub-Sahara Africa.” “Pressured to accept” being the key words. This is a world wide problem and we all have no choice but to get used to it.
    According to Huntington, this country is currently experiencing the feeling of nationalism and he predicts that the entire North half of Mexico will become part of the United States. In other words, open borders. And if you believe in the Bible, the question of the formation of “the America’s,” followed by the whole new world order thing, (but that’s a topic for another day). The population shift is a reality throughout the world is a reality for all to see, or experience, and it is especially a valid fear of the black community within the small confines of Imperial Courts.
    Now for those of you getting into the whole eastcoast/westcoast thing, and that the gangs in Los Angeles are more screwed up than yours because of the race issue, let me ask you something: who are you fighting? Or kil#i*gg for that matter. We don’t need to go further than the victims of the Bloods and Crip gang members, they’re still kil#i*gg of another human being involved and therefore, you’re gang, or the make-up of the gang doesn’t really matter.
    And as far as “Glen”(s) ignorant statements: Glen, what are my people supposed to do, or live?
    And I see that you’re a union man; well let me tell you, unions are a thing of the past and you can thank your local, state and federal government officials for that. And what in God’s name is a white-boy like you on this site blaming us Mexicans? Let me ask you something? Who’s mowing your lawn? Or wiping your backside? It’s a Mexican.
    And for “mostknownunknow,” yes, this WAS part of Mexico; and owned by the Spanish before; and the Native-Americans before that. The Native-Americans are the true victims in all of this. You, me and all the rest of us Mexicans should be thanking God that it is no longer part of Mexico! Hell, we’d all be selling Chiclets at the border if it was still part of the “patria,” (mother-land) which is so corrupt they literally chase their poor away into other countries so that they don’t have to worry about them.
    Like I said, I’m just keeping it real…Joaquin Murrieta still lives….

  18. SMOKEY

    f#@$k chicago thats a bullsh*% blank STATE OR CITY WAT EVER THE f#@$k IT IS FUK IT THOUGH KALLI BANGIN ALL DAY 310 HARBOR AREA chickEZ DID U LAME f#@$kS FROM CHICAGO FORGET WHERE GANGBANGING CAME FROM WE THE ONES WHO TAUGHT U LAMES HOW TO BANG HAHAHAHAHAHAHA AND U CHICAGO LAMES MUST LIKE OUR STATE SINCE U GUYS d#$k RIDING THIS PAGE MEXICAN PRIDE ALL DAY f#@$k sh*%CAGO

  19. b1ackpower

    BACK IN THE DAYS ALL THE BLACK GANGS CRIP OR BLOOD USE TO SHARE THEY HOOD WITH A MEXICAN GANG THE sh*% USE TO BE COOL IM FROM VENICE SHO LINE CRIP AND WE POPED IT OFF WITH THE ESES FIRST. WE GOT INTO IT WITH THE V13 AND THE CULVER CITYS AND THEY CLICCED UP TOGETHER WITH THE SOTEL FROM SNATA MONICA AND EVER SINCE THEN IT BEEN POPIN WITH THE ESES. THE ONE THING BLACKS AND BROWNS GOT IN COMMON IS THE WHITE DEVILS GOT US ALL IN THIS f#@$kED UP POSISTION FIGHTING EACH OTHER FOR NOTHING. WE NEED TO COME TOGEHER AS THE “HAVE NOTS” AND CHANGE sh*% FOR OUR KIDS…..BLACK POWER BROWN PRIDE ONE LOVE

  20. make a poop

    we need to make a poop for jesus christ face to make look like chocolate black guy ok

  21. Knowledge

    I AGREE WITH THE CHI-TOWNS…CHICAGO GANGS ARE VERY WELL STRUCTURED
    AND ORGANIZED! AND THOUGH THEY DON’T GET DOWN LIKE WE DO IN LA…THEY’RE
    JUST AS RUTHLESS AS SO-CAL GANGS!! I KNEW A GD, 4CH, AND A 2SIXER. SO I KNOW.
    I’M BORN AND RAISED IN LA…BLACKS AND LATINOS WERE ALWAYS COOL BACK IN THE DAY-
    NOW IT’S JUST RIDICULOUSLLY STUPID WHAT’S HAPPENING BETWEEN US. LIKE I’VE SAID
    BEFORE THIS sh*% GOT STARTED FROM “LIFERS” WHO AIN’T NEVER GETTIN’ OUT AND THEY
    KNOW IT…SO ALL THEY HAVE IS THERE LAST CARD TO PLAY…THE RACE CARD!! AND IT’S
    A SHAME THAT THESE BACKWARDS-BRAINLESS-BANGERS ARD FALLING FOR THEY BULLsh*%!!!
    ARE YA REALLY THAT DUMB GUYS???

  22. Venice 2002

    OG n blackpower r the only ones on this board who now what there talkn about. OG spite the truth about the real its a demographic shift. Most blacks left after the 92 riots. In moved to Lancaster, San Bernadino, Palmadle, Vegas n so on. In the rest of it is pure gangbanging plain n simple. Its about money n turf, but can turn racial once you start fighting. In can someone tell me what Mexican gang r hood that has moved any black gang out. Man come on like OG said East Coast Crip is still there. N they were outnumbered severly, and also the F13 was n is truced up with the Blood Swans n the Broadways who are blackhoods.59 is still there on Bethume Ave. So is the 76th hood.89 is shrinking to blacks moving out n not wanting to gang bang anymore. It has nothing to do with Mexicans. I go to the East Side once a week i see it with my own eyes. So how is this racial, but like the homie say to i can name you 4 Mexican Hoods whom had they realestate line taken away by black hoods. TFlats is the biggest of this example the Pirus sent them out of Compton. You can catch them in Harpys 13 nieghborhood now. N for Qoong1 with your internet researching your still wrong very wrong. The truth is it was the Rollin 20s Crips, Brick Block Crips, Insane Crips, n all of the SOS along with the Cambodians whom help push the Longos in Longbeach. This is why there still allies today. U shldnt speak on what you dont know r what u get off the internet. By the way so you dont have to research those are all Longbeach gangs. I should no im a ex-banger O.G. inactive from Shoeline Crip like my homie Blackpower. We were the first to go to war with Hispanics in the early 90s in we were outnumbered 4 gangs to 1. Sir we still run our nayborhood, google that in you can see we were victorious. N the end like i said its all about money thats why we went to war. N thats why we still got a lock on our nieghborhood. Yall are funny who speak on things but never lived the life r been on the streets. N u shouldnt want to it aint no games out here on these L.A. streets. For all who really wanna be informed check the LA times homicide report that answers all. In youll find out it aint no race war going on just strait ignorance n ki*ln. In youll find out blacks 96 percent of the time ki*l each other just like 96 percent of the time Mexicans do here in L.A. Everybody in L.A. knows the fox media n Gangland r just a bunch of propoganda idiots.

  23. mannE

    its all about brown and black just like an AK47 so lets aim it at racist white mutha f#@$ker

  24. chupa me Seco

    U should aim it at you parents for makin yo stupid blank

  25. mostknownunknown

    @ Venice, that’s the same bullsh*% I be tryin’ to tell all these mexicans on youtube and sh*%. Venice Sholine still run the drug trade in Venice. V13, Culver City, Sotel, SM, and whoever still have yet to push them guyz out they hood. As for all these guyz from Chi-town talkin’ bout their hoods expaneded to CA. Here’s what yall don’t get. A, the black P Stones are not allied to the folk or people nation. That goes to whatever latin King x3 gang is in CA too. The P stones (Jungle and city) are Bloods, Damus, B Dawgs, that have nothin’ to do with Chicago. No 5 point star, none of that sh*%. As for that Latin King crew in LA…they pay taxes to the Mexican Mafia. They take all orders from the Mexican Mafia. They wear blue flags, not gold and brown, no five point star, no amarre or whatever that bullsh*% yall say. And since u all want to claim them…technically the eme owns yall too.

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