History of THE LOTT X3 SURENOS Gang / TLS 13

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By A. Martinez for StreetGangs.Com
June 28, 2004

lottcarIn the mid to late 70’s in EAST LOS ANGELES, a new gang phenomena occurred on the East Side, the STONER era began. (every true East Sider can confirm) During this time, many of the old traditional cholo varrios had died down tremendously, there were a very few older cholos in East Los, but most of them were “tecatos” and that was very unappealing to this younger generation coming up in East Los, so many of the youngsters evolved into Stoner gangs, getting high on yesca, pisto, pildoras and frios (PCP). Heroin was a straight no/no to this generation during this time period and we had seen how much “carga” would degrade a man to a very low status.

In 1977, Living On’ The Top – of City Terrace park, behind Van Pelt St. up on the hill, in-between Gifford St. there was a big spacious hill side, that young homeboys called – THE LOTT. This was the original birthplace of THE LOTT STONERS 13 Gang.

lottgraffDuring the Stoner era in East Los, there were NO youngsters from El Hoyo Maravilla; there was only Hole Stoners in that territory. There were NO youngsters from Lopez Maravilla, there was only The Humpreys Stoners (Many of these vatos got into THE LOTT 13). There were NO youngster from Rock Maravilla and there were only High Time Stoners in the Maravilla projects. During the early 1980s came the Rascals 13 and there were also “Stoners 13 Locos” out of the Varrio Nuevo Estrada projects; Hicks Boys, Slows 13, F.T.W. Stoners, the Crazy Stoners and others. But the biggest of all the Stoner gangs in East Los was THE LOTT STONERS X3 gang with well over 120 active gang members, all youngsters; all very active.

Since Geraghty Loma was on the opposite side of City Terrace Park, and inactive, they had no youngsters; THE LOTT STONERS gang covered a huge – massive territory. THE LOTT 13 gang varrio borders by the early 80’s were from Gage Ave on the East (Gage Boys & Folsom St. Locos / both enemies) and the 710 Freeway to the east (since there was no Lopez Maravilla active at that time). Every Friday night about 40 to 50 LOTT members would head up to the hills above the 710 FWY to drink and get high. The southern border of the neighborhood was Brooklyn Avenue now called Cesar Chavez (Hole Stoners/now HMV worst enemy) and our Northern border was City Terrace Ave. (The Slows 13). THE LOTT had all the hills above City Terrace Park as it was the main hangout, especially during the summer months. THE LOTT also had other hangouts on Hammel Street, Fisher Street, Bonnie Beach Pl., Record Street, Blanchard Street, and even a big hangout with many homeboys in Boyle Heights on Alma Street, but still the heart of the varrio had moved one block down from Van Pelt to where Brannick and Blanchard Streets meet. That was and is still known today as the heart of the THE LOTT 13 varrio. It would be a very common site in the summers of the early 80’s to see 60, 70 homeboys at THE LOTT on Brannick St.

lottgraff2Obviously, like all other gangs, THE LOTT 13 Locos were involved in crimes that included grand theft auto, bike stealing, slanging dope but all the feuds with our rival gangs were settle the Old School Way, “a puros trancasos” proving yourself with your own fists. The LOTT used to throw down with the Gage Boys, Hole Stoners, Folsom St Locos, High Times Stoners at Belvedere Jr. High, Garfield High School, and East L.A. Skill Center.

As the homeboys began getting busted and doing years behind bars our look gradually became more of the traditional Cholo gang. Homeboys starting getting “TLS X3” and “LOTT X3” stamped (tattooed) on their bodies as we became more hard-core in gang life-style. The LOTT also lost some homeboys in the early 80’s including Frankie, Pablo, and Toker (R.I.P.). By the mid to late 80’s, THE LOTT 13 SURENOS had evolved into a traditional Cholo n’hood and all the madness that comes with it.

In 1989 all the old traditional gangs in East Los starting recruiting all the Stoner gangs and taggers, who had just recently popped into the scene. Before that, THE LOTT’s traditional enemies were: Hole Stoners, High Times Stoners, Rascals 13, Gage Boys, Folsom St. Locos, and Stoners 13 Locos. All of these gangs except for the S13L’s, got jumped into the local MV gang, so now THE LOTT?s enemies became Hoyo Maravilla, Lopez Maravilla, Maravilla Rifa, Gage Maravilla, Rascals Maravilla, and High Times Maravilla. After the green light on all Maravillas in 1993, all MV gangs became enemies with all East Los ~Sure?o gangs such at THE LOTT 13 Gang.

THE LOTT 13 SURENO Gang
THE LOTT STONERS X3 -( O.G. Name – always will be)
Varrio initials – TLS 13
Locos {We got vatos from the Locos clica who are pushing 40 years old right now, that are in California’s State Prisons.}
Chicos
Dukes
T.I.K.’s {Tiny Insane Kriminals}
Tiny Dukes
Diablos
Homegirls: Locas / BabyLocas

Varrio Slogan: Living On The Top = LOTT X3

Original 1st Hood ? EAST LOS – Lado Viejo
This hood is home to the Locos, Chicos, T.I.K., and Diablos clicas (some Dukes)

2nd Hood ? EAST LOS – borders and crosses over into Montebello
This hood is home to the Dukes, Tiny Dukes, and Los Boys clicks (some T.I.K.’s)

3rd Hood ? N.E. Huntington Park borderline with Maywood
The homies claim EAST SIDE out of respect and solidarity for the O.G. 1st Hood, even though technically they are SOUTH EAST.
This hood is home to the T.I.K. Click (other clicks come and hang-out / party)

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432 Comments for “History of THE LOTT X3 SURENOS Gang / TLS 13”

  1. Michael

    First of all… White Fence was the first gang in East Los, Then MARAVILLA… Your information is very wrong..And also the Lott almost got into MARAVILLA but El Hoyo Stopped them…Too much blood between them….The lott also was terrified of El Hoyo Mv….. El Hoyo got so big in the 1980’s that no gang in LA could even get into their territory…

    • Big Loco

      yeah…where’s El Hoyo Mama Verga now?
      half their hood got taken over by NHC
      ,,,
      and THE LOTT 13 still strong, still active, still representing!

    • Marianna

      The war between the Surenos and Greenlighted neighborhoods is definantly on. Sure the numbers and and power are on the Surenos side in the county jails and prisons but on the streets these tax free hoods are mostly able to hold their own. And their growing by the numbers at a very fast rate. In the LA county jail the green lighters have their own module separate from Surenos and it doesn’t only consist of members from Lowell or Maravilla. There’s a lot of Surenos gangs as well. Green lighters are also doing time in the pen separate from Surenos and Eme, in places like Corcoran sat f, Pleasant Valley, Lancaster. The time will come when the GreenLight gangsters will be able to challenge the Eme in the Pintas. The Nortenos have the same problem with GreenLighters of their own. ex Surenos and ex Nortenos are housed together and do come together if threatened by the active Surenos or Nortenos. Big up to all Green Lighters out there it aint easy being green. and to all you Eme suckas (Surenos) when you get tired of letting them raping your Varrios and punking you out of your money and having them tell you to kill your own homies that you grew up with for nada you’ll finally get who the real bitches are. You. GREEN LIGHTERS Unidas. No question about it MARAVILLA is well organized and hold strong ties to all other MARAVILLA’S which makes them More stronger than any other gang in La County. They control 98% of EAST LA and is expanding beyond rapid rate. MARAVILLA is expected to overtake the Mexican Mafia and will be calling shots for all varios. MARAVILLA is the next generation of Mexican Mafia so be aware of their activities

    • Rock n Roll Gangster

      Michael,
      you are so stupid, it’s embarrasing! The history above is about the STONER ERA in East Los, not who’s the oldest varrio in East Los. Let me make it easy for you…read it slowly…
      ………………………..
      1989 thru 1993 – Many of the old varrios that were defunct do to heroin addiction and inactivity, including all the different Maravilla factions jump in and recruit the local Chicano Stoner gangs. Some by force, some willingly – Hole Stoners are now a clique off El Hoyo Maravilla (HMV); FTW Stoners get absorbed into Marianna Maravilla (MMV); Gage Boys are now Gage Maravilla (GMV); Folsom St. Locos and Townsend St. Locos – both get into Maravilla Rifa (MVR); The Crazy Stoners are now a clika off Ford Maravilla (FMV); High Time Stoners are now High Times Maravilla (HTS-MV); Rascals 13 are now Rascals Maravilla, as the clique up with the older Rock Mara to form the MV Projects gang(s). Pomeroy Street Locos, formerly PPB becomes Pomeroy Maravilla as they click up with their mentors – Juarez Maravilla (JMV). Geraghty Loma also officially recruits e/s Rockwood; whose numbers are now well over 50+ members. Our pedo with all the Maravilla gangs came naturally since we already had pedo for many years with the Hole, Gage Avenue, Folsom Street, High Times, Rascals 13, Townsend Street and Pomeroy Street who all eventually became part of the Maravilla car. Even though many of the older MV factions have always been at war with each other for generations, they despised the fact that one lone Sureño Varrio (LOTT-13) was putting in so much work on gangs that bore the Maravilla last name. These MV gangs, who were not traditionally LOTT-13 enemies, became our enemies because – in their eyes – we were becoming infamous at their expense and making the other MV gangs look bad. So these MV gangs would join forces in the condado under the MV banner and would jump /rat pack all the homies from THE LOTT. In the streets – we countered those acts by declaring war and hitting all the MV gangs across the board and became the official “Maravilla Killers”. It is a title that was earned in the mean streets and trenches of EAST LOS, with much bloodshed and has been kept to this day by the many homeboys who have given up their freedom for the sake and respect of THE LOTT 13 varrio as well as the homies out here in the calles who represent to the fullest. No other varrio in East Los can lay claim the title of Maravilla Killers. Anyone who has an inkling of street knowledge can verify this to be true and accurate.

      • bunch of Fags

        Your a FAG

      • Cyco

        What you have for breakfast, rock n roll gangster, bullshit, because that’s what your trying to feed us, fuck you and your un-legitament facts. Your a Lopster of course your going to make it sound you guys are MV killers. Every true educated historian in the streets, know very well, that MV has snuffed you guys off the map. Not to mention your friends r.i.p Panter, and that little kid Kire, or Quire or what ever his tagging name was. So i heard. Well and others i don’t wanna mention for legal reasons, but you get my drief. Maravilla Killers , haa propaganda, You have to make yourself believe that, because since i remember you lame-fucks never took out any of us, maybe wounded, but nothing a little bandaging couldn’t help.I could go walking to your old barrio, and no one is out their. yeaa you guys died out so much its probably you that is trying to write on the walls to this day. Scribbling on a wall without any stile.No youngster around so you have to pick up the slack, por favor. Stop trying to bang at age 35, its no more for you lopsters, but it sure is funny, listening to a has been tagging crew gang.

    • Rock n Roll Gangster

      First of all ^^ you need to stop smoking crack
      Because your tweaking…the history is not claiming or talking about who’s the oldest varrio in EAST LOS.
      It’s talking about the Stoner Era nomas….
      And remember – Oldest does NOT mean downest or craziest. That are many old varrios that are obsolete/dead.
      …………………….

      “…And also the Lott almost got into MARAVILLA but El Hoyo Stopped them…”/
      Meth is a hella of drug. I recommend you stop smoking it because you are delusional and full of shit.
      I’m a veterano from THE LOTT 13 … since the early 1980s… we ain’t never….ever…ever contemplated becoming a Mama Verga!
      Fuck whatever else you heard!
      You’ve been lied to, it’s all mama verga propaganda!
      I’m from THE LOTT and active like a motherfucka so how the fuck you gonna tell what we were doing as far as my own varrio.
      THE LOTT STONERS Gang is the #1 mama verga Killer….so that shit don’t make no sense…not then, and much less now!

    • School teacher

      I work in Belvedere JR.high, and i also never heard of the lott being a notorious gang. I didnt know it was a gang in east L;A . I didnt know they have such vast terretorial influence . We had alot of problems with gangmembers of El Hoyo and Gage and rockwood and vickisn town.

      • Big Loco

        All lies!! first off a real teacher would know how to spell ) hahahaha …2, you’re a Mama Verga, not a teacher. Thanks for the laughs, bitch ass butter

    • Lupe MMV locas

      I never heard of the Lott, is that a new gang, because i’ve been around since the 70’s and i never heard of you in the east side. I heard of el hoyo and lopez and gage , juarez. am a veterana i would of known your homies . i lived in east L.A all my life and never heard of you.

      • Mama Verga Killer

        if you never heard of THE LOTT 13 and you claim to live in EAST LOS
        1. You are a lie0ing sack of shit
        2. You are in a retarded home who no contact with the outside world
        3 Your a Mama Verga who's in denial, because we've lit your homeboys up many times

        which is it?

    • Rock n Roll Gangster

      “… my time was hts but never joined…”/

      So by your own admission, you were NEVER even a real gang member.

      We’ll I’m a real one mother-fucka and I was really active during the Stoner era and beyond, so my info is solid….

      “…but what’s funny to me is I remember the Lott wanting to join maravilla …”/

      whats funny to me is non-active, non gang-members speaking on shit they don’t know about …!

      you believe THE LOTT 13 wanted to join Mama-Vergas because another Mama-Verga told you???

      What proof do you have of that? How can you back up such a bull shit statement?

      The Lott wanting to be a MV makes about as much sense as 18th Street wanting to become Black P Stone Bloods???

      You see what I’m getting at…

      Why the fuck would we ever want to join with our long time enemigos?

      the fact is THE LOTT 13 ~ 1ST hood was already known as “Maravilla Killers” in EAST LOS and smashing El Hoyo Maravilla, Gage Maravilla, Maravilla Rifa, Pomoroy Maravilla, Juarez Maravilla, etc, etc

      “…cause GL was spankin that ass…”

      They killed two 15 year old kids from THE LOTT. Lil Puppet and Lil Flaco (R.I.P.)

      THE LOTT 13 smoked their main shot callers. Doomed the veterano shot callers from GL Dukes and GL Rockwood.

      After that they tapped out….Now you tell me – Who spanked who’s ass?

      Who made the bigger statement?

      “… I was at a meeting with the maravilla gang members…”

      I didn’t know non gang members could attend real gang meetings. Weird ass Mama Vergas

      “… but they didn’t want the Lott to join cause beef had just happened with Lopez…”

      Lopez was one of the last MV gangs we started to war with, so that statement doesn’t make any sense,
      THE LOTT 13 was already “Maravilla Killers” before the pedo with Lopez…. Your info can’t hold water!

      “… I guess they try to handle there own …”/

      You guess????

      You fucken guess

      Naw you dumbfuck, THE LOTT 13 did handle their own…. till this fuckan day

      Unlike High Times Stoners, Rascals 13, Gage Boys, Folsom St Locos, F.T.W. Stoners, Hole Stoners etc etc who were punked into becoming a MV.

      We kept it OG…

      its still THE LOTT STONERS Gang !!

      Plus we smashed all the original Maravilla varrios – El Hoyo MV, Lopez MV, Marianna MV, Juarez MV, Arionza MV, Ford MV, Lote MV

      And for the fuck of it we’ve also let Moeriya MV and Frazier MV have it too

      • True Gage Boy Mv

        This Lopster is a joke, you talk the talk, but i bet you never walk the walk. this lame is trying to make everybody believe that his Barrio is the biggest and baddest Barrio their was. And it wasn’t and never was. Im from Gage MV, and i remember kicking these lames ass in belvedere junior high, and on the street on their way home. these pussys didnt even look like stoners, more like rokers. In the streets they were never to be found. yeaa we got into chingasos on the street , thats because we caught you slipping and you lames had no choice but too use your faces as punching bags. and, then it turn into balasos, but still couldn’t get none. But i remember we gaaaaave you some……. In fact when they started recruiting these T.ik.s Tacs they where finally getting some exposour , infact after that you lames encourage all your homeboys to be undercover w/ your fade haicuts and tagging clothes.and armie fateeg, scared mothafuckers. We still smash and took your bikes , and took some of you out, broke and enter into your homes. (tic tacs). I am surprise you rankers need attention now. But i get it you lames rank it when we use too hit u up, and now that you lames aint around you need (A. Martines ) former gang affiliated member to put you on a the map that you never werent on. You lops were a bunch of party boys w/ ur mustangs.for the record you lames did try to get in MV, I was their, Lote Mv veteranos wanted to take you in under their flag. But alop of us said no, because we new you lamefucks couldnt hang. Ask your older homie Nino. Continue paying taxes, to a brocken organization that is already falling apart. Bunch of simpathysers, u lames werent a really a real gang until you lames started hanging around southsiders, when they ask you too be 13. either it was turn 13 or get the greenlight. Once you lames got rejected by us you lames turn sur. We have older homies in la Eme. And our respects for them before all the bullshit hit the fan. See the record, check your history, We were proud not paying taxes, thats one of the reasons we turn into MaraVilla, another one was, we had familia in them. I understand why you glorify your varrio, I do. Atleast stick with the facts, speek the truth you retired wanna be gangster. Check the gang files you Lop.

      • This Lopster is a joke, you talk the talk, but i bet you never walk the walk. this lame is trying to make everybody believe that his Barrio is the biggest and baddest Bario their was.And it wasn’t and never was. Im from Gage MV, and i remember kicking these lames ass in belvedere junior high, these guys didnt even look like stoners, more like rokers. In the streets they were never to be found.In fact when they started recuiting these T.ik.s they where finally getting some exposiour , infact after that you guys encourage all your homeboys to be undercover w/ your fade haicuts and tagging clothes.We still smash and took your bikes , and took some of you out, broke and enter into your homes. Im am surprise you rankers need attention now. For the record you lames did try to get in MV, I was their, Lote Mv veteranos wanted to take you in under their flag. But alop of us said no, because we new you lamefucks couldnt hang. Ask your older homie Nino. Continue paying taxes, to a brocken organization that is already falling apart. We have older homies in the Carnales. See the record, check your history, We were proud not paying taxes, thats one of the reasons we turn into MaraVilla, another one was, we had familia in them. I understand why you glorify your varrio, I do. Atleast stick with the facts, speek the truth you retired wanna be gangster. Check the gang files you Lop. Gagester por vida………..where you wanted at………

        • Chinga Tu Madre!

          stop with your lies you fucken Gay Mama Verga!
          In the 1980s THE LOTT STONERS would literally bitch slap the fuck outta the Gay Boys…I know i awas there….ask Jerry, he got the taste slapped outta his mouth many times…
          the proof is this…you faggots had to get into MV for survival.
          THE LOTT STONERS Ganga never bowed down …and rained balazos on all you faggots….to all you haters, eat a fat dick cause thats the defninition of Mama Vergas….it's still THE LOTT Gang on mines!

    • So what happened to El Hoyo, are they still around?
      Are their any Latino and Black gang’s that are cool with each other or is it all out war?

    • LOTTERO

      you dumb motherfucker do your research right so that next time you get the fucken story right! The LOTT was and is the most noctorious gang in the east side of Los, since day one , the Lott has put fear in the lifes of all.

      • veterano primera flats

        GET YOUR STORYS STRAIGHT YOUNGSTER, AM 50 YRS OLD AND MY JEFE WAS FROM EL HOYO, THEY BEEN AROUND SINCE 1930′ YOUR VARRIO IS FILLED WITH PECETAS, (PC’s) LOCKING IT UP IN LA PINTA. YOUR LITTLE HOMIE SORROW, CLEAN UP YOUR BACKYARD, BEFORE WE DO. THEN YOU COULD TALK BIG. INTIL THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP. TORO PF.

        • EAST LOS historian

          Toro
          Are you fucken serious?!
          you can't possibly be that stupid…but maybe you are. The history of THE LOTT 13 is relaying the Stoner generation in EAST LOS. I know that the original Mama Vergas came out in the 1940s and 50s…some came out in the 60s and some early 70s…thats not in dispute.
          but even your fat old ass has to recognize THE LOTT 13 is the true "Maravilla Killers" gang

      • looney lopero

        Fuck the lopps. Man cmon u vatos been hiding for years. U can even fuck wit us maravillains. East los is our MARVELOUS VARRIO! Oh yeah keep paying bitch.

  2. THE INSANE KRIMINALS IN THE 80’S WHERE RUNNING AND STILL RUNNING AND CALLING ALL THE SHOTS

    • LOTTERO

      the tik’s are just another click off the BIG LOTT. Much respect to the tik’s but the LOTT 13 is always primero

      • Clown KWS13

        Krazy Wicked Surenos 13, you vatos from the lott are a bunch of liars, I was cell mates with payaso from TLS13 in d
        Deleno State Pen, reseption, and he told me that the TIK’s were a lame tagging crew that were getting their ass kicked, by some mantekillas on
        Gage Mantekillas hood ,so they clicked up with the lott to have back up. I admit my hood was a tagging crew also but atleast i dont lie about the year it was establish or the reputation. He said they started in thelate 90’s.We came up around the same time.

        • KAE-DUB 13

          Chale, homes.. Big Bad Varrio South Side Krazy Wicked Sur 13 came out the gate in ’90/’91… it wasn’t the late 90’s, lil homey… The Klika started with the vatos that were still tagging at the time… KWS was the only tagging crew to go at it with the varrios out there in Mayomadera. The Maywood and Kansas boys wanted to klick up with the varrio really bad… they courted the hood to no avail… We had White Fence and Clanton wanted to klick up, too… but the Kaywood K-Dubs stood on their own and still do to this day. K’s up, ese! The OG’s know where this shit started and they know where it came from… Big ups to the homeys that started that K-DUB 13 GANG: Largo, Trigger, Moreno, Boxer, Triste, OG Payaso, Snuffy, Droopy, Grumpy, Sparky, Salty and Stranger… RIP: Sleepy (aka Serel), Raskal and Mr. Lucky.

        • Rock n Roll Gangster

          Are you fucken retarded ^^^
          first of all, Payaso from THE LOTT 13 Chicos has been in San Quitens Death Row for over 10 years so I know your full of shit.
          Yeah, the vato that said TIK’s is from the 1980s is from the West Side TIK’s but they did NOT come out in the 80s they came out in the 1990s, same for the east side T.I.K.’s … east side TIK’s are the ones the became a clika off THE LOTT 13 Gang!

  3. THE LOTT X3

    THE LOTT is the most downest gang fuck everyone else
    we aint scared of no gang fuck hmv

    • Gage MV

      Your the most dumest fuck around. And yea you guys are scared, because

      you guys dont even post up any more or gangbang anymore.

    • Christina

      No its not.

    • THE LOTT X3

      THE LOTT TRECE WILL FUCK UP ANYONE THAT FUCKS WITH US FUCK HMV

      • stephanie

        Are all you gang members all liars. I went to the library their on Hazard and Cesar Chavez and read a book on the history of east Los Angeles, and it said that Hoyo Maravilla was the first gang in east L.A and then it was White fence. i never heard of the lott, is that because you guys hang aroung in a parking lot. I cant imaging your gang having 60 gang members in a friday night. I use to live on Brannick and Blanchard and i never seen gangmebers walking around or making noise, it is a peaceful neighborhood i still live their with my mom. Why dont you go to community college, E.L.A.C you sound semi intelligent, except for the exauration parts in your glamor of negative imagination. peace out.

  4. Puppet Master

    Pues looks like this #2 pluma knows his history. Congrats on the knowledge ese.
    You know after all the years of seeing young knockleheads walking into the yArda
    underneath the pilars I still get angry & upset. We have lost generations lucked up
    educated in self-destruction. We have glorified ‘ Loco-ility ‘, ignored the fact that
    getting sent up isn’t a sign of ‘ getting your props ‘ but, of losing everything. If you’d take all that desire of learning ( history of yards of concert / barrio turf ) and put it to
    work in la escuela you’d learn that every life has much more to offer. I paid my bills
    off the pride of Latinos, Anglos. I have watched things which I would rather forget. I
    have walked in the steps of some body who’s locked up but, as a free man. Dated
    daughters, madres of ‘ down O. G.’s. One thing I can say they have in common is this, …. Somebody is getting over on them. Stop this madness. Mira here’s one thing I learned in my 40 anos of vida, there is only two types of people out here, the smart & the wise one’s. The smart learn from thier mistakes & the wise learn from other people’s mistake. I am no longer a C.O. I am now back in the private sector.
    I am a man who fears God, combat veterano ( former Marine ). You can reply back directly to me rejectionistimewellmanaged at gmail dot com. I am open for constructive conversations. Many of you reading this might feel disrespected or ashame. Just like I felt watching a youngen’ *walk into the walls of la pinta where I
    watched. * Walking is a control fall*… & yet we do it everyday ( think about it ).
    – Puppetmaster.

    • Moodster 1

      Aint that the truth, Puppet Master. I felt the same way. ANd I was true blue till the casket dropped. Still am, but I cant believe what the politics and money have caused. Now were warring with the negroes even though we have a common enemy?? Anyways, its nice to see other OG’s that think the same way. Im just pissed I wasted a decade believing in something that really wasnt there.

    • don 3ce

      ey puppet master are u a D.O.

  5. bossmackalini

    First of all i want to say thanks to puppetmaster for his wisdom, I dont live in this hood, and i never been there before, but i do have a friend from there, and to be honest there are gangs and gang violence everywhere, BUT whats happening in that area in East LA is a serious problem, its only creating genocide amongst Hispanics, and like Moodster said they are also beefin with the Negroes( these days we call them Black people) its not that we have a common enemy, but that we have a common struggle, there has to be a solution, I think the root of the problem has to do with Taxation, which is not right, nobody like being Taxed, look into history, ever since the Romans first tried the practice of Taxation, nobody has approved of taxation, I don’t like being taxed, you don’t like being taxed, and neither does the MOB!

    • MoRA Torium

      Good point BossM…Care to expand? That’s very general statement. Ur history is correct though about the Romans, but lets start teaching Bangers respect first, this shit starts at home, sure, if your home happens to be in a questionable neighborhood, the kid has to survive by becoming a part of it or stay inside the house most of his life. I don’t know many teenagers, especially boys, that can stay in the house all the time.

      The parents need to step up to the plate, and if they know they are moving into a questionable neighborhood, they gotta be prepared.

      Prepare them to mind their own business number one. That gets u out of most of the hot water. Also teach them to respect otherr people, especially their elders and respect human life, again, I am a white dude on this blog, but I aint the typical white dude coming from a mostly black neighborhood myself in the 70’s. Times have changed. Now black dudes look at ME like I am the enemy, so to an extent, you can’t teach your children that all white people are the enemy, they are not.

      Today, I walk through a mall, and what do I see? A shoe store with red caps and blue caps, side by side, red tennis shoes and blue tennis shoes side by side….walmart almost the same thing, and if the neighborhood is predominantly blood, then the red stuff is prominently dispayed.

      So corporate America really threw fuel on the flames. Gang rap music is difeferent, I see it as a freedom of expression, so I am not down on the lyrics of G Rap…But please teach these kids some fucking manners first, shape them right, and when someone aproaches him to get involved, he gonna politely say no and hopefully he can get away with it.

  6. question

    who do they call corn flakes?

  7. Geraghty Loma

    Geraghty Loma Es Rockwood St is a much bigger gang than the lott X3.Geraghty Loma has been around since the early 1930’s and is a pretty strong gang. Geraghty Loma was the original gang that did not get along with any of the mamavergas. Everyone needs to do a better research of the gangs of east los angeles .

    • Ok then you should know that Geraghty was a Maravilla clique back in the days..if you walk up on Buelah and other circles up in the hills…you can see old placasos that say GMV… It was just that living on top of the Hill seemed better to them and wanting to be different from MV they took that MV off.. ( I heard this story from a credible veterano back in the late 80’s….)

      • Geraghty Loma rockwood

        Yeaa thats right we use to be Maravilla, some of the veteranos were, but we broke off, they were too crasy, we even rolled with the Gage Boys 13, but they killed some our older heads. You lott stoners were with us too, but you guys couldnt share the park.

        • Back in the mid to late 80’s East Side Rockwood St had it going on when they had the Bonnnie Beach abandoned school..you guys were deep as heck! I knew Chato, Gizmo, Rascal, Chato and a few other locos…the gurls were nuts too Huera, Loca, Mona…

  8. NO NAME NEEDED

    WHAT’S IN THE HISTORY IS TRUE…TO ALL COMMENTERS,IT’S LIKE THIS THE LOTT IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A TREE OF IT’S OWN OUT OF GERAGHTY SOIL…OUR STILO FROM THE BEGINING WAS DIFFERENT, THERE FOR NEVER CLAIMING GERAGHTY, BUT ALWAYS, AT THE TIME IN ASSOCIATION…HENCE, “GERAGHTY LOMA LOTT FAMILY” WHEN THE SO CALLED “FUCK MARAVILLAS” CAUSE I DON’T BELIEVE IN DISRESPECTING A VARRIO BY CALLING THEM OUT OF NAME” JUST LIKE WHEN YOU SAY “FUCK LOPPS” I’M NOT FROM THE LOPPS, I’M FROM THE LOTT,SO WHEN YOU SAY IT, IT DOESNT BOTHER ME…IF I’M A LOPP, IT’S CAUSE I LOPP MOTHER FUCKERS HEADS OFF..IF I’M A LOLLY POP, IT’S CAUSE YOU LICK MY DICK…ANYWAYS, WHEN THIS SO CALLED MEETING WAS CALLED TO GET THE LOTT INTO THE (WHATEVER GANG) NO ONE KEPT US OUT…WE KEPT OURSELVES OUT…WE WERE AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE LOTT GANG…IF WE EVER HAD ANY INTENTION TO GET INTO OR BE A CLICK FROM ANY OTHER VARRIO, THAT VARRIO WOULD HAVE BEEN “GERAGHTY” BUT BEING TRUE TO OURSELVES AND HOLDING OUR OWN WE ARE THE LOTT , AND FEARED BY ALL “FUCK MARAVILLAS” IF WE WANTED TO ADD THE MV THE GL THE USA… WHATEVER!!! WE COULD HAVE DONE SO! WE DID AND STILL DO WHAT THE FUCK WE WANT… THAT’S WHY ALL YOU BITCHES WANTED US TO ADD THE MV… TO MAKE YOU FAMOUS…WAS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! MV’S CLAIM TO BE DOWN AND TAX FREE, AND MAYBE THEY ARE, BUT GO TO THE COUNTY AND DON’T BE SO QUICK TO CLAIM MV SO THEY COULD LOCK YOUR BITCH ASS UP…CLAIM NO AFFILIATE CROSS THE LINE, THEN TELL EVERY SURATA (NO DISRESPECT TO WHAT I STAND FOR) THAT YOU’RE A TAX FREE NOT GIVING A FUCK GREENLIGHTER, AND SEE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS!!! YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN…THAT’S WHY YOU WALK UP TO THE FIRST DEPUTY AND SAY, “SIR, BUT I’M FROM FUCK MARAVILLAS. I CAN’T GO IN THERE” YOU DOWN ASS PC BITCHES…NOT ONLY THAT…YOU LAMES ARE ALL DIFFERENT GANGS WITH THE SAME NAME (LIKE 17 STREET) YOU DON’T GET ALONG TILL YOU’RE LOCKED UP, CAUSE YOU’RE ALL SCARED…THE ONLY REAL VARRIO YOU GUYS HAVE THAT DOESN’T GIVE A FUCK IS MMV…THAT’S WHY YOU ALL HATE THEM…CAUSE THEY REPRESENT YOU AS TRUE GANGSTERS WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU’RE NOT!!! FUCK THEM TOO, BUT I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE… I’M NOT A HATER… I JUST DON’T LIKE MOTHER FUCKERS THAT DON’T CLAIM THE HARDEST VARRIO (THAT IS ONE VARRIO) IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD… THAT GANG IS THE LOTT STONERS… LONG HAIR, TIGHT PANTS…WHO THE FUCK WOULD HAVE THOUGHT… MY MESSAGE TO GERAGHTY: IF YOU KNOW YOUR HISTORY, YOU HAD THE MV INGRAVED BEFORE THE LOMA…SOMETHING YOUR ANCESTERS WERE ASHAMED OF…THEREFOR THE CHANGE…AND YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BIGGEST GANG IN EAST LOS HAD THE LOTT EVER BECAME A CLICK…PEOPLE HATE SHIT THEY CAN’T CONTROL…THE LOTT GANG HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN CONTROL AND OUTTA CONTROL, SO FUCK YOU BITCH ASS HO’S!!!

    • ELA 13

      I MET YOUR HOMEBOY FROM THE LOTT DANNY BOY, HE HAS TATOOS ON HIS EYEBROWS AND LOTT IN ENGLISH LETTERS ON HIS STOMACH, THAT GUY PC UP IN 1996 IN SUPER MAX. IF YOUR HOOD CONTROLS, WHY YOU GOT PC’S IN YOUR CLICK.

      • Mama Verga Killer

        you're just mad cause THE LOTT 13 took over your hood (ELA13) off Whittier Blvd ^^^ and now that's our 2nd hood for well over 15 years

        • ELA 13

          You vatos aint nothing on this side, we run up to you taggers undercover gangmembers and you rank it. Me llaman GOGO from ELA13, and you vatos aint shit on the streets or in the joint, fucken LOp.

        • ELA 13

          Identify your self you lop. I did. your whole varrio aint what you vatos claim to be, you lops have to have a web page to exist. please, true gangsters dont need to put them selves out their at risk, for police authoities to investigate. I guess you guys did died out in order to be putting yourself on blast. are you lops that desperate to get attetion. so others could know that you guys are 2 or 3 left that still havent got busted or died, that you need to become email net bangers.

        • Big Loco

          get theFuck outta cheester!

          THE LOTT 13 Diablos completely took over your Whittier Blvd hood with no problems! you bitches literally got taken over by only one clika from THE LOTT!
          everybody in EAST LOS knows that….

          at least the Mama Vergas will put up a fight, but not you busters!
          Once THE LOTT 13 dropped your main vatos (Flaco, etc) it was a wrap for you bitches

      • BABYGIRL CLPS13

        i was with a guy from the Lott13tik “Sorrow” he wrote to me from jail, and he use to say how the maravillas were deep in their, and he fear for his life. he said he was thinking of going into protection custody because of a guy name wolfie from maravilla that use to know him in the streets, and he told him his time was up. i never met a scary lott member. my homegirls party with them before, and they didnt look like they would pc up. but in the end he didnt pc up.

  9. eric

    white fence was the first gang in east los i think it was in the 20’s or 30’s

    • santos

      wf nor marivilla was the first east side gang it was 3rd st they were before both of those lame ass hoods…..VNE TLS PROJECT LIFE….

      • CITY TERRACE

        EVERY TREE HAS BAD FRUIT AND IF THE LOTT THINKS THEY DONT GOT BITCHES, WELL THEY DO. IN 3RD STREET STATION. A LOTT STONER GOT PUNK BY A GAGE MARAVILLA, A FOOL SPORTY PUNK HIM AND SLAPPED HIM, AND THAT FOOL FROM THE LOTT DIDNT WANT PEDO. I STOOD BACK AND FELT SORRY FOR THE HOMIE, IT WASNT MY PEDO. BUT A HOMIE FROM BREED JUMP UP, BUT THAT FOOL FROM GAGE FUCKE’D HIM UP TOO. THAT FOOL FROM LOTT HAS THE LOTT TATTO ON THE BACK OF HIS HEAD REAL BIG, YOU VATOS GOTTA DEAL WITH THAT TYPE OF SHIT.

        • Big Loco

          ….and then your mama woke your ass up”!

          the real deal is Mama Vergas are the # 1 PC’s on the planet. the Protective Custody gang

          we got papwer-work all the Mama Vergas for snitching on THE LOTT 13 once we let ’em have it….

          the only ones that never snitches was Marianna, other than that all other mv’s have go to court and got their snitch on!

  10. V.BPS13TMS GANG STR8 ENEMY KILLERS PHUK ALL U DEAD ASS HOODS BP UP SINCE THE 80 AND STILL GOING FRM SOUTH CENTRAL 2 THE VALLEY 2 PALMDALE 2 THE NORTH FAKETEEN KILLER CANOGA PARK KILLA FLOWER MURDER PHUK BLOODS BK FK MSK EBK ALL DAY NORTHRIDGE CITY BROWN PRIDE SURENOS 3CE GANG PHUK ENIMEGAS

  11. CLEVER

    THATS THE REASONS FOR ALL THE CLICKS, BUT THIS GENERATIONS CLICKS ARE FUCKIN UP WHAT THE VETERANOS HAVE WORKED FOR SOME DRESS UP LIKE MAYATES SOME TALK LIKE THEM SOME STILL RESPECT THE CHICANO WAY AND SOME ARE STRAIGHT RANKERS BUT EY UR RITE MAYBE WE SHOULDN BEEF AGAINST OUR OWN POOR PEOPLE FOR A PIECE OF BREAD WHEN THE SYSTEM HAS A LOAF OF BREAD TO OFFER.. BLACKS AND LATINOS HAVE BEEN GETTING DISCRIMINATED FOR MANY YEARS, WE HATE BECAUSE WE ALSO WANT TO BE WITH OUR KIND OUR STYLE OUR LANGUAGE AND OUR CULTURE GETS ROBBED TOO, LIKE THOSE FUCKEN CHINOS TRYIN TO CLAIM CHOLO AND TALKIN LIKE US DRESSING LIKE US AND WHATEVER I MEAN I KNOW CHINOS FROM MEXICO THAT LIKE OUR CULTURE WICH IS ALRIGHT NEGROS ARE PUBLICALLY OUT THERE LIKE THEY CAN TAKE OVER L.A(WICH THEY REALLY CANNOT) THEY STARTED COPPIN OUR STYLE BACK IN THE 70S WIT THE DICKIES AND WITE SHIRTS TOO BUT BACK TO THE WHOLE LOVE THING WERE NOT SO DIFFERENT I MEAN CHICANOS AND BLACKS CAN RAP SO FUCK THAT WE SHUD BEEF AGAINST GUEROS BUT THERES STILL THAT THINKING THAT OUR CULTURE WILL DISAPEAR ONCE THE NEXT GENERATIONS COME THROUGH

  12. all sureno nation throw it up sureno 13 rifa

  13. bossmackalini

    did you know Mexico’s first president was half Black, and half Native, Mexicans and Blacks gotta stop beefin, we all come from one common ground, if we united we could stand up and run this whole entire thang

  14. looney lopero

    All I got to say to this bitch ass vato about that pc in county shit. Every tree got bad apples cuz shit u vatos got str8 snitches in ur varrio and cmon homie I been on gang file since I was 12 I been reppin mv all day don’t speak on some shit when u vatos don’t even bang ask cheeze u vatos r slang bangers and don’t even live in east los cmon u vatos r old news and as for charity cmon now pls homey don’t make me laugh I don’t even know who is who they dress like levas. I been around juv camp yts county delano wasco 3 year shu calipat and centinela just paroled bitch get at me on whittirer blvd and take ur shirt off when u walk around

  15. ENDS ONE

    ENDS WAS HERE!.. HAHA.. CYBER GRAFF!.. STRAIGHT OUT OF EAST LOS ANGELES!!..

  16. MARAVILLA POR VIDA

    FUCK ALL SURRATS! THE FIRST HOOD IN EASTLOS WAS LOMITA MARAVILLA IN THE 1930 EVEN THE PUNK ASS MOVIE LA EME GAVED PROPS TO LA LOMITA MV BUT THIS FOOLS BECAME GAY LOVERS (GERALTHY LOMA) NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE MAD TO THE BIG EM-VE IS CAUSE THIS FAGGETS USED 2 KICK IT WITH THE LOPS AKA LOTTERY WHEN CHERATHY FIRST BEGAN THEY WERE ALLIED WITH THE LOPS N ALSO BITCHES COULD AINT HANDLE THE GREENLIGHT SO THEY RATHER PUT A PUNK ASS ONE THREE AT THE END OF THEIR HOOD N BOW DOWN LIKE A TRICK LIKE THOSE FAKE ASS LEVAS FROM THE I.E. PERRAS CLAIMIN MV AS A SORRY SIDE GANG CHALE NO TRUE MARAVILLA WILL NEVER CLAIM THE SORRY SIDE! I RATHER DIE ON MY FEET THAN LIVE ON MY KNEES N MARAVILLA WAS ONE OF THE MAIN GANGS WHO STARTED THE MICKEY MOUSE GANG (LA EME) LIKE THAT FOOL JOE PEG LEG SO FUCK ALL SURRATS ILL SAY IT ONCE N ALL SAY IT AGAIN SURRATS ARE AINT SHIT WITHOUT MARAVILLA!!FACE REALITY MOTHERFUCKAA SUCK ON THIS BIATCH

    • fuck this manteilla u like to run ur mouth on the net… but are a bitch in the pen… cuz all u mantekillas pay taxes so shut the fuck up u stupid peseta. i personally saw u butters paying taxed in delano u stupid butter… it was a gay mamaverga they call cisco… so ask around before u claim to be tax free u stupid peseta… VLOTT 13 MALDITOS CLICK BITCH…

      • Gagester

        Fuck you smokey, and stop hating on a Gagester like Cisco. You pussies will say anything to smut a good homies name. He probably put tips on you , hugh. throughout the years we touch you lames, but you cant never touch us. VARRIO GAGE MATAVILLA RIFA.

      • Gagester

        Fuck you smokey and stop hating on a Gagester like Cisco. You pussies will say anything to try making a good homie look bad. no one from us will pay renta to none of you. You say what you say, because we are your worst enemy, and through out the years we touch you lames but cant ever touch us. VARRIO GAGE MATAVILLA RIFA.

  17. Oso

    Who really cares of who has been around since back in the day. What did you get for being around the longest?? The homeboys that started the shit are either dead, locked up or if they are really lucky, veteranos. You know who are the real G’s and are still around?? The damm homeowners, they got papers to show that they own their shit. They got money coming in from those who rent those houses or are saving money from what they don’t they pay in rent. And if you aren’t smoked up yet from all the shit you put in your body, take time and learn from what the veteranos are saying. The veteranos have been there and done that. The only fucked up part is that some of you knuckle heads are so damm stubborn that you got to go though some crazy shit only to realize that the veteranos where right all along.

  18. V THE LOTT STONERS X3

    FUCK ALL MANTECOSAS AND ALL MY HATTERS THE BIG BAD LOTT GANG PATROLING AND CONTROLING MAKING ENEMIGAS DROP. A BIG ELE TO ALL MY LOTTEROS PUTTING IN WORK IN THE PINTA N THE CALLES
    SS.V.THE LOTT STONERS X3 TIK’s 61 STREET ESE GRIFO

  19. LIL DREAMER LOPEZxMV GANG

    FUCK ALL YOU SURRATAS YOU BITCHES AINT ABOUT NADA! PURO MARAVILLA RIGHT HERE, WEVE BEEN GRRENLIGHTED FOR SO LONG AND U SCRAPAS STILL CANT TAKE US DOWN, BITCH ASS LEVAS!…PURO TAX FREE GREENLIGHT LIFE LOPEZ MARAVILLA, HOYO MARAVILLA, HIGH TIMES MARAVILLA,GAGE MARAVILLA, FRASIER MARAVILLA, FORD MARAVILLA

  20. the wonderer

    Just curious, why does one maravilla gang cross out another maravilla gang?? i would think you guys would just make a power house gang and take over.. The only thing i can think of is politics..

  21. the wonderer

    why does one MV gang cross out another MV?? I would think you guys would have each others back.

    • Breed st

      SOME MV DONT GET A LONG BECAUSE THERE TRUE GANGSTERS. MY OLDER BROTHER IS FROM EL HOYO. THEY EVENTUALLY GOING TO FIGHT OVER TURF LIKE ANY OTHER GANGS, AFTER THEY TOOK OUT THE LOTT , THEY DIDNT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE TO FIGHT WITH. ALL THE HOMIES FROM GERAGHTY , LIL EASTSIDE AND HICKS GOT LOCKED UP OR TAKEN OUT BY THOSE GAGE BOYS MARAVILLA AND EL HOYO. SO THEY HAVE TO FIGHT SOMEBODY. EVEN MY GANG WAS GOING TO BE A MARAVILLA , BUT WE DECIDED, JUST NOT TO PAY TAXES, AND GET GREENLIGHTED. AND BECOME SOLOS.

    • At one time in the early 90’s there was a peace treaty but like many..they get broken and thus you have an endless war with countless victims and losses..the only one making money is the guy at the morgue.

  22. MAMAN VERGA KILLERs (LOTT)

    FUCK ALL YOU MV’s TRYING TO BANG ON THE NET.THINK YOU SOUND FIRME TALKING SHIT ON LINE PUTOS PLEASE.WE BEEN HERE SINCE 1970 POCOS PERRO LOCOS YOU VATOS SO DEEP AND STILL HAVENT TAKEN US OUT YOU VATOS DONT GO TO GL,CT,YOU VATOS CUM TO THE LOTT FIRST AND DNT DO NO DAMAGE.PLUS YOU FOOS BE RANKING IT STRAIT UP GETTING PC UP SCARED TO REP YOUR SHIT.YOU FUCKIN UNDENIAL LEVAS.CANT HANG WITH URE BEEF.VATOS STILL BUSTING DRY BYS WAT THE FUCK IS DAT.FUCKIN GORDOS MANTECOSOS.YOU FOOS ARE STUPID LIL KIDS BEEFING WITH EACH OTHER N SHIT.CANT ACCEPT THAT WE SMALLER BUT DROPPED MORE OF YOU VATOS THAN YOU HAVE.ALWAYS HIDING IT EVEN GETS BORING BANGING ON YOU FOOS.AND WEN WE RUN UP ON YOU YOU START CRYING AND DENYING YOUR SHIT.ESPECIALLY GAGE.LAMES.FUCK ALL MAMA VERGAS.PURO LOTT 13.AQUI PARA FUCK MARAS.AND ALL HATERS.

    • Laguna Park

      What are you doing, also ? banging on the net. I remember the lott, your homies came to party near our varrio , and we hit them up, and they crapped on them selves, it was not until we picked up their shirts on one of them , and he had the lott on his stomach, we asked them why they ranked it. and they had said that they tought we were an enemiga from Gage. atleast. We hit up those mamavergas from Gage in their hood, and atleast they dont rank it. they even shoot back.

      • Big Loco

        ….And then you fell off the bed !!

        Shut your ass up under-cover Mama Verga

        Claim your Protective Custody (peseta) MV gang and stop pretending to be from other varrios just to hate on THE LOTT !!

        This shit is getting old….

  23. LIL KASPER

    FUCK MAMA VERGAS PURO 18ST GANG FROM CANADA TORONTO ~416~ BK CK LKK MS13K EW13K BK DBK NK TBK ES13K VARRIO B-TOWN LOCOS WEST SIDE XV3ST GANG!!! MIERDA KILLA ALL DAY ….SUR 13 UP

  24. fu c k tacos

    fuc k all these so called gangs. let the police have marshall law and they would all go away. go back to mexico and eat ur burritos and tacos.

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