Jimel Barnes, the self proclaimed Godfather of the Crips Misspeaks

By Alex Alonso (Streetgangs.Com)
July 8, 2006

Jimel Barnes, one of the Original Crips from Avalon Gardens in Los Angeles is interviewed by John & Ken from 640 KFI in Los Angeles about Tookie. This is a “must listen” interview, because Jimel makes some comical claims, false statements, and calls for the execution of Tookie.

listen to interview

(10 minutes 30 secs)

tookieLOS ANGELES – Jimel Barnes was a very vocal opponent advocating for the execution of Stanley Tookie Williams last December. He was quoted, last year saying, “Tookie really murdered those people, and he went around bragging about it.” What was so unusual about his call for Tookie’s execution was that he was actually a teenage friend of Tookie going back to the early 1970s and because of his position against Tookie, he was able to get some air time on several radio and TV news spots including the John & Ken show on 640 KFI in Los Angeles. It is clear that the radio hosts did not know Jimel Barnes’ background well, but they interviewed him as if he carried a level of credibility on the topic. The radio interview was full of inconsistent statements and contradictions made by Barnes and at times very comical.

The first false statement Barnes made to John & Ken was that Tookie had never known Raymond Washington, the actual founder of the Crips. That’s completely untrue, because Washington met Tookie around 1970 or 1971 and they became good friends. Their relationship is well-documented and common knowledge by those that knew both Tookie and Washinton. The fact that Tookie and Washington knew each other and were friends is absolutely irrefutable.

Barnes claims that he recruited Tookie in Compton in 1979/1980 and within 3-years he buffed him up with weights. Barnes makes this same claim in the 1995 book, Uprising in more detail where he states, “Later on after Raymond passed away, I wanted a twin brother, I wanted somebody to replace Raymond, so I went out and found this guy named Tookie and built him up from a little small guy to be a gladiator like me” (p.152-153). Both the statements Tookie made on the John & Ken show and in the book are false because Tookie was arrested on March 15, 1979 for quadruple homicide, and at the time of his arrest he had already developed a reputation that was several years old of being a Crip on the streets of Los Angeles. Additionally, Raymond Washington was murdered on August 9, 1979, so it would have been impossible for Jimel Barnes to recruit Tookie to be a Crip after Raymond Washington had died, because Tookie had been incarcerated already for five months by this time, and the editors of that 1995 book should have caught that obvious discrepancy. Additionally, John & Ken should not have been so naive to give Barnes so much radio time to spread misinformation.

Barnes claimed that he took Tookie from 14-inch arms to 25-inch arms on his bodybuilding program and he further states that he introduced Tookie to Arnold Schwartzenegger 25 years ago (1980) at Gold’s gym in Venice. Very few men have ever had 25-inch arms and using steroids Gregg Valentino holds the record for the largest arms (biceps) that measured from 25 – 27 inches. Professional body builders rarely get their biceps over 22 inches, and by looking at all of Tookie’s photos, his arms at best were 20 inches, certainly not the 25 inches that Barnes claims. Additionally, in 1980 when Jimel Barnes claims to have introduced Tookie to Arnold, Tookie was already in jail awaiting trial. John & Ken respond naively, “that’s really fascinating,” after Barnes makes the ridiculous statements that he introduced Tookie to Arnold Schwartzenegger around 1979/80. Barnes later states that at the time he introduced Tookie to Arnold, he was a 2-time Mr. Olympia which would take Barnes story back to 1971. But Barnes must have forgot that he earlier stated that he met Tookie in 1979/1980, by that time Arnold was a 6-time Mr. Olympia.

Barnes also told John & Ken of 640 KFI radio that Arnold Schwartzenegger wanted to make Tookie Mr. Olympia, but from 1970 – 1980, Arnold was busy making himself Mr. Olympia, so why would Arnold want to help someone else take the titles that he worked so to hard to retain. That’s like Floyd Mayweather Jr wanting to teach someone to become a world-class boxer to take his titles away.

Barnes claims that he spent 30 years working out in Gold’s Gym and that he was bench pressing 900 pounds during that time. If that were true, Barnes would have been a world record holder of the bench press which is currently held by Scot Mendelson who benched 1,008 lbs in 2006. The heaviest raw bench press was also performed by Mendelson at 715 lbs which I am certain Barnes was never able to bench. At best, Barnes had been able to bench 500 – 550 lbs during his prime years during the late 1970s and 1980s.

Barnes also told John & Ken of KFI radio that Tookie was still a Crip while on death row. That was a story that San Quentin Warden Vernell Crittenden started last November 2005, then later retracted. Tookie had not been involved in any criminal activity in prison since 1993, and during the last 12 years of his life on death row, he had not been disciplined while in San Quentin Prison. All his telephone calls had been monitored as all death row inmates are, so not only is it impossible to “call shots” from death row, without prison officials eves dropping on the conversations, it was untrue to label Tookie an active Crip gang member from his death row cell. Barnes knows this is not true, but his dislike for Tookie was so intense he was willing to make false statements that would further malign Tookie’s persona.

Barnes claimed that he and Washington started the Crips, but it was Washington who was the founder of the Crips while calling on a circle of his friends to join into his new movement. Tookie founded the West Side Crips, and Barnes formed the Avalon Garden Crips well after Washington started the original East Side Crips, but they all want to take the credit for one of the most popular street gangs ever formed.

Barnes has lost all credibility on the topic and should not be taken seriously and he is not welcomed by his own peers. He misspoke in the 1995 book, Uprising, and 10 years later he was still spreading the same fictitious stories. What is true, is that Barnes has harbored a jealous envy of Tookie for several years but now that Tookie is dead, I wonder if Jimel Barnes has found peace with himself and enjoying the satisfaction that one of his boyhood friends has been executed.

alexalonso Posted by on Jul 8 2006. Filed under Features. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently not allowed.

36 comments on “Jimel Barnes, the self proclaimed Godfather of the Crips Misspeaks

  1. StreetGangs.Com StaffStreetGangs.Com Staff on said:

    Jamel is the most ridiculous Crip that there ever was. Amazing, sounds like a hater.

  2. clay w on said:

    That is fucked up that Jamel Barnes wanted Tookie executed. I bet he probably did the same shit back in the day!!!! I would truly understand if people didn’t respect him after his comments! I even heard that he got knocked out back in the day by one of the founders of the Bloods, and they said that the dude wasn’t even half the size of J.Barnes.

  3. clay w on said:

    I read that Mike Concepcion initiated Tookie Williams into the Crips?

  4. M.E.S on said:

    all jamel is doing is letting everyone know that the story behind the crips is some bullshit. all of them are lying. if you research the crips, 1969, and the FBI’s war against the southern california black panther party, you will see that shit aint adding. i agree with jamel the Tookie should have been exacuted. he forgot to mention that he (jamel) should be exacuted too.

  5. ya'll betta do somethin on said:

    punk nigga is a snitch fuck that faggot

  6. Levi on said:

    He talks a lot of shit, but the interview is heavily edited by someone with alterior motives to maximise sensationalism

  7. unknown on said:

    man shut up

  8. Paloma Blanca on said:

    Isn’t he also the real Santa Claus and Jesus Christ???

  9. da lokc on said:

    A THAT NIKCA JIMEL FULL OF SHIT HE CONTRADICTED HIZSELF TO MANY TIMEZ BOUT TOOKIE AND RAYMOND,HE IS DA FOUNDER OF DA AVALON GARDEN CRIPS 888ST (1971) BUT HE FOUL FOR LYIN ON BIG TOOKIE LIKE THAT AND HE WAS HANGIN BANGIN WIT TOOKIE IN DA EARLY 70′Z GOIN TO THA WATTS FESTIVAL LETTIN PEOPLE KNOW DA CRIPS R KCOMIN HE A REAL BITCH ASS NIKCA FOR THAT THO…..IM FROM EAST SIDE KITCHEN CRIP GANG DA FIRST CRIP GANG FORMED ON CENTRAL AVENUE AND 87TH STREET THA FOUNDER IS BIG SKCULL DA 7 STAR GENERAL WE DA FIRST CRIPS ON DA EAST SIDE OF SC LA TO BRANCH OFF OF DA EAST SIDE CRIPS (1969) ORIGINALLY BABY AVENUES FOUNDER RAYMOND WASHINTON A.K.A RAY RAY….BUT DA ORIGINAL AVENUES WAS DA MUNSON FAMILY ROBERT AND CRAIQ ORIGINAL KITCHEN CRIPS DA MUNSONS IS A KNOWN KITCHEN CRIP FAMILY LIKE DA LEE’S THA FOUNDERS OF MY SET KITCHEN CRIPS,NIKCAS NEED TO LEARN THEY HISTORY I GOT MY HISTORY FROM MY TRIPPLE OG’Z NIKCAS BANGIN AND DONT KNOW DA HISTORY BEHIND IT……. 12116st KITCH87 CRIP GANG S LOKCSTA SWAYK,TOASTK,THRILLAK,APPLEPIEK,PUSHUPSK,FLOPPZK,BOOTYHOESK,WSPK,VTPK,DLBK,135PK,NHCCK,115BUSTAZK,

  10. da lokc on said:

    KITCH87 CRIP GANG 12116st~87st~95st NHECK,FSBJ,MSBK,MGBK,APBK,AMGBK,DLBK,BHWBK,BWBK,92BBK,52PBK,WSPK,VTPK,135PK,115HCK,NHCCK,BK,PK,CK,OK,ABK, S LOKCSTA 12116st “K~I~P” SKCOODER 1,KENDOGG 1,K~NUTSO,HIMEY,KCARTOON 1~3,LONZO,CHOPP 2,DROOPY1,116IXERS

  11. Big daddy Pimpin on said:

    welll first here’s my obvious reason why the fuck you even going to join some shit like that?

    and second that fucker is wrong cause I have a 35inch bicep no wait that’s my dick haha….

  12. gcapone1 on said:

    crips started in 68 and in the memory of RAYMOND WASHINGTON east side crips was supposed to unite.some crips said no so they cecame enemies and the rest cecame EAST COAST CRIPS.1st59st62nd66st68st69stj.bone89ip89st97stQ102st118st190st.True legends of the east side of los angeles.

  13. big long beach on said:

    phuk jimel barnes cuhh…tookie RIP…crippin started on da eastside of long beach..phuk smell a,twats an compton 187..phuk all wetbacks an samoans

  14. DuLeezy XL on said:

    man i know “gangbangin” is over now 4 a fact when u got clowns like this disrespecting another C.R.I.P. jus because he didnt get his title an reconition as tha crip founder “CUZZ” u on some shit that happened over 20 years ago man lets talk bout the future and the present day in time and if “TOOKIE”could trade places with yo bitter azz he probaly would but i tell u this homeboy i dought it if “TOOKIE” would be doing this hoe shit you exploiting all over the radio and dont get me wrong i have heard of jamel but this dont sound like the one i heard of so im gonna give the benefit of the dought and say this is jus a “smoker” on the radio that got paid a 10 dolla hit to say he is jamel jus cuz he was one of those busta ass niggaz that got kicked off they set or probaly slaped or raped by tookie way bac in the 70′s and now its his time to shine….but if that really was jamel:always remember this no matter how much u try to exploit another nigga GUESS WHAT AFTER YO 15 MINUTES OF FAME IZ UP AT THE END OF THE DAY U STILL GONNA BE A NIGGA TO THOSE WHITE FOLKS U TRYING TO IMPRESS BY PUTTING DOWN ANOTHER NIGGA……ohh AN by tha WAY keep C.R.I.P. out yo bitter ass mouth

  15. bighomie on said:

    crips dont die we multiply fuck jamel

  16. how u know Jimel is lying? his freakin lips r movin

  17. Big Rob on said:

    Hey everyone I attended Fremont High School in 1972 and Edison Jr. High in 1968 and remember Raymond Lee Washington from first hand knowledge and I can tell you that Tookie was not an aquaintance of Raymond this was a story invented by the african americans who lived on the west side and were not affliated with the origins of the gang. while I myself was an athlete and show no bias I can tell you any member of the 69, 68, and affliated east coast sets can verify this information as these guys descend from Raymonds original set (ask any (2+g’s) Additionally most o the information out there is any where from 40% to 99% accurate with some notable acceptions: (case in point ) while I did not belong to any gang I begrugdingly admired Raymonds fighting prowess as I observed Raymond travel to the area of the Pueblo del Pio Housing Projects in an attempt to fight one on one with “Snake” of the Pueblo’s gang (1969) In conclusion I only recount these observations to shed light on these folks out there who attempted to sidetrack the beginnings of the gang by superimposing the memrory of Tookie (notorious non fighter) with that of Raymond Washington a panther inspired warrior who sought out fights in a Kimbo Slice manner………Rob!

    • so are you saying tookie never use to fight and he was not a member of the drips they all have picture’s with raymond in 71

    • REAL TALK “Rob” all I’m gone say is this,

      I’m 46 years old, haven’t been back in my set since I was 17, 1982 when my mom’s was murdered, now I can’t never go home, washington, gave me the nickname “K9″ when I was 8 years old in 1973 cuz I was always fighting, and he watched over me an my lil sis, everyone loved my mom and my pops was one of the panthers in the hood. this went on until that day they took him from us, and the reason I can ever go home again…

      I never met tookie during all this time, and he kept my little ass around all the time…

  18. BLUESHOEZ on said:

    FUC THAT HATE’N ASS NIGGA………

  19. wettyloc on said:

    CUZ A SHERMHEAD

  20. Madd Ronald on said:

    I am a 3rd generation member of the Rollin’ 20′s Bloods.
    I was a youngster but I do remember Tookie and Jimel from back in the 1970′s.
    I have seen them in Los Angeles back in those days (considering as big as they were they were hard to miss.
    I go back to the 70′s when they use to be at the movies downtown on Broadway every saturday.
    A lot of what he is saying is questionable, but I do know Tookie along with members of R/A/C founded the BNCO from death row and although he may have grown to be outside of the immature senseless activity of the gang banger, he was still active in prison Crip politics through the Blue Notes.

  21. yg keekee on said:

    Fucc jamel barnes is 103rd grapestreet eastside watts varrio cuz we dnt do dat shyt wat he on n memphis cuz tony grey frm cali my ooog cuz

  22. CKBKNK on said:

    187 on all NIGGER SLOBS,CRABS AND CHINKS.

  23. Patricia Chumbley on said:

    Hi could you please come to my home and shoot me, not kill me and my dog. I just want my brother to appreciate me more. My address is 69877 Pomegranate Lane. Cathedral City, CA 92234. Thank you and God Bless you. Patricia

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

*

*


HTML tags are not allowed.

Search Archive

Search by Date
Search by Category
Search with Google

Photo Gallery

Log in |
  • Hispanic Gangs
  • Prison Gangs
  • Email
  • Other Cities
  • Crip Gangs
  • Bloods Gangs
  • Asian Gangs
  • Forums
  • Store
  • Injunctions
  • Contact
  • Resources